Which Draft Pick do you think will be the Biggest Impact Player this season?

[K-Dog]

Who WILL and who SHOULD, could well be two different things.

Stanley without a doubt, SHOULD make the biggest difference.  Joe has time, Joe can do almost anything.  Give our backs room to move and woah nelly !!!!!  ( Yup.  I said it.  "Woah nelly " )  he has all he needs to be the next J.O. ( not a comparison )
I think our O-line night take time to gel and get all the pieces in place.  Maybe a few weeks, I dunno. 

As far as who will ? I really don't know.  There is a lot to like in Correa, Dixon and Young.
( We did good this year I think.... )

[Raven'evermore]

 Stanley/Dixon.

 Stanley, especially if Monroe goes down again because if Stanley isn't there to fill in for Monroe, then we're probably talking about Joe being sacked more often and also losing a lot of 3rd down opportunities.  

 Dixon because except for the butter fingers problem, he may be close to Elliott in talent and I think Elliott would have made the quickest and most impactful difference had we gotten him.  The only reason I would choose Stanley over Dixon is because I believe Dixon might take awhile before he's given a starting role.  Hope I'm wrong.

[kakybaby2]

I think Stanley and K.dixon make the largest impact in there rookie season,  Also, I think Alex can have a huge role.

Edited May 11, 2016 by kakybaby2

[Winchester]

This draft was so loaded in round3-4 I would of traded next year's #1 pick for a round 3 and a pair of round4 picks in this draft. Then traded all the late round picks to trade back into round4. And added one of Coleman/ Ngakoue,Reshard Robinson,Ridgewayand one of Demarcus Robinson/Malcolm Mitchell. All very skilled players witb pro bowl potential. my opinionReshard Robinson is the best cornerback in the draft!! I like him as much as I liked Ron Darby in the draft. I know many of my ravens fan mates are going to disagree and call it a ridiculous idea. But I believe those players to be early round talents. And Will help the ravens to a championship.So it is trading a late round pick for impact talent!!

Edited May 12, 2016 by Winchester

[Winchester]

21 hours ago, Winchester said:

ĐWhile I like Dixon a lot!! my favorite pick is will Henry. He is powerful explosive flexible and lives in the gym at only 20 yrs old. He reminds me a little of Geno Atkins one of my top3 players and projected draft steals of all time. He is a gym warrior like Atkins. However he needs to focus his energy on functional football muscle through nutrition  like Atkins. This means tons of CALF and leg work and stretching. Focus on shoulders wrists and core in his upper bod. And pack on about 15 lbs of symmetrical functional muscle from his calves thighs,shoulders, core, forearms and triceps. While cutting about 10-16 lbs of fat. Atkins is fanatical about optimal muscle to fat ratio for max power, flexibility and burst. He definitely has the drive to do it. Because I heard he is a total gym addict!! I would like to refer him to some Maryland trainers that are world renowned muscle building trainers/nutritionists as well as a functional strength/flexibility trainer that incorporates lots of high tech martial arts training. As well as the marinovich program that focuses on activating fast twitch muscle (same training Troy polamalu turned to after he felt injuries took some of his explosion.it was actually early in his career. Troy says he would never of played at all Pro level in his late 20s if not for marinovich program helping strengthen and activate fast twitch muscle and avoid nagging injuries)

 

Olympic wrestlers use it because it strengthens muscles needed to engage and control opponents. Will Henry has raw skills and relentless workout warrior. He is a definite candidate to sharpen his edges and learn how to max his hard work. He could be a double digit sack player in the same category of Atkins/Donald. Strong as a nosetackle yet explosive as a LB. Dixon could benefit from similar training/nutrition and maybe even be the best running back in the draft. Nutrition and steady protein intake is sadly ignored by majority of nfl players to maximize workouts. Ravens should be the first team to choreograph an intense scientific workout for every individual player as well as strict nutrition  to maximize the training routine. It would be very innovative and light years beyond what rival teams do. Ravens focused on work ethic and love for the game and the desire to be great. So help the players maximize their workouts to a new level beyond what any rival team is doing. It will give the ravens an edge as a team. Shannon Sharpe was considered to small for TE and to slow for WR. So he maximized his muscle and power and body fat for optimal speed through hard training and fanatical nutrition to gain enough muscle to be a functional blocker while maintaining speed similar to a WR. He acknowledges he would never of been nfl caliber much less hall of fame if not for maxing his muscle and speed through nutrition and target muscle to fat ratio. McCrary the same thing. Ray Lewis credits Shannon Sharpe for taking his game to an extra gear through nutrition to add muscle while maintaining speed.

