[News] Round 1: Ravens Draft Offensive Tackle Ronnie Stanley

[n#7]

  1 hour ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  1 hour ago, n#7 said:

They draft Stanley over a Buckner when their main pass rushers are in their 30's and one coming off a serious injury? Mind boggling esp afyer the owner said he wanted a PR. Maybe it's time for some new people in that FO!

Buckner is overrated. He had 10.5 sacks against marginal college teams. Jernigan is a much better pass rusher. And last I checked, the draft is not over - Myles Jack, Noah Spence, Ogbah, Dodd all still on the board - all as good as or better PR than Buckner.

Yeah, I don't get it. Buckner is a 5-tech DE, which in the Ravens scheme is a run-stopping position. The rush is designed to come from the Leo (Suggs), 3-tech (Jernigan), and Sam (Doom) positions. In fact, for those clamoring that the Ravens needed an "impact play maker" at 6, I'd argue that Buckner's position is the least impactful one in the front 7.

Drafting him that high would be like taking an OG with the 6th pick. Considering how some feel about taking an LT with the pick I find this "we should've taken Buckner" talk quite silly.

The vast majority of scouting reports had Buckner as a top 5 pick. One can rationalize all they want but they let the best legit DL pass through their fingers. The 49er's are already saying they couldn't believe their luck. Time will tell but don't bet more than a cup of coffee that we won't come to regret not picking him.

[verified]

im a little on the fence about this kid, he looks good on tape but in his game against boston college he got ate alive. Got push back so hard he fell down on 1 play, But he has upside i like the pick, I pray we get mckenzie alexander in the 2nd i was praying the steelers didnt get him, but you never know with ozzie

[Maryland]

Don't love the pick. Don't hate the pick. Seems like a finesse OT who is fast, but lacks power. He is quick (suitable for zone-blocking), but weak when power-blocking or stopping power-rushers. Though I view him as a lesser prospect than Tunsil, Stanley will work well in a ZBS, especially one that passes a lot more than it runs as Trestman tends to do. It's a good fit at a position of need, just not the value I was looking for. Would have rather traded-back and let either Tunsil or Stanley fall to us while gathering picks.

The indisputable positive from this move is no more worries about Monroe/Hurst protecting the blindside. That's a load-off my mind (and possibly the salary cap)

[EdTheMythicalOne]

Don't love the pick. Don't hate the pick. Seems like a finesse OT who is fast, but lacks power. He is quick (suitable for zone-blocking), but weak when power-blocking or stopping power-rushers. Though I view him as a lesser prospect than Tunsil, Stanley will work well in a ZBS, especially one that passes a lot more than it runs as Trestman tends to do. It's a good fit at a position of need, just not the value I was looking for. Would have rather traded-back and let either Tunsil or Stanley fall to us while gathering picks.

The indisputable positive from this move is no more worries about Monroe/Hurst protecting the blindside. That's a load-off my mind (and possibly the salary cap)

The Titans traded up to 8 to take Jack Conklin. Had we passed on Stanley he would have been gone by 8 and Tunsil went at 13. Nobody called the Ravens about wanting to move up either. So, I don't think trading down was realistic in your scenario because we would have dropped down too far to pick up Stanley or Tunsil later. We would have had a shot at Conklin then who will probably be a RT.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

im a little on the fence about this kid, he looks good on tape but in his game against boston college he got ate alive. Got push back so hard he fell down on 1 play, But he has upside i like the pick, I pray we get mckenzie alexander in the 2nd i was praying the steelers didnt get him, but you never know with ozzie

The Ravens will make him live in the gym. No doubt about it.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

  2 hours ago, TXRavensFan said:

  3 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  4 hours ago, n#7 said:

They draft Stanley over a Buckner when their main pass rushers are in their 30's and one coming off a serious injury? Mind boggling esp afyer the owner said he wanted a PR. Maybe it's time for some new people in that FO!

Buckner is overrated. He had 10.5 sacks against marginal college teams. Jernigan is a much better pass rusher. And last I checked, the draft is not over - Myles Jack, Noah Spence, Ogbah, Dodd all still on the board - all as good as or better PR than Buckner.

Yeah, I don't get it. Buckner is a 5-tech DE, which in the Ravens scheme is a run-stopping position. The rush is designed to come from the Leo (Suggs), 3-tech (Jernigan), and Sam (Doom) positions. In fact, for those clamoring that the Ravens needed an "impact play maker" at 6, I'd argue that Buckner's position is the least impactful one in the front 7.

