My Current Guess At The Ravens 53-Man Roster (Merged)

[Maryland]

23 hours ago, RayRocks said:

On that note, I think they'll try hard to keep Aiken.  SSS will be gone, and Wallace is really only likely to play for 2 more seasons.  Unless Perriman shows this year that he's definitely going to be a #1 (or #2) player, I think Aiken will stay on a relatively team friendly contract.  He's probably not the type of player who could get Torrey Smith type money on the market, and I think he's worth more to this team than he would be almost anywhere else.

Like @trevorsteadman said, I look at Sanu getting a surprisingly large deal (6.5 mil per year over 5 yrs) despite being an underwhelming #3 receiver for the Bengals and believe that Aiken can get a pretty good contract, which would mean we can't afford him. Couple that with the fact Ozzie values compensatory picks and I think Aiken is more likely to leave than stay

[rossihunter2]

with the injuries to watson and elam i now see canady and sheldon price fighting over the 53rd roster spot

[Mad Puppy]

It's my opinion, Butler and Moore have outplayed Campanaro all preseason.
Campano just lost a roster spot with the Lions game.

A trade for a CB/PR is likely to happen thus removing the need for Campy on the roster.

[rossihunter2]

10 minutes ago, Mad Puppy said:

It's my opinion, Butler and Moore have outplayed Campanaro all preseason.
Campano just lost a roster spot with the Lions game.

A trade for a CB/PR is likely to happen thus removing the need for Campy on the roster.

dont think so - he was put out for every punt and was playing consistently in the slot when mallett was throwing to butler and moore (he just didnt happen to be the first read)

[Sami84]

QB 2

 

J.Flacco

R.Mallet

 

RB 4

T.West

K.Dixon (please oh please don't be injured for long)

J.Allen

J.Forsett

 

 

FB 1

 

Juice

 

O-Line 7

 

M.Yanda

R.Jensen

J.Urschel

R.Stanley

R.Wagner

J.Zuttah

A.Lewis

 

 

WR 7

 

K.Aiken

M.Wallace

M.Campanaro

SSR

J.Butler

C.Moore

Perriman

 

TE 3

 

Pitta

Williams

Gillmore

 

 

 

Defense

 

D-line 7

 

B.Williams

T.Jernigan

B.Urban

L.Guy

C.Davis

Pierce

W.Henry 

 

OLB 4

 

T.Suggs

E.Dumervil

Z.Smith

Judon

 

ILB 4

 

K.Correa

C.J Mosley

A.McLellen

Z.Orr

 

CB 6

 

T.Young

J.Powers

J.Smith

S.Price

S.Wright

W.Davis

 

S 4

 

E.Weddle 

L.Webb

A.Levine

Brooks

 

KU 3

 

J.Tucker

M.Cox

S.Koch

Edited August 28, 2016 by Sami84

[balfan23]

@Sami84 - You stated 8 O linemen, but listed only 7. You listed Judon as both D line and OLB. 

My list is identical - I also have 8 o linemen and include Wesley and also list 7 D linemen, including KLM.

[Sami84]

oops..will correct it

[balfan23]

36 minutes ago, Mad Puppy said:

It's my opinion, Butler and Moore have outplayed Campanaro all preseason.
Campano just lost a roster spot with the Lions game.

A trade for a CB/PR is likely to happen thus removing the need for Campy on the roster.

Any thoughts on who this CB/PR would be? I feel like Butler certainly has made it hard, if not impossible to cut him, but I'm just not completely sure that it is at the expense of Campanaro ... especially not now, since Watson is gone. I think we now have the luxury of carrying 7 WRs and won't need to make that decision until Waller is available. If the trade you state is to happen, Camp will keep his roster spot until that time. I don't see us cutting him and then hoping we can find this someone, who many not actually exist. 

[Sami84]

Ive been impressed with pierce and have him over KLM

[Sami84]

8 minutes ago, balfan23 said:

@Sami84 - You stated 8 O linemen, but listed only 7. You listed Judon as both D line and OLB. 