.So what are some thoughts on this. If ravens are going to focus on character and players that want to be great then why not take it further. And redesign the system of trainng and practice methods?? Every player interviewed before the draft will be asked if he will comply with a strict training and nutrition program to hit target weight, muscle and fat ratios for his position and and job. A player can hit the weights and training very hard  But nutrition is undervalued yet dictates a person's muscle growth and fat gain/drop. For example 2 similar players with similar size and skills can Do the same intense training. Yet nutrition and calorie intake will determine muscle and strength gains and fat loss. A player can eat 3000-4000 calories a day of  bacon pork rinds and jelly beans and he is not going to pack on nearly the muscle and strength of somebody eating 3000-4000 calories consisting of 6 meals a day of good protein, complex carbs and good usable fats as well as sports supplements to help muscle and strength gains. Just as the player consuming 4500 good clean calories will gain muscle and power but not lose large amounts of fat. (Which is a good plan for a tackle to follow) While the linebacker that consumes 3000-3500  clean calories a day with muscle building supplements will pack on muscle but a a slightly slower pace. But he will lean out a little more in the process. Somebody like Kufusi would follow the 3000 nutritious high protein plan to add some muscle while dropping body fat for a stronger emphasis on more speed while packing on some muscle for power and explosion. Will Henry would follow the 4000 good nutritious calories with sports supplements for a greater emphasis on gaining fast twitch muscle in his calves, hips,core,shoulders,triceps and forearms for extra power and explosion in the trenches while a smaller emphasis on leaning out a little simultaneously or even packing on the fast twitch muscle while his body fat remains pretty much the same. Then once he packs on his 12-16 lbs of symmetrical functional muscke he would then adjust his calories to add muscle at a slower rate while placing a more dominant emphasis dropping 12-16 lbs of body fat to add a step of explosion.

 

Then the ravens next phase of training is an expert trainer that works with the strength trainer to help the new muscle fire and incorporate flexibility in the muscle. This trainer specialises in flexibility, core strength and central nervous system activating firing fast twitch muscle fiber. To ensure the player remains and even increases flexibility in the new muscle and power and core strength. Players like jj watt and Ryan Kerrigan incorporate this level of training and nutrition to get their games at optimal levels. Kerrigan acknowledges if not for his intense training and nutrition he would not be a double digit sack artist. One thing he is missing however is the specialized training that activates the central nervous system to fire fast twitch muscle and the flexibility and core training. Adam Archuletta took his vertical from 27" to 40" with his phases of training/nutrition,central nervous system activating fast twitch muscle training.  That kind if increase is unheard of. He would not of been nfl caliber at all if not for his intense training. Think what a premier athlete like Kufusi and Henry could do with intense and scientific training and strict nutrition?? Those guys would be all pro!! Campanaro is following similar training to Archuletta this offseason. (Different program but some of the same principles) Will Henry and Kufusi are hard workers!! I'm sure those guys will be very interested in training and nutrition to be better players. 

