My Current Guess At The Ravens 53-Man Roster (Merged)

[Tank 92]

32 minutes ago, EdTheMythicalOne said:

Not trying to trash you or the people who work hard on the articles here, but if you are only getting your information from the "analysis" from this site you'd think the Ravens were choc full of Pro Bowlers at every position. Somebody makes ONE play on a 7 vs 7 drill and they act like he's the second coming. Look at all the praise Matt Elam is getting for actually making a tackle. Take what you read here with a grain of salt, and I don't mean that about many of the knowledgeable posters on the forums.

While I don't doubt an optimistic tilt at times, I think the beat writers here do a pretty honest job of reporting player performance. I don't see attempts to artificially embellish or misrepresent. And I haven't read any comments here from posters that have attended practices that disagree with anything that has been written about Pitta or Elam. The only negative comments I have read recently about either player have come from folks that are making suppositions based on past performance. 

[EdTheMythicalOne]

24 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

While I don't doubt an optimistic tilt at times, I think the beat writers here do a pretty honest job of reporting player performance. I don't see attempts to artificially embellish or misrepresent. And I haven't read any comments here from posters that have attended practices that disagree with anything that has been written about Pitta or Elam. The only negative comments I have read recently about either player have come from folks that are making suppositions based on past performance. 

Then you must not be reading all of the articles here that proclaim so and so as the next playmaker and who will be the next break out peformer all during OTA's and training camp. There are plenty to choose from. I don't make any suppositions on anything. I base what I say on what I see on the field. Since I don't go see practices I don't really comment on them other than to say....it is practice. You can't judge anything really from practice other than work ethic. A guy making a play on non contact 7 on 7 drills means absolutely nothing. A guy making a play on non contact 11 on 11 drills means nothing. A guy picking off a pass off of a QB that will not be in the NFL while covering receivers that won't be in the NFL means nothing.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

56 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

Clay was released almost a week ago, foot, out for the year.

I wasn't actually paying as close attention to things as I usually do, but yeah he was waived on 8/15 after sustaining a foot injury in practice. I think his time in Baltimore was done anyway but it is a shame for a guy to go down with a bad injury. The Ravens picked up WR Darius White to take his roster spot.

I heard Stan White say that Clay was cut, but didn't hear them mention why. I thought it was because of the muffed punt in the previous game, they didn't say anything about his injury.

Edited August 21, 2016 by EdTheMythicalOne

[KBoum]

Gotta admit most writers on BR.com are pretty accurate when they are praising a player. They might praise a player that made a play but if they praise a player all preseason long, that means that guy stood out. They are a bit biased yes and tend to overreact but everyone does. But when I read multiple times that ZDS is playing a lot better and in GREAT shape, we kinda saw it during the first preseason game.

 

Now he needs to adjust and perform like that on a consistent basis in a game environment against new players and not the same 3-4 player each day. The thing about young player is consistency. I remember they were praising B. Williams in his first few years. He flashed at times like a dominant players but had technique problems or mental error on some other plays.

 

I remember Powers was one of the best player during OTAs.... but since the TC started, he's not playing so well and they were honest with it saying he's a deception during TC. But the thing I wanna say is if a guy is doing great stuff day in day out in practice, he might take some time to do it in a game vs differents opponents but that doesn't mean he those reporters are liars or overreacting. Thats why you have 4 preseason games, OTAs, TC, minicamp and everything. You can't judge a player so quickly. It takes times and even if you say Elam only made 1 tackle yesterday, I saw coach Harbaugh and one of BR reporter saying he's been making plays ALL camp long and that was the same last year. You have a lot more reps in a training camp practice than in a preseason game when you play vanilla defence with different teammates and only play 15-25 snaps.

