Welcome to Baltimore, Matt Judon, Round 5

[beanfigger]

7 hours ago, Winchester said:

That is because the media and commentators love the high character players and over rate them. Derrick Morgan should never of been a round pick but he is high character and got talked up

I also think Morgan would have been better as a square pick, possibly even hexagon.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

Welcome to the Raven family...

[ellicottraven]

I think you'll all appreciate Matt Judon after you finish this interview. He's just a straight shooting, humble kid who's very likeable. I hope this guy translates into the NFL!

 

[DomMcRaven]

48 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

I think you'll all appreciate Matt Judon after you finish this interview. He's just a straight shooting, humble kid who's very likeable. I hope this guy translates into the NFL!

Good post. Some of the questions they ask just make me laugh. All in all, I'm gonna try to keep a closer eye on him, but I'm not expecting much of him at this juncture. 

[jdynamite]

For some reason, I have a feeling this guy will have that surprise rookie year like McPhee had. 

Hope he trains hard, learns the playbook, works with doom and t-sizzle on pass rush moves and technique. 

[jdynamite]

14 hours ago, beanfigger said:

I also think Morgan would have been better as a square pick, possibly even hexagon.

Lol ( I literally laughed after reading this reply to that quote  of him being a round pick ) 

[arnie_uk]

27 years young. Not as good a pick as it first appears 

[GrimCoconut]

4 minutes ago, arnie_uk said:

27 years young. Not as good a pick as it first appears 

Where did you read this? If that's true that's old for a rookie. I'm really surprised I never read this sooner if that's true. Usually you hear that sorta thing. 

[arnie_uk]

Just now, GrimCoconut said:

Where did you read this? If that's true that's old for a rookie. I'm really surprised I never read this sooner if that's true. Usually you hear that sorta thing. 

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[arnie_uk]

Bleacher Report 
 

 

Judon's also not one of the younger prospects in the draft, having redshirted in 2010 during his first year on campus, then again in 2013 when he was out with the knee injury.

Sb Nation 
 

 

Judon was a sixth year senior after redshirting in 2010 and earning another redshirt after injuring his knee in the opening game of the 2013 season. He is a very mature player with the sheer amount of time spent at Grand Valley State and should be a great steal for an NFL team ready to go the Division II route.

[GrimCoconut]

1 minute ago, arnie_uk said:

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Ahhh, thanks. That's certainly strange that we didn't hear about that sooner but he does look older than your typical rookie. Either someone entered the wrong info or he's a really old rookie. I'm hoping the former.

[arnie_uk]

1 minute ago, GrimCoconut said:

Ahhh, thanks. That's certainly strange that we didn't hear about that sooner but he does look older than your typical rookie. Either someone entered the wrong info or he's a really old rookie. I'm hoping the former.

Some people trying to do the math based on post above think he's 24 or 25 and it's a typo. But who knows 

[GrimCoconut]

6 minutes ago, arnie_uk said:

Some people trying to do the math based on post above think he's 24 or 25 and it's a typo. But who knows 

That would be a lot better. I guess we'll have to see. Hopefully it is a typo lol. I guess we could always ask him via Twitter lol.

Apparently Reynolds is listed as being born in 1900, so I'm going to see if it's a typo lol.

Edited May 2, 2016 by GrimCoconut

[Cville-Raven]

41 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Apparently Reynolds is listed as being born in 1900, so I'm going to see if it's a typo lol.

lol grandpa can ball

They also list Correa as 24 even though he was born in 1995 so that's wrong...

Edited May 2, 2016 by Cville-Raven

[RavensDieHard21]

On 5/1/2016 at 0:28 AM, JoeyFlex5 said:

I've been very hapoy with this draft but I see a lot of hype on this kid and I just watched some quick film and came off unimpressed. He doesn't seem to get off the ball fast at all. His step is slow and he times the snap inconsistent. 

 

He has hands like he came from a big ten school though, he makes lightwork of the tackles outside shoulder frequently. I love His underhook.

I mean come on he is 280 lbs, first step isn't great, but his closing speed once he gets around that corner is impressive for his size and once he has his eyes locked in on the QB, he finished. His underhook is great and those Tackles often had no chance. Kiper said he had him pegged as a third rounder, so that is instant value and he can be groomed here. He possesses all the physical tools I feel are needed.

