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[News] Round 1: Ravens Draft Offensive Tackle Ronnie Stanley

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57 minutes ago, Crusader said:

This team has no money. They keep giving big money over average players. Jimmy better play great or his contract will go into the O crap bucket with a bunch of others.

Pretty much right in the middle of the pack in terms of cap space with over $12M to spend.

Cap space isn't really a concern at this point.

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  1 hour ago, Crusader said:

This team has no money. They keep giving big money over average players. Jimmy better play great or his contract will go into the O crap bucket with a bunch of others.

Pretty much right in the middle of the pack in terms of cap space with over $12M to spend.

Cap space isn't really a concern at this point.

It is in getting Josh Norman for 75 million

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3 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

This is what separates you from an NFL GM. A GM doesn't just sit there and look for the one year prospect that will make you just better in the first year. They look for a player that will continue to grow and be the guy on your team for 10 years.

A guy who makes you better from year one will obviously make you better in the years after that.But you know how to think like a GM so who am I to tell you that LOL.

The Ravens have a hole at LG, a LT who can't stay healthy, and a QB coming off an ACL injury, but you can't see how Stanley makes them better this year? Ooooookay....

I guess that's the difference between you and me.I still believed in Monroe as a starter moving forward.He only played 6 games last year but it's hard to imagine that he'd miss almost an entire season for a second year in a row and I think he's a solid starter when healthy.If you already have a solid starter at a position then using the sixth overall pick on a guy who plays the same position doesn't make you better.We had and still have way bigger holes at each level of our defense.Deforest Buckner would've been a better way to use the pick.

 

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Just now, Crusader said:

It is in getting Josh Norman for 75 million

Why would we want Josh Norman for $75M? Kind of impossible for that to make our team better.

Another massive fan overreaction. There's teams with $40M in cap space that didn't want Norman for $75M.

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  8 minutes ago, Crusader said:

It is in getting Josh Norman for 75 million

Why would we want Josh Norman for $75M? Kind of impossible for that to make our team better.

Another massive fan overreaction. There's teams with $40M in cap space that didn't want Norman for $75M.

That's was the point of the conversation That"s what he wants and we can't. Anyway, who would be the top pick Ravens need at number two?

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You all are missing the point. Yes he could be a very good player that protects Flacco, but last time I checked Joe Thomas was one of the best tackles for awhile and how has Cleveland done...no playoffs for awhile. Look at Denver...an okay o-line but a great defense. We needed a pass rusher or corner in the first round and could of picked up a nice o-linemen later in the draft (Osemele and Yanda are great examples). Stanley may become a great player but he's not going to be the deciding factor that wins us games.

Flaccos knee being healthy behind a strong offensive line will be a deciding factor that wins us games.

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Offensive lineman are like spark plugs on a car. Sure they might not be the reason your car is pushing out 500hp. But your car isnt starting without them.

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4 minutes ago, Crusader said:

That's was the point of the conversation That"s what he wants and we can't. Anyway, who would be the top pick Ravens need at number two?

Best available defensive player on our board. Don't really care what position it is. Would prefer an edge rusher or a secondary player, but every level of our defense could probably use help.

 

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2 hours ago, HomeoftheBRAVENS said:

 

This isn't necessarily true, as far as your first point. Michael Oher made the team better in year one, but how about after? Conversely, KO had a decent first year and bad second year, but lights it up in years three and four.

I like Monroe, a lot, and I was very happy to get him, but he finished three games and refused to take a paycut to help the team prior to the 2015 season. He also missed seven games in 2014, including the playoffs. That's a total of 18.5 missed games (assuming he played half of those three games he left in) meaning has missed more games than he's played in, which over the past two years is 34 possible. Also, you're again thinking like a fan and not a GM because there's a hole at LG, Monroe is often injured, and Wagner is on the last year of his contract. 

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Well, let the comparisons begin:  Stanley made it to the team interview room and answered questions. Tunsil did not. Some claim of a medical condition, allergic reaction. Must be a smoke screen or are they trying to mask something? Stanley leads 1-0

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9 minutes ago, ravensnj said:

Well, let the comparisons begin:  Stanley made it to the team interview room and answered questions. Tunsil did not. Some claim of a medical condition, allergic reaction. Must be a smoke screen or are they trying to mask something? Stanley leads 1-0

Tunsil's interview was so uncomfortable to watch. 

