2016 Draft Rounds 2 & 3 "Game Thread"

[spitfire418]

2 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

Yes because Pees sabotaged the draft.

Not referring to the draft. I don't like him as a coordinator.

Edited April 30, 2016 by spitfire418

[thieverycorporation]

I'm honestly tired of being let down in the draft. Love the team but De Costa and Ozzie need to be canned. I don't trust either because the decisions they make aren't normal and often head banging. So you have 5 fourths and? LOL 

Ridiculous.

 

[spitfire418]

5 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

It strikes me as safe, in a sense.  I'm not saying to go gung ho on some serious risks, but no playmaker types.  Solid, hard working guys it seems.

I don't like risky players either, but Myles Jack is a risk I would take in the second. No character issues is what I look for.

[Sizzlebshu]

4 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

My biggest gripe was that we have all these picks but didn't trade up using them. It's not like it would've been that hard to trade up as we actually saw teams giving up picks to move into the back-end of the 2nd, so I am not buying Ozzie's story about not being able to move up. What that translates to is that we didn't want to pay the price, which didn't seem to be that expensive to me. Then again, I will say that some of the worst picks I can recall were a result of a trade up, so there's that. 

I don't have an issue with lottery picks. I have an issue with wasting the premium picks or trading down when you have good players on the board. Myles Jack was a god send to this team at that point and the Ravens were too scared about whether hed get to his second contract that they forgot about his first. Flacco will retire at that point and we will probably suck because we don't have a qb anyway so ids the point in worrying about that. 

[charchboii]

What if all the players you guys wanted so bad were players they didn't want. Hmmmmmmm

[Static]

We have high picks in every round and still we've managed to not grab a single immediate contributor. We are not a team that has the luxary of waiting for production 

Edited April 30, 2016 by Static

[pitchblack_20]

Give these guys a chance. Just because we didn't pick the players you guys feel like we're the best available at the time we still have to deal with the FO wether we want to or not. I dont like this draft one bit either but I've also realized that this is what they do. These guys get paid to review these players all year and they know the most about the team and what direction were headed in obviously. So we just need to sit back and let them put their hard work in action and hope some of these guys were underrated to begin with. 

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

1 minute ago, pitchblack_20 said:

Give these guys a chance. Just because we didn't pick the players you guys feel like we're the best available at the time we still have to deal with the FO wether we want to or not. I dont like this draft one bit either but I've also realized that this is what they do. These guys get paid to review these players all year and they know the most about the team and what direction were headed in obviously. So we just need to sit back and let them put their hard work in action and hope some of these guys were underrated to begin with. 

Good point but we just cant have any more Elam's

[Sizzlebshu]

Look the fact is that there were very few impact players in this draft and most of those came with significant risks. The Ravens have 5 fourth rounders an can use them to get developmental guys or role players who they can groom into future starters or quality depth. Remember, Mcphee and Malik Jackson were late rounders. 

Development is just as important as draft acumen. 

 

That being said Correa was a reach and won't be much better than Shea McClellen. 

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

1 minute ago, Sizzlebshu said:

Look the fact is that there were very few impact players in this draft and most of those came with significant risks. The Ravens have 5 fourth rounders an can use them to get developmental guys or role players who they can groom into future starters or quality depth. Remember, Mcphee and Malik Jackson were late rounders. 

Development is just as important as draft acumen. 

 

That being said Correa was a reach and won't be much better than Shea McClellen. 

Yup... all we can do is play the wait and see game right now.

[thieverycorporation]

4 minutes ago, pitchblack_20 said:

Give these guys a chance. Just because we didn't pick the players you guys feel like we're the best available at the time we still have to deal with the FO wether we want to or not. I dont like this draft one bit either but I've also realized that this is what they do. These guys get paid to review these players all year and they know the most about the team and what direction were headed in obviously. So we just need to sit back and let them put their hard work in action and hope some of these guys were underrated to begin with. 

We've been sitting back waiting for them to flip that proverbial switch. I don't see instant coffee anywhere. You?

[TurkishRaven]

12 minutes ago, OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL said:

So heres the deal. We gave up on Noah Spence, to get Correa and a 5th rounder. Is that a deal you do as GM? Me, No

 

 

 

But the question is are you a GM? These people have spent their whole year watching tapes reading scout reports going from college to college, meeting with players. Harbaugh said when they met with correa they knew that he was kind of kid that fits us. he said 15 minutes was enough to make up their minds during the combine. 