Drafting him that high would be like taking an OG with the 6th pick. Considering how some feel about taking an LT with the pick I find this "we should've taken Buckner" talk quite silly.

The vast majority of scouting reports had Buckner as a top 5 pick. One can rationalize all they want but they let the best legit DL pass through their fingers. The 49er's are already saying they couldn't believe their luck. Time will tell but don't bet more than a cup of coffee that we won't come to regret not picking him.

We already have Brandon Williams, Timmy Jernigan, Lawrence Guy, Carl Davis, Brent Urban, and Kapron Lewis-Moore. I didn't hear anybody say that this guy was a premier pass rusher. I am not saying Buckner is a terrible player, but we had more of a need at LT and I'd rather take a chance on a franchise LT than a guy who MIGHT generate rush from the interior DL.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

If the Ravens want me to get the bad taste off my mouth, make a statement tomorrow Ozzie. Hope Myles Jack slips to us and the Ravens draft him with our second round pick then l want Ozzie to trade back in the second round and draft Noah Spence. Or if Myles Jack doesn't slip to us draft Noah Spence with the second round pick then trade back in the second round and draft Mackensie Alexander then if Jaylon Smith slips in the later rounds draft him then we got three potential good players.

So you want to draft two injured guys to make a statement. What statement would that be? That we're stupid?

[verified]

this might be ozzies last year as GM

[PolishRifle]

Mayock compares Stanley to Tyron Smith. Gosh, I hope he's right.

[creigle]

There are so many people on here that really don't understand football. Ignoring the O-line is foolish. Have you forgotten how Joe got hurt?? Let me remind your short memories. Monroe hurt......and a guy who obviously should not be a LT getting pushed back on every play when the odds caught up with him and he rolled on Flaccos leg. Even if they decide to give Monroe another try, does anyone remember a guy wearing number 75 playing guard his rookie year??

There will be a quality pass rusher, DT, or MLB still available with our first pick tonight. Whomever it is, at least one analyst will say "this guy could have went in the late first round".

[Ravens07]

It's not a sexy pick, like taking Mosley two years ago, but I think we'll look back at this as the right pick. This guy is a franchise left tackle and you don't get a chance to get them too often. He has great feet and balance, rooted by tree trunks for legs. He will maul in the run game and is a rock is pass-pro. I love him in his interviews. I'm not sure whether you cut Monroe now or plug him in at LG as a rookie like Ogden, but he will be starting day one. Really looking forward to it.

[Ravens07]

8 hours ago, HomeoftheBRAVENS said:

I can't believe we took a guy who will either be a backup or a left guard in his first year with the sixth overall pick.

Ogden started at LG his first year and he was taken 4th overall. Of course he's in Canton now.

[Drinkmore Beer]

Once Bosa was off the board and no trade back was in the works, it had to be Stanley. Much safer pick than Tunsil. Now the question is will the Ravens release Monroe in June to save big bucks? Can they switch him to guard?

[Bruce_Almty]

The myth of the Ravens always taking BPA is put to rest with this pick. Stanley is a solid player, but hardly the best in the mind of most.

[The Greek]

the right position was addressed at #6. need to keep the qb upright and a quality lt would not have been left in the later rnds. if they would have waited especially after the tunsil incident which caused a run at lt's early. i hope we keep monroe for this season as well. maybe stanley or monroe can move to guard until monroe is released after 2016. now lets address the defense.

[mc_red23]

Ozzie said once the draft started nobody rang looking to trade up to 6. I guess it's kind of hard not to take the safest pick in that situation. I feel content with the fact that we tried to move up to 4 for Ramsey (I presume?) but I also understand why the Cowboys didn't accept the trade in the end. 

Welcome to the Ravens, Stanley!

[fusuymada]

It would be nice to have gotten that flashy, playmaking corner or d-lineman that we were told we needed so bad but Monroe controlled this draft, not Ozzie. Monroe knew what he was doing by coming out with those crazy pot tweets last week knowing the Ravens can't trust him to try to buck the system and get suspended for using marijuana to treat his pain. He doesn't want to be here and after the Ravens basically saying he is done for by trying to keep KO, who would blame him. He knew he was headed out the door so he fired his last shot which forced Ozzie's hand. Ozzie may have kept him a year but with those tweets, insinuating he was going to test the system, we couldn't risk the suspension. After Tunsil's pre-draft twitter hack, the Ravens couldn't touch him after the Monroe pot issues so we ended up with the second best tackle in the 6th spot. WOW. No way in any imagination did we pick the best player on the board. Now that we just cleared about 5 mil in cap space by clearing Monroe, we will get 3 or 4 old, washed up pass rushers when they get cut by the teams they are on.

