Welcome to Baltimore, Kamalei Correa Round 2 Pick 42

[Edgar]

1 hour ago, GrimCoconut said:

Lol, for a minute I had to check the thread because I thought you were talking about Bronson Kaufusi. I see this in Bronson. 

No doubt that description fits Kaufusi. 

[ellicottraven]

I have extensively watched Correa's game tape (the abbreviated one) from draft breakdown and found that he is one relentless player. He may not have the great bend mastered yet, but the guy is a bull dog. I think he's a player that has a nose for the football. He instinctively follows it and can shed blocks to make tackles. He is pretty violent when he tackles too because he tackles through the ball carrier. I now really believe he was definitely rated higher than Noah Spence perhaps just a notch below Dodd who we tried to trade up for imo. 

In any case, I think he is going to be a stud for a long time to come and is going to be an integral part of our defense going forward.

[atomicfront]

He looks small to me.  I would have taken Spence.  

[Static]

1 minute ago, atomicfront said:

He looks small to me.  I would have taken Spence.  

Vonn Miller was smaller comming out , so is Lenoard Floyd , Randy Gregory was small etc etc.

 

 

[atomicfront]

1 minute ago, Static said:

smaller comming out , so is Lenoard Floyd , Randy Gregory was small etc etc.

So was Arthur Brown.  Just watched Von Miller's college highlights no comparison to Correa.  Miller seems explosively fast in college. 

[rmw10]

I really wish people would stop citing Von Miller.  He's the exception, not the norm.

[JoeyFlex5]

16 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I really wish people would stop citing Von Miller.  He's the exception, not the norm.

I personally really like the clay Matthews comp. I couldn't think of a comparison for him but then I read that one and I think it's spot on

[Static]

Just like last year our 2nd round pick seems more exciting than our 1st rounder.

[ALPHA]

My only issue with him is he plays a bit out of control, when he's trying to win the edge he seems to lose the ball carrier.

[trevorsteadman]

25 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I personally really like the clay Matthews comp. I couldn't think of a comparison for him but then I read that one and I think it's spot on

Do you think down the road he can play inside linebacker for us like Matthews started doing in Green Bay? Or do you see him as strictly an outside guy? He is pretty fast for an outside linebacker with a great burst I wonder if he could do some pass rush damage in the middle next to Mosley.

[PolishRifle]

42 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I personally really like the clay Matthews comp. I couldn't think of a comparison for him but then I read that one and I think it's spot on

He has a similar bodytype. His 40 yard dash time, bench press numbers and broad jump are nearly identical to Clays, also. But not his vert. Clay managed to jump almost 5 inches higher than Kamalei and I do think it shows up in less burst off the line. I suppose you can train all of this including KCs lack of pass rushing moves, which was something Clay struggled with also.

I still would've prefered Myles Jack, who is an amazing athlete, but it seems like the Ravens had their hearts set on getting pass rush ASAP. I don't really see how Noah Spence is that much better than Kamalei. Spence has a better bend and he faced better competition, but their both in the same class of good, but not great pass rushing prospects and I feel like KC might have the higher ceiling, because he didn't receive great coaching up until now.

Edited May 1, 2016 by PolishRifle

[808Blackbirds]

Im from Hawaii so i wanted Deforest Buckner and Kamalei Correa. Happy we got one of them.

OGs Oahu Grown.

[ravensdan]

2 hours ago, trevorsteadman said:

Do you think down the road he can play inside linebacker for us like Matthews started doing in Green Bay? Or do you see him as strictly an outside guy? He is pretty fast for an outside linebacker with a great burst I wonder if he could do some pass rush damage in the middle next to Mosley.

Hopefully not. That's a giant waste IMO. It is for Green Bay and it would be for us. They have been Mao atrocious at finding lbs to stop or even slow down the run they have their best pass rusher being wasted there. They should get more heat for that. 