So i say lets at least wait until we see them on the field. All these players are prospects now. No one knows what's gonna happen on and off the field next year. 

We all saw what happened to Manziel this year, they did not want to take the risk with Spence and Tunsil which makes sense. 

Edited April 30, 2016 by TurkishRaven

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

1 minute ago, Sizzlebshu said:

Look the fact is that there were very few impact players in this draft and most of those came with significant risks. The Ravens have 5 fourth rounders an can use them to get developmental guys or role players who they can groom into future starters or quality depth. Remember, Mcphee and Malik Jackson were late rounders. 

Development is just as important as draft acumen. 

 

That being said Correa was a reach and won't be much better than Shea McClellen. 

I agree with everything except the last part.. I said the Kaufausi pick was bad because Billings was on the board. Spoke too soon. At the very worst he provides a lot of interior pressure giving us more versatility. I'm not thrilled but not pissed either.

 

I like Correa but he has a lot to work on. I think there's a chance he develops into a good player. 

 

I like the direction it's going in. I just do. Stanley is a good LT prospect, Kaufausi is a good interior rusher, Correa is a good potential guy who I think could prove a lot of people wrong. It's not flashy but it's helping out in the trenches which needed improvement. 

[Static]

6 minutes ago, Sizzlebshu said:

Look the fact is that there were very few impact players in this draft and most of those came with significant risks. The Ravens have 5 fourth rounders an can use them to get developmental guys or role players who they can groom into future starters or quality depth. Remember, Mcphee and Malik Jackson were late rounders. 

Development is just as important as draft acumen. 

 

That being said Correa was a reach and won't be much better than Shea McClellen. 

Drilling a diamond out of  rock is much easier than killing dinosaurs and putting their bones under millions of pounds of pressure for 100 million years.

[Rockys]

Since everyone is complaining saying we can not draft anymore lets take a look at past drafts. 

 

2010-two good role players and two starters

2011- three starters and a few decent depth players

2012- two good starters 

2013- three starters and a few decent depth players

2014- two arguably three starters and a few decent depth players 

2015 (still to early to tell)

Edited April 30, 2016 by Rockys

[flynismo]

16 minutes ago, thieverycorporation said:

As usual this draft lacked high level brand recognition. Ozzie style to me Sucks. He hoards low level/small school quality and refuses to infuse our program with proven on tape higher profile talent.

You guys kill me with this mentality. Of our current roster alone, Flacco,  Yanda, Wagner, Webb, B Williams, Gillmore, Aiken are among the best players we have, and all were small school and/or low key players coming out. 

[TurkishRaven]

I am hopeful that tomorrow we will get what we need. Sherman was a fifth round pick. Why not.

[pitchblack_20]

12 minutes ago, ALSKAN RAVEN FAN said:

Good point but we just cant have any more Elam's

lol I'm with you 100%. I wanted a playmaker in the the top end just as bad as everyone else, but I also had to accept the fact that these guys know what they are doing. 

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

All I know is EVERY DRAFT PICK  is a gamble and we will be watching to see if the Cowboys and Jaguars got the steals of this draft with their 2 nd round LB selections  but that would be a gamble well worth the risk just think of Cody, Elam, the dummy who fell down the stairs cant even and don't even want to remember his name all wasted 1st and 2nd round draft picks by the Ravens WASTED PICKS.... Either 1 of those LB's would be worth the risk for sure. Just my honest opinion.

[flynismo]

15 minutes ago, Static said:

We have high picks in everyone and still we've managed to not grab a single immediate contributor. We are not a team that has the luxary of waiting for production 

Errm...Stanley is going to either take Monroe's job before we even hit preseason, or will take KO's spot, and as a rookie, will be better than Monroe ever was. KC's contribution will be limited by the simple fact that we have two HOFs already playing.

[Static]

Last year we waited until the 4th to draft a corner and we drafted Tr

ay Walker. (R.I.P) But I think we all remember he was far from being ready to contribute.

