[News] Eisenberg: In Ozzie You Trust?

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The Ravens' pick of left tackle Ronnie Stanley isn’t exciting, but it's a classic Ozzie Newsome move.

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[b93333]

Was hoping for Bosa or Tunsil... I guess time will tell.

[ellicottraven]

Right Eisenberg. Absolutely right. Was I hoping it would be Tunsil this afternoon. Absolutely. But the minute I saw the video, I panicked that the Ravens would end up picking him because I was unsure the Ravens draft room would be checking out internet videos when they were making a pick! But, fortunately they did pick the best, safest LT in the draft. Perhaps one of the better LTs in a long time. I believe his demeanor and character will shine in Baltimore. A typical Ravens like pick after initial reluctance, I'm now all in!

[J.Flacco#5]

Please draft Myles Jack if he is available with our 2nd! I know the injuries but say he sits the year with the surgury and we pretty much make this pick a 1st rounder for next season where he can come in and play to his potential and be the good player I think he can be. I mean look at the second rounder last year Maxx Williams, I know that he is a TE and it takes at least a year for that position to develop but the way I see it, its the same type of thing. Whatever you do, hope it's the best pick!

Edited April 29, 2016 by J.Flacco#5

[ravens4life86]

Remember what the OWNER SAID...STEVE B.."Pass Rushers"

Not of fan of Stanley pick, when any number of defenders sitting there and could have traded back with Titans likeky. Lawson,Hargraves 3,Floyd, etc
I understand LT but when the owner says Pass Rush...get some Pass Rush.

Sizzle and Dum, are Old...need new cornerstones at the position starting with no.36..drafting Noah Spence,Ogbah,Chris Jones someone like that..

Then trading to get extra 3rd... and getting a CB, Cyrus Jones,Zach Sanchez etc
With other pick.. Yannik Nkoue,JordanJenkins

[TheConquerorWorm]

Remember what the OWNER SAID...STEVE B.."Pass Rushers"

Not of fan of Stanley pick, when any number of defenders sitting there and could have traded back with Titans likeky. Lawson,Hargraves 3,Floyd, etc
I understand LT but when the owner says Pass Rush...get some Pass Rush.

Sizzle and Dum, are Old...need new cornerstones at the position starting with no.36..drafting Noah Spence,Ogbah,Chris Jones someone like that..

Then trading to get extra 3rd... and getting a CB, Cyrus Jones,Zach Sanchez etc
With other pick.. Yannik Nkoue,JordanJenkins

Kind of hard to trade back when no one is calling to trade up. Titans knew they had a sweet deal with Cleveland knowing that Stanley or Conklin would be there.

Lawson is a tweener - he needs to shed some serious weight to play OLB in our defense. Floyd is a one trick pony that would only play on passing downs. Hargreaves is an undersized CB with no make-up speed. Stanley is a franchise LT, none of those guys are even close to that.

And with plenty of Pass rushers still available, the Ravens will do as Stevie B said and get pass rushers.

I would say a draft of Stanley, Spence, Cyrus Jones would be a fantastic draft for the Ravens.

[TXRavensFan]

Remember what the OWNER SAID...STEVE B.."Pass Rushers"

Not of fan of Stanley pick, when any number of defenders sitting there and could have traded back with Titans likeky. Lawson,Hargraves 3,Floyd, etc
I understand LT but when the owner says Pass Rush...get some Pass Rush.

Sizzle and Dum, are Old...need new cornerstones at the position starting with no.36..drafting Noah Spence,Ogbah,Chris Jones someone like that..

Then trading to get extra 3rd... and getting a CB, Cyrus Jones,Zach Sanchez etc
With other pick.. Yannik Nkoue,JordanJenkins

Guys like Spence, Ogbah, Dodd if you want a pass rusher, or Alexander and Fuller if you want a CB. will be a available when the Ravens pick tomorrow.

