Welcome to Baltimore, Alex Lewis, Willie Henry, Kenneth Dixon, Round 4

[ellicottraven]

Very excited about our 3rd day picks, every single one of them. I truly believe in a few years, we'll look back at this class and say this was the draft that evoked the least enthusiasm but turned out the most starters! I believe we've drafted some would be stars of the NFL and I'm looking forward to TC with these kids and see who's left standing with the final 53 and practice squad players. I'm excited about Tavon Young, Kenneth Dixon, Willie Henry, Alex Lewis and Chris Moore our 4th round picks! I'm also stoked to see how Judon does!

Edited May 3, 2016 by ellicottraven

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

1 hour ago, ellicottraven said:

Very excited about our 3rd day picks, every single one of them. I truly believe in a few years, we'll look back at this class and say this was the draft that evoked the least enthusiasm but turned out the most starters! I believe we've drafted some would be stars of the NFL and I'm looking forward to TC with these kids and see who's left standing with the final 53 and practice squad players. I'm excited about Tavon Young, Kenneth Dixon, Willie Henry, Alex Lewis and Chris Moore our 4th round picks! I'm also stoked to see how Judon does!

Yea I think when we look back this draft will have replenished our quality depth in the short term, and provided a slew of quality starters and a couple stars in the long term.

Plain and simple, we've upgraded our talent pool across the board, to the point where I think its going to be a struggle to get this roster down to 53 - we're going to see some quality players cut before the season begins... a lot more than usual.

Our D-line is just overflowing with young, talented players and I don't think we can keep them all. I'm afraid some fan favorites and promising guys are gonna get their walking papers (KLM most likely, Guy and Urban have some serious competition).

RB we have arguably 6 guys that can be productive in this league. Richardson could really make this difficult if somehow he flashes the potential he had coming out of Bama.

WR we haven't really added much more top end talent (Perrimans an x-factor) but we've definitely upgraded the middle-to-back end of the depth chart.

And our O-line is crowded. I prefer we keep Monroe at this point and let he and Stanley battle it out. Id imagine if healthy Monroe has a good chance to win that, and Stanley has a shot to start at LG (play the best 5 guys).... and even if Stanley beats him out, I'd keep Monroe as a backup LT so we don't have to worry about Hurst, Wesley or Wagner playing there in case of injury. Our starting oline and depth should be great this year.

I mean Monroe/Stanley-Stanley/Jensen/Urschel-Zuttah/Urschel-Yanda-Wagner/Stanley/Lewis is a very talented group and great, great depth. The fact that I have to include so many "/'s" is a testament to the talent... in that there's potentially 8 starting caliber lineman with probably 8 or 9 roster spots total. When some teams struggle to find 5 starter quality guys, having 8 is a huge luxury.

Other than RG, there's likely going to be a tight position battle at every spot on the line.

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And I think our team hasn't gotten worse in top end talent, though you can always use more. We have enough star type players to be competitive. Where we've gotten worse is in quality depth and team balance. This draft will go along way toward that, and will bring legitimate competition for snaps across the board come training camp. And, if starters go down this year we've got a lot of young talent to come in and take over.

I'm getting really excited for this season. Sorry for the long post - the excitement is spewing out of me.

[ellicottraven]

2 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Yea I think when we look back this draft will have replenished our quality depth in the short term, and provided a slew of quality starters and a couple stars in the long term.

Plain and simple, we've upgraded our talent pool across the board, to the point where I think its going to be a struggle to get this roster down to 53 - we're going to see some quality players cut before the season begins... a lot more than usual.

Our D-line is just overflowing with young, talented players and I don't think we can keep them all. I'm afraid some fan favorites and promising guys are gonna get their walking papers (KLM most likely, Guy and Urban have some serious competition).

RB we have arguably 6 guys that can be productive in this league. Richardson could really make this difficult if somehow he flashes the potential he had coming out of Bama.