 

Edited April 30, 2016 by Static

[pitchblack_20]

Who is the most pro ready CB left ? As far as technique 

[Sizzlebshu]

13 minutes ago, ALSKAN RAVEN FAN said:

Yup... all we can do is play the wait and see game right now.

 

11 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

I agree with everything except the last part.. I said the Kaufausi pick was bad because Billings was on the board. Spoke too soon. At the very worst he provides a lot of interior pressure giving us more versatility. I'm not thrilled but not pissed either.

 

I like Correa but he has a lot to work on. I think there's a chance he develops into a good player. 

 

I like the direction it's going in. I just do. Stanley is a good LT prospect, Kaufausi is a good interior rusher, Correa is a good potential guy who I think could prove a lot of people wrong. It's not flashy but it's helping out in the trenches which needed improvement. 

 

8 minutes ago, Static said:

Drilling a diamond out of  rock is much easier than killing dinosaurs and putting their bones under millions of pounds of pressure for 100 million years.

3 quotes. No up votes make me sad. 

[mazlak315]

the way this draft is going the 4th round is gonna be just as much a guess as the 7th round usually is

with that said we usually draft pretty well in the 4th round (though i wish we would draft well 1-3 instead....)

players i still like for the remaining rounds:

Christian Westerman, Joe Schobert, Nick Kwiatkowski, Kalan Reed, Michael Thomas, Nich VanHoose, Joe Haeg, and Matt Judon

All hard working/high motor "safe guys"....which seems to be the way our draft is going

[flynismo]

1 minute ago, Static said:

Last year we waited until the 4th to draft a corner and we drafted Gray Walker. (R.I.P) But I think we all remember he was far from being ready to contribute.

 

That may be true, but it's irrelevant, how does that affect, say, Eric Murray? Is Murray going to not play well because Walker didn't progress quickly?

[ravensdfan]

15 minutes ago, flynismo said:

You guys kill me with this mentality. Of our current roster alone, Flacco,  Yanda, Wagner, Webb, B Williams, Gillmore, Aiken are among the best players we have, and all were small school and/or low key players coming out. 

We didn't draft Aiken and while he's improved, he's average. Flacco, 1st round. Webb, 3rd round. Yanda, 3rd round. Gillmore, 3rd round. B. Williams, 3rd rd. Wagner is literally the only one drafted lower than 3rd round. And we're now in the 4th with only Stanley as a potential starter. Even in the presser, they talked about the other two as role players, situational players. So yeah, they may have been low key but they weren't late rounds.

Stanley needs to be a beast & keep Flacco upright. Perriman better be everything we drafted him to be. Because our defense is garbage and we did nothing to help it in the immediate future. 2016 rests on the offense.

Edited April 30, 2016 by ravensdfan

[ellicottraven]

All I can say now is draft Andrew Billings in the 4th even if we need to trade up to the 1st pick in the 4th. Give up that 6th round pick to make it happen Ozzie. We need a nose tackle behind Brandon Williams. Who knows if we can afford him next year when he's a free agent?

[Number23]

I think the problem with the Ravens picks is the players they passed up on and the fact that they could've traded up in the 3rd with those extra picks. Even if Correa and Kaufusi turn out to be good, they'd need to be absolutely amazing to justify what we passed on. Same with the guys in the 4th round. A few solid rotational guys won't make up for losing Spence, Jack, Sheppard, Boyd, Bell, Mackensie, and others (assuming they pan out, which likely at least half will).

[ellicottraven]

1 minute ago, ravensdfan said:

We didn't draft Aiken and while he's improved, he's average. Flacco, 1st round. Webb, 3rd round. Yanda, 3rd round. Gillmore, 3rd round. B. Williams, 3rd rd. Wagner is literally the only one drafted lower than 3rd round. And we're now in the 4th with only Stanley as a potential starter. Even in the presser, they talked about the other two as role players, situational players. So yeah, they may have been low key but they weren't late rounds.

How about Jensen and Urschel?

[GrimCoconut]

Just now, ellicottraven said:

All I can say now is draft Andrew Billings in the 4th even if we need to trade up to the 1st pick in the 4th. Give up that 6th round pick to make it happen Ozzie. We need a nose tackle behind Brandon Williams. Who knows if we can afford him next year when he's a free agent?

The Ravens aren't trading up. Might as well accept that. It'll make life easier.