 

Although combine measurables are just that. Measurables. Players should periodically test his vertical and broad jumps as well as 40 yard times,splits and shuttle times and weight lifting reps and numbers to track their increased speed,power,flexibility and explosion while packing on muscle and losing fat. In my opinion ravens will be doing and taking steps that rivals are not!! Ravens would be setting trends and getting individual players to play to their max optimal potential much like Jerry rice and watt. Watt is rumored to ask clown to train, eat and practice technique and watch film with him and told him he could be the best defensive player ever. Clown told watt he appreciated the offer but said he is good with his routines. And said he is not ready yet to train, practice and eat like watt. I would bet that Stanley Henry Kufusi  Dixon and Correa would be excited at such an offer!! I heard Moore wants to be a more fluid and sudden route runner and stronger at breaking tackles and is interested in intense training routines and could be hooking up witn campanaro or even has already. Have to like players coming in and looking to work harder, get faster and stronger and wanting to be great players. Players like Kufusi could get his game speed to 4.7 range  by leaning out while adding  some muscle and power. He could really be a freak of a player. What are some thoughts on ravens being trendsetters and winners. Raiders dominated Vikings in super bowl through cheating however. Their strength and dominance over Vikings great defensive players was a primary reason winning the game. However ravens would be using legal strategy within league rules. Kufusi Henry and Correa would terrorize opposing qbs. Those guys are players and already have a lot of talent and skill to maximize. 

 

[Virginia 55]

Dixon will have the biggest impact.  I think he is the best back in the draft if he hits the weight room and gets a solid meal plan.

He is strong at the point of impact.

He stays low and gets small in the holes. 

Shows a decent burst when attempting to get to the second level. 

Nice hands and pass protection.  

All he needs is a decent coach and weight training he looks polished already  

Edited May 16, 2016 by Virginia 55

[ellicottraven]

You know it’s hard to say which rookie will have the biggest impact. First let us determine the rookies that will play the most downs. To me, that seems like Stanley, Correa (ILB) followed by Dixon (3rd downs and goal line), Moore (depending on the health of Breshad), Reynolds (punt returns) and Young (Nickel back). Based on that the defensive positions seem to stand out in terms of impact because they can tackle. So, just from that perspective I believe Correa will have the biggest rookie impact.

[Jacquouille]

If he gets opportunities and is used in the right way, Henry would be very solid. He can have a similar impact to Carl Davis, just hoping he doesn't hit the rookie wall. Remember, C. Davis was very impressive in the preseason/1st three games.

[KBoum]

3 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

If he gets opportunities and is used in the right way, Henry would be very solid. He can have a similar impact to Carl Davis, just hoping he doesn't hit the rookie wall. Remember, C. Davis was very impressive in the preseason/1st three games.

while Carl Davis is more of a run stopper, Henry is very explosive/1 gap player who'll excel in passing situations. They'll probably take B. Williams out to play Henry/Jernigan as the 2 inside d-line thats pretty good.

[Winchester]

On 5/10/2016 at 1:07 PM, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

I think the obvious answer is Stanley. Theres an immediate opening to start for him and he was our 1st pick, plus i think hes an obvious and immediate upgrade over any other potential candidate for the LG spot.

But - I think Dixon has a shot to at least contribute on 3rd downs early if not win the RB job outright at some point in the season.

Kaufusi could potentially start at DE. He'll be right in a competition with Urban and Guy. On pure talent/potential he's probably got both beat, but Guy is a steady presence there and Urbans physical potential is off the charts too so thatll be interesting as it develops.

Young is another guy who could carve out an immediate role in the nickel, but i almost hope he doesnt bc that would mean Arrington likely plays well enough to hold him off which ultimately will be a good thing... bc aside from a down year last year hes been among the better nickel backs in the league... so theres that.

Final Answer - Stanley.... but Dixon and Kaufusi are strong potential candidates as well.

Kufusi is not an interior player. He is a 4-3 defensive end or a 3-4 rush olb. He is more likely to drop some excess weight and play olb unless ravens run 4-3 then he will play defensive end. He is not as stout as urban but a far better athlete. Kufusi could totally be a freak!! At the right play weight and body composition. Losing 16-20 lbs of body fat and packing on 10-13lbs of muscle is his sweet zone. It will put him at  stronger more explosive 280 lbs. From what i viewed in his play he can bend  And flatten a little better than he is credited for. A little burst of speed and power and ravens level coaching to add to his natural size power and athleticism and he will be quite a player!! It would be cool for he and Ron Stanley to train with Will Henry. Will is driven to be the strongest most explosive player in the game. He is all for learning all the tricks for muscle and explosion!! He is already an awesome athlete. He bends and gets low enough with enough explosion to beat his blockers without  much hand usage. He is raw BUT raw tools do not get much sharper than Will Henrys. Chris Moore is a good worker himself. He wants to get stronger and more explosive /flexible for separating and run after catch. Ravens came away with a very motivated class!!