[Cville-Raven]

2 hours ago, trevorsteadman said:

Do you think down the road he can play inside linebacker for us like Matthews started doing in Green Bay? Or do you see him as strictly an outside guy? He is pretty fast for an outside linebacker with a great burst I wonder if he could do some pass rush damage in the middle next to Mosley.

If we put him full time at ILB that would be wasting his talent and his skill set IMO. 

[Edgar]

I think Correa is a third down pass rushing specialist this year. He's plenty explosive off the line and has to be accounted for. 

I don't like him in coverage but I'm willing to say that he is a threat off the edge this year and he can work on the rest.

Very excited about how he comes off the ball and about the teams pass rush going forward in general.

[JoeyFlex5]

38 minutes ago, Edgar said:

I think Correa is a third down pass rushing specialist this year. He's plenty explosive off the line and has to be accounted for. 

I don't like him in coverage but I'm willing to say that he is a threat off the edge this year and he can work on the rest.

Very excited about how he comes off the ball and about the teams pass rush going forward in general.

His coverage is not horrible. He absolutely shows a good feel for zone dropping. He can sense where a receiver goes when they get behind him and he has in quite a few occasions made the qb uncomfortable. 

[ravensnation5220]

On 4/30/2016 at 9:56 PM, Winchester said:

Of course I do!! But I'm realistic he doesn't have the firepower to beat nfl tackles. I liked Ngakoue better to be honest.

He has no fire power???? You think hes like upshaw????? Dude this kid can fly to the qb watch his tape and listen to some breakdowns of him, he has tons of upside as a pass rusher. He can bend the edge better than anyone in the draft, plus hes a high character guy unlike spence. They both have tons of upside and your reallly splitting hairs between the two. But to call him a bust already is just wronge. Dead wronge

[ravensnation5220]

15 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

His coverage is not horrible. He absolutely shows a good feel for zone dropping. He can sense where a receiver goes when they get behind him and he has in quite a few occasions made the qb uncomfortable. 

Ive really liked the idea of using him as a clay mathews type roll where he can also play inside backer. He has the athleticism to cover backs and tightends.

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, ravensnation5220 said:

He has no fire power???? You think hes like upshaw????? Dude this kid can fly to the qb watch his tape and listen to some breakdowns of him, he has tons of upside as a pass rusher. He can bend the edge better than anyone in the draft, plus hes a high character guy unlike spence. They both have tons of upside and your reallly splitting hairs between the two. But to call him a bust already is just wronge. Dead wronge

He doesn't bend that well because he doesn't play very light on his feet but that can absolutely be improved, suggs was heavy footed too and now he's massive and one of the lighter footed edge defenders in the league. 

 

His burst off the line is the best in the draft though. The bend and the hands is where you find the difference between Spence and correa, but correa outclasses spence across the board everywhere else

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Ive really liked the idea of using him as a clay mathews type roll where he can also play inside backer. He has the athleticism to cover backs and tightends.

I like 34OLBs who can do it all. Its a rare asset these days since everyone looks for pure edge rushers, but give me a OLB who rushes at a high level but also holds up in the run game and can sniff out screens and slants. We've seen sizzle turn games by picking off screens.

[ravensnation5220]

23 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

He doesn't bend that well because he doesn't play very light on his feet but that can absolutely be improved, suggs was heavy footed too and now he's massive and one of the lighter footed edge defenders in the league. 

 

His burst off the line is the best in the draft though. The bend and the hands is where you find the difference between Spence and correa, but correa outclasses spence across the board everywhere else

Thats what im saying lol the character and versatility is what i think sets him apart from spence. I still think correa uses his hands well though. And if hes heavy footed, hes pretty quick for a heavy footed guy. Watch matt waldmans breakdown of him on youtube if you have time, guves you a really in depth look at correa

[ravensnation5220]

25 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I like 34OLBs who can do it all. Its a rare asset these days since everyone looks for pure edge rushers, but give me a OLB who rushes at a high level but also holds up in the run game and can sniff out screens and slants. We've seen sizzle turn games by picking off screens.