My list is identical - I also have 8 o linemen and include Wesley and also list 7 D linemen, including KLM.

 

i don't think we need wesley so i've taken it down to 7 O-linesman.

[balfan23]

1 minute ago, Sami84 said:

i don't think we need wesley so i've taken it down to 7 O-linesman.

Wesley and KLM were my final 2 adds and therefore have the highest likelihood of being incorrect. I felt like I had to force the 8th o lineman (Wesley or Ducasse), because neither one is inspiring ... but I just feel like carrying only 7 o linemen is too low a number. 

[Sami84]

personally, from what i've seen this last year..i'd actually cut carl davis..3rd round pick or not.

Edited August 28, 2016 by Sami84

[rossihunter2]

2 QB: Flacco, Mallett

5 RB: Juice, Forsett, West, Dixon, Allen

3 TE: Crockett, Maxx, Pitta

7 WR: SSS, Wallace, Aiken, Perriman, Moore, Camp, Butler

8 OL: Stanley, Lewis, Urschel, Jensen, Zuttah, Yanda, Wagner, Ducasse

3 ST: Tucker, Kock, Cox

6 DL: Urban, Williams, Jernigan, Guy, Henry, Davis

5 OLB: Sizzle, Doom, Judon, Smith, Mclellan

4 ILB: Mosley, Orr, Levine, Correa

4 S: Weddle, Webb, Lewis, Brooks

6  CB: Smith, Wright, Davis, Young, Powers, Price

 

the potential changes i see are whether we carry one less o lineman, 1 more d lineman, and then i only have space for 2 of price, brooks and canady

[rossihunter2]

10 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

i don't think we need wesley so i've taken it down to 7 O-linesman.

who did you bring in as the 53rd guy in stead then?

[Sami84]

4 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

who did you bring in as the 53rd guy in stead then?

i added pierce to the D line

[Boddiebroadus]

Matt Elam will be waived will be placed on IR if no one claims. 

[BmoreBird22]

7 minutes ago, Boddiebroadus said:

Matt Elam will be waived will be placed on IR if no one claims. 

I saw that they were expected to injury waive him, meaning they'd settle, he'd be a FA, and likely be brought back once he's healed so they don't have to IR him and use the IR-DTR on him. 

[BmoreBird22]

I believe this is what I put in for my Pick the 53 Contest (after adjusting it several times to update with injury)...

QB (2): Flacco, Mallett

RB (5): Juice, Forsett, Allen, Dixon, West

WR (7): Butler, Aiken, SSS, Wallace, Camp, Moore, Perriman

OL (8): Stanley, Lewis, Wagner, Jensen, Zuttah, Urschel, Ducasse, Yanda

TE (3): Pitta, Williams, Gillmore

DL (6): Williams, Jernigan, Davis, Urban, Guy, Henry

LB (9): Suggs, Smith, Doom, McClellan, Correa, Judon, Mosley, Orr, Levine

CB (6): Canady, Jimmy, Wright, Powers, Young, Davis 

S (4): Webb, Weddle, Brooks, Lewis

ST (3): Cox, Tucker, Koch

Just some things on why I went the direction I did...

I know a lot of people are really high on Pierce, but he's a backup playing against third stringers. I think it was Jernigan filling in at NT when Williams wasn't in (third game), so I think it speaks that the coaching staff views Pierce as needing development, which is okay, considering he is an UDFA. I think he gets onto the PS.

I think the injury to Watson opened up the door for Jeremy Butler to make it as the seventh receiver. Harbaugh said he wanted play makers and that's all Butler has done this preseason. If they decided to go with only six to get an extra DL, I'd see camp as the odd man out. Returns seem, more often than not, to be few and far between and someone like Webb or SSS could return and probably do it at an equally high level.

