Why all the hate?

[trevorsteadman]

3 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

He's also mid workout there and fully flexed and fully pumped lol. 

 

I'm not saying he isn't jacked, just that he doesn't look anything close to maxed out. If you look at Leonard Floyd for example, he's really skinny, but his muscle definition is like 100%, he looks like he has no room to grow, like there's no place to add more muscle. You don't see that with KC.

Good thing he has 4 months till the regular season right? I'm excited about all of our new blood in the pass rusher department.

[JoeyFlex5]

17 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

Good thing he has 4 months till the regular season right? I'm excited about all of our new blood in the pass rusher department.

Not only that, he's got a whole rookie contract to progress. Even if he isn't the man by the end of the season he still is growing. 

[trevorsteadman]

1 minute ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Not only that, he's got a whole rookie contract to progress. Even if he isn't the man by the end of the season he still is growing. 

I think that was what a lot of our picks are. I can see Kaufusi being our starting DE if he shows he is up for the task. But other than him and Stanley none of these guys will likely be starters. Which is fine we do not need them to be yet. A lot of these guys are huge playmakers with huge upside and if 4 or 5 of these guys turn into quality starters down the road I see this draft being being a success.

[JoeyFlex5]

16 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

I think that was what a lot of our picks are. I can see Kaufusi being our starting DE if he shows he is up for the task. But other than him and Stanley none of these guys will likely be starters. Which is fine we do not need them to be yet. A lot of these guys are huge playmakers with huge upside and if 4 or 5 of these guys turn into quality starters down the road I see this draft being being a success.

I think a lot of these guys make the 53 this year and allow us to cut some deadweight. I think Stanley, correa, kaufusi, young, dixon, henry, and I'm also gonna say Victor ochi, make the 53 for a majority of the season.

[Italian Raven]

3 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

I think that was what a lot of our picks are. I can see Kaufusi being our starting DE if he shows he is up for the task. But other than him and Stanley none of these guys will likely be starters. Which is fine we do not need them to be yet. A lot of these guys are huge playmakers with huge upside and if 4 or 5 of these guys turn into quality starters down the road I see this draft being being a success.

With starting DE you mean 3-4 (3t)? Because I actually see him more as a Sam/Leo.. a Suggs replacement rushing the passer either with his hands in the dirt or standing rather than plugged inside. You see he doesn't extend his arms fully to maintain his stance against the run and preferes to dive with his shoulder into the opponents frame to generate some push. He rather tries to swim outside or try to penetrate the gap with a counter but he's not strong enough to the point of attack if you want to play him there.. he'd be pushed like a ragdoll.

Btw I just quickly watched 4 Dixon tapes.. I didn't remember he was so explosive in his change of direction.. very good start&stop motor (a là DeAndre Washington). Too bad he can't break tackles. He'd be very valuable on 3rd down in a DeAnthony Thomas role as you're trying to stretch the field.

[RavensFanMania]

38 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I think a lot of these guys make the 53 this year and allow us to cut some deadweight. I think Stanley, correa, kaufusi, young, dixon, henry, and I'm also gonna say Victor ochi, make the 53 for a majority of the season.

You don't think the two WR, Moore or Reynolds will make the team.  I'm pulling for Reynolds if I had to make a choice as I think he can be a really nice weapon. 

Edited May 1, 2016 by RavensFanMania

[Winchester]

31 minutes ago, Italian Raven said:

With starting DE you mean 3-4 (3t)? Because I actually see him more as a Sam/Leo.. a Suggs replacement rushing the passer either with his hands in the dirt or standing rather than plugged inside. You see he doesn't extend his arms fully to maintain his stance against the run and preferes to dive with his shoulder into the opponents frame to generate some push. He rather tries to swim outside or try to penetrate the gap with a counter but he's not strong enough to the point of attack if you want to play him there.. he'd be pushed like a ragdoll.