So, you can still get a high quality pass rusher in addition to potentially locking down the LT spot for a decade. So far this draft is shaping up well for the Ravens.

[TXRavensFan]

  54 minutes ago, ravens4life86 said:

Remember what the OWNER SAID...STEVE B.."Pass Rushers"

Not of fan of Stanley pick, when any number of defenders sitting there and could have traded back with Titans likeky. Lawson,Hargraves 3,Floyd, etc
I understand LT but when the owner says Pass Rush...get some Pass Rush.

Sizzle and Dum, are Old...need new cornerstones at the position starting with no.36..drafting Noah Spence,Ogbah,Chris Jones someone like that..

Then trading to get extra 3rd... and getting a CB, Cyrus Jones,Zach Sanchez etc
With other pick.. Yannik Nkoue,JordanJenkins

Guys like Spence, Ogbah, Dodd if you want a pass rusher, or Alexander and Fuller if you want a CB. will be a available when the Ravens pick tomorrow.

So, you can still get a high quality pass rusher in addition to potentially locking down the LT spot for a decade. So far this draft is shaping up well for the Ravens.

Forgot to add that there are also guys like Judon and Ngakoue that will likely be there in the 4th.

[Maryland]

Stanley is not an exciting pick, nor is he a value pick, but he fills a big need, and he has a high floor.

Day 2 and 3 will be the make-or-break for how this draft is really viewed 3 to 4 years from now.

[slowboater]

Is Stanley tough enough? Strong enough? How is he going to run block? Personally, I see them easing him into the LT spot next year..... unless Monroe is hurt again. Oh yeah. I guess we will find out soon enough.

[Drinkmore Beer]

Was hoping for Bosa, but once the Chargers took him at 3, the Cowboys took Elliott at 4, and you knew the Jags would snap up Ramsey, Stanley became the clear, logical pick. Now the focus has to be pass rusher and CB. Let's get Spence in Round 2 and a good corner in 3.

[VT3]

Couldn't disagree with this pick more. Apparently the Ravens are the only folks who had Stanley rated higher than Buckner. Deforest Buckner was perfect fit for this defense. Starting in 2009 with the move up to grab Oher, our drafts have not been good. In 2010 we allowed Dallas to steal Dez Bryant from us and then we drafted Sergio Kindle after allowing New England to steal Gronk. Matt Elam, Arthur Brown, Breshad Perriman, et al...our drafts have been weak. We needed a play maker drafting at #6 and we draft a soft OT who doesn't run block. Sounds like we just got a Monroe clone. We should have picked Buckner and it should have been an easy pick. Count me out of the "In Ozzie we trust" club. I seriously question the judgement of Ozzie, Eric DeCosta, Joe Ortiz and their staffs. This team is mediocre and that is their responsibility.

[ravenwildman]

Stanley was a bit of a surprise, I thought it would be Tunsil if a tackle was selected twitter feed or not. But, Stanley is solid. An excellent player that is sorely needed by position on the Ravens after the last few years of "will Monroe play or not?" each week. GO RAVENS!

[stixfix69]

Solid pick......Made sense to me, getting the top LT, as we saw the others go later in the 1st round, and we pick i think 5th today, and can get a stout defensive player.......

[billiejean]

Remember what the OWNER SAID...STEVE B.."Pass Rushers"

Not of fan of Stanley pick, when any number of defenders sitting there and could have traded back with Titans likeky. Lawson,Hargraves 3,Floyd, etc
I understand LT but when the owner says Pass Rush...get some Pass Rush.

Sizzle and Dum, are Old...need new cornerstones at the position starting with no.36..drafting Noah Spence,Ogbah,Chris Jones someone like that..

Then trading to get extra 3rd... and getting a CB, Cyrus Jones,Zach Sanchez etc
With other pick.. Yannik Nkoue,JordanJenkins

We are fortunate that our owner doesn't get involved with picking players. That never works out very well.

