[News] Ozzie Newsome Explains Passing On Myles Jack And Noah Spence

[BR News]

The Ravens traded back twice in the second round when popular linebackers Myles Jack and Noah Spence were still on the board in the second round.

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[gekaap]

Alot of narrow visioned fans are [ objectionable content removed], but Ozzie has been nailing everything so far.

[dead serious]

Ozzie made us Draft Cash.. We in the Money, and are in position to make some moves... Gems are found in the 4th and 5th rounds

[verified]

Theres no corners left now so that means another year of watching our brittle corners get injured

[ravens4life86]

Glad they gave us some clarity on what Ozzie's thinking was...
Im happy for back 2 back pass rushers, after the confusion worn off.

Now with 5, rnd 4 picks...

Something like this.... WR Rachard Higgins,
Cb Jalen Mills,Zach Sanchez, Dj white etc
ILBr Kendrell Brothers,Scooby Wright,Bj Goodson etc

[reed20fence]

8 hours ago, gekaap said:

 

We've had 3 consecutive years of secondaries that have gotten shredded, years by the way in which, on aggregate, we have a losing record. In those years we've had no serious 2nd starting calibre CB and have stuck an undersized coverted safety with 2 torn acls as our 2nd corner in Webby.

I wouldn't consider this "nailing everything so far."

We haven't drafted this high in over a decade and what's the first inkling? Draft a LT and trade back twice to stockpile mediocre players.

[Hardhitters]

The explanation was a lack of an explanation, but can't cry over spilled milk. So we replaced Monroe and Upshaw and got a rotator for Suggs and Dumervil. Might as well try to find a McPhee also.

[BoominRaven]

guarantee spence was only lower on the board than correa because he isn't a choir boy

[ravens4life86]

5 picks round 4..

ILBr, CB, WRs, are musts

Here are some names..WRs Higgins, Marshall, CB Sanchez,White,J.Jones,
Ilbrs..Wright,Brothers,Goodson,etc

[ravens4life86]

Thanks for clarity..on Ozzies thinking... I was happy with back 2 back pass rushers

Though like everyone I would have loved Jack, or Spence

[Crusader]

7 hours ago, reed20fence said:

We've had 3 consecutive years of secondaries that have gotten shredded, years by the way in which, on aggregate, we have a losing record. In those years we've had no serious 2nd starting calibre CB and have stuck an undersized coverted safety with 2 torn acls as our 2nd corner in Webby.

I wouldn't consider this "nailing everything so far."

We haven't drafted this high in over a decade and what's the first inkling? Draft a LT and trade back twice to stockpile mediocre players.

Good reply. Kool-aid drinkers are not logical or deal in facts. Critizism is not a negative but a opposite view.

[gekaap]

( personal attack removed) qWhen I said nailing everything, I was talking about the draft so far. Not the IR lists of the past two years.

But since you want to bring that up, the reason we've had problems with our secondary for the past two years is because almost the entire secondary has been out injured during that time. We've been sourcing DBs from local high school JV squads the past couple years, just so we could have enough warm bodies on the field to avoid a forfeit. I'm as irritated by the injuries as anyone, and I want the organization to get to the bottom of it. But what do you propose? We already have 7 CBs on the roster, and I believe 5 safeties. You want us to use early picks to draft even more!?! I realize that your knowledge of football is on par with your expertise in rocket sciences so let me clue you in....there's a maximum limit of 53 roster spots. We can't use 25 of them on DBs. Between Smith, Webb, and Weddle, and an assortment of decent B-list players, we're actually pretty well off in that department. We just have to keep them healthy.

Our biggest weakness the past couple years has been the offensive line. Even two years ago, when we had 10th stringers plugged in as starters, we STILL did a pretty good job of shutting down even the Patriots in the playoffs. Or don't you remember that they had to pull out trick play after trick play in order to win that game?

If we're going to have a $22 million QB, then we HAVE to have a line that can protect him. And since we couldn't afford to keep KO, getting Stanley was really the only acceptable option.

