[News] Ozzie Newsome Explains Passing On Myles Jack And Noah Spence

[outkast1]

Bralon Addison is also still there as a good slot option for the Ravens.

[outkast1]

7 minutes ago, ravensnj said:

Throw in Scooby Wright for me. Thanks in advance.

Sorry ! I forgot about Scooby !

[slowboater]

i sure as hell hope we wont regret on passing on myles jack.....

So when he has to have surgery, will those that criticized Perriman's injury come out a say they are relieved that the Ravens "didn't" select him?

[ravensnj]

  12 minutes ago, ravensnj said:

Throw in Scooby Wright for me. Thanks in advance.

Sorry ! I forgot about Scooby !

He should fit in with our latest picks, great motor / heart

[ravensnj]

Cb's and Wr's coming next?

[slowboater]

Our draft is a big zero so far. Some real "ballers", got away. Lets hope Day 3 brings more hope. Stanley is the only starter I see.

As I try and wrap my head around the Ravens' draft plan, the only thing I come up with is their observation that the team needs better overall depth. Is it better to have more bodies or is it better to have a few future stars? Time will tell.

[Tru11]

11 minutes ago, slowboater said:

So when he has to have surgery, will those that criticized Perriman's injury come out a say they are relieved that the Ravens "didn't" select him?

no idea i was not 1 of them.

they probably will although it depends on when it happens and what he has done in that time span.

if he becomes a 1st team all pro player i doubt they will out and say that though.
if he is a huge bust i take it they will.

also im not sure why people want to draw that comparison though.

what happend to perriman was unexpected.
we already know what the deal is with jack.

honestly any player can get a knee injury at any point in their career even with out any prior history.
heck i doubt anyone expect flacco to injury his knee......

 

Edited April 30, 2016 by Tru11

[whobilly]

"To be honest, the guys that we had started out the day that we wanted to pick, all but one were still on the board when we made the trades"

I can almost guarantee you the 1 player missing from that group was Ragland, for whom the Bills traded up just one spot ahead of us.

The rap on Ragland was a weight issue. Not a big get to the QB guy.
Sounds like Courtney Upshaw to me. Looks like he can be a player but never will be an impact guy.....just like Upshaw.

[cec327]

1 hour ago, mc_red23 said:

It's a guarantee we will, even if it's just for the next few years.

I guess there were also guarantees associated with guys like Downey and RGlll. I always wonder what is the cost is when a fan " guarantees something.

[cec327]

2 hours ago, bioLarzen said:

Taking Jack this high is pure gambling. When the player himself admits that he may need a microfracture surgery and that he may play for no more than 3 years - it's an issue... and a huge one at that.

I agree. The player , being honest, levels about his physical condition. I take him at his word. If I apply for an life insurance policy, wonder what the insurance co. requires for one to buy a policy at a reasonable cost? Why shouldn't professional sports teams do the same?

Edited April 30, 2016 by cec327

[cec327]

7 hours ago, reed20fence said:

We've had 3 consecutive years of secondaries that have gotten shredded, years by the way in which, on aggregate, we have a losing record. In those years we've had no serious 2nd starting calibre CB and have stuck an undersized coverted safety with 2 torn acls as our 2nd corner in Webby.

I wouldn't consider this "nailing everything so far."

We haven't drafted this high in over a decade and what's the first inkling? Draft a LT and trade back twice to stockpile mediocre players.

Actually, according to this morning's Sun paper, the Ravens tried to trade up with Dallas to get J. Ramsey but were rejected because J. Jones thought that the R's were going to take Elliott --confirmed by Ravens and Cowboys. It takes two to tango.

Edited April 30, 2016 by cec327

[edthehead]

Ozzie made us Draft Cash.. We in the Money, and are in position to make some moves... Gems are found in the 4th and 5th rounds

the laws of average, as a whole you miss more than you hit
that is a fact.

[edthehead]

Alot of narrow visioned fans are [ objectionable content removed], but Ozzie has been nailing everything so far.