[VermontRaven]

Here are my thoughts at each position for the 53 man roster:

QB-LOCK-Flacco,   Iffy-Mallett, Josh Johnson,   Cut-Jerrod Johnson

RB-LOCK-West, Dixon, VERY PROBABLE-Forsett and Allen---don't see us cutting any of them, but I think West and Dixon are the safest bets.  Forsett's experience is too valuable and don't think we are ready to give up on Allen.    Cut-Houston, Taliaferro

FB-JUICE

WR-LOCKS- SSS, Aiken, Wallace, Moore Perriman (if not on PUP)  PROBABLE-Campanaro (if healthy)  Iffy-Butler, Reynolds  Cut-Matthews, Jacobs, Collins, White

OL-LOCKS- Stanley, Urshel, Zuttah, Yanda, Wagner, Lewis,   IFFY-Hurst, Jensen, Ducasse, Wesley (I think we keep 2 of those)  Cut-Clausell, Skura, Broxton (PS maybe?) Nembot (PS maybe?), Fabiano

TE- LOCKS-Watson, Pitta, Gillmore, Williams SUSPENDED-Boyle, Waller,  CUT-Brown,

DL- LOCKS-Williams, Jernigan, Guy, Davis, Henry, Urban  IFFY-Lewis-Moore,   IR-Kaufusi, CUT-Pierce, Coley

LB- LOCKS-Suggs, Doom, Mosley, Orr, ZSmith, Correa,  IFFY-Brown, Mclellan, Carter,  CUT-Ochi (PS), Connor, Onwuasor, Beyer, Ojemudia

CB- LOCKS- JSmith, Wright, Powers, Young, PROBABLE-Davis,  IFFY-Canady, Cut-Arrington, Price (PS?)

S- LOCKS-Weddle, Webb, PROBABLE-Lewis, Elam, IFFY-Brooks, Levine, CUT-Sam Brown, Wilson

ST--LOCKS--Tucker, Koch, Cox

 

40 LOCKS, 7 Probables----If those all are right, that leaves everyone else fighting for 6 spots:

Qb- 1 of those 6 spots will be Mallett or Josh Johnson

OL-2 spots (plus the 6 locks)--I"m going to guess Jensen and Wesley

    Leaves 3 spots left....my guesses are Jeremy Bulter, Albert Mclellan, and Anthony Levine

 

Thoughts???

 

[rmw10]

19 minutes ago, VermontRaven said:

Here are my thoughts at each position for the 53 man roster:

QB-LOCK-Flacco,   Iffy-Mallett, Josh Johnson,   Cut-Jerrod Johnson

RB-LOCK-West, Dixon, VERY PROBABLE-Forsett and Allen---don't see us cutting any of them, but I think West and Dixon are the safest bets.  Forsett's experience is too valuable and don't think we are ready to give up on Allen.    Cut-Houston, Taliaferro

FB-JUICE

WR-LOCKS- SSS, Aiken, Wallace, Moore Perriman (if not on PUP)  PROBABLE-Campanaro (if healthy)  Iffy-Butler, Reynolds  Cut-Matthews, Jacobs, Collins, White

OL-LOCKS- Stanley, Urshel, Zuttah, Yanda, Wagner, Lewis,   IFFY-Hurst, Jensen, Ducasse, Wesley (I think we keep 2 of those)  Cut-Clausell, Skura, Broxton (PS maybe?) Nembot (PS maybe?), Fabiano

TE- LOCKS-Watson, Pitta, Gillmore, Williams SUSPENDED-Boyle, Waller,  CUT-Brown,

DL- LOCKS-Williams, Jernigan, Guy, Davis, Henry, Urban  IFFY-Lewis-Moore,   IR-Kaufusi, CUT-Pierce, Coley

LB- LOCKS-Suggs, Doom, Mosley, Orr, ZSmith, Correa,  IFFY-Brown, Mclellan, Carter,  CUT-Ochi (PS), Connor, Onwuasor, Beyer, Ojemudia

CB- LOCKS- JSmith, Wright, Powers, Young, PROBABLE-Davis,  IFFY-Canady, Cut-Arrington, Price (PS?)

S- LOCKS-Weddle, Webb, PROBABLE-Lewis, Elam, IFFY-Brooks, Levine, CUT-Sam Brown, Wilson

ST--LOCKS--Tucker, Koch, Cox

 

40 LOCKS, 7 Probables----If those all are right, that leaves everyone else fighting for 6 spots:

Qb- 1 of those 6 spots will be Mallett or Josh Johnson

OL-2 spots (plus the 6 locks)--I"m going to guess Jensen and Wesley

    Leaves 3 spots left....my guesses are Jeremy Bulter, Albert Mclellan, and Anthony Levine

 

Thoughts???

