Welcome to Baltimore, Ronnie Stanley, Round 1 pick 6

[GrimCoconut]

12 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Tunsil has better footwork than Stanley though. Tunsil is better than Stanley in every way on the field, but he has never proven himself durable or a high character, and the difference between the 2 on the field was kinda minimal even if Tunsil is the superior talent. The issue always has been about his fire and commitment to football, but after he was drafted he seemed to be legit in those aspects.

Tunsil has stronger hands and plays nastier than Stanley but Stanley uses his hands just as well as Tunsil IMO and his footwork is as good as Tunsil's IMO. I think the only difference is that Stanley has a stronger lower body whereas Tunsil has a jacked upper body. Their physiques are inverse of each other as Tunsil's lower half isn't as awesome as Stanley's. The butt is where you want an offensive linemen to be the strongest because that butt is part of where the bend comes, and the power they need to engage DL when they come to support the run or to gain leverage and win against pass rushers. There's not much separating Tunsil & Stanley and I find them equally talented in terms of talent. The difference is the off-the-field stuff, which appears to be overwhelming for Tunsil. 

[PuRock]

4 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Tunsil has stronger hands and plays nastier than Stanley but Stanley uses his hands just as well as Tunsil IMO and his footwork is as good as Tunsil's IMO. I think the only difference is that Stanley has a stronger lower body whereas Tunsil has a jacked upper body. Their physiques are inverse of each other as Tunsil's lower half isn't as awesome as Stanley's. The butt is where you want an offensive linemen to be the strongest because that butt is part of where the bend comes, and the power they need to engage DL when they come to support the run or to gain leverage and win against pass rushers. There's not much separating Tunsil & Stanley and I find them equally talented in terms of talent. The difference is the off-the-field stuff, which appears to be overwhelming for Tunsil. 

We might as well put Andrus Peat in the hall of fame now.  

[GrimCoconut]

Just now, PuRock said:

We might as well put Andrus Peat in the hall of fame now.  

Lol yeah. Obviously the butt isn't all there is to playing OL, haha.

[JoeyFlex5]

34 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Tunsil has stronger hands and plays nastier than Stanley but Stanley uses his hands just as well as Tunsil IMO and his footwork is as good as Tunsil's IMO. I think the only difference is that Stanley has a stronger lower body whereas Tunsil has a jacked upper body. Their physiques are inverse of each other as Tunsil's lower half isn't as awesome as Stanley's. The butt is where you want an offensive linemen to be the strongest because that butt is part of where the bend comes, and the power they need to engage DL when they come to support the run or to gain leverage and win against pass rushers. There's not much separating Tunsil & Stanley and I find them equally talented in terms of talent. The difference is the off-the-field stuff, which appears to be overwhelming for Tunsil. 

I'd agree pretty whole heartedly with all of this but respectfully disagree about the footwork. I love the way Tunsil chops his feet and swivels his hips, he stays so loose and balanced and prepared in his base while anticipating the rush and it appears to be effortless, it's pretty impressive. That's not to say Stanley doesn't have great feet. I would agree about the hand usage being in Stanley's favor as well. Like I said I think the differences on the field are minimal.

[GrimCoconut]

2 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'd agree pretty whole heartedly with all of this but respectfully disagree about the footwork. I love the way Tunsil chops his feet and swivels his hips, he stays so loose and balanced and prepared in his base while anticipating the rush and it appears to be effortless, it's pretty impressive. That's not to say Stanley doesn't have great feet. I would agree about the hand usage being in Stanley's favor as well. Like I said I think the differences on the field are minimal.

What I've noticed is different people see these two differently. I've read reports and watched them both myself extensively and I'll say that I think Stanley's footwork is equal to Tunsil. I don't think one is better than the other. I only think that Tunsil has stronger hands. 

[rmcjacket23]

Ronnie Stanley - T - Ravens

Ravens OL coach Juan Castillo confirms No. 6 pick Ronnie Stanley will compete with Eugene Monroe at left tackle.

Monroe has struggled to stay healthy the past two seasons. NFL.com's Ian Rapoport has reported Stanley could see time at guard, but that's not the most likely scenario. Ultimately, we expect Stanley to open the season on Joe Flacco's blind side. Monroe could be released or traded for a late-round pick.

 

 

Source: Jeff Zrebiec on Twitter

Apr 29 - 2:20 PM

[GrimCoconut]

48 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Ronnie Stanley - T - Ravens

Ravens OL coach Juan Castillo confirms No. 6 pick Ronnie Stanley will compete with Eugene Monroe at left tackle.

Monroe has struggled to stay healthy the past two seasons. NFL.com's Ian Rapoport has reported Stanley could see time at guard, but that's not the most likely scenario. Ultimately, we expect Stanley to open the season on Joe Flacco's blind side. Monroe could be released or traded for a late-round pick.

 

 

Source: Jeff Zrebiec on Twitter

Apr 29 - 2:20 PM

I'd celebrate if we got a late-round pick for Monroe. That's how surprised I'd be. I'd almost rather keep him for depth purposes, but I recall concerns surrounding Monroe and his future here even before this, so I think it would make sense to trade/release him.

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, GrimCoconut said:

I'd celebrate if we got a late-round pick for Monroe. That's how surprised I'd be. I'd almost rather keep him for depth purposes, but I recall concerns surrounding Monroe and his future here even before this, so I think it would make sense to trade/release him.

Keep him through July, wait for other teams to cut players, and if somebody decent becomes available, cut Monroe and sign a player or two.

I