[OzzieBisciotti]

We should've traded back earlier so we had more picks. Instead, we got greedy, and the "phone didn't ring." The pick is okay, but we need corners, we need receivers, we need pass rushers. In fact, we need a lot of things- we've been hurt by poor drafts, bad FA pick-ups, and salary cap issues with dead money. I hate to say this, but we don't make the playoffs this year. Our best receiver will be 38 years old this year, we picked up a safety in his 30s, and a TE in his mid 30's. Why aren't we getting younger? We couldn't/ can't do anything because of poor cap management. Oh brother.. we are doomed this year..

[OzzieBisciotti]

I'm surprised we didn't choose a safety or tight end- we usually do every draft because we can't get this position right when drafting. At least we picked up a decent FA safety.

[Ravens07]

In a year or two I don't think anyone will have regrets. He will become a pro bowl left tackle.

[rmcjacket23]

8 hours ago, ravens4life86 said:

Remember what the OWNER SAID...STEVE B.."Pass Rushers"

Not of fan of Stanley pick, when any number of defenders sitting there and could have traded back with Titans likeky. Lawson,Hargraves 3,Floyd, etc
I understand LT but when the owner says Pass Rush...get some Pass Rush.

Sizzle and Dum, are Old...need new cornerstones at the position starting with no.36..drafting Noah Spence,Ogbah,Chris Jones someone like that..

Then trading to get extra 3rd... and getting a CB, Cyrus Jones,Zach Sanchez etc
With other pick.. Yannik Nkoue,JordanJenkins

Ironic that you say "trade back with the Titans", who were picking at 15, and then you list a bunch of players who were drafted before #15. Lawson went to Chicago, and Hargreaves went to TB. 

Lawson was the only guy available, who I generally like, but isn't likely be a premier pass rusher. I'm not sure he fits great as a 3-4 OLB.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I think Stanley is the perfect pick... and admittedly i hated it at first. He has played at guard, and think he will plug in at LG his rookie year like Ogden did and eventually take over at LT for Monroe next year. He's doesnt miss games, i think hes the most talented pass protector and we need to protect our QB... He needs to work on his run blocking, especially in a zone blocking scheme, but Castillo is the man for that job, and working at guard his rookie year while he works on his technique of blocking in space should help him long term. Now we grab Spence round 2 and walk with the best LT and pass rusher - call it a day. Round 3 if Jack is somehow still available (he cant be right?) and get 3 top 10 talents. If not maybe jay Smith is there in round 4. Cyrus, Day, Matekevich, Ngakoue (sp?), Scooby, Beavers, Boyd, and Drake are some later round guys I have circled and hope we can grab a few.

[Nexttime]

The Ravens will not get far without a quality LT and they have proven they can find quality pass rushers out of the first round. The four best non QB players: Bosa, Ramsey, Stanley, Buckner went right away, really surprised Dallas took Elliott, but that tells me they really wanted Bosa first.

It was a good pick.

[everythinginPAstinks]

i don't know if its Harbs influence or what but the ravens seem to want to build a team of scholars and bible salesman as of late. For years we were considered thugs and bullies of the league and i believe they are doing their best to steer the organization away from that image, but in the process they are bypassing serious talent in rout to building a .500 ball club full of sweethearts. Hey at least no one will challenge Harbs tho right! They will regret passing on Tunsil for a kid with average strength and feet and below average toughness

[Nexttime]

Couldn't disagree with this pick more. Apparently the Ravens are the only folks who had Stanley rated higher than Buckner. Deforest Buckner was perfect fit for this defense. Starting in 2009 with the move up to grab Oher, our drafts have not been good. In 2010 we allowed Dallas to steal Dez Bryant from us and then we drafted Sergio Kindle after allowing New England to steal Gronk. Matt Elam, Arthur Brown, Breshad Perriman, et al...our drafts have been weak. We needed a play maker drafting at #6 and we draft a soft OT who doesn't run block. Sounds like we just got a Monroe clone. We should have picked Buckner and it should have been an easy pick. Count me out of the "In Ozzie we trust" club. I seriously question the judgement of Ozzie, Eric DeCosta, Joe Ortiz and their staffs. This team is mediocre and that is their responsibility.