 

Looks like you missed Judon.

Think you have some in "iffy" that are locks, most notably McClellan and Levine.

I wouldn't even put Pitta in the lock category considering he hasn't been on the actual game field yet.

[VermontRaven]

2 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Looks like you missed Judon.

Think you have some in "iffy" that are locks, most notably McClellan and Levine.

I wouldn't even put Pitta in the lock category considering he hasn't been on the actual game field yet.

My bad on Judon.  Definitely an oversight there.  Can't see how he doesn't make the team.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

1 hour ago, VermontRaven said:

My bad on Judon.  Definitely an oversight there.  Can't see how he doesn't make the team.

Waller is suspended as well for the first 4 games. I was iffy on Pitta making the roster as well, but that was before he was making this apparently miraculous comeback and actually participating fully in practice. He hasn't been on the field in a pre season game yet, but he supposedly has an injured finger thanks to a scuffle he got into with Correa.

I think Ducasse has been outplaying Wesley so far.

Sam Brown was already cut.

McClellan is supposedly taking over starting SAM duties on running downs like Upshaw did. Levine I think is a lot more than iffy. They love him, he's versatile, and he contributes on special teams.

 

[Kid87]

After 2nd Preseason Game 

QB Flacco / Johnson that's wears No.2

HB WEST/ Forsett/ Dixon 

FB JUICE

TE Watson/ Crockett/ Pitta/ Maxx

WR Kamar/ Wallace / steve/ Perriman / Butler / Moore 

T Stanley/ Wagner/ Hurst/ Westley 

G Urshel/ Yanda/ Lewis

C Zuttah / Jensen

DL Jernigan/ Williams/ Guy/ Urban/ pierce/ Henry 

OLB Suggs/ Doom / judon/ McClellan / Smith / Carter

ILB Cj, Correa, Orr

CB Jimmy, Davis, young, Powers, Canady 

FS webb, Levine

SS weddle, elam, Brooks

Special Tucker, Koch, cox 

Edited August 22, 2016 by Kid87

[VermontRaven]

8 minutes ago, Kid87 said:

After 2nd Preseason Game 

QB Flacco / Johnson that's wears No.2

HB WEST/ Forsett/ Dixon 

FB JUICE

TE Watson/ Crockett/ Pitta/ Maxx

WR Kamar/ Wallace / steve/ Perriman / Butler / Moore 

T Stanley/ Wagner/ Hurst/ Westley 

G Urshel/ Yanda/ Lewis

C Zuttah / Jensen

DL Jernigan/ Williams/ Guy/ Urban/ pierce/ Henry 

OLB Suggs/ Doom / judon/ McClellan / Smith / Carter

ILB Cj, Correa, Orr

CB Jimmy, Davis, young, Powers, Canady 

FS webb, Levine

SS weddle, elam, Brooks

Special Tucker, Koch, cox 

I somehow doubt we cut Buck Allen, Carl Davis, and Shareece Wright.

[January J]

3 hours ago, Kid87 said:

After 2nd Preseason Game 

QB Flacco / Johnson that's wears No.2

HB WEST/ Forsett/ Dixon 

FB JUICE

TE Watson/ Crockett/ Pitta/ Maxx

WR Kamar/ Wallace / steve/ Perriman / Butler / Moore 

T Stanley/ Wagner/ Hurst/ Westley 

G Urshel/ Yanda/ Lewis

C Zuttah / Jensen

DL Jernigan/ Williams/ Guy/ Urban/ pierce/ Henry 

OLB Suggs/ Doom / judon/ McClellan / Smith / Carter

ILB Cj, Correa, Orr

CB Jimmy, Davis, young, Powers, Canady 

FS webb, Levine

SS weddle, elam, Brooks

Special Tucker, Koch, cox 

No buck Allen...we just signed shareece to a decent size contract and once again...who is the punt returner in this scenario?

