[News] Ravens Have Intriguing Options At Top Of Round 2

[BR News]

Linebacker Myles Jack, a few pass rushers and a couple top-notch cornerbacks are still available when the second round kicks off at 7 p.m. tonight.

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[harfordravenfan]

No pick will please all fans but we will get a great player at 36. Personally hoping for the best olb on the ravens board

[EliteRavens]

Jack or Spence

[fluffy201]

Lets get a great one. Still really need a pass rusher and a corner, more the latter. Would be nice to see them grab Spence/Jack/Alexander. Still alot of good first round talent left, so I don't think the Ravens can lose here.

[ellicottraven]

There are two really intriguing options as far as I'm concerned. Myles Jack and Noah Spence. Either of them could be an absolute home run with risk associated one for health and the other for character. So, let's pick the tastier poison and get on with it!

[eze17]

I would be happy with any of the DE's listed on this page. Seeing how we passed on Tunsil, I don't know if the FO is interested in Spence, although the situation is a little different. Biscotti said he wanted to improve our pass rush, here's a great position to do it.

[TheConquerorWorm]

Myles Jack would be a steal. He's ready to play this year (unlike Smith) - who cares if he may or probably will need microfracture surgery in a few years. Give me a potential Pro Bowl player for 2 years at close to the rookie minimum for a 2nd Round pick - all day long. He's an impact player and at this point in the draft all players are 50/50 on whether they even become a starter. You took the safe pick in Round 1, now take the gamble.

[eze17]

I am kinda surprised not to see Reggie Ragland on this list.

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, eze17 said:

I am kinda surprised not to see Reggie Ragland on this list.

I find him overrated. Good run stopping ILB, but terrible in coverage. Not sure that's the kind of player we want.

Naturally, we will probably take him.

[JetLife94]

I would love an aggressive double dip in round 2 possibly nabbing Noah spence, and a CB. Possibly Alexander, or Sean Davis..

[harfordravenfan]

8 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

There are two really intriguing options as far as I'm concerned. Myles Jack and Noah Spence. Either of them could be an absolute home run with risk associated one for health and the other for character. So, let's pick the tastier poison and get on with it!

Either of them would be awesome, backup plan of Dodd or Alexander for me (if there gone)

[reed20fence]

I think Jack dropped in part because of the 5th year option that 1st round picks get. No use investing that in a guy that self admittedly is down on his longevity.

I really really like Mckenzie Alexander. He's way mature past his 22 years and is an excellent shut down corner. I don't care about the lack of picks.

Also, I think Scooby Wright is worth a 3rd rd pick and not his 4th rd grade.

[sami]

I think Jack dropped in part because of the 5th year option that 1st round picks get. No use investing that in a guy that self admittedly is down on his longevity.

I really really like Mckenzie Alexander. He's way mature past his 22 years and is an excellent shut down corner. I don't care about the lack of picks.

Also, I think Scooby Wright is worth a 3rd rd pick and not his 4th rd grade.

He really wasn't down on his longevity, he simply stated most players only last 4 years. He didn't say he expected to only last 4 years or didn't care if he lasted 4 years he just stated a fact.

[fusuymada]

I think Jack dropped in part because of the 5th year option that 1st round picks get. No use investing that in a guy that self admittedly is down on his longevity.

I really really like Mckenzie Alexander. He's way mature past his 22 years and is an excellent shut down corner. I don't care about the lack of picks.

Also, I think Scooby Wright is worth a 3rd rd pick and not his 4th rd grade.

I think you are correct about Jack and most of the experts I have seen with updated 2nd round mock drafts have Jack going first. If we want Jack we are going to have to move up. I think a lot of the Ravens FO is interested in Noah Spence. I thought he would go quickly on day 2 as well but most mocks have him dropping towards the end of the second round. That is surprising to me. Many choices here with Spence, Ogbah, Alexander, and several other really top defenders still on the board. Picking 5th today is nice because we jump over Jacksonville on the even round drafts and they pick before us on the odd round drafts. I like picking early because I can go back to watching the O's game. Go O's, Go Ravens.....

[ravens4life86]

Steve B.. said "Pass Rush" we need 2 edge rushers to eventually replace a aging, possibly declining sizzle and Dum.

I also want to see Ravens use late picks to get back into 3rd get better players, and not all 9 picks will make the team.

Something like this..

Rnd 2(36) Noah Spence-Arguably best rusher in draft
Alternative-Myles Jack...if medical team says he checks out for atleast his rookie contract
Rnd 3-Yannik Ngkoue,Calhoun..maybe Ogbah Bullard slide etc

Then trade multiple 4ths,both 6ths
Get 2 extra 3rds.. get Braxton Miller/Sterling Shepard WRs
And Cyrus Jones,Zach Sanchez etc CB

[eze17]

Alexander worry's me...he may have been one of the best cover corners in college, but will it translate to the pros? NFL QB's won't be afraid to throw his way, especially if there's a big size difference between him and the receiver. And NO interceptions at all in 3 seasons? That was one of the few knocks on Ramsey, his lack of INT> and this guy has 0? If the Raven's are playing it safe this draft, go with Dodd or Ogbah.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Didnt know Kendall Fuller and all his brothers are from Baltimore. If he's there in the 4th somehow id take him, but right now is time to grab a pass rusher with a cpl elite talents on the board.

[Maurice0094]

Jack could be a great pickup at 36, I don't think there is a highly rated CB to take at 36. If Jack isn't there trade down to see if you can pickup some extra picks from a QB starved team (Bears and Chiefs). That being said if we trade down I wouldn't mind taking Jaylon Smith in 3rd. He's a excellent player that will produce after a red shirt year.

