I really like the Jaguars draft through 3 rounds

[Mad Puppy]

The Jags have drafted how I had hoped the Ravens would. PLAYMAKERS each and every one.

A little jealous right now. Having picked Jalen Ramsey, and Myles Jack, following that they grab Yannick Ngakoue in the 3rd! Wow some risk but I totally respect the choices. Everyone here really wanted Yannick as a pass rusher too. Actually everyone of those picks was wanted universally here.

 

Edited April 30, 2016 by Mad Puppy

[Jacquouille]

Yeah they're scary, and if Jack pans out we'll be looking ridiculous

Edited April 30, 2016 by Jacquouille

[Italian Raven]

I really like Houston and Washington draft so far.

[Somerset Ravens]

I like Ramsey but the other two I am not so high on. The Jack pick comes down to how you view his medical situation. He comes with a high risk factor. Ngakoue is a project pick, he has some pash rush skills but little else. Jacksonville was willing to roll the dice.

[RavensDieHard21]

At face value there picks are awesome and could be franchise changers, but we need to see how their healthy is and how they are used first.

[CaliRavenFan]

I read right after he was drafted that the doctor released new information saying he wouldn't need Knee Surgery and that he will be just fine. It was a huge mistake passing up on him, even with getting the extra 2 players we got.

Its also interesting to hear that the Cowboys doctor was the one that did Jaylen Smith's surgery and it is actually a lot better than they told everyone. I wonder how many millions Jerry paid for that information to stay quiet.

[CalvinSmoke]

I really like what the Bengals have done too 

[GrimCoconut]

17 minutes ago, CaliRavenFan said:

I read right after he was drafted that the doctor released new information saying he wouldn't need Knee Surgery and that he will be just fine. It was a huge mistake passing up on him, even with getting the extra 2 players we got.

Its also interesting to hear that the Cowboys doctor was the one that did Jaylen Smith's surgery and it is actually a lot better than they told everyone. I wonder how many millions Jerry paid for that information to stay quiet.

Where did you read this? I would imagine the Cowboys would be seriously flagged for something like that. 

[ALPHA]

Jags draft is pretty much how I hoped ours would look, I guess we'll know in a year or three.

[Crabcakes&Football]

We could have had the same draft! If we traded the pick we landed new ST ace Bronson Kaufusi at, the Cowboys would have made the trade and we would have Ramsey. Jack was right there in our laps, instead we just had to have more projects, depth, ST stalwarts and practice squad competition from the 4th round. Ramsey and freakin' Jack. The 2 odds on favorites for DROY are right there on the Jaguars roster. Nobody is gonna pass the ball on the Jags this year.

 

"Oh but Myles Jack's knee may shorten his career." Anyone recall the last 2nd rounder we retained in FA? Jack is green to go this season. And his knee may just hold up long term after all. Ed and Ray in the same draft. Jealous. I don't think anyone would need to defend our draft if it went like this.

Edited April 30, 2016 by Crabcakes&Football

[Cville-Raven]

3 minutes ago, Crabcakes&Football said:

We could have had the same draft! If we traded the pick we landed new ST ace Bronson Kaufusi at, the Cowboys would have made the trade and we would have Ramsey. Jack was right there in our laps, instead we just had to have more projects, depth, ST stalwarts and practice squad competition from the 4th round. Ramsey and freakin' Jack. The 2 odds on favorites for DROY are right there on the Jaguars roster. Nobody is gonna pass the ball on the Jags this year.

 

"Oh but Myles Jack's knee may shorten his career." Anyone recall the last 2nd rounder we retained in FA? Jack is green to go this season. And his knee may just hold up long term after all. Ed and Ray in the same draft. Jealous. I don't think anyone would need to defend our draft if it went like this.

chill, both could be total busts for all we know

Edited April 30, 2016 by Cville-Raven

[CaliRavenFan]

1 hour ago, GrimCoconut said:

Where did you read this? I would imagine the Cowboys would be seriously flagged for something like that. 

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2016/04/29/cowboys-jaylon-smith-can-play-2016-absolutely-never-doubt-god

Doesnt exactly come out and say it but when he has been running for 3 1/2 weeks, squatting 400lbs and leg pressing 600lbs I see absolutely nothing wrong with his knee.. I just find it a HUGE coincidence that the team that did the surgery on him happens to also be the team that drafted him. Remember we are talking about the player that could of went #1 overall in the draft if they knew his knee would be fine.