WR we haven't really added much more top end talent (Perrimans an x-factor) but we've definitely upgraded the middle-to-back end of the depth chart.

And our O-line is crowded. I prefer we keep Monroe at this point and let he and Stanley battle it out. Id imagine if healthy Monroe has a good chance to win that, and Stanley has a shot to start at LG (play the best 5 guys).... and even if Stanley beats him out, I'd keep Monroe as a backup LT so we don't have to worry about Hurst, Wesley or Wagner playing there in case of injury. Our starting oline and depth should be great this year.

I mean Monroe/Stanley-Stanley/Jensen/Urschel-Zuttah/Urschel-Yanda-Wagner/Stanley/Lewis is a very talented group and great, great depth. The fact that I have to include so many "/'s" is a testament to the talent... in that there's potentially 8 starting caliber lineman with probably 8 or 9 roster spots total. When some teams struggle to find 5 starter quality guys, having 8 is a huge luxury.

Other than RG, there's likely going to be a tight position battle at every spot on the line.

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And I think our team hasn't gotten worse in top end talent, though you can always use more. We have enough star type players to be competitive. Where we've gotten worse is in quality depth and team balance. This draft will go along way toward that, and will bring legitimate competition for snaps across the board come training camp. And, if starters go down this year we've got a lot of young talent to come in and take over.

I'm getting really excited for this season. Sorry for the long post - the excitement is spewing out of me.

Just imagine our Coaches joy if Perriman really starts playing like we thought he was capable of when we drafted him? Mike Wallace, Perriman, SSR, Watson, Flacco, Forsett/Dixon/Allen along with Monroe, Stanley, Zuttah, Yanda and Wagner on offense! Joe suddenly has plenty of time to find his targets, the RBs have holes they can hit because with Perriman and Wallace both on the field they can never afford to stack the box, and Joe will carve defenses all day every day with time! Nearly flawless offense. And the multiple fronts we could use with the quality of WRs and TEs on board is unreal too.

Now to the defense: Williams, Jernigan/Willie Henry/Carl Davis, Kaufusi/Urban, Suggs/Zadarius, Doom/Correa, Mosley, Weddle, Webb, Young, Jimmy and Wright will be hard to run, pass or score against. They are going to rush the passer with effectiveness and that in turn will help the secondary. With Weddle and Webby manning the safety positions, we are covered against the run as well as the pass! This year is going to be something to watch as long as we put it all together in terms of game planning and team chemistry! 

Finally cannot wait!

[ellicottraven]

The more I research and look at tape of Wille Henry, i truly believe he'll excel with the Ravens. Unbelievable potential and measurables and is not even 21! Mark my words, he'll become as or more effective as Jernigan in a year or so. Tremendous potential and so exciting. Way better than the Steelers Hargrave (pick 89) or Andrew Billings (pick 122) for the Bengals. I am convinced of it.

[arnie_uk]

1 hour ago, ellicottraven said:

The more I research and look at tape of Wille Henry, i truly believe he'll excel with the Ravens. Unbelievable potential and measurables and is not even 21! Mark my words, he'll become as or more effective as Jernigan in a year or so. Tremendous potential and so exciting. Way better than the Steelers Hargrave (pick 89) or Andrew Billings (pick 122) for the Bengals. I am convinced of it.

He was one of my favourite picks, him and Dixon! 

[ellicottraven]

Just now, arnie_uk said:

He was one of my favourite picks, him and Dixon! 

Mine after I did some research on him, Must admit I had not heard much about him but man, this kid flat out balls! Have you seen his measurables, 28 reps, faster 3 cone drill time and 20 yd shuttle time than both Billings and Hargrave the Steelers pick. Definitely a diamond in the rough.