[elemento]

He is 23 y/o. 

" LynnO ‏@MeteorReed May 2
@jeffzrebiecsun Quick question, Matt Judon is listed as being 27 on the Ravens' website. Is he really that old? Kinda weird if he is.

Jeff Zrebiec ‏@jeffzrebiecsun May 2
@MeteorReed Doesn't seem right to me. But I haven't had much luck finding a birthdate for him.

LynnO ‏@MeteorReed May 2
@jeffzrebiecsun hmm, that seems odd. His college profile says he redshirted and got hurt so he was a 6th year Senior.

Matthew Judon
‏@man_dammn
@MeteorReed @jeffzrebiecsun I'm 23

[ellicottraven]

Man we need to hit on these pass rushers. If 2 of these guys between Correa,  Judon and Ochi strike, then this is an amazing draft! I think all 3 may actually make the team to augment Suggs, Doom and Zadarius. I'm very bullish on Judon. Something about this guy. He doesn't seem too fazed by the big time nature of the NFL and didn't care enough to change from Grand Valley State based on his interview.

[ellicottraven]

Man! Correa, Kaufusi, Judon and Ochi! We are going to generate a ton of pass rush in 2016! A healthy Suggs and Doom, an experienced Z Smith and these kids will really make it hard for offensive lines.

[JoeyFlex5]

On 5/3/2016 at 1:38 AM, RavensDieHard21 said:

I mean come on he is 280 lbs, first step isn't great, but his closing speed once he gets around that corner is impressive for his size and once he has his eyes locked in on the QB, he finished. His underhook is great and those Tackles often had no chance. Kiper said he had him pegged as a third rounder, so that is instant value and he can be groomed here. He possesses all the physical tools I feel are needed.

I'm not arguing the value and I said he had great hands, he must take his craft very seriously being from a small school and having such great hand usage. And yeah he is massive but like you and I pointed out his first step needs work. 

 

Not saying I don't like the kid, he Will probably be a very good rotational piece, I'm just saying some more burst off the line would have me a lot more excited, his first step is quite slow. But unlike a lot of pass rushers with a slow first step, I think he has room to improve it a good bit.

[GrimCoconut]

21 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'm not arguing the value and I said he had great hands, he must take his craft very seriously being from a small school and having such great hand usage. And yeah he is massive but like you and I pointed out his first step needs work. 

 

Not saying I don't like the kid, he Will probably be a very good rotational piece, I'm just saying some more burst off the line would have me a lot more excited, his first step is quite slow. But unlike a lot of pass rushers with a slow first step, I think he has room to improve it a good bit.

His first step isn't what I would call "quite slow." It may not be fast, but I think you're exaggerating here. I think he has an average first step. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Yea I remember reading a scouting report that stated "he was a man amongst boys" which takes on a whole new meaning.

 

*** Update***

He was born in 1992. He's only 23 years old. Feel much better about it now. Having a guy that'll be 30 before his rookie deal is over?? Not good. haha, didnt make sense at all.

Edited May 5, 2016 by BOLDnPurPnBlacK

[sflegend89]

This guy could be a big time sleeper. When you look at his frame and athleticism he's the real deal, he just has to mentally do some catch up with some of the bigger school guys who were exposed to higher level coaching/competition. But Judon has all the things you can't teach, that's why I really like this pick. We have one of the best DL coaches in the NFL in Clarence Brooks, if Judon has what it takes mentally we're the team to get it out of him. 

While his game exposure may be relatively light his rookie year I could see him breaking out and becoming a starter a few years down the line. We did a much better job finding high upside late than we have in recent years which I'm excited about.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

3 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

His first step isn't what I would call "quite slow." It may not be fast, but I think you're exaggerating here. I think he has an average first step. 

If 10 yard split in the 40 is any indication, he's average to slight above average at 1.6-1.65... For comparisons sake, Von Miller's was around 1.54-1.57 I believe, which is considered elite.