Btw I just quickly watched 4 Dixon tapes.. I didn't remember he was so explosive in his change of direction.. very good start&stop motor (a là DeAndre Washington). Too bad he can't break tackles. He'd be very valuable on 3rd down in a DeAnthony Thomas role as you're trying to stretch the field.

You beat me to it dude.  I was going to say He should put on an even symmetrical  10-12 lbs in legs and upper body then lose about 8 lbs of fat to keep from getting to heavy.

[Jacquouille]

38 minutes ago, RavensFanMania said:

You don't think the two WR, Moore or Reynolds will make the team.  I'm pulling for Reynolds if I had to make a choice as I think he can be a really nice weapon. 

Remains to be seen if he stays in the Navy for the next 2 years like he said he would.

 

I actually like Moore as more (no pun intended) than a deep threat. He's by no means fast, but I like how he attacks the ball, and the agressive mindset he has. He kind of reminds me of a taller/slower Corey Coleman. I see a guy that will be very coachable, as I think adding some routes to his arsenal won't be too difficult.

[BmoreBird22]

10 hours ago, Italian Raven said:

lol Ogbah to Cleveland was a big relief.

My best case scenario was Fackrell(2nd)/Fuller(3rd) or Alexander/Calhoun.

Alexander(Thomas)/Calhoun would have been a dream come true for me.

[trevorsteadman]

My question is does Reynolds count against our 53 man roster if he is in the Navy for another two years? Or will he go onto some other non-football related activity or duty list?

[harfordravenfan]

9 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

My question is does Reynolds count against our 53 man roster if he is in the Navy for another two years? Or will he go onto some other non-football related activity or duty list?

Couldn't imagine that he'd count against our 53 man team if he's actively serving

[trevorsteadman]

Just now, harfordravenfan said:

Couldn't imagine that he'd count against our 53 man team if he's actively serving

Yeah this answer was answered on the other board. I think he will be a wild card for us two years down the road. 

[flynismo]

8 hours ago, DomMcRaven said:

I know draft grades shouldn't mean much but this is from NFL.com,

Ravens:

Day 1 grade: B 
Day 2 grade: A 
Day 3 grade: A 
Overall grade: A- 

Steelers:

Day 1 grade: B+ 
Day 2 grade: A 
Day 3 grade: C 
Overall grade: A-

Huh???

The math definitely doesn't add up there, does it? lol

Guess that's the benefit of being a media darling

[flynismo]

6 hours ago, Tru11 said:

well if you think about it , we are not the most popular team in the league and most dont want us to see us succeed.

so if everyone agrees that we have a great draft im wondering if they say that in their or our intrest lol.

i mean i think the steelers had a great draft to for us hahahha

lol! I love a good conspiracy, so I'll roll with that!

[JoeyFlex5]

7 minutes ago, flynismo said:

The math definitely doesn't add up there, does it? lol

Guess that's the benefit of being a media darling

Not to mention... Artie burns in the first and Sean Davis in the 2nd receives a B+ and an A. 

 

How.

[flynismo]

14 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

You think KC has the higher ceiling? I'm surprised, but Okay. Shame we don't have more tape on him.

I agree 100%, KC absolutely has a higher ceiling. Much higher, I don't even think there is a comparison. Whether that translates to the pro game, we'll need to wait and see. Spence is certainly more polished at this moment in time.

[flynismo]

5 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

This has to be the first time people were concerned about a supremely explosive Polynesian player not being able to bulk up.

Lmao! I guess when people don't like a guy, there are no limits to the knits they'll pick

[flynismo]

6 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Not to mention... Artie burns in the first and Sean Davis in the 2nd receives a B+ and an A. 

 

How.

I didn't even think of that...how, indeed. Can't lie, I think Artie was a good pickup for them. At the end of the 2nd...

[Tank 92]

3 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

Remains to be seen if he stays in the Navy for the next 2 years like he said he would.

 

 

It's not his decision.  The Navy owns him for 5 years and only they can allow him to play.

[usmccharles]

2 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

It's not his decision.  The Navy owns him for 5 years and only they can allow him to play.