[Jacquouille]

11 hours ago, KBoum said:

while Carl Davis is more of a run stopper, Henry is very explosive/1 gap player who'll excel in passing situations. They'll probably take B. Williams out to play Henry/Jernigan as the 2 inside d-line thats pretty good.

Carl Davis had some sacks and TFL didn't he? I remember him as a very good penetrator. But anyway, I've already said I'm craving to see Jernigan and Henry in a 4man front, with Correa as the OLB. That would be so nasty

[usmccharles]

12 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

Carl Davis had some sacks and TFL didn't he? I remember him as a very good penetrator. But anyway, I've already said I'm craving to see Jernigan and Henry in a 4man front, with Correa as the OLB. That would be so nasty

No sacks and 2 pass deflections.  Couldn't find TFL stats, but he had total of 11 tackles

[Jacquouille]

39 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

No sacks and 2 pass deflections.  Couldn't find TFL stats, but he had total of 11 tackles

Preseason?

[usmccharles]

4 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

Preseason?

1 Sack in preseason.  5 total tackles. 2 pass deflections.  5 asst

[Jacquouille]

Just now, usmccharles said:

1 Sack in preseason.  5 total tackles. 2 pass deflections.  5 asst

OK, I guess I overestimated his impact. So you guys see C. Davis as a 0tech?

[GrimCoconut]

We seemed to use Carl Davis at 0T when I watched preseason. He was seemingly benched early in the year and never really seemed to do much. Not sure what happened but I assume it was not properly executing his assignments as he should. We'll hopefully see more of him this year. 

[JoeyFlex5]

Carl Davis was a late first round talent who teams were scared of because he was rumored to be lazy and had a bad attitude. If either of those things are true, even in a mild sense, then it's not unreasonable to think we don't see much of him this year either, our DL talent is ridiculous so he's stuck in a logjam and if he's giving any less than 100% on and off the field this off-season then harbs won't be giving him a big role.

 

I hope that's not the case because I really liked Carl Davis coming out.

[Winchester]

6 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

Carl Davis had some sacks and TFL didn't he? I remember him as a very good penetrator. But anyway, I've already said I'm craving to see Jernigan and Henry in a 4man front, with Correa as the OLB. That would be so nasty

Jernigan Henry and Kufusi could be part of a really good 4 player front. Henry is a lot like Atkins. Very focused on getting stronger and faster. Kufusi could gain a step of burst and power by losing the bad weight to get faster for edge rusher position. and adding a little muscle. Potentially could be as good as Jared Allen. Correa would be awesome at olb blitzing on occasion with speed to cover and play all 3 downs. Not sure if Suggs  is interested  in coaching up young talent.

[ellicottraven]

It almost feels like we are all uber excited about our draft picks the year they're drafted and then the following years wonder where they went like in the case of Carl Davis, Kindle, Elam, Brooks, Cody, Arthur Brown, etc...  Hopefully, this year we hit on at least the first 3 picks and a couple of the latter round picks.

Edited May 16, 2016 by ellicottraven

[polynesian15]

7 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

Preseason?

But even if he did well in preseason... it's preseason. Carl Davis has been underwhelming so far imo, as has Jernigan despite a couple of flashes here and there.

[RavensDieHard21]

Perriman's arrival

[Jacquouille]

2 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

It almost feels like we are all uber excited about our draft picks the year they're drafted and then the following years wonder where they went like in the case of Carl Davis, Kindle, Elam, Brooks, Cody, Arthur Brown, etc...  Hopefully, this year we hit on at least the first 3 picks and a couple of the latter round picks.