[pocket]

6 hours ago, gekaap said:

 When I said nailing everything, I was talking about the draft so far. Not the IR lists of the past two years.

But since you want to bring that up, the reason we've had problems with our secondary for the past two years is because almost the entire secondary has been out injured during that time. We've been sourcing DBs from local high school JV squads the past couple years, just so we could have enough warm bodies on the field to avoid a forfeit. I'm as irritated by the injuries as anyone, and I want the organization to get to the bottom of it. But what do you propose? We already have 7 CBs on the roster, and I believe 5 safeties. You want us to use early picks to draft even more!?! I realize that your knowledge of football is on par with your expertise in rocket sciences so let me clue you in....there's a maximum limit of 53 roster spots. We can't use 25 of them on DBs. Between Smith, Webb, and Weddle, and an assortment of decent B-list players, we're actually pretty well off in that department. We just have to keep them healthy.

Our biggest weakness the past couple years has been the offensive line. Even two years ago, when we had 10th stringers plugged in as starters, we STILL did a pretty good job of shutting down even the Patriots in the playoffs. Or don't you remember that they had to pull out trick play after trick play in order to win that game?

If we're going to have a $22 million QB, then we HAVE to have a line that can protect him. And since we couldn't afford to keep KO, getting Stanley was really the only acceptable option.

I'm sure factoring in that those two teams weren't a competitive threat to the ravens.. Didn't figure into the equation..

[Maryland]

"To be honest, the guys that we had started out the day that we wanted to pick, all but one were still on the board when we made the trades"

I can almost guarantee you the 1 player missing from that group was Ragland, for whom the Bills traded up just one spot ahead of us.

[Tru11]

i sure as hell hope we wont regret on passing on myles jack.....

[bioLarzen]

Taking Jack this high is pure gambling. When the player himself admits that he may need a microfracture surgery and that he may play for no more than 3 years - it's an issue... and a huge one at that.

[mc_red23]

8 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

i sure as hell hope we wont regret on passing on myles jack.....

It's a guarantee we will, even if it's just for the next few years.

Edited April 30, 2016 by mc_red23

[bioLarzen]

i sure as hell hope we wont regret on passing on myles jack.....

Thats interesting: if there's a fandom that should know how a problematic knee can ruin your draft, it's Raven Nation (with Perriman) - and still a lot of us were yearning for spending a second-rounder on Jack...

[OzzieBisciotti]

Oz and Eric and all the scouts need to go- totally messed up the second round of trading- we've haven't been in this position where we draft on the top of the round for years, and what do we do? The board needs to be turned upside down- perhaps then we'll draft better. I'm sick of having all these 4th round picks. for what? We can't even draft well in the 1 or 2nd round. we knew about Perriman's injuries and now we're worried about Myles Jack? SMH. We need a new FO- I'm sick of acquriing a million picks to move back in the draft- as you can see, when we wanted to get back in the second rd, no on wanted to deal with our 4th round picks bc everyone knows you can't do anything with a 4th round pick- when will Ozzie get it? then we get played by other teams and move back twice in the second round? smh- you figure we would've gotten one stud, but we come away with the second best tackle in the first round. Now, we don't get to the playoffs until 2018.

[Tru11]

3 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

Thats interesting: if there's a fandom that should know how a problematic knee can ruin your draft, it's Raven Nation (with Perriman) - and still a lot of us were yearning for spending a second-rounder on Jack...

care to elaborate?

how did the injury to perriman ruin our draft?

you already gave up on him because he missed the season?
you feel that everyone else we drafted are bust?

perriman knee injury has not been some traumatic experience to me which now has me avoid anyone with an injury like the plague lol

love to know where you are trying to go with this....

 

[Tru11]

45 minutes ago, mc_red23 said:

It's a guarantee we will, even if it's just for the next few years.

yeah i have feeling this kid will be really special even if its for a few years.