[Winchester]

On 5/6/2016 at 1:11 PM, ellicottraven said:

Mine after I did some research on him, Must admit I had not heard much about him but man, this kid flat out balls! Have you seen his measurables, 28 reps, faster 3 cone drill time and 20 yd shuttle time than both Billings and Hargrave the Steelers pick. Definitely a diamond in the rough.

 

On 5/6/2016 at 11:27 AM, ellicottraven said:

The more I research and look at tape of Wille Henry, i truly believe he'll excel with the Ravens. Unbelievable potential and measurables and is not even 21! Mark my words, he'll become as or more effective as Jernigan in a year or so. Tremendous potential and so exciting. Way better than the Steelers Hargrave (pick 89) or Andrew Billings (pick 122) for the Bengals. I am convinced of it.

A piece of info on Henry 8th. He was dealing with a couple injuries at the combine but kept it under wrap. He is very well capable of a 4.8 40 and 30+ reps. I know Florida tried to recruit him and thought of him as one of the most underrated recruits in the country. I was kind of busy to look for underrated 5 star talents this draft. But in particular scenarios (college,scheme,combine) if things lined up he could be a top15 pick. Somebody at Florida said he could play defensive end or rush olb he is so flexible and explosive. Anyways in my opinion the most underrated players in the draft are Malcolm Mitchell,Hassan Ridgeway,Willie Henry,Chris Moore,Demarcus Robinson,Reshard Robinson,Jatavis Brown. I will bet with odds Henry is going to be better than Buckner!! He is the most ready qb stalker the ravens drafted. I mean Kufusi has massive potential but he needs to add muscle and lose the bad weight to reach his peak. But Henry comes batteries included and charged up. Next year he could of been a top15 pick. Overall I like the ravens draft. I just did not like the Correa pick. He could excel as a 4-3 olb or 3-4 ilb. I just do not like him as a defensive end or 3-4 olb. But some of the later picks were great players. Ron Stanley has more upside but Tunsil is better right now. So that is a tough pick. Because although Ron Stanley has more upside and if he packs on 12 lbs of muscle to his upper bod there will be no debate he is the better player. He has to actually commit to the weights and nutrition and add the muscle to his upper bod. I really like Chris moore but like Malcolm Mitchell a little better but nonetheless Chris moore  is very underrated and actually was getting late recognition as more skilled than many receivers being touted as round2 talents.

[Winchester]

On 5/6/2016 at 11:27 AM, ellicottraven said:

The more I research and look at tape of Wille Henry, i truly believe he'll excel with the Ravens. Unbelievable potential and measurables and is not even 21! Mark my words, he'll become as or more effective as Jernigan in a year or so. Tremendous potential and so exciting. Way better than the Steelers Hargrave (pick 89) or Andrew Billings (pick 122) for the Bengals. I am convinced of it.

Henry has far more raw skill than Billings. As far as raw skill, only dudes with superior raw explosive skill is maybe Rankins Ridgeway and a dude the ravens probably would not consider if ravens navigated away from his teammate. And Henry is stronger than Rankins and as explosive and athletic. Ridgeway could be a touch stronger, explosive but he has work ethic issues and Henry is 20 yrs old and getting stronger. Nkemdiche and Henry compare very similar. But Henry is younger with better work ethic, intelligence, character. He could very well be the best tackle in a loaded talent pool and one of the best penetrators in the league.  He is as explosive as the elite tackles to enter the  league recently. Very similar to players like Cox of the eagles.He and Jernigan will make an awesome tandem with brandons surge in the trenches. 

[ALPHA]

Whats Alex Lewis' upside? swing reserve tackle or future starter?

[JoeyFlex5]

16 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

Whats Alex Lewis' upside? swing reserve tackle or future starter?

I think he's a swing guy. He's got pretty quick feet and good size and strength. He could be a moving-on plan for Wagner who is up for contract soon. He's a low key pick that I'm pretty excited about.