[Kid87]

39 minutes ago, January J said:

No buck Allen...we just signed shareece to a decent size contract and once again...who is the punt returner in this scenario?

Yeah Buck would be in and one of the TE's out... Jeremy Butler is clearly better than Campnero.. Dixon and Webb at Special Teams..

[Kid87]

3 hours ago, VermontRaven said:

I somehow doubt we cut Buck Allen, Carl Davis, and Shareece Wright.

He hasn't looked as good this year.. will Davis is better, but I would put him in with Elam on the PUp

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, Kid87 said:

He hasn't looked as good this year.. will Davis is better, but I would put him in with Elam on the PUp

Taliaferro is the only person eligible for PUP. Can't just place anyone there. Once you practice for the first time, you're not eligible. 

[KBoum]

Some surprising guys could make the cut...

 

Beyer, Carter. Gotta take a look who's running with the ones on special teams. Beyer they seem to like him a lot. Size similar to McClellan. Since McClellan will play more base defense they are probably looking for a ST ace. I also began to take a look at the offensive personal during the preseason games and a few things stood out :

 

- VERY few plays with a FB (Is Juice on the spot ?)

- 2 TEs set are interesting so they might keep 4 TEs (if Pitta can play... or maybe play Juice in a H-Back kind of role)

- Dixon, Forsett, West are all running back that can 1 cut and don't really need a lead blocker.

- I like the crossing patterns from play actions something that was missing A LOT from the Ravens before Kubiak/Trestman. I love the more West Coast looks

- The Ravens need a speester so Wallace, Perriman or Moore gotta stay healthy and be effective or every teams are going to jam the box.

 

I'm not the biggest Trestman fan but the schemes look better this season. Now they have to run the dam ball better

 

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, KBoum said:

Some surprising guys could make the cut...

 

Beyer, Carter. Gotta take a look who's running with the ones on special teams. Beyer they seem to like him a lot. Size similar to McClellan. Since McClellan will play more base defense they are probably looking for a ST ace. I also began to take a look at the offensive personal during the preseason games and a few things stood out :

 

- VERY few plays with a FB (Is Juice on the spot ?)

- 2 TEs set are interesting so they might keep 4 TEs (if Pitta can play... or maybe play Juice in a H-Back kind of role)

- Dixon, Forsett, West are all running back that can 1 cut and don't really need a lead blocker.

- I like the crossing patterns from play actions something that was missing A LOT from the Ravens before Kubiak/Trestman. I love the more West Coast looks

- The Ravens need a speester so Wallace, Perriman or Moore gotta stay healthy and be effective or every teams are going to jam the box.

 

I'm not the biggest Trestman fan but the schemes look better this season. Now they have to run the dam ball better

 

Beyer was an interesting one to me, because he was 1st team on all of the ST units - punt coverage, punt return, kick coverage, kick return.  I'm going to keep an eye on him.  He only played 4 snaps on defense though, but we'll see.

I'm interested in Juice as well.  There weren't very many FB plays as there were a lot of 2 TE sets.  However, he was out of the game early with the rest of the starters so I assume he's safe.

[jboy19]

I'm thinking it shakes out like: 

QB: Flacco, Mallett (Cut: Johnson, Johnson)

HB: Forsett, Allen, West, Dixon (PUP: Taliaferro; Cut: Houston)

FB: Juice

WR: Aiken, Smith, Perriman, Wallace, Moore, Camp (Cut: Butler, Collins, Jacobs, Matthews, Reynolds-PS, White)

TE: Watson, Gillmore, Williams, Pitta (SUS: Waller, Boyle; Cut: Brown)

OT: Stanley, Wagner, Lewis (Cut: Clausell, Nembot-PS, Wesley-PS)

OG: Yanda, Urschel, Hurst (Cut: Ducasse, Fabiano, Broxton)

C: Zuttah, Jensen (Cut: Skura-PS)

DL: Williams, Jernigan, Guy, Urban, Davis, Henry (Cut: KLM, Coley, Pierce-PS; IR: Kaufusi)

