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Reading some of these comments about "Oz should go" makes me laugh and puke at the same time........

I find it absolutely amusing how hard some posters take it when the Ravens don't take their guy...you know, the guy they heard about by looking at a mock draft or reading a draft profile...maybe watching 5 minutes of highlights on you tube in their spare time.

The sooner people realize that the Ravens are most likely not going to draft their guy the more they'd be able to enjoy the draft and new prospects we get.

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As for today:

#1: Connor Cook? With this many picks still on our hands, it would make a ton of sense IMHO.

#2: How many of our 8 remaining picks will actually be converted to players for this season? I have a strong feeling that Ozzie accumulated the extra pőicks to convert some of those to 2017 picks. We will have, by all probability, no more than 1 comp picks next year, so any plus picks will be more than welcome.

#3: I don't see it as a huge problem that we haven't spent a day 1-2 pick on a cornerback. Yep, it would have been good to have one - but then again, the two goys we have are plaing positions where we can do with more bodies, too. And call me crazy, but I don't think corner is a seriously lacking position for us (assuming no injuries, of course). Jimmy, Shereece Wright, Will Davis - and, with Weddle in the fold, even Webb coan move back to CB if he's needed there... plus, a lot of free agency is still ahead of us, I'm quite sure good CB's will become available during the summer, and then when the chop blocks come into play in August.

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  2 hours ago, The Beak said:

Reading some of these comments about "Oz should go" makes me laugh and puke at the same time........

I find it absolutely amusing how hard some posters take it when the Ravens don't take their guy...you know, the guy they heard about by looking at a mock draft or reading a draft profile...maybe watching 5 minutes of highlights on you tube in their spare time.

The sooner people realize that the Ravens are most likely not going to draft their guy the more they'd be able to enjoy the draft and new prospects we get.

Gotta love when "In Ozzie We Trust" really means "In Ozzie We Trust... until he makes a move I don't understand, at which point he becomes a clueless clown" :D

And this happens every single draft and free agency period...

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5 hours ago, Crusader said:

Tomorrow should be fun. Ravens are listed for 5 picks of 5th round players. I wonder what the odds are on 5th rounders making it in the nfl?

They have 1 5th pick, and 4 4th rounders, and plenty of starters are 4th round picks.

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I think it's also important to remember that the pass rushers works in tandem with the secondary, so improvements in either group also upgrades our overall pass defense.

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Oz, Eric, and Scouts need to get cannned. Every damn year, Oz forgets to draft a cornerback in the first 3 rounds. Our DBs suck. While the Redskins get better with studs like Josh Norman, we're stuck with no name corners on our team- why the heck is Webb still on our team at the amount he costs? And Jimmy Smith had surgery yesterday. What's the point of having 50 4th round picks if we can't pick a stud in that round? Going back two spots in the second round infuriated me- for what? to get more draft picks? Who cares about having more draft picks when you can't pick a good player? Out of this draft and at our draft position, we should've had at least one stud, but we end up with the second best tackle in the first round? smh.. In Oz, I don't trust... Oz has drafted terrible in the last five years, and he's done it again in year 6. This is why we're in a whole.

I'm surprised that Oz didn't draft another tight end, another safety, and another player from alabama- usually, he does every draft- we draft a million TE and Safeties and we never get this position right- that's why we have to draft one every year. I hope Bisciotti changes things up. What scares me a lot, and maybe this is Oz's way of deflecting blame, but in all his pressers, media statements, he's always like Eric and I this... Eric and I that... this shows me that both of these men need to go soon if this draft doesn't pan out. Oz even said that the last five drafts haven't been up to his standards- and other media sources have written about the same thing- I'm just frustrated we didn't pick a stud in the second rd and we moved back TWICE to supposedly acquire more picks and by moving back, i know we lost one of the players we had higher on the draft board- Oz and co are idiots. Let Bisciotti do the next draft- he knows we need corners and playmakers- I see solid players but i dont see studs and playmakers...

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Every year....it really gets old to listen to the rants.....most particularly, when the poster makes no sense at all......"Oz, Eric and scouts need to get canned"......really???

Come back to reality.....we have one of the best FO's in pro football.....maybe if your unhappy with how they do things, you should apply for the job....

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Add another OLineman, another OLBer, an ILBer, a CB, a WR and repeat ... holes are starting to be filled. Only time will tell how the draft went, but hope springs eternal.