I'll be honest,  if he isn't  allowed to play I will be pretty disappointed. Isn't that kind of a dumb pick to make without clarification from the Navy ahead of time? 

[JoeyFlex5]

14 minutes ago, flynismo said:

I didn't even think of that...how, indeed. Can't lie, I think Artie was a good pickup for them. At the end of the 2nd...

Artie was a polarizing player. I personally think he'sgonna be a flat out bust. I just don't see the coverage skills

[allblackraven]

nfl.com has also rated cheaters draft B both days, which is even more laughable.

[flynismo]

4 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Artie was a polarizing player. I personally think he'sgonna be a flat out bust. I just don't see the coverage skills

Well, it would not surprise me in the least if he busts out. No way I touch him anywhere near the 1st, but I think for a CB needy team, he's worth the shot at the end of the second.

[Tank 92]

15 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

I'll be honest,  if he isn't  allowed to play I will be pretty disappointed. Isn't that kind of a dumb pick to make without clarification from the Navy ahead of time? 

I think it helps that he was drafted by the Ravens. They should be able to work something out where he can serve locally while playing. Guessing it depends on his career path.

Edited May 2, 2016 by Tank 92

[443hurricane]

I'm probably biased but I'm rooting for Burns. Tough background story. Anybody who loses their mother at the age of 21. I know I'm in my mid 30's and my mother is getting older (59) and I would be devastated if she died.

 

 

[Edgar]

45 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Artie was a polarizing player. I personally think he'sgonna be a flat out bust. I just don't see the coverage skills

Not to mention he has zero interest in tackling. Can't believe they took him in the first. 

[DomMcRaven]

3 hours ago, flynismo said:

The math definitely doesn't add up there, does it? lol

Guess that's the benefit of being a media darling

I guess, but whatever. We'll see what happens when the regular season is over. 

3 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Not to mention... Artie burns in the first and Sean Davis in the 2nd receives a B+ and an A. 

 

How.

I didn't understand that either. A lot of people in the comment section think the writer of the article is a Steelers fan. Smh. 

2 hours ago, allblackraven said:

nfl.com has also rated cheaters draft B both days, which is even more laughable.

Especially when their Day 1 grade was Incomplete. I don't get it. 

[RavensDieHard21]

On ‎4‎/‎30‎/‎2016 at 11:53 PM, Sizzlebshu said:

You realize we had a chance to draft Noah Spence who is an infinitely better pass rusher than Kamalei or Myles Jack who is a better player than anyone who went off the board today and likely on day 1 as well. Could have taken Chris Jones (a much higher upside guy) 

Correa is an underweight edge setter. He isn't an edge bender. He certainly isn't a power rusher. We aren't playing him at ILB and we aren't running a 4-3. He isn't super technically refined On top of all that, he didn't even play against top competition like Upshaw did.  What's the positive? He's relentless? Who cares. Any idiot can be that or coached to be that. We didn't get an explosive EDGE at all. We got an effort/motor player. 

Bronson was a much better pick. Well coached. Bigger upside. Higher athleticism. 

 

 

 

 

I laughed so hard when I reads this! It is spot on haha Motor is a key factor for those players that have the technical skills and frames to go along with it. Just having a motor does not make you lethal.

[RavensDieHard21]

I love KC upside and he is an all around player, but it will take some time for him to develop into a pass rusher and he doesn't really fit the bill as an ILB either though. I just seen him as a late 2nd, early third like player and lets take off the rose tinted glasses, if Suggs doesn't come back at least 80% then our pass rush department for a second straight year will be in trouble I feel. Spence was by far the best pass rusher ready to come in on obvious passing downs.

[TurkishRaven]

19 hours ago, flynismo said:

The math definitely doesn't add up there, does it? lol

Guess that's the benefit of being a media darling

I wish my job was like that too. None of the mocks were accurate. Even the top picks no one said chargers were interested in Bosa.. now they are grading like nothing happened. They are getting paid to say whatever.