OLB: Suggs, Dumervil, Smith, McClellan, Judon (Cut: Beyer-PS, Carter; Ochi-PS, Ojemudia) 

MLB: Mosley, Orr, Correa, Levine (Cut: Brown, Conner, Onwuasor-PS)

CB: Smith, Wright, Powers, Young, Price, Davis (Cut: Arrington, Byndom, Canady-PS, Wilson)

S: Weddle, Webb, Lewis, Brooks (IR: Elam)

SPEC: Tucker, Koch, Cox (Cut: Lutz)

Don't think I missed anybody

Edit: Looks like I had 54. So I'm thinking Butler or Price is out- Butler on this.  

Edited August 23, 2016 by jboy19

[VermontRaven]

7 minutes ago, jboy19 said:

I'm thinking it shakes out like: 

QB: Flacco, Mallett (Cut: Johnson, Johnson)

HB: Forsett, Allen, West, Dixon (PUP: Taliaferro; Cut: Houston)

FB: Juice

WR: Aiken, Smith, Perriman, Wallace, Moore, Camp (Cut: Butler, Collins, Jacobs, Matthews, Reynolds-PS, White)

TE: Watson, Gillmore, Williams, Pitta (SUS: Waller, Boyle; Cut: Brown)

OT: Stanley, Wagner, Lewis (Cut: Clausell, Nembot-PS, Wesley-PS)

OG: Yanda, Urschel, Hurst (Cut: Ducasse, Fabiano, Broxton)

C: Zuttah, Jensen (Cut: Skura-PS)

DL: Williams, Jernigan, Guy, Urban, Davis, Henry (Cut: KLM, Coley, Pierce-PS; IR: Kaufusi)

OLB: Suggs, Dumervil, Smith, McClellan, Judon (Cut: Beyer-PS, Carter; Ochi-PS, Ojemudia) 

MLB: Mosley, Orr, Correa, Levine (Cut: Brown, Conner, Onwuasor-PS)

CB: Smith, Wright, Powers, Young, Price, Davis (Cut: Arrington, Byndom, Canady-PS, Wilson)

S: Weddle, Webb, Lewis, Brooks (IR: Elam)

SPEC: Tucker, Koch, Cox (Cut: Lutz)

Don't think I missed anybody

Edit: Looks like I had 54. So I'm thinking Butler or Price is out- Butler on this.  

I for the most part agree with you; however I think Price goes to the PS and we keep Butler.  I know it's a number's crunch at WR, but I think Butler has earned the spot.  On the OL, I see a wide open competition for the last spot between Hurst, Ducasse, and Wesley.

[jboy19]

1 minute ago, VermontRaven said:

I for the most part agree with you; however I think Price goes to the PS and we keep Butler.  I know it's a number's crunch at WR, but I think Butler has earned the spot.  On the OL, I see a wide open competition for the last spot between Hurst, Ducasse, and Wesley.

Definitely Agree. I was just thinking that Hurst had the advantage because he's been at both tackle and guard and the coaching staff seems to like keeping him around. 

[ludy51]

1 hour ago, jboy19 said:

I'm thinking it shakes out like: 

QB: Flacco, Mallett (Cut: Johnson, Johnson)

HB: Forsett, Allen, West, Dixon (PUP: Taliaferro; Cut: Houston)

FB: Juice

WR: Aiken, Smith, Perriman, Wallace, Moore, Camp (Cut: Butler, Collins, Jacobs, Matthews, Reynolds-PS, White)

TE: Watson, Gillmore, Williams, Pitta (SUS: Waller, Boyle; Cut: Brown)

OT: Stanley, Wagner, Lewis (Cut: Clausell, Nembot-PS, Wesley-PS)

OG: Yanda, Urschel, Hurst (Cut: Ducasse, Fabiano, Broxton)

C: Zuttah, Jensen (Cut: Skura-PS)

DL: Williams, Jernigan, Guy, Urban, Davis, Henry (Cut: KLM, Coley, Pierce-PS; IR: Kaufusi)