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Oz, Eric, and Scouts need to get cannned. Every damn year, Oz forgets to draft a cornerback in the first 3 rounds. Our DBs suck. While the Redskins get better with studs like Josh Norman, we're stuck with no name corners on our team- why the heck is Webb still on our team at the amount he costs? And Jimmy Smith had surgery yesterday. What's the point of having 50 4th round picks if we can't pick a stud in that round? Going back two spots in the second round infuriated me- for what? to get more draft picks? Who cares about having more draft picks when you can't pick a good player? Out of this draft and at our draft position, we should've had at least one stud, but we end up with the second best tackle in the first round? smh.. In Oz, I don't trust... Oz has drafted terrible in the last five years, and he's done it again in year 6. This is why we're in a whole.

I'm surprised that Oz didn't draft another tight end, another safety, and another player from alabama- usually, he does every draft- we draft a million TE and Safeties and we never get this position right- that's why we have to draft one every year. I hope Bisciotti changes things up. What scares me a lot, and maybe this is Oz's way of deflecting blame, but in all his pressers, media statements, he's always like Eric and I this... Eric and I that... this shows me that both of these men need to go soon if this draft doesn't pan out. Oz even said that the last five drafts haven't been up to his standards- and other media sources have written about the same thing- I'm just frustrated we didn't pick a stud in the second rd and we moved back TWICE to supposedly acquire more picks and by moving back, i know we lost one of the players we had higher on the draft board- Oz and co are idiots. Let Bisciotti do the next draft- he knows we need corners and playmakers- I see solid players but i dont see studs and playmakers...

OzzieBiscoitti: You really need to read a little more before you type. The Ravens have had salary cap issues. Some the front office's fault, some not. They could not afford to "buy" a Norman, nor "cut" a Webb. I could go on, but that would upset you too much. There is a franchise down I95 that I am sure you would be happy to root for. Good luck.

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Lets not rush to judgement yet. Yes Ozzie and the gang have not been doing so well the past several years, however, some studs have proven to be worth their draft pick. They include CJ Mosley, Jernigan, Crockett Gilmore, and Brandon Williams. In fact, the only team I would fire Ozzie and company for is the Jacksonville Jags front office. Wow did they have a great couple of nights!! I would take Jalen Ramsey, Miles Jack, and Yannick Ngakoue (Terps) over our 3 picks any day of the week, even if it costs us the 4th and 5th round picks we have. Its time for Elam, Breshad Perriman, Terrace Brooks, and Arthur Brown to step up this season. I also wonder why some teams are so much better than us in compiling more early round picks. We are good at having more 4th and 5th round pics over the years but some teams have 2 or 3 1st or 2nd round picks. I think its easier to hit on a good player if you have more picks at the top of the draft than trying to find a stud in the 4th round.

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Oz, Eric, and Scouts need to get cannned. Every damn year, Oz forgets to draft a cornerback in the first 3 rounds. Our DBs suck. While the Redskins get better with studs like Josh Norman, we're stuck with no name corners on our team- why the heck is Webb still on our team at the amount he costs? And Jimmy Smith had surgery yesterday. What's the point of having 50 4th round picks if we can't pick a stud in that round? Going back two spots in the second round infuriated me- for what? to get more draft picks? Who cares about having more draft picks when you can't pick a good player? Out of this draft and at our draft position, we should've had at least one stud, but we end up with the second best tackle in the first round? smh.. In Oz, I don't trust... Oz has drafted terrible in the last five years, and he's done it again in year 6. This is why we're in a whole.

I'm surprised that Oz didn't draft another tight end, another safety, and another player from alabama- usually, he does every draft- we draft a million TE and Safeties and we never get this position right- that's why we have to draft one every year. I hope Bisciotti changes things up. What scares me a lot, and maybe this is Oz's way of deflecting blame, but in all his pressers, media statements, he's always like Eric and I this... Eric and I that... this shows me that both of these men need to go soon if this draft doesn't pan out. Oz even said that the last five drafts haven't been up to his standards- and other media sources have written about the same thing- I'm just frustrated we didn't pick a stud in the second rd and we moved back TWICE to supposedly acquire more picks and by moving back, i know we lost one of the players we had higher on the draft board- Oz and co are idiots. Let Bisciotti do the next draft- he knows we need corners and playmakers- I see solid players but i dont see studs and playmakers...

Nice rant, I guess. Personally, I stopped reading after the first sentence. I take it you're upset. It's just a draft. Be happy and optimistic, at least until Jump Ball Joe starts puttin' it up for grabs.

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I think they are over thinking things. They are trying to find a "diamond in the rough" in the second round. Just choose the name brand players and call it a day. They want to target people no one else wants. If the consensus top players are still there, just pick them. No one will fault you if they don't turn out good. But if you choose people who are not on anyones board, then you can't expect much from these players.