Remember Harbaugh is on the draft selection along with Ozzie, Eric, and Joe. Since the SuperBowl and Ray Lewis retirement the team has been on a clean image cleanse so the rowdy, tough, mean players are no longer on our board, guys like Burfict would have been a Raven before Harbaugh won the SuperBowl.

Time will tell, but we are not the same trying to go this Mr Clean route.

[mendii]

So, if Monroe stays on the team then the only opening along the offensive line would be at KOs old spot. Jensen plays pretty well, and maybe either Hurst or Wagner can kick inside. We really shored up our line with this pick, and I think our entire offense is now better because of it.

[ckarp34]

Super safe pick. I hate it. There was Tunsil at OL and everybody else. Stanley was at the top of everybody else. I don't care if Tunsil smoked weed, or took money or any other immature things, he's a kid in a giant mans body...he learned. He doesn't rape, beat or do any thug life things to really red flag him. The video is only going to get the best OT a chip on his shoulder and that is great for Miami. Truth will be know in a few years but WOW...I really am disappointed in out pick. The Ravens are scared of any risk now because of past media circuses. Sorry Ozwaldo...but I don't trust that pick guy.

[Ravenous_Ravens]

  3 hours ago, VT3 said:

Couldn't disagree with this pick more. Apparently the Ravens are the only folks who had Stanley rated higher than Buckner. Deforest Buckner was perfect fit for this defense. Starting in 2009 with the move up to grab Oher, our drafts have not been good. In 2010 we allowed Dallas to steal Dez Bryant from us and then we drafted Sergio Kindle after allowing New England to steal Gronk. Matt Elam, Arthur Brown, Breshad Perriman, et al...our drafts have been weak. We needed a play maker drafting at #6 and we draft a soft OT who doesn't run block. Sounds like we just got a Monroe clone. We should have picked Buckner and it should have been an easy pick. Count me out of the "In Ozzie we trust" club. I seriously question the judgement of Ozzie, Eric DeCosta, Joe Ortiz and their staffs. This team is mediocre and that is their responsibility.

Remember Harbaugh is on the draft selection along with Ozzie, Eric, and Joe. Since the SuperBowl and Ray Lewis retirement the team has been on a clean image cleanse so the rowdy, tough, mean players are no longer on our board, guys like Burfict would have been a Raven before Harbaugh won the SuperBowl.

Time will tell, but we are not the same trying to go this Mr Clean route.

It sounds as though you think this direction is a bad one. Burfict while a good player, has cost his team big at critical times. I can also remember dealing with similar issues of players trying to be bullies instead of just make the play and cost them 15 penalties at the worst time.

Toughness is only good and beneficial when you can control it. Anything else is just a ticking timebomb.

[Ravenous_Ravens]

I think Stanley is the perfect pick... and admittedly i hated it at first. He has played at guard, and think he will plug in at LG his rookie year like Ogden did and eventually take over at LT for Monroe next year. He's doesnt miss games, i think hes the most talented pass protector and we need to protect our QB... He needs to work on his run blocking, especially in a zone blocking scheme, but Castillo is the man for that job, and working at guard his rookie year while he works on his technique of blocking in space should help him long term. Now we grab Spence round 2 and walk with the best LT and pass rusher - call it a day. Round 3 if Jack is somehow still available (he cant be right?) and get 3 top 10 talents. If not maybe jay Smith is there in round 4. Cyrus, Day, Matekevich, Ngakoue (sp?), Scooby, Beavers, Boyd, and Drake are some later round guys I have circled and hope we can grab a few.

Well to be fair Stanley is already a stud at run blocking. Not sure where your getting that info from. Tunsil was the less run ready T.