[ellicottraven]

3 hours ago, Winchester said:

 

A piece of info on Henry 8th. He was dealing with a couple injuries at the combine but kept it under wrap. He is very well capable of a 4.8 40 and 30+ reps. I know Florida tried to recruit him and thought of him as one of the most underrated recruits in the country. I was kind of busy to look for underrated 5 star talents this draft. But in particular scenarios (college,scheme,combine) if things lined up he could be a top15 pick. Somebody at Florida said he could play defensive end or rush olb he is so flexible and explosive. Anyways in my opinion the most underrated players in the draft are Malcolm Mitchell,Hassan Ridgeway,Willie Henry,Chris Moore,Demarcus Robinson,Reshard Robinson,Jatavis Brown. I will bet with odds Henry is going to be better than Buckner!! He is the most ready qb stalker the ravens drafted. I mean Kufusi has massive potential but he needs to add muscle and lose the bad weight to reach his peak. But Henry comes batteries included and charged up. Next year he could of been a top15 pick. Overall I like the ravens draft. I just did not like the Correa pick. He could excel as a 4-3 olb or 3-4 ilb. I just do not like him as a defensive end or 3-4 olb. But some of the later picks were great players. Ron Stanley has more upside but Tunsil is better right now. So that is a tough pick. Because although Ron Stanley has more upside and if he packs on 12 lbs of muscle to his upper bod there will be no debate he is the better player. He has to actually commit to the weights and nutrition and add the muscle to his upper bod. I really like Chris moore but like Malcolm Mitchell a little better but nonetheless Chris moore  is very underrated and actually was getting late recognition as more skilled than many receivers being touted as round2 talents.

I just did not like the Correa pick. He could excel as a 4-3 olb or 3-4 ilb. I just do not like him as a defensive end or 3-4 olb. 

I personally believe they'll find out during TC what he's good at and will ease him into the role he fits best. Keep in mind, he may very well be slotted as the ILB alongside Mosley but used to blitz and rush the passer in certain packages as well. So, I think he'll see the field quite a bit this season. Also, we have Zadarius, Matt Judon and Victor Ochi who could potentially spell Sizzle and Doom too and they can provide a good pass rush when needed. The thing I hope to have happen this year, is Zadarius taking on Upshaw's role of taking Doom's position on running downs and being able to set the edge effectively. If he can do that, I think we'll be set without having to use Correa as a 3-4 OLB.

[ellicottraven]

6 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I think he's a swing guy. He's got pretty quick feet and good size and strength. He could be a moving-on plan for Wagner who is up for contract soon. He's a low key pick that I'm pretty excited about.

I think he can be a potential replacement at RT since Wagner is in his last contract year. Who knows which team will offer him big money to lure Wagner away? Alex could be a plug in RT right now with his measurables and college experience playing both RT and LT. Right now, this year I think he'll play the role of swing tackle if Monroe stays or if Monroe is cut post June 1st, then Stanley would move to LT and Alex Lewis will compete with Jensen for the LG slot...

[pmr468]

Alex Lewis' mom posted in the "Arizona Ravens Fans" facebook page I'm in. Pretty cool!

[GrimCoconut]

1 hour ago, Winchester said:

Henry has far more raw skill than Billings. As far as raw skill, only dudes with superior raw explosive skill is maybe Rankins Ridgeway and a dude the ravens probably would not consider if ravens navigated away from his teammate. And Henry is stronger than Rankins and as explosive and athletic. Ridgeway could be a touch stronger, explosive but he has work ethic issues and Henry is 20 yrs old and getting stronger. Nkemdiche and Henry compare very similar. But Henry is younger with better work ethic, intelligence, character. He could very well be the best tackle in a loaded talent pool and one of the best penetrators in the league.  He is as explosive as the elite tackles to enter the  league recently. Very similar to players like Cox of the eagles.He and Jernigan will make an awesome tandem with brandons surge in the trenches. 