OLB: Suggs, Dumervil, Smith, McClellan, Judon (Cut: Beyer-PS, Carter; Ochi-PS, Ojemudia) 

MLB: Mosley, Orr, Correa, Levine (Cut: Brown, Conner, Onwuasor-PS)

CB: Smith, Wright, Powers, Young, Price, Davis (Cut: Arrington, Byndom, Canady-PS, Wilson)

S: Weddle, Webb, Lewis, Brooks (IR: Elam)

SPEC: Tucker, Koch, Cox (Cut: Lutz)

Don't think I missed anybody

Edit: Looks like I had 54. So I'm thinking Butler or Price is out- Butler on this.  

Cutting Daniel Brown?

[VermontRaven]

17 minutes ago, ludy51 said:

Cutting Daniel Brown?

Yup, I don't think the numbers work out for him with four quality TEs ahead of him (Watson, Pitta, Gillmore, Williams), not to mention the luxury of stashing 2 on the suspended list (Waller, Boyle) in case an injury occurs.

[rmw10]

28 minutes ago, ludy51 said:

Cutting Daniel Brown?

I would, and wouldn't have a second thought about it. 

[ludy51]

10 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I would, and wouldn't have a second thought about it. 

Congrats...?

[rmw10]

18 minutes ago, ludy51 said:

Congrats...?

Just saying.  I don't think he really factors into the roster equation.  Don't think he's in any serious consideration.

[KBoum]

I don't see how he will make the team but cutting Butler will be HARD. He really worked hard in the last few seasons and improved a lot. He reminds me a bit of Aiken coming out of the Pats camp IIRC.... they had to cut him.

 

If the Ravens can stash Reynolds on PS or IR and there are some injuries Butler might make it. He's playing well but at the end of the day its a numbers game.

1- SSS

2- Wallace

3- Aiken

4- Perriman

5- Moore

6- Camp

7- Butler if they keep 7. But they are probably keeping 4 RBs... 4 TEs... Thats more than usual on offense. Gotta find some STs players somewhere

[rmw10]

13 minutes ago, KBoum said:

I don't see how he will make the team but cutting Butler will be HARD. He really worked hard in the last few seasons and improved a lot. He reminds me a bit of Aiken coming out of the Pats camp IIRC.... they had to cut him.

 

If the Ravens can stash Reynolds on PS or IR and there are some injuries Butler might make it. He's playing well but at the end of the day its a numbers game.

1- SSS

2- Wallace

3- Aiken

4- Perriman

5- Moore

6- Camp

7- Butler if they keep 7. But they are probably keeping 4 RBs... 4 TEs... Thats more than usual on offense. Gotta find some STs players somewhere

As you kind of mentioned, the best thing working in Butler's favor is that he's a special teams guy.  No one else in that lineup, outside of Camp at PR, is a special teams guy.

[omar586]

butler is a keeper, he has earned it, if they can find a RB that can return kicks, we might cut camp and keep butler.

Edited August 24, 2016 by omar586

[Kid87]

6 hours ago, omar586 said:

butler is a keeper, he has earned it, if they can find a RB that can return kicks, we might cut camp and keep butler.

 I agree Dixon and Return kicks, Butler has was is defintley a better WR than Camp.. he should definitely make it this year

[Purple_City39]

Even though he returns kicks, I wouldn't keep Camp and cut Butler.  Campanaro has proven he's always one sneeze away from injury.  And Butler has been great at WR.  Considering Smith and Perriman are coming back from serious injury, and Moore just had a walking boot on two weeks ago (all seem healthy now), I just wouldn't want to depend on a guy to back them up who's more injury prone than they are

[rmw10]

45 minutes ago, Purple_City39 said:

Even though he returns kicks, I wouldn't keep Camp and cut Butler.  Campanaro has proven he's always one sneeze away from injury.  And Butler has been great at WR.  Considering Smith and Perriman are coming back from serious injury, and Moore just had a walking boot on two weeks ago (all seem healthy now), I just wouldn't want to depend on a guy to back them up who's more injury prone than they are

It's been pretty much made known that Camp is on this team as long as he stays healthy between now and cut day.