I think Ducasse is a sneaky veteran to make the roster. It's very likely that Lewis starts at LG and it'd be nice to have veteran insurance there. Ducasse has been working with the second team all training camp, is familiar with Trestman, and has been pretty solid in run blocking, IIRC, so I think he's safe.

I'm gonna group Levine in there with the LB's because I expect him to play the dime LB role, but he's pretty much a jack of all trades and there are no surprises there for who makes it.

At CB, I think the top five are pretty set with Wright, Jimmy, Powers, Young, and Davis. After that, it's gonna be Powers vs Price for the last spot. The only way I see Price making it over a draft pick is if Canady gets the phantom IR (he wasn't out there on Saturday, so maybe he will), but I'm not a fan of this route at all. I think that the Ravens can afford to be a little patient with him with the ability of Webb, Brooks, and Levine to play CB in a pinch if needed.

[Boddiebroadus]

2 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I saw that they were expected to injury waive him, meaning they'd settle, he'd be a FA, and likely be brought back once he's healed so they don't have to IR him and use the IR-DTR on him. 

If they did this we can sign him and put him on active roster right? Like a 54 man roster?

[BmoreBird22]

2 minutes ago, Boddiebroadus said:

If they did this we can sign him and put him on active roster right? Like a 54 man roster?

Correct, if they release someone else. Or, in the event of an injury, he'd take a players place 

[Kid87]

After 3 games 

QB: Flacco, Mallett 

RB: Forsett, Dixon, West

FB: Juice 

WR: Wallace, Kamar, Steve, moore, Butler, Perriman 

TE: Gilmore, Max, pitta

T: Stanley, Wagner, Hurst  

G: YANDA, URSHEL, LEWIS, Duccase 

C: ZUTTAH, JENSEN 

DL: JERNIGAN, WILLIAMS, Urban, Guy, Davis, Henry , pierce

OLB Suggs, Doom, McCellan, Smith, Judon, Carter

ILb: CJ, orr, Correa

CB: Jimmy, Davis, Wright, Young, Powers

SS Weddle, Elam, Brooks

FS WEBB, Levine 

Special teams: tucker, cox, Koch

SUSPENSION( BOYLE) 

IR  ( Watson, Bronson ) 

P squad (Canady, Beyer, Ochi, Reynolds)

[allblackraven]

1 minute ago, Kid87 said:

After 3 games 

QB: Flacco, Mallett 

RB: Forsett, Dixon, West

FB: Juice 

WR: Wallace, Kamar, Steve, moore, Butler, Perriman 

TE: Gilmore, Max, pitta

T: Stanley, Wagner, Hurst  

G: YANDA, URSHEL, LEWIS, Duccase 

C: ZUTTAH, JENSEN 

DL: JERNIGAN, WILLIAMS, Urban, Guy, Davis, Henry , pierce

OLB Suggs, Doom, McCellan, Smith, Judon, Carter

ILb: CJ, orr, Correa

CB: Jimmy, Davis, Wright, Young, Powers

SS Weddle, Elam, Brooks

FS WEBB, Levine 

Special teams: tucker, cox, Koch

SUSPENSION( BOYLE) 

IR  ( Watson, Bronson ) 

P squad (Canady, Beyer, Ochi, Reynolds)

I don't see us carrying Hurst and dropping Campanaro. Alex Lewis will be first up OT cover, regardless of whether he'll start at LG.

[JoeyFlex5]

16 hours ago, Mad Puppy said:

It's my opinion, Butler and Moore have outplayed Campanaro all preseason.
Campano just lost a roster spot with the Lions game.

A trade for a CB/PR is likely to happen thus removing the need for Campy on the roster.

Talent wise Campanaro is better than both of them and its not really close(although Moore has potential to surpass him)

The question isn't about the performance on the field, it's about health. If you're cutting Campanaro because you think butler and Moore are better talents based on this preseason, then you are cutting him for the wrong reasons. 

 

[allblackraven]

25 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Talent wise Campanaro is better than both of them and its not really close(although Moore has potential to surpass him)

I wouldn't go that far (not really close). It's arguable. Different kind of receiver, particularly compared to Moore and Butler needed more time to figure it out but I don't see significant gap talent wise between them.