Also, starting LT battle is already underway. All Stanley has to do is show he can be reliable enough and the job will be his.

Monroe I think has it much harder now. He will be playing to keep a starting job for now and possibly a job in the pro's period. Monroe's best chance of success is staying healthy because if he doesn't or isn't recovering quickly looks like Stanley will take his lunch money.

Big side note here though is that either way, Monroe is probably not on the team for next season. This is a nice surprise, because the extra cap savings will help to keep talents like B.Williams around for another contract.

Great move and positioning for the Ravens this year and long term.

[Ravenous_Ravens]

  10 hours ago, ravens4life86 said:

Remember what the OWNER SAID...STEVE B.."Pass Rushers"

Not of fan of Stanley pick, when any number of defenders sitting there and could have traded back with Titans likeky. Lawson,Hargraves 3,Floyd, etc
I understand LT but when the owner says Pass Rush...get some Pass Rush.

Sizzle and Dum, are Old...need new cornerstones at the position starting with no.36..drafting Noah Spence,Ogbah,Chris Jones someone like that..

Then trading to get extra 3rd... and getting a CB, Cyrus Jones,Zach Sanchez etc
With other pick.. Yannik Nkoue,JordanJenkins

Ironic that you say "trade back with the Titans", who were picking at 15, and then you list a bunch of players who were drafted before #15. Lawson went to Chicago, and Hargreaves went to TB. 

Lawson was the only guy available, who I generally like, but isn't likely be a premier pass rusher. I'm not sure he fits great as a 3-4 OLB.

Ironic you try to correct someone and do not get your facts straight.

Lawson was drafted by the Bills. Internet is great if you missed the draft. Lawson would have fit a 3-4 OLB just fine. He plays standing up and hand in the dirt. He is literally very similar to Suggs and has more moves than many other pass rushers from this years draft. If they had traded back to #15 he was the best choice talent and value wise.

[rmcjacket23]

3 minutes ago, Ravenous_Ravens said:

Ironic you try to correct someone and do not get your facts straight.

Lawson was drafted by the Bills. Internet is great if you missed the draft. Lawson would have fit a 3-4 OLB just fine. He plays standing up and hand in the dirt. He is literally very similar to Suggs and has more moves than many other pass rushers from this years draft. If they had traded back to #15 he was the best choice talent and value wise.

Obviously a typo (since I meant to say Floyd), but you already knew that before you typed it. 

Also a moot point, as is pretty much any sort of hindsight analysis. I do always love when fans pretend like trading is just super easy... just snap your fingers and you can move wherever you want and get whoever you want. Completely ignore the fact that it takes two teams (at least to do it).

Edited April 29, 2016 by rmcjacket23

[Ravenous_Ravens]

Couldn't disagree with this pick more. Apparently the Ravens are the only folks who had Stanley rated higher than Buckner. Deforest Buckner was perfect fit for this defense. Starting in 2009 with the move up to grab Oher, our drafts have not been good. In 2010 we allowed Dallas to steal Dez Bryant from us and then we drafted Sergio Kindle after allowing New England to steal Gronk. Matt Elam, Arthur Brown, Breshad Perriman, et al...our drafts have been weak. We needed a play maker drafting at #6 and we draft a soft OT who doesn't run block. Sounds like we just got a Monroe clone. We should have picked Buckner and it should have been an easy pick. Count me out of the "In Ozzie we trust" club. I seriously question the judgement of Ozzie, Eric DeCosta, Joe Ortiz and their staffs. This team is mediocre and that is their responsibility.

Regardless of your own ranking of the two players. It is safe to say they are both relatively close in value. So which player makes the Ravens better? Simple answer Offensive line. Cannot afford to have franchise QB getting injured and the defensive line is already packed with talent.

Either way your still basing your opinion on nothing but opinion. If pass rush is so important these days, then being able to nullify pass rush is just as important.