It's not the most accurate indicator or purely the 1st step explosion, but it's about 10 yds to the QB coming off the edge, so its at least an indicator of how quickly guys can hit home. And based on his athleticism (top 5 performer among DL at the 40, Vert, and bench press) I'd say there's definitely room to improve with NFL functional strength and explosive training which he's never been exposed to.

[usmccharles]

55 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

If 10 yard split in the 40 is any indication, he's average to slight above average at 1.6-1.65... For comparisons sake, Von Miller's was around 1.54-1.57 I believe, which is considered elite.

It's not the most accurate indicator or purely the 1st step explosion, but it's about 10 yds to the QB coming off the edge, so its at least an indicator of how quickly guys can hit home. And based on his athleticism (top 5 performer among DL at the 40, Vert, and bench press) I'd say there's definitely room to improve with NFL functional strength and explosive training which he's never been exposed to.

I really wish I could find the quote were Billick was asked about Suggs slowish 40 yard time and his response was something like: QBs aren't 40 yards away, I care about his 10. 

Edited May 5, 2016 by usmccharles

[Winchester]

20 hours ago, usmccharles said:

I really wish I could find the quote were Billick was asked about Suggs slowish 40 yard time and his response was something like: QBs aren't 40 yards away, I care about his 10.  Which I don't even know what that was for Suggs, maybe ill look it up. 

Billick is awesome. He actually said I'll worry about his 40 time when the qb begins lining up in shotgun 40 yards behind the center. Billick is a great  coach. Shame ravens could not land a qb while he  was coach. If ravens would of traded for Brees after 2004 like he wanted, the ravens could of lifted 4 championships with that defense!!

Edited May 6, 2016 by Winchester

[757RavensFan]

Judon is the first rookie to get his contract done.  

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Via Jeff Zrebiec of the Baltimore Sun, the Ravens signed fifth-rounder Matt Judon to his four-year deal, worth $2.595 million.

 

[Purple_City39]

On 5/5/2016 at 3:01 AM, Winchester said:

Billick is awesome. He actually said I'll worry about his 40 time when the qb begins lining up in shotgun 40 yards behind the center. Billick is a great  coach. Shame ravens could not land a qb while he  was coach. If ravens would of traded for Brees after 2004 like he wanted, the ravens could of lifted 4 championships with that defense!!

Not only that, it's a shame they didn't draft Rodgers in the same offseason.  No disrespect to Joe or McNair but if Brees or Rodgers is at QB in 06, 08, and 2010, I can't fathom we don't win a superbowl in at least one of those years.  And they are the two QBs with a career TD to INT ratio in the post season that's better than Joe's (they are the top 3) so it wouldn't have been a surprise to still see a 2012 win also.

But yeah, Billick was a great coach that just couldn't find a good passing game

[ravensdan]

On May 5, 2016 at 3:01 AM, Winchester said:

Billick is awesome. He actually said I'll worry about his 40 time when the qb begins lining up in shotgun 40 yards behind the center. Billick is a great  coach. Shame ravens could not land a qb while he  was coach. If ravens would of traded for Brees after 2004 like he wanted, the ravens could of lifted 4 championships with that defense!!

Billick's importance to this franchise is so underrated. This team would not have won any championships without his influence. And it's little known that he suggested Harbaugh to Ozzie. 

[RavensDieHard21]

On 5/5/2016 at 3:01 AM, Winchester said:

Billick is awesome. He actually said I'll worry about his 40 time when the qb begins lining up in shotgun 40 yards behind the center. Billick is a great  coach. Shame ravens could not land a qb while he  was coach. If ravens would of traded for Brees after 2004 like he wanted, the ravens could of lifted 4 championships with that defense!!

Brees or Rodgers in 05 would have been gold! 2006 in particular was the year we had what it took to win the trophy, but freaking Manning emerged victorious from the FG fest. McNair, god bless his soul, stunk it up. I just think back and wonder why the heck we don't have an extra Lombardi trophy or two, especially after how good our 06 and 08 defenses were

[RavensDieHard21]

But anyway, after watching Judon v. Stanley is practice, he does have a nice burst around the edge, but Stanley was able to get him to the ground often, but if he works on that balance he could be a great work in progress