[Dubs]

Outside of the reach/reaction on Eli Apple I really like the Giants draft. I actually think we have one of the better drafts given the mid round talent that we accumulated in a draft where mid round value was great. Also like the Vikings draft

[PolishRifle]

11 hours ago, Mad Puppy said:

The Jags have drafted how I had hoped the Ravens would. PLAYMAKERS each and every one.

A little jealous right now. Having picked Jalen Ramsey, and Myles Jack, following that they grab Yannick Ngakoue in the 3rd! Wow some risk but I totally respect the choices. Everyone here really wanted Yannick as a pass rusher too. Actually everyone of those picks was wanted universally here.

 

What you feel is envy. Just sayin'.

[usmccharles]

Jack and Ngakoue were two of four guys i really wanted.  They got both, and Ramsey.   Also get Fowler back this year, added Jackson.  I think they win the division next year...just sayin

[GrimCoconut]

4 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Jack and Ngakoue were two of four guys i really wanted.  They got both, and Ramsey.   Also get Fowler back this year, added Jackson.  I think they win the division next year...just sayin

Jacksonville did ignore their OL, and that's a serious issue. 

[usmccharles]

3 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Jacksonville did ignore their OL, and that's a serious issue. 

that did surprise me

[Underdogsontop!]

12 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

Where did you read this? I would imagine the Cowboys would be seriously flagged for something like that. 

I heard that from a cowboys fan. Not sure where he heard that 

[JoeyFlex5]

ramsey is an exciting player, but he has a long way to go to make the jump, for starters, he has no real position at this point, and he faces hurdles for whatever position he tries to learn, so if hes gonna be used in a multiple role then he is gonna have a steeper learning curve than most rookies. if he is a corner, he has to turn his head better, he has to stop biting double moves, and he has to learn to consistently cover downfield because as of now he presses at an elite level but he plays catchup way too often. if he plays safety then he has to begin making plays in coverage, he makes a lot of big hits and has a nice highlight reel, but a 5th overall safety better get his hands on the ball, which he simply hasnt done over his career, i love ramsey and wanted him here, but lets not continue to overhype the guy like we have been doing since the combine.. 

 

myles jack, a generational talent, no doubt, if he doesnt deal with knee problems and plays a full career then he is probably a top 3 defender in the league over that time span. but thats a big if. his knee is legitimately a problem, he said himself that he will need surrgery in the future, and even admitted himself that 3 years in the league would be a good thing, that is nothing to just ignore. i am personally glad we bypassed jack, i didnt want us to spend that pick on him at the time, and was relieved when jax traded up. we have had injuries destroy our potential as a team for way too long now, we cant put high investment on players who are GUARANTEED to have injury problems. if jacks knee was 100% then he deserves a top 5 pick without question, but as bad as his future looks, he shouldnt get consideration from the ravens specifically until 3rd round. 

 

yannick ngakoue is a local and a fan favorite here, but if you watch the film you see a kid who seriously has a lot of work to do. he is just flat out bad on a majority of snaps, i mean god awful, and then every now and then, a few times a week, he makes a hell of a speed rush and gets to the qb. but on those ugly snaps, its really ugly, have you seen him try to defend a screen? its not impressive, to put it mildly. his decision making leaves you scratching your head at times, you wonder why the hell he thought it would be a good idea to take a certain path to the ball or why he engaged in certain situations and bla bla etc. and when it all adds up you start to wonder if he really has it between the ears to be a legit NFL player. i personally wouldnt have touched him until the 4th. 

 

the jags had a very exciting draft, that is for sure, they got great scheme fits, all of their picks in terms of physical ability are tailor made for gus bradleys defense, and they drafted flashy players who bring supreme athleticism all over the field and have potential to post big flashy numbers in the modern day NFL. however, flashy isnt always best. ramsey has a steep learning curve ahead of him, jack is unlikely to play a full career, and ngakoue could easily fade into obscurity if he doesnt make ridiculous amounts of progress mentally and i personally think it was a big reach. the jags draft class could be one that is looked back on as one of the great classes, but also has real potential to make people see how important it can be to make the boring and safe picks.