Well you don't take the good examples ^^ I'm still optimistic for Davis, and also for Gilmore, Maxx, ZDS, Jernigan... I could also say Buck (but he might not see a lot of snaps now) and I like Brooks (when he plays). I'm still waiting to have a proper opinion on BP and Urban among others. Overall it's pretty solid.

[Cville-Raven]

A good LT would have biggest impact on the entire offense. Dixon and Moore will make sexy plays but at the end of the day Stanley will still be the most impactful.

[Jacquouille]

47 minutes ago, Cville-Raven said:

A good LT would have biggest impact on the entire offense. Dixon and Moore will make sexy plays but at the end of the day Stanley will still be the most impactful.

If he plays LT. 

[Cville-Raven]

8 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

It almost feels like we are all uber excited about our draft picks the year they're drafted and then the following years wonder where they went like in the case of Carl Davis, Kindle, Elam, Brooks, Cody, Arthur Brown, etc...  Hopefully, this year we hit on at least the first 3 picks and a couple of the latter round picks.

Why are you putting Carl Davis in with those other guys?

[Winchester]

10 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

It almost feels like we are all uber excited about our draft picks the year they're drafted and then the following years wonder where they went like in the case of Carl Davis, Kindle, Elam, Brooks, Cody, Arthur Brown, etc...  Hopefully, this year we hit on at least the first 3 picks and a couple of the latter round picks.

Only player I ever liked in that bunch is Davis. I do yet like his potential. Never cared for Elam Kindle or Brooks. Cody I take it you mean terrance cody?? Dan Cody I liked. But mount cokehead I never liked at all!! Then he turned out be garbage 

[ellicottraven]

32 minutes ago, Winchester said:

Only player I ever liked in that bunch is Davis. I do yet like his potential. Never cared for Elam Kindle or Brooks. Cody I take it you mean terrance cody?? Dan Cody I liked. But mount cokehead I never liked at all!! Then he turned out be garbage 

2 hours ago, Cville-Raven said:

Why are you putting Carl Davis in with those other guys?

32 minutes ago, Winchester said:

 

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32 minutes ago, Winchester said:

 

I did mean fat Cody. Yes Carl Davis can still make an impact but what concerns me is that the coaching staff continued to reduce his snaps as the season progressed, which leads me to believe he was either not picking up the nuances of the defense or was simply being outplayed by others.

[Winchester]

It really is a tough call who is going to be the best rookie. Will Henry will eventually be a top 5 penetrator or better. I heard geno atkins was lobbying for him. He is very motivated to be the strongest most explosive tackle in the league. Although I'm disappointed ravens did not get the Robinsons in round4 and Spence in round2 this is the best draft in yrs!! While I like the Ron Stanley pick I will feel better once he begins to look like he is packing on muscle.lol  Kufusi is a player that will be playing a different position. At his best play weight and muscle to fat ratio he could be a double digit sack producer. Dropping about 16-20lbs then packing on 10-13 lbs of muscle would do so much for him at rush old or 4-3 defensive end!! I mean really he could be an awesome force!! He is a good athlete especially for nearly 6' 7!! Has anybody realized he is as big and more explosive and productive than Buckner?? He is already more muscular and leaner than buckner. Somebody really needs to talk with him cuz if he leaned out and packed on a little muscle his potential is enormous!! T. Young and Dixon have skills to be really good rookies. Chris Moore is behind a lot of receivers but has all the skills to be a very good wr as a rookie. Tough call but the best draft by ravens in yrs. Not crazy about judon or Lewis 

[Jacquouille]

I'll agree with Winchester 

[Winchester]

This is a good discussion. Let's get some opinions and state your case and explanation who the impact rookies will be. I like many of the rookies. Will Henry/Dixon are my favorites. Henry has the raw tools of a geno Atkins and shriff Floyd fletcher cox with top shelf work ethic!! Will run a 4.8 snd bench 35 reps!!

Edited May 19, 2016 by Winchester