In the 4th rd cornerbacks like Cyrus Jones and Keivarae Russell could be developmental picks. I want to see Ozzie work this draft because in Ozzie I Trust.

[rmcjacket23]

28 minutes ago, reed20fence said:

I think Jack dropped in part because of the 5th year option that 1st round picks get. No use investing that in a guy that self admittedly is down on his longevity.

I really really like Mckenzie Alexander. He's way mature past his 22 years and is an excellent shut down corner. I don't care about the lack of picks.

Also, I think Scooby Wright is worth a 3rd rd pick and not his 4th rd grade.

Yeah, I don't buy this.

The 5th year option can't really ever be bad. If Jack dominates for 3-4 years, you get one more year of him at below market value, and depending on what his knee looks like, that could be his last year there.

So you have the ability to get a great player for 5 years instead of 4 at a discounted rate. There's really not much downside to it. Worst case scenario... he sucks or gets injured, and you don't pick the option, so you get the same 4 years out of him you would as a 2nd rounder. That's why its called an option... it can be declined.

Now, taking him early in the first or even in the middle is risky due to the price tag, but if you're willing to take him at 35, then you probably should have been willing to trade up to like 30 to get an option year for him, given that the cost difference isn't huge there.

 

[hen826957]

I wonder if Myles Jack slips to us in the second round take him with that pick. It would be great to have a tandem with Jack and CJ Mosley then after that trade back in the second round and grab Noah Spence next. Getting 2 two studs in the second round would be awesome and we got picks to do it but we gotta hope Myles Jack slips to us first. ?

[mc_red23]

1 minute ago, hen826957 said:

I wonder if Myles Jack slips to us in the second round take him with that pick. It would be great to have a tandem with Jack and CJ Mosley then after that trade back in the second round and grab Noah Spence next. Getting 2 two studs in the second round would be awesome and we got picks to do it but we gotta hope Myles Jack slips to us first. ?

I'd like to see us go for Jack with our 2nd. 

[ravensnj]

  51 minutes ago, eze17 said:

I am kinda surprised not to see Reggie Ragland on this list.

I find him overrated. Good run stopping ILB, but terrible in coverage. Not sure that's the kind of player we want.

Naturally, we will probably take him.

Most of his tackles are from behind, I believe he becomes a bust.

[rmcjacket23]

5 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

I wonder if Myles Jack slips to us in the second round take him with that pick. It would be great to have a tandem with Jack and CJ Mosley then after that trade back in the second round and grab Noah Spence next. Getting 2 two studs in the second round would be awesome and we got picks to do it but we gotta hope Myles Jack slips to us first. ?

I think fans are undervaluing the trade up scenario. If you're trading up in the second to get somebody like Spence... its probably going to need to be at least in the top 10-15 of that round, and possibly higher. I doubt sitting back until 20-25 in round 2 would work.

So if you wanted to move up to like #40 for Spence, and you already used your 2nd rounder, that'll probably cost you something like your 3rd, two 4ths and at least one more late rounder.

OR... a second rounder for next year.

Straight face... Spence is really worth that? The draft is the biggest dart throw of them all (especially in these rounds) and we're willing to give up at least 3-4 picks for one guy?

Sorry, I don't see it.

Edited April 29, 2016 by rmcjacket23

[The Greek]

still not sold on jack unless the doctors have said this procedure he will need in a few years has a high success rate and would add years to his career. seems like a gamble to me. i would move up to grab spence.

[Saxxin]

Spence would be a great 2nd RD pick. If he's gone and Jack is still there they should take a shot. So what if he won't last his rookie contract. It'll buy a couple more years to get a long term prospect.

[surfdude]

I love to roll the dice on Jack , but I think the Browns will take him. SO I would take Spence or who they feel is the best pure edge rusher. I like more pass rush rather then better coverage.

[ellicottraven]

54 minutes ago, harfordravenfan said:

Either of them would be awesome, backup plan of Dodd or Alexander for me (if there gone)

I'm hopeful right now that at least one of those two may actually be available. Jacksonville that is slated to take Jack picks right after us in the second. As for Noah I'm not sure. But, if you look at the offensive guard positions available, defensive tackle positions available and even DBs available, it is entirely likely that Spence may slip into the 40s. But, I truly believe if Noah Spence is available at 36, regardless of how much further he may slide, we pick him and retire for the night.

Moreover, we are the 5th team to be picking in the second. So, is Noah or Jack in the top 4 right now? Based on rankings etc., at least Jack, Robinson, Ragland, Spriggs, etc are all ranked ahead of Spence. So, I am very hopeful.

Edited April 29, 2016 by ellicottraven

[rmcjacket23]

I laid this out already, but lets look at the Trade Value Chart...

You guys want us to trade back into the 2nd round and get Spence AFTER using our 2nd round pick already. OK... so how far do we need to come? My money, to guarantee it, would be somewhere around #40. That puts Spence around a top 10 pick in the 2nd round (fair assumption I think).

Well, guess what... we don't have the picks.

If you combined every trade-able pick we have in this draft, they wouldn't come that close to reaching the value of adding a pick at #40? You'd have to give up a future year pick... likely at least a 4th rounder, but most likely a 3rd. And that's after giving up every single non comp pick we have.

Even if we traded up to #50, which is a mid-to-late 2nd round pick for Spence, the cost would be our 3rd rounder, our top two 4th rounders, and probably one more late pick.

So again, basically all of our non-comp picks. 

How do we really justify that happening?

[The Greek]

i am in agreement that the ravens should try and acquire another 2nd rd. pick and get better players.

[stixfix69]

picking 5th tonight is perfect as once a again we will get a top notch player who will have the opportunity to make a impact....IMO....we need a ILBer, if we don't get one in the 2nd or 3rd i expect Oz to sign a post draft ILBer....JMO....