I recall someone, I think Mayock, saying that he could play OLB. I have to admit I was a bit surprised there. Not sure that's what we intended. Interesting that you say the same though. I really liked the Henry pick. It was one of my favorites. 

[rmw10]

1 hour ago, ALPHA said:

Whats Alex Lewis' upside? swing reserve tackle or future starter?

Swing T that can also play inside at G, but I wouldn't overlook him as a future starter.  Think he's a LT only in a pinch, but a potential starter everywhere else except C.

[Winchester]

1 hour ago, GrimCoconut said:

I recall someone, I think Mayock, saying that he could play OLB. I have to admit I was a bit surprised there. Not sure that's what we intended. Interesting that you say the same though. I really liked the Henry pick. It was one of my favorites. 

Yep Florida really wanted him. It was believed he was explosive enough to play rush olb but his power, surge and stout anchor screams penetrating defensive tackle. At only 20 he has a lot to learn about his feet and hand use. But the raw power and explosion is there as he consistently rocked blockers back and discarded blockers and chased down athletic qbs and running backs where many defensive tackles job would be to contain. In games and practice he is as fast as the linebackers but in a 305lb frame. He lined up at defensive end on occasion at defensive end and got pressure through explosion and bending the edge as often as with a bullrush. At only 20 yrs old he will mature and get stronger without losing any athleticism. He has been compared to Jerome Brown and Aaron Donald  but is just learning how to really use weights and how to play. He wins with natural leverage on sheer instincts. Once he learns to use his leverage and flexibility/explosion  He is gonna be tough to block. Although not as touted by media like the big name tackles. With the descriptions going around about him in locker rooms and coaching offices, many are shocked he was there in round4. Because of his rush skills many were thinking he could have been drafted before Ashawn Robinson and some of the stout touted run stuffers because of his skills to get pressure on the qb and his reputation around college circles. Although an explosive slippery penetrating tackle he has occupied multiple gaps/blockers surprisingly well for a 20 yr old penetrator. He should get a lot of pressure in qbs faces. If Suggs and Dumervil have trouble getting to the qb at their age, those guys will be earning their paychecks just by getting Henry coached up and Kufusi stronger and in shape.  As Suggs has run through seasons out of shape and has played through seasons where it significantly disrupted his speed and production. And can inform Kufusi on the significance to getting in shape and optimizing his strength/speed. While i do not like Correa taking on tackles he could be a fast 3 Down lb in my opinion that stresses offenses as an advanced Blitzer from ilb or olb in a 4-3

[Winchester]

3 hours ago, ALPHA said:

Whats Alex Lewis' upside? swing reserve tackle or future starter?

I dunno I can not find any real info on upside. He seems limited but versatile. He seems to understand angles well. If he gets stronger he could probably be a good right tackle or guard that seals his side effectively although unspectacular. Kind of a surprise pick. Although any steady blocker that leverages angles and seals the play on a consistent basis if he gets stronger could be very effective.  However there was more upside available at the pick. In really liked Coleman round3 as a bpa kind of pick. He is right there with Tunsil and Ron Stanley and it is terrible a division rival  got him!! He is going to make Joe Thomas expendable eventually.  Very similar skills to Tunsil/Stanley

Edited May 8, 2016 by Winchester

[Ravensfan23]

I think the Ravens have finally hit on a 4th round RB in Dixon. This guy looks to be the total package and I see him and Richardson as the top 2 backs based on what Trestman wants to do with this offense. Dixon is a complete back and Trestman will use him plenty in the pass game and because he a good pass protector he'll stay on the field a lot. I think Forsett is cut or maybe traded.

Henry will be a really strong rotational piece imo. I love the Dline and how they'll be able to be used. Henry and Timmy as penetrating DTs on 3rd downs will really make the speed rushers from the outside get home more often. The front 7 is shaping up to be a special group and if all these young guys can play to potential, the secondary won't be much of an issues because QBs won't have much time to do anything. 