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It is time for Ozzie to go, Eric to go and the scouts must go

Because you would do a much better job than they can, right?

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makes no sense to have all these 4th rounders. They should have traded up and got some real players. We need difference makers. we don't need a bunch of developmental players. Sport Illustrated said Spence could be a "Demarcus Ware" type difference maker. Why did we pass on someone who could potentially be that good and pick up a no name?

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Kamalei Correa....can anyone say John Simon. Hope Springs Eternal.

What a terrible comparison. Correa is much more athletic and has a lot more burst than John ever had.

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makes no sense to have all these 4th rounders. They should have traded up and got some real players. We need difference makers. we don't need a bunch of developmental players. Sport Illustrated said Spence could be a "Demarcus Ware" type difference maker. Why did we pass on someone who could potentially be that good and pick up a no name?

That would be my only criticism or concern of this draft.

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I Love these picks! 3 great rock solid players with excellent character, good work ethics and high motor skills! Oz didn't take any chances on getting a flash in the pan deva that could possibly end up being suspended or in the courts before the years end. Nor did he take any chances on players with any physical setbacks early in the draft. I love Myles Jack, but a round 2 pick was way to high for a stud that might play in 6 months. Will he need more surgery? Will he be back to full form when it's all said and done? Ozzie will be more apt to pick up players like that, earlier in the draft, after we're back in the playoff picture. But we have needs to fill right now! We had enough IR bench warmers last year! Then, if I'm right, isn't the pay for higher round picks more than the lower ones? If so, wouldn't that make the 4th round a lot more cap friendly? Leaving more room for future FA deals? Correct me if I'm wrong. There's a lot more to making these choices than meets the eye. And don't be so upset that the Ravens draft filters are a lot thicker than the other teams. After taking all this into account, I Truly believe we have taken the very best available in the draft and have a great strategy moving forward! May God Bless our Ravens and the Organization! Rock on Ravens

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2 hours ago, BenWin said:

I think it's also important to remember that the pass rushers works in tandem with the secondary, so improvements in either group also upgrades our overall pass defense.

This. The secondary looks a lot better when the quarter back is picking himself off the ground every other down. You can have the bect cb in the league but if the qb has forever it really doesn't matter. 

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I think Steve should hire all these people who post on this site. They obviously know much more about drafting than our present group. Cmon Steve make our
team better by hiring these experts.

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Take a painful look at the last 10 drafts. Some hits in the early rounds, minimal hits in the 4th and 5th rounds where we like to stockpile all those great picks. The majority of these players last until the third day of the draft for a reason.

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The fact is in the last 7 years Ravens have drafted more under achieving or bust players. That is fact. These writer keep mentioning the Wright signing like he is a pro bowl player smh. Once again Ravens go into a draft with glaring holes and do not get one blue chip, sure fire player in the secondary or pass rusher and just a bunch of guys that need to develop. By the time they do, they will get better contracts elsewhere like Ellerbe, Kruger, KO, Torrey, McPhee.. But in OZ we Trust?

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In my opinion only , no need for ravens fans to be concerned, with these pics the team will be in the
top 5 next year & Ozzie will mess that up too. Ravens will be fighting for last
place with browns next season.

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  2 hours ago, OzzieBisciotti said:

Oz, Eric, and Scouts need to get cannned. Every damn year, Oz forgets to draft a cornerback in the first 3 rounds. Our DBs suck. While the Redskins get better with studs like Josh Norman, we're stuck with no name corners on our team- why the heck is Webb still on our team at the amount he costs? And Jimmy Smith had surgery yesterday. What's the point of having 50 4th round picks if we can't pick a stud in that round? Going back two spots in the second round infuriated me- for what? to get more draft picks? Who cares about having more draft picks when you can't pick a good player? Out of this draft and at our draft position, we should've had at least one stud, but we end up with the second best tackle in the first round? smh.. In Oz, I don't trust... Oz has drafted terrible in the last five years, and he's done it again in year 6. This is why we're in a whole.

I'm surprised that Oz didn't draft another tight end, another safety, and another player from alabama- usually, he does every draft- we draft a million TE and Safeties and we never get this position right- that's why we have to draft one every year. I hope Bisciotti changes things up. What scares me a lot, and maybe this is Oz's way of deflecting blame, but in all his pressers, media statements, he's always like Eric and I this... Eric and I that... this shows me that both of these men need to go soon if this draft doesn't pan out. Oz even said that the last five drafts haven't been up to his standards- and other media sources have written about the same thing- I'm just frustrated we didn't pick a stud in the second rd and we moved back TWICE to supposedly acquire more picks and by moving back, i know we lost one of the players we had higher on the draft board- Oz and co are idiots. Let Bisciotti do the next draft- he knows we need corners and playmakers- I see solid players but i dont see studs and playmakers...