I think you have narrow vision,
this was an extremely safe draft pick
all of them
none of our pics thus far play on the edge

[Crusader]

I highly value Charlie Casserly un bias opinion and he said of the 32 teams Ravens had the best draft then Titans. I take my hat off Ozzie you have not lost it and you done your job. No need to explain.

[throwback2000]

Just think, in a perfect football world....ROUND 1-Laremy Tunsil, LT....ROUND 2-Myles Jack, LB....ROUND 3-Noah Spence, DE/OLB. ALL POSSIBLE! This is football guys!

[Puntit]

All you guys calling for WR, I think you are actually voting for players we would need to stow on the PS/IR. Right now we have a dozen WRs on the roster, headed by SSS, Wallace, Perriman and Aiken. Nobody left is going to get on the field if these guys are healthy. We also have a bunch of good TE (headed by Watson, Gilmore, M Williams, and Pitta), and a pass catching FB (Juice). I just don't see anyone else making it onto the field.

 

we need CB and ILB depth/upgrades. Everyone else we draft is PS material.

[whobilly]

For the most part our 4th round picks over the years will not get me overly excited today.
2006 Demetrius Williams and PJ Daniels. 2007 Antwan Barnes. 2008 Marcus Smith and David Hale. 2009 No 4th round picks, must have traded back so we could pick up that all to valuable extra 5th pick. The two 5th round picks were Jason Phillips and Davon Drew. 2010 Dennis Pitta 4th round, two 5th round picks were David Reed and Arthur Jones. 2011 4th round Tanden Doss, 2 5th round picks Chykie Brown and Pernell McPhee. 2012 2 4th round picks Gino Gradkowski and Christian Thompson. 2013 2 4th round picks John Simon and Kyle Juszczyk.
2014 2 4th round picks Urban and Tallaferro. 2015 3 4th round picks Z Smith, Buck Allen, and the late Tray Walker. Basically a hand full of Players that have made any type of impact with the jury still out on several others from 2013, 2014. and 2015.

[mc_red23]

5 minutes ago, throwback2000 said:

Just think, in a perfect football world....ROUND 1-Laremy Tunsil, LT....ROUND 2-Myles Jack, LB....ROUND 3-Noah Spence, DE/OLB. ALL POSSIBLE! This is football guys!

Spence went early in the 2nd.

[Daddyfatsacks]

John Harbaugh doesn't even seem excited about the picks the past two days. He seems very disinterested.

[throwback2000]

  13 minutes ago, throwback2000 said:

Just think, in a perfect football world....ROUND 1-Laremy Tunsil, LT....ROUND 2-Myles Jack, LB....ROUND 3-Noah Spence, DE/OLB. ALL POSSIBLE! This is football guys!

Spence went early in the 2nd.

My error mc_red23. You are absolutely correct about Spence. Wishful thinking on my part.

[Daddyfatsacks]

I would've preferred us move back in the first round and get additional second and third round picks than moving back in the second twice and getting fourth and fifth round picks.

[mc_red23]

2 minutes ago, throwback2000 said:

My error mc_red23. You are absolutely correct about Spence. Wishful thinking on my part.

We can all dram 

[whobilly]

If you take a look at our drafts over the last 10 years we've had a LOT more misses than hits. Didn't realize how bad it was until I went back to take a look at all of those coveted extra picks in the 4th and 5th rounds but also saw that many of our top tier picks in the early rounds were almost as bad.

[whobilly]

All you guys calling for WR, I think you are actually voting for players we would need to stow on the PS/IR. Right now we have a dozen WRs on the roster, headed by SSS, Wallace, Perriman and Aiken. Nobody left is going to get on the field if these guys are healthy. We also have a bunch of good TE (headed by Watson, Gilmore, M Williams, and Pitta), and a pass catching FB (Juice). I just don't see anyone else making it onto the field.