[JoeyFlex5]

4 hours ago, allblackraven said:

I wouldn't go that far (not really close). It's arguable. Different kind of receiver, particularly compared to Moore and Butler needed more time to figure it out but I don't see significant gap talent wise between them.

I see a talent gap for butler, Chris Moore not so much but he still has a lot to prove

 

[rmw10]

Let's do one final prediction before the "final" roster on Saturday.

Quarterback:
In (2): Joe Flacco, Ryan Mallett
Out (2): Josh Johnson, Jerrod Johnson

Again, I don't think there's much question.  Mallett's performance on Saturday night should have ended all doubt that he wasn't going to be on this roster.  Josh Johnson has done a commendable job all offseason, but I think you'll see him get a bulk of the snaps on Thursday night to allow him to possibly play into a job elsewhere.

Running Back:
In (5): Justin Forsett, Terrance West, Kenneth Dixon, Buck Allen, Kyle Juszczyk
PUP (1): Lorenzo Taliaferro
Out (1): Stephen Houston

I didn't think it was going to happen originally, but I think Buck was in serious danger before Dixon got hurt.  The injury probably saves his spot for the time being.  I fully expect West and Dixon to take over the bulk of the carries as the season goes on.  Taliaferro will stick on PUP in case we have a need midseason.

Wide Receiver:
In (7): Steve Smith, Kamar Aiken, Mike Wallace, Breshad Perriman, Chris Moore, Michael Campanaro, Jeremy Butler
Bubble (1): Keenan Reynolds
Out (4): Chris Matthews, Chuck Jacobs, Dobson Collins, Darius White

Jeremy Butler simply played his way onto the roster, and I don't see any way you can cut him at this point.  We may not really need 7, but it could also really help if we want to ease Steve and Breshad back into it.  Keenan Reynolds remains on my bubble simply because I believe coaches really do love him.  I think he's much more on the side of being cut, though.

Tight End:
In (3): Crockett Gillmore, Dennis Pitta, Maxx Williams
Bubble (1): Daniel Brown
IR (1): Ben Watson
Susp. (2): Darren Waller, Nick Boyle

This position got interesting with Watson's injury, as Pitta and Williams remain out.  It sounds like Williams and Pitta should both be back by week 1, but should they not, Daniel Brown may sneak his way on.  So much for all of that depth, right?  Waller should get a roster spot upon his return from suspension.

Offensive Line:
In (8): Ronnie Stanley, Alex Lewis, Jeremy Zuttah, Marshal Yanda, Rick Wagner, John Urschel, Ryan Jensen, De'Ondre Wesley
Bubble (2): Vlad Ducasse, James Hurst
Out (5): Blaine Clausell, Stephane Nembot, Matt Skura, Anthony Fabiano, Jarell Broxton

I think the only real question here right now is who gets the 8th OL spot.  I opted for Wesley at this point since I'm going to guess that Lewis will open at LG in week 1, and I think they might want a true backup T for the time being.  It's a coin flip between Ducasse and Wesley for me, though.  It really could go either way.  I can't completely rule out Hurst either, though.

Defensive Line:
In (6): Brandon Williams, Timmy Jernigan, Lawrence Guy, Carl Davis, Brent Urban, Willie Henry
Bubble (2): Kapron Lewis-Moore, Michael Pierce
Out (1): Trevon Coley
IR (1): Bronson Kaufusi

I think we'd really like to keep a 7th here as Henry is in need of some development, but the numbers just don't allow.  If a need arises, I'm going to guess the team feels confident that they could pick someone up to plug in like they've done so often in the past.  I think they'd really like Pierce to clear waivers and go the practice squad, but I think a team could value a NT enough to claim him.