Nice rant, I guess. Personally, I stopped reading after the first sentence. I take it you're upset. It's just a draft. Be happy and optimistic, at least until Jump Ball Joe starts puttin' it up for grabs.

stop watching football

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Lets call out what we really did. Over the past few years the Ravens have declined in our drafting ability. We have the same old boys in the war room drunk with confidence in our drafting...thinking we know the best players out there. We have been outsmarting ourselves with what we think we know. So, rather than taking the chance on elite players with a question mark, we went safe early and then try to grab quantity later in the draft hoping to find that future star. Key word, hoping. If you told me we had the choice to take Tunsil and Jack in the 1st 2 rounds or Stanley and Correa, I would of bet my life on the two best players at their respective positions...Clearly, Tunsil and Jack. Complete no brainer. But No, we did not. Jack has the bigger question mark but his ability is so far beyond Correa. Not to be a Debbie Downer, but seriously, this is probably our worst draft decision I have seen since our existence of the franchise. Matt Elam and Arthur Brown a few years ago was bad, and I called it then, but this is a chance we blew with our high pick. So disappointing. Save your insults on my post...I have a football and lacrosse playing and coaching background and know athletes, and my passion for this game is second to none. Once our last game ends every season, I research the draft and mocks everyday for fun and watch all I can to do my own evaluations for the first couple of rounds. Of course I don't know everything but I know my stuff, period. Later rounds are for the career people and scouts, they have that time to reseach that. 1st and 2nd rds, I know like the back of my hand with these athletes, with the exception of some diamonds in the rough.. Ultimately, time will tell on our picks but my money is this evaluation on our first 2 picks. I really do hate to say it, cuz I bleed black and purple, but educated fans out there know I'm right and don't say "in Ozzie we Trust"...that was true for so long, but not in recent years. Proof in in the pudding...go back and look at the history.

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I think Steve should hire all these people who post on this site. They obviously know much more about drafting than our present group. Cmon Steve make our
team better by hiring these experts.

Lol yeah no thanks... these Internet GM experts would have probably drafted Lawrence Phillips instead of Ogden back in '96

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The fact is in the last 7 years Ravens have drafted more under achieving or bust players. That is fact. These writer keep mentioning the Wright signing like he is a pro bowl player smh. Once again Ravens go into a draft with glaring holes and do not get one blue chip, sure fire player in the secondary or pass rusher and just a bunch of guys that need to develop. By the time they do, they will get better contracts elsewhere like Ellerbe, Kruger, KO, Torrey, McPhee.. But in OZ we Trust?

Agree to a certain extent. Actually the last 10 years have been brutal.

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Lets call out what we really did. Over the past few years the Ravens have declined in our drafting ability. We have the same old boys in the war room drunk with confidence in our drafting...thinking we know the best players out there. We have been outsmarting ourselves with what we think we know. So, rather than taking the chance on elite players with a question mark, we went safe early and then try to grab quantity later in the draft hoping to find that future star. Key word, hoping. If you told me we had the choice to take Tunsil and Jack in the 1st 2 rounds or Stanley and Correa, I would of bet my life on the two best players at their respective positions...Clearly, Tunsil and Jack. Complete no brainer. But No, we did not. Jack has the bigger question mark but his ability is so far beyond Correa. Not to be a Debbie Downer, but seriously, this is probably our worst draft decision I have seen since our existence of the franchise. Matt Elam and Arthur Brown a few years ago was bad, and I called it then, but this is a chance we blew with our high pick. So disappointing. Save your insults on my post...I have a football and lacrosse playing and coaching background and know athletes, and my passion for this game is second to none. Once our last game ends every season, I research the draft and mocks everyday for fun and watch all I can to do my own evaluations for the first couple of rounds. Of course I don't know everything but I know my stuff, period. Later rounds are for the career people and scouts, they have that time to reseach that. 1st and 2nd rds, I know like the back of my hand with these athletes, with the exception of some diamonds in the rough.. Ultimately, time will tell on our picks but my money is this evaluation on our first 2 picks. I really do hate to say it, cuz I bleed black and purple, but educated fans out there know I'm right and don't say "in Ozzie we Trust"...that was true for so long, but not in recent years. Proof in in the pudding...go back and look at the history.

I've been looking at the history over the last 10 years of our draft picks. A few hits......LOTS of misses.

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