TBH even if he had knee microfracture surgery down the road that might have him miss a season its no guaranteed he wont ever play again.
its pretty much a guessing game.
there have been players who underwent that surgery and still had productive careers , so there is that.

to me his talent was well worth the risk but it seems a lot of people have gotten a trauma of what happend to perriman lol

[TXRavensFan]

  4 hours ago, reed20fence said:

  5 hours ago, gekaap said:

Alot of narrow visioned fans are wetting their panties, but Ozzie has been nailing everything so far.

We've had 3 consecutive years of secondaries that have gotten shredded, years by the way in which, on aggregate, we have a losing record. In those years we've had no serious 2nd starting calibre CB and have stuck an undersized coverted safety with 2 torn acls as our 2nd corner in Webby.

I wouldn't consider this "nailing everything so far."

We haven't drafted this high in over a decade and what's the first inkling? Draft a LT and trade back twice to stockpile mediocre players.

Good reply. Kool-aid drinkers are not logical or deal in facts. Critizism is not a negative but a opposite view.

You might have a point if that's what's been happening. Rather, it's a case of the worst homers of all, the "anti-homer homer" (easily identified by the propensity to use "kool-aid" and "purple-colored glasses" to describe other fans) simply criticizing every thing the team does in an effort to prove that they are the real/true fans.

[mc_red23]

15 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

yeah i have feeling this kid will be really special even if its for a few years.

TBH even if he had knee microfracture surgery down the road that might have him miss a season its no guaranteed he wont ever play again.
its pretty much a guessing game.
there have been players who underwent that surgery and still had productive careers , so there is that.

to me his talent was well worth the risk but it seems a lot of people have gotten a trauma of what happend to perriman lol

I agree with you on the Perriman situation, it shouldn't be the case though. Dante Fowler got injured for the season and they actually traded up for Jack. 

[Tru11]

8 minutes ago, mc_red23 said:

I agree with you on the Perriman situation, it shouldn't be the case though. Dante Fowler got injured for the season and they actually traded up for Jack. 

cant believe people are already labeling him a bust and calling that draft ruined after 1 season lol.

i mean williams and davis show promise.
same goes for allen and smith.

sad what happend to walker.

boyle is a knuckle head who showed promise as well.

Waller is a project and no idea where myers is lol.

perriman might be everything we hoped for.

calling this draft ruined  seems like huge overreacting to me.......

Edited April 30, 2016 by Tru11

[ravensnj]

It was painful to watch Sterling Sheppard get taken by NYG, but, when Sean Davis was taken by the Steelers, rage set in, and it cost me a tv remote.

[throwback2000]

Our draft is a big zero so far. Some real "ballers", got away. Lets hope Day 3 brings more hope. Stanley is the only starter I see.

[outkast1]

It's a another sad day for me, as all the top players on my board didn't get drafted. I hope Shawn Oakman ,Victor Ochi , or Pharroh Cooper get drafted by the ravens.

Edited April 30, 2016 by outkast1

[cec327]

Next year-- scene1-- Ravens fans " I'm glad we took Jack, he's playing great"
scene 2 -" why did we take Jack, didn't we learn a lesson with Perriman?"
I believe its called second guessing of Monday Morning QB but hey, that's what fans do. We make mind bets since the only thing that you can lose is your mind.Like, I would never have taken J. Downey or RGlll. I would have taken Brady in the 6th round though.

[ravensnj]

8 minutes ago, outkast1 said:

It's a another sad day for me as all the top players on my board didn't get drafted. I hope Shawn Oakman ,Victor Ochi , or Pharroh Cooper get drafted by the ravens.

Throw in Scooby Wright for me. Thanks in advance.

Edited April 30, 2016 by ravensnj

[Run Pass Pass Punt]

I would have rather had Buckner, Jack, Spence, Ragland than 5 4th rounders. Maybe we can trade the 5 4ths for 7 7th rounders...

Edited April 30, 2016 by Run Pass Pass Punt