Inside Linebacker:
In (4): CJ Mosley, Zach Orr, Kamalei Correa, Anthony Levine
Bubble (1): Arthur Brown
Out (2): Patrick Onwuasor, Kavell Conner

Don't overlook Arthur Brown simply due to the numbers.  Correa has been playing a bit more outside as the preseason went along, and Levine still isn't a traditional ILB.  Arthur could stick due to a lack of true ILB depth.  I still have him out for now, but he's also on the 1st team ST unit so he could be a surprise to some.

Outside Linebacker:
In (6): Terrell Suggs, Elvis Dumervil, Albert McClellan, Za'Darius Smith, Matt Judon, Chris Carter
Out (3): Brennen Beyer, Victor Ochi, Mario Ojemudia

Chris Carter may not have done much since the 1st preseason game, but he looks like a mainstay on ST and I think that could give him a roster spot.  He's another with the versatility to play ILB which could help us go a little lighter there.  Ochi could come down with an "injury" and take a year off.

Cornerback:
In (5): Jimmy Smith, Shareece Wright, Tavon Young, Will Davis, Jerraud Powers
Bubble (2): Sheldon Price, Maurice Canady
Out (2): Kyle Arrington, Carrington Byndom

I really wanted to go 6 here, but this was another time where I had to step back and consider what I think the Ravens will do.  We've seen so little of Canady because he's been injured that I'm not sure he makes it.  Price has been a decent option, but I'm not sure he's done enough to make it.  Levine being versatile could cost them jobs, but I wouldn't be shocked at all to see either of them make it.  They represent #54 and #55 on my roster solely because they are CBs.

Safety:
In (4): Eric Weddle, Lardarius Webb, Kendrick Lewis, Terrence Brooks
Out (2): Matt Elam, Julian Wilson

It's a shame Elam got hurt since he seemed to be doing well, but can't play if you're hurt.  That likely saved Brooks, although he didn't play well on Saturday.  Kendrick Lewis is interesting as he hasn't practiced in a couple of weeks, so we'll see how that plays out.

Special Teams:
In (3): Justin Tucker, Sam Koch, Morgan Cox
Out (1): Wil Lutz

Another year of no comments here.

[Willbacker]

It does seem like it comes down to a couple of slots and looking at most of the picks they're relatively the same. @BmoreBird22 is spot on imo except I'd maybe try to ps Canady and replace him with Price. Buck is also making it cuz of Dixon's injury.

One thing Ive noticed during the preseason games tho is on SpTeams Ive seen the likes of Daniel Brown,Beyer,A Brown and Reynolds playing exclusively on every kickoff and punt. Do you guys think that this has any bearing at all on the makeup of the roster?

[rmw10]

25 minutes ago, Willbacker said:

It does seem like it comes down to a couple of slots and looking at most of the picks they're relatively the same. @BmoreBird22 is spot on imo except I'd maybe try to ps Canady and replace him with Price. Buck is also making it cuz of Dixon's injury.

One thing Ive noticed during the preseason games tho is on SpTeams Ive seen the likes of Daniel Brown,Beyer,A Brown and Reynolds playing exclusively on every kickoff and punt. Do you guys think that this has any bearing at all on the makeup of the roster?

To an extent.  in the case of Arthur Brown, maybe.  He's been a regular with the 1st team ST units.  On Saturday, Brown, Beyer, and Reynolds all got extensive work on ST, but not with the main group.

[rossihunter2]

10 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

To an extent.  in the case of Arthur Brown, maybe.  He's been a regular with the 1st team ST units.  On Saturday, Brown, Beyer, and Reynolds all got extensive work on ST, but not with the main group.

it also needs to remembered that jerry rosberg said a lot of the best special teamers havent played a special teams snap yet - like juice, orr, mclellan, levine

[rmw10]

4 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

it also needs to remembered that jerry rosberg said a lot of the best special teamers havent played a special teams snap yet - like juice, orr, mclellan, levine

Some of them also might not play ST near as much as all of them are looking to have relatively large roles on defense going forward.

Edited August 29, 2016 by rmw10