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15 hours ago, billiejean said:

I am not sure why everybody is putting so much faith in Stanley. LT struggle in there first year in the NFL. He is going to go through growing pains. Its not realistic to think this guy is going to get in there right away and play at a high level. FA is over there are no cornerbacks worth picking up.

You do know that free agency isn't over and after the draft teams make a WHOLE lot of cuts due to cap space and whom they get in the draft. Some really good players get cut due to age, money, or coaching philosophy changes. Ozzie's had a pretty good track record of picking up some good guys this way.

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6 hours ago, ravensnj said:

Well, let the comparisons begin:  Stanley made it to the team interview room and answered questions. Tunsil did not. Some claim of a medical condition, allergic reaction. Must be a smoke screen or are they trying to mask something? Stanley leads 1-0

Like he said, man, you know, man, somebody hacked his team interview, man. Like he said, he don't know who it was, but at the end of the day that was two years ago man, and like, you know, somebody hacked his interview, man.

I think the fact that he has some person(s) out there gunning for him and going to great length to allegedly hack his twitter and instagram accounts to post those things about him is a red flag. The fact that he seems to overlook the issue that HE was the one who did these things and was stupid enough to get it caught on tape and to do it on his cell phone (which are not secured and why no government agency will conduct business on anything BUT a landline secured line) and instead blames it on the person(s) who hacked his account, like it is THEIR fault that HE DID THIS. Guess what MENSA member, if you never were in those situations to begin with nobody would have evidence of it.

Just like Johnny Manziel who doesn't understand why what he's doing now is a big deal. He did all this crazy stuff before he was drafted and he didn't change. Then right after that admits he made mistakes and would have done some things differently. Then after that threatens a guy who made some disparaging comments about him on Twitter to say it to his face and called him a nasty term for some female body part.

"Ya can't fix stupid..."

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  15 hours ago, billiejean said:

I am not sure why everybody is putting so much faith in Stanley. LT struggle in there first year in the NFL. He is going to go through growing pains. Its not realistic to think this guy is going to get in there right away and play at a high level. FA is over there are no cornerbacks worth picking up.

You do know that free agency isn't over and after the draft teams make a WHOLE lot of cuts due to cap space and whom they get in the draft. Some really good players get cut due to age, money, or coaching philosophy changes. Ozzie's had a pretty good track record of picking up some good guys this way.

yea roll players not starters or stars. there will be no josh normans available.

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Just now, billiejean said:

yea roll players not starters or stars. there will be no josh normans available.

The jury is out on Josh Norman anyway. He has one good year in a scheme that suits him. We don't run that same defense you know. Plus, even if we had wanted him he would cost a fortune and we couldn't afford him. A team is not made by 1 player.

And yeah, you can find starters like that. Hello there Daryl Smith, hello there Elvis Dumervil, hello there Steve Smith Sr., hello there Chris Canty, and that is just in recent history.

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  7 hours ago, billiejean said:

yea roll players not starters or stars. there will be no josh normans available.

The jury is out on Josh Norman anyway. He has one good year in a scheme that suits him. We don't run that same defense you know. Plus, even if we had wanted him he would cost a fortune and we couldn't afford him. A team is not made by 1 player.

And yeah, you can find starters like that. Hello there Daryl Smith, hello there Elvis Dumervil, hello there Steve Smith Sr., hello there Chris Canty, and that is just in recent history.

umm hello there we signed Elvis, Steve, and Chris in early March. Ill give you Daryl though. Picked him up in June, but to my point, none of those players were cut after the draft.

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"Tunsil would have likely gone third at the earliest, and according toOver the Cap, the third pick is slotted to earn a little more than $25.8 million, compared to approximately $12.4 million for No. 13. On Saturday, ESPN's Adam Schefter reported the Baltimore Ravens would have taken Tunsil with the No. 6 overall pick if not for the video and opted for Notre Dame offensive tackle Ronnie Stanley instead." -quote from Bleacher Report.

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