[thecommish]

It would be nice to have gotten that flashy, playmaking corner or d-lineman that we were told we needed so bad but Monroe controlled this draft, not Ozzie. Monroe knew what he was doing by coming out with those crazy pot tweets last week knowing the Ravens can't trust him to try to buck the system and get suspended for using marijuana to treat his pain. He doesn't want to be here and after the Ravens basically saying he is done for by trying to keep KO, who would blame him. He knew he was headed out the door so he fired his last shot which forced Ozzie's hand. Ozzie may have kept him a year but with those tweets, insinuating he was going to test the system, we couldn't risk the suspension. After Tunsil's pre-draft twitter hack, the Ravens couldn't touch him after the Monroe pot issues so we ended up with the second best tackle in the 6th spot. WOW. No way in any imagination did we pick the best player on the board. Now that we just cleared about 5 mil in cap space by clearing Monroe, we will get 3 or 4 old, washed up pass rushers when they get cut by the teams they are on.

or maybe with that 5 million cleared.... we have addressed two positions : LT and CB... when we can now bring in a legit CB and we did it in one move that leaves us much stronger overall for the next 3 to 4 years.

[thecommish]

Ozzie said once the draft started nobody rang looking to trade up to 6. I guess it's kind of hard not to take the safest pick in that situation. I feel content with the fact that we tried to move up to 4 for Ramsey (I presume?) but I also understand why the Cowboys didn't accept the trade in the end. 

Welcome to the Ravens, Stanley!

Agreed.... well said... TUNSIL ended up being the # 3 T taken in the draft and watching the debacle that was his press conference.... and the political storm that just started for him... I felt much better about our pick... just 7 picks later! SMH

[thecommish]

this might be ozzies last year as GM

LOL.... Ozzie is one of the most respected GMs in the league... ITs like when a coach wins the super bowl... they become almost legendary.... when a GM finds a HOFer..thats the equivalent- Ozzie has found at least 3 (JO, RAY, ED) and probably at least 4 (Suggs) in 20 years... and possibly 6 (Haloti and Yanda) - if any GM landed a HOFer every three years... they would be the most coveted guy around! Thats what we have in Ozzie and possibly better. R-E-L-A-X and give this draft two years.... and i guarantee that you will look at this draft with high regard!.

[thecommish]

Once Bosa was off the board and no trade back was in the works, it had to be Stanley. Much safer pick than Tunsil. Now the question is will the Ravens release Monroe in June to save big bucks? Can they switch him to guard?

I think that Monroe is gone.... we can use that 5 million to bring in help at CB and we addressed two positions in one swift move! Love it!

[J.O.14]

This is a good pick. We need to keep Joe upright, and have someone who can be reliable. I don't think this means Monroe is a goner, because he may end up playing LT this season and we put Stanley at LG.

There is a lot of talent left, including some pass rushers and ILBs. Do we take a chance on Jack? Maybe we take Reggie Ragland. Noah Spence? Emmanuel Ogbah? Who knows. I think we go defense today with both picks.

[throwback2000]

  47 minutes ago, Drinkmore Beer said:

Once Bosa was off the board and no trade back was in the works, it had to be Stanley. Much safer pick than Tunsil. Now the question is will the Ravens release Monroe in June to save big bucks? Can they switch him to guard?

I think that Monroe is gone.... we can use that 5 million to bring in help at CB and we addressed two positions in one swift move! Love it!

There are no impact CB's left anywhere this season. Monroe at LT, Stanley at RT, and, Wagner at LG this season.

[VermontRaven]

Solid, safe pic...not a sexy flashy pick, but a smart one. Smart teams build in the trenches. Now that they went with a safe pick in Round 1, maybe it's worth taking a riskier pick in round 2 with potential; perhaps Myles Jack or Noah Spence if they are still there when the Ravens pick

[billiejean]

They draft Stanley over a Buckner when their main pass rushers are in their 30's and one coming off a serious injury? Mind boggling esp afyer the owner said he wanted a PR. Maybe it's time for some new people in that FO!

what is mind boggling is that you think Buckner is a pass rusher

[billiejean]

Im not a fan of Stanley pick but I understand it. Need of Franchise LT for future.
My problem is STEVE B Screamed and let it be known "PASS RUSHERS"
So Ozzie better get a Noah SPence type Pass rusher at 36, cause Sizzle and Dum are getting OLD! Need cornerstone replacements.. in fact...probably should use picks to trade back inti the 3rd round... that way you get 2 LEGIT Rushers.
1 at 36, 1in the 3rd..like Yannik Ngkoue,Jordan Jenkins

im not sure why you think that Steve makes the decisions as the owner. He trusts oz to make the right decisions. When owner pick players things don't go over to well.