Ya hes gonna be our sam linebacker, like upshaw, although he brings more to the table, will be able to stay on the feild more and has tons more upside. Im starting to think with doom and suggs grooming him how good he can actually be

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

On ‎5‎/‎1‎/‎2016 at 11:09 AM, flynismo said:

What makes him a Raven? He is absolutely relentless. You do not know the meaning of the phrase "play to the whistle" until you see this guy. A non-stop motor, he only has one speed, and that is 100% at all times. I loved Jarrett Johnson, but you will never see this kid huffing and puffing and dragging himself around the field trying to stay on his feet, much less make a play. He is tough as hell, and plays and fights bigger than any other LB on this team, other than maybe Suggs.

The raw talent is there for him to be a great player. It's his demeanor and mentality on the field that is going to make you love him and realize why he was born to be a Raven.

Appreciate the response. I'm warming more and more to this pick. Took the time to dig up some of his games and watch him - and I see a lot of your evaluation in him. There are some things I don't like still... a bit small for a rush linebacker and needs to add strength. And while he can burn the edge with speed, there were a lot of times when if the tackle gets his hands on him, he couldn't get off the block. Needs some work on his hands for sure.

But I do see the relentless nature, and his speed rush is nasty. More of a fair value pick than I originally thought, and I to assume Oz and co have a first round grade on this kid. And since I absolutely love the Judon pick as well, which doesn't come if we don't trade back twice - I'm even more settled with this pick.

My only real gripe was that I feel strongly that Spence will be the best pure pass rusher in this draft. He fell for the off field stuff which I think is behind him and has motivated him, and for a slow 40 time which is misleading bc his 10 yard split was elite which is all that really matters imo when it comes to pass rushers (in terms of using the 40 as a measure, not in overall evaluation).

Between Correa, Kaufusi, Judon and Ochi... I think we've got an extremely talented group of pass rushers that fit the Raven way and also play the run well. The more I watch on our picks and dive into them, the more and more I love this draft as a whole.

[Runnin Raven]

Gotta stay positive and trust the system.  None of these guys are finished products coming out of college.  From here its all about coaching and hard work, which I think KC is more than ready to do.

[ellicottraven]

Between Correa and Mosley we'll have 2 LBers flying to the ball on evey down I guarantee you! It'll be fun to watch all these young bucks ready to go.

BTW, I am unsure if this break down has been posted by someone on the forum somewhere but I loved it. 

 

Edited May 3, 2016 by ellicottraven

[Runnin Raven]

I enjoyed the part around 33:00 or so when they said he'll be getting in a fight with Steve Smith at practice.  Yep, that seems like a safe bet.

[JoeyFlex5]

For those that say Correa is too small and weak and can't engage, watch the BYU film where He gets a sack and multiple TFL out of the 5tech. 

 

The more I watch the more I think he was an absolute steal. He is 6'3" 245 lining up as 34DE and still making splash plays. This kid is gonna be a monster playing with a coaching staff that properly utilizes him and a strong supporting cast. 

[usmccharles]

3 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

For those that say Correa is too small and weak and can't engage, watch the BYU film where He gets a sack and multiple TFL out of the 5tech. 

 

The more I watch the more I think he was an absolute steal. He is 6'3" 245 lining up as 34DE and still making splash plays. This kid is gonna be a monster playing with a coaching staff that properly utilizes him and a strong supporting cast. 

Any pro comparisons?

[JoeyFlex5]

42 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Any pro comparisons?

I don't have one to be honest. He's still raw and undersized but he does well despite it. Sort of like an Anthony Barr but I don't really see a similar player. I haven't thought of a player comp yet

[usmccharles]

4 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I don't have one to be honest. He's still raw and undersized but he does well despite it. Sort of like an Anthony Barr but I don't really see a similar player. I haven't thought of a player comp yet

I cant wait to see what he has to offer.  We definitely added some pass rushers this year.