[Cillmatic]

1 hour ago, Ravensfan23 said:

I think the Ravens have finally hit on a 4th round RB in Dixon. This guy looks to be the total package and I see him and Richardson as the top 2 backs based on what Trestman wants to do with this offense. Dixon is a complete back and Trestman will use him plenty in the pass game and because he a good pass protector he'll stay on the field a lot. I think Forsett is cut or maybe traded.

...it's Mother's Day, not April Fools.

[rmw10]

1 hour ago, Ravensfan23 said:

I think the Ravens have finally hit on a 4th round RB in Dixon. This guy looks to be the total package and I see him and Richardson as the top 2 backs based on what Trestman wants to do with this offense. Dixon is a complete back and Trestman will use him plenty in the pass game and because he a good pass protector he'll stay on the field a lot. I think Forsett is cut or maybe traded.

Henry will be a really strong rotational piece imo. I love the Dline and how they'll be able to be used. Henry and Timmy as penetrating DTs on 3rd downs will really make the speed rushers from the outside get home more often. The front 7 is shaping up to be a special group and if all these young guys can play to potential, the secondary won't be much of an issues because QBs won't have much time to do anything. 

I think Forsett has 1 more year to mentor these guys. He's a valued leader. I believe we'll find a way to keep 4 RBs this year somehow. 

[Davesta]

I just don't see us keeping 4 rbs unless one can help in the return game. Forsett gets 1 more year, I think Buck and Dixon are safe. But I'm really rooting for west, then there's Trent who was a #3 overall selection. Gon be a tough battle during camp for sure! 

[Winchester]

3 hours ago, Ravensfan23 said:

I think the Ravens have finally hit on a 4th round RB in Dixon. This guy looks to be the total package and I see him and Richardson as the top 2 backs based on what Trestman wants to do with this offense. Dixon is a complete back and Trestman will use him plenty in the pass game and because he a good pass protector he'll stay on the field a lot. I think Forsett is cut or maybe traded.

Henry will be a really strong rotational piece imo. I love the Dline and how they'll be able to be used. Henry and Timmy as penetrating DTs on 3rd downs will really make the speed rushers from the outside get home more often. The front 7 is shaping up to be a special group and if all these young guys can play to potential, the secondary won't be much of an issues because QBs won't have much time to do anything. 

Will Henry is the biggest steal at defensive tackle since Atkins. When is the last time a slippery penetrator could 2 gap?? And he is yet to grow in his frame. He looks like a teenager yet.lol He has explosive burst and bend and elite power and leverage for bullrush. He has all pro potential. He was nursing a couple nagging injuries at the combine. Many believed he would run a 4.8 cuz the way he ran like a linebacker chasing down running backs and athletic qbs. He has similar power and more rush skill than nearly all tackles drafted early rounds

[JoeyFlex5]

3 hours ago, Cillmatic said:

...it's Mother's Day, not April Fools.

You are literally the only person who doesn't think dixon is legit. He was the 2nd rb on many analysts boards and he was practically a lock for the 2nd round and somehow we got him in the 4th and you think he's just a camp body or something? C'mon man.

[Winchester]

Forsett will show Dixon and Buck Allen how to max his skills, and train to get stronger and faster for the nfl game. 10 lbs of muscle and playing a little leaner and Dixon will be a stallion. A leaner stronger faster 216-219 is ideal for him as for an all around runner/receiver Broncos got a pretty cool steal as well in round4

Edited May 8, 2016 by Winchester

[Ravensfan23]

3 hours ago, rmw10 said:

I think Forsett has 1 more year to mentor these guys. He's a valued leader. I believe we'll find a way to keep 4 RBs this year somehow. 

His mentoring the young guys is the only way I can see him sticking around honestly. He's 30+, coming off of injury and Trestman go so much more out of the RBs once Forsett got injured. The Ravens have far too many talented young RBs and I feel of the Ravens were willing to turn the TE group over to those young guys last year, they'll be willing to do the same with the RBs this year. 

[RaineV1]

10 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

His mentoring the young guys is the only way I can see him sticking around honestly. He's 30+, coming off of injury and Trestman go so much more out of the RBs once Forsett got injured. The Ravens have far too many talented young RBs and I feel of the Ravens were willing to turn the TE group over to those young guys last year, they'll be willing to do the same with the RBs this year. 

Forsett average over 4 yards a carry and had about 800 total yards after 10 games. Trestman got plenty out of Forsett.

[usmccharles]

3 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

Forsett average over 4 yards a carry and had about 800 total yards after 10 games. Trestman got plenty out of Forsett.

Exactly.   Also, it's not like his injury is something that changes how he runs,  it was a broken arm.   Forsett was on pace for over 1k yards... I think only 8 backs broke that mark.  

[Ravensfan23]

2 hours ago, Winchester said:

Will Henry is the biggest steal at defensive tackle since Atkins. When is the last time a slippery penetrator could 2 gap?? And he is yet to grow in his frame. He looks like a teenager yet.lol He has explosive burst and bend and elite power and leverage for bullrush. He has all pro potential. He was nursing a couple nagging injuries at the combine. Many believed he would run a 4.8 cuz the way he ran like a linebacker chasing down running backs and athletic qbs. He has similar power and more rush skill than nearly all tackles drafted early rounds

I also wonder if adding Henry forces Timmy to raise his game to that pro bowl level. 

1 hour ago, Winchester said:

Forsett will show Dixon and Buck Allen how to max his skills, and train to get stronger and faster for the nfl game. 10 lbs of muscle and playing a little leaner and Dixon will be a stallion. A leaner stronger faster 216-219 is ideal for him as for an all around runner/receiver Broncos got a pretty cool steal as well in round4

I think that may be a luxury the Ravens can't afford. I think Forsett is clearly one of the top backs on this team no doubt. However if these young guys actually step up to the plate and perform up to Trestman's standards, what does keeping Forsett become worth? I would say it's clear Forsett isn't apart of the long term plans and if West, T. Rich or LT play just good as him early, why cut a potential long term piece of the puzzle? I guest it'll depend on if those young guys perform or not because I think Forsett will be his usual steady self

[rmw10]

6 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

I also wonder if adding Henry forces Timmy to raise his game to that pro bowl level. 

I think that may be a luxury the Ravens can't afford. I think Forsett is clearly one of the top backs on this team no doubt. However if these young guys actually step up to the plate and perform up to Trestman's standards, what does keeping Forsett become worth? I would say it's clear Forsett isn't apart of the long term plans and if West, T. Rich or LT play just good as him early, why cut a potential long term piece of the puzzle? I guest it'll depend on if those young guys perform or not because I think Forsett will be his usual steady self

That's why I think he'll stick around.  Buck was up and down last year, as was West.  Richardson is obviously a question mark, and Taliaferro could be hurt once again.  I don't think Forsett is a lock or anything, but there are some question marks with everyone behind him right now.  Unless one of the young guys just steps up and runs loose in preseason, I think Forsett is on the safer side.  I'm of the belief that we'll find a way to keep 4 guys on this roster.

[Ravensfan23]

19 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

Forsett average over 4 yards a carry and had about 800 total yards after 10 games. Trestman got plenty out of Forsett.

Never said he didn't. However once Forsett was injured Trestman used the RB position more like he has in the past. Not saying Forsett didn't preform well, but Buck Allen had 630+ total yards in only 6 1/2 so what would his 10 game total look like? 

In the passing game Allen nearly double Forsett's numbers to the tone of 295yds to 153yds. Forsett had 9 games, I just used the 6 1/2 games Allen was featured the most. 

So I'm not saying Forsett sucked, but from what I saw, Trestman got more creative using the RBs, thus getting more out of the position once Buck took over.