 

 

[Robbyrobbass]

They didn't draft a single player I wanted except maybe dixon but we are so deep @ Rb  there was a very slim chance they would take him from my standpoint he might be the best pick  out of the 11 guys they took SMH

[edthehead]

15 hours ago, CaliRavenFan said:

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2016/04/29/cowboys-jaylon-smith-can-play-2016-absolutely-never-doubt-god

Doesnt exactly come out and say it but when he has been running for 3 1/2 weeks, squatting 400lbs and leg pressing 600lbs I see absolutely nothing wrong with his knee.. I just find it a HUGE coincidence that the team that did the surgery on him happens to also be the team that drafted him. Remember we are talking about the player that could of went #1 overall in the draft if they knew his knee would be fine.

this is jerry's world

my buddy in dallas told me right after they draft him that 

dallas cowboys dr did the surgery 

kinda crudely done

but all is fair in the

realm of gladiator tactics  

[trevorsteadman]

I still really enjoy our draft to be honest. We got amazing talent at the positions we needed. Suggs, Dumervil, Correa, and Ochi will wreck havoc on the outside and Kaufusi playing DE sounds great. Add in we got an amazing LT in the first round that moves quick like a basketball player. Flacco got some added talent at wide receiver to see what happens. If we keep him upright I think we have enough talent to be a top 10 offense next season (we were ranked 14th in offense last season so I don't see why not) and I think with the signing of Weddle and all these young pass rushers and corners we can propel our selves higher than our 8th ranked defense last year. Now we just need to fix our redzone struggles on both sides of the ball and we can be a huge threat in the AFC.

[flynismo]

It is SO damn amusing that our own fans praise JAX for taking a chance on Yannick Ngakoue, but spew hate to our own FO for taking Correa over Spence.

[beanfigger]

20 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

Where did you read this? I would imagine the Cowboys would be seriously flagged for something like that. 

It would stand to reason they had the best information regarding this considering it was their doctor that performed the surgery.

[flynismo]

19 hours ago, Crabcakes&Football said:

We could have had the same draft! If we traded the pick we landed new ST ace Bronson Kaufusi at, the Cowboys would have made the trade and we would have Ramsey. Jack was right there in our laps, instead we just had to have more projects, depth, ST stalwarts and practice squad competition from the 4th round. Ramsey and freakin' Jack. The 2 odds on favorites for DROY are right there on the Jaguars roster. Nobody is gonna pass the ball on the Jags this year.

 

"Oh but Myles Jack's knee may shorten his career." Anyone recall the last 2nd rounder we retained in FA? Jack is green to go this season. And his knee may just hold up long term after all. Ed and Ray in the same draft. Jealous. I don't think anyone would need to defend our draft if it went like this.

If you need to defend our draft to anyone, it's because they're casual fans who don't know any better. Who cares what they think lol

[52520Andrew]

2 hours ago, flynismo said:

It is SO damn amusing that our own fans praise JAX for taking a chance on Yannick Ngakoue, but spew hate to our own FO for taking Correa over Spence.

Some people may like those guys better than Correa(personally haven't watched Correa and thought both Yannick and Spence were overhyped on here but a lot of people really liked those guys pre-draft). Any particular reason it is amusing?

[Tru11]

2 hours ago, flynismo said:

It is SO damn amusing that our own fans praise JAX for taking a chance on Yannick Ngakoue, but spew hate to our own FO for taking Correa over Spence.

well they took ngakoue in round 3 and we took correa in round 2.

doubt anyone would complain if we took correa in round 3 although i doubt he would make it that far.

id rather take correa over spence as well though but not over jack.

[KDUBB44]

I think people often forget that a player's success has something to do with being in the right organization that puts a player in the correct position to succeed. When Ramsey was drafted, he said to Deion that he viewed himself as a corner. I think he's better at S but it'll all depend on the jags. People are big fans for the Jack pick but why was he skipped by all other 31 teams? Sure he was a risky pick but we'll never know if he'll be the same dynamic player at UCLA after the knee injury and be another lattimore.

[Maryland]

9 hours ago, KDUBB44 said:

I think people often forget that a player's success has something to do with being in the right organization that puts a player in the correct position to succeed. When Ramsey was drafted, he said to Deion that he viewed himself as a corner. I think he's better at S but it'll all depend on the jags. People are big fans for the Jack pick but why was he skipped by all other 31 teams? Sure he was a risky pick but we'll never know if he'll be the same dynamic player at UCLA after the knee injury and be another lattimore.

If Ramsey sees himself as a corner, he would succeed much better in that role in the Jags defense than Pees' defense. 

[KDUBB44]

17 hours ago, Maryland said:

If Ramsey sees himself as a corner, he would succeed much better in that role in the Jags defense than Pees' defense. 

I think his best fit is at S, which was his best year at FSU.