 

we need CB and ILB depth/upgrades. Everyone else we draft is PS material.

Agree. Most of these picks today should be focused on building defensive depth. Hopefully we can find somebody who morphs into an impact player other than the rotation kind of guys we have now at the front 7 after Williams, Jernigan, and CJ. Obviously critical that Sizzle shows up at his "Fighting Weight" and Doom comes back strong.

[Purple Dawg 96]

Ozzie and Co. need not explain anything over here in C Town I like all the picks thus far, the Ravens are doing they're usual in picking talent, it comes down to one man how far this team goes! The Ravens are locked and loaded "Already" and they are "Padding their pockets"!

[Ravensfansince03]

What kind of explanation are they looking for its pretty obvious. "Uhh, we wanted to get a DE".

[edthehead]

  7 hours ago, reed20fence said:

  7 hours ago, gekaap said:

Alot of narrow visioned fans are wetting their panties, but Ozzie has been nailing everything so far.

We've had 3 consecutive years of secondaries that have gotten shredded, years by the way in which, on aggregate, we have a losing record. In those years we've had no serious 2nd starting calibre CB and have stuck an undersized coverted safety with 2 torn acls as our 2nd corner in Webby.

I wouldn't consider this "nailing everything so far."

We haven't drafted this high in over a decade and what's the first inkling? Draft a LT and trade back twice to stockpile mediocre players.

( personal attack removed) qWhen I said nailing everything, I was talking about the draft so far. Not the IR lists of the past two years.

But since you want to bring that up, the reason we've had problems with our secondary for the past two years is because almost the entire secondary has been out injured during that time. We've been sourcing DBs from local high school JV squads the past couple years, just so we could have enough warm bodies on the field to avoid a forfeit. I'm as irritated by the injuries as anyone, and I want the organization to get to the bottom of it. But what do you propose? We already have 7 CBs on the roster, and I believe 5 safeties. You want us to use early picks to draft even more!?! I realize that your knowledge of football is on par with your expertise in rocket sciences so let me clue you in....there's a maximum limit of 53 roster spots. We can't use 25 of them on DBs. Between Smith, Webb, and Weddle, and an assortment of decent B-list players, we're actually pretty well off in that department. We just have to keep them healthy.

Our biggest weakness the past couple years has been the offensive line. Even two years ago, when we had 10th stringers plugged in as starters, we STILL did a pretty good job of shutting down even the Patriots in the playoffs. Or don't you remember that they had to pull out trick play after trick play in order to win that game?

If we're going to have a $22 million QB, then we HAVE to have a line that can protect him. And since we couldn't afford to keep KO, getting Stanley was really the only acceptable option.

not speaking for him but my interpretation is
we have never had a problem drafting linemen in the later rounds
certain position the FO really draft well
I agree the FO could have gone a different direction
all of our pics being good but none standing out,
our players drafted was safe angelic choices
if you want a team to get over the hump
then you need certain players with certain traits
I agree with the gentleman, for me
I do not like the picks
but only because of the character traits,
killer instincts is desperately needed here
we have no killer instincts on this team

[Ravensfansince03]

You guys realy dont know how pleased I am that Ozzie went DE 2 rounds in a row. Its like, thats the exact same scenario I was hoping would play out, but I didn't think they would realisticly do it. I love the way Ozzie thinks in the midst of this past season. Addressing our defensive line is a major priority. I'd rather see improvement in the pass rushing department before the secondary department. Gotta start somewhere and they are starting at the most essential part.

[cbrook1862]

wow we tried to move back into the first round and move back into the second round. I was thinking that they just weren't being aggressive and letting players they had high on their draft boards be taken by other teams, but now that I read this the more I feel like the teams we tried to make deals with really screwed us over. Im really hurt at the fact they didn't accept these offers, otherwise this could've been a way different draft.

[b93333]

I would say Ozzie is rolling the dice big time... after some sub-par drafts we need to get it right this year. I have to think he knows what he is doing... sure hope so.