[billiejean]

  6 hours ago, TXRavensFan said:

  7 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  8 hours ago, n#7 said:

They draft Stanley over a Buckner when their main pass rushers are in their 30's and one coming off a serious injury? Mind boggling esp afyer the owner said he wanted a PR. Maybe it's time for some new people in that FO!

Buckner is overrated. He had 10.5 sacks against marginal college teams. Jernigan is a much better pass rusher. And last I checked, the draft is not over - Myles Jack, Noah Spence, Ogbah, Dodd all still on the board - all as good as or better PR than Buckner.

Yeah, I don't get it. Buckner is a 5-tech DE, which in the Ravens scheme is a run-stopping position. The rush is designed to come from the Leo (Suggs), 3-tech (Jernigan), and Sam (Doom) positions. In fact, for those clamoring that the Ravens needed an "impact play maker" at 6, I'd argue that Buckner's position is the least impactful one in the front 7.

Drafting him that high would be like taking an OG with the 6th pick. Considering how some feel about taking an LT with the pick I find this "we should've taken Buckner" talk quite silly.

The vast majority of scouting reports had Buckner as a top 5 pick. One can rationalize all they want but they let the best legit DL pass through their fingers. The 49er's are already saying they couldn't believe their luck. Time will tell but don't bet more than a cup of coffee that we won't come to regret not picking him.

Buckner is overrated. He plays high and gets blown off the ball. The last two DE to come out of Oregon haven't done anything. He will be a bust.

[billiejean]

It would be nice to have gotten that flashy, playmaking corner or d-lineman that we were told we needed so bad but Monroe controlled this draft, not Ozzie. Monroe knew what he was doing by coming out with those crazy pot tweets last week knowing the Ravens can't trust him to try to buck the system and get suspended for using marijuana to treat his pain. He doesn't want to be here and after the Ravens basically saying he is done for by trying to keep KO, who would blame him. He knew he was headed out the door so he fired his last shot which forced Ozzie's hand. Ozzie may have kept him a year but with those tweets, insinuating he was going to test the system, we couldn't risk the suspension. After Tunsil's pre-draft twitter hack, the Ravens couldn't touch him after the Monroe pot issues so we ended up with the second best tackle in the 6th spot. WOW. No way in any imagination did we pick the best player on the board. Now that we just cleared about 5 mil in cap space by clearing Monroe, we will get 3 or 4 old, washed up pass rushers when they get cut by the teams they are on.

Ronnie Stanley is going to have a rough season. Assuming that the guy is going to come in and play at a high level right away is crazy. LT struggle in their first year no matter where they are drafted.

[billiejean]

  1 hour ago, Drinkmore Beer said:

Once Bosa was off the board and no trade back was in the works, it had to be Stanley. Much safer pick than Tunsil. Now the question is will the Ravens release Monroe in June to save big bucks? Can they switch him to guard?

I think that Monroe is gone.... we can use that 5 million to bring in help at CB and we addressed two positions in one swift move! Love it!

I am not sure why everybody is putting so much faith in Stanley. LT struggle in there first year in the NFL. He is going to go through growing pains. Its not realistic to think this guy is going to get in there right away and play at a high level. FA is over there are no cornerbacks worth picking up.

[Brock397]

6 hours ago, TXRavensFan said:

Yeah, I don't get it. Buckner is a 5-tech DE, which in the Ravens scheme is a run-stopping position. The rush is designed to come from the Leo (Suggs), 3-tech (Jernigan), and Sam (Doom) positions. In fact, for those clamoring that the Ravens needed an "impact play maker" at 6, I'd argue that Buckner's position is the least impactful one in the front 7.

Drafting him that high would be like taking an OG with the 6th pick. Considering how some feel about taking an LT with the pick I find this "we should've taken Buckner" talk quite silly.

Why do you want Buckner??? We already have Brandon Williams, and Timmy Jernigan at the same position. Defensive line is one of the strongest positions on the team, Buckner would have been a waste of a pick, at least we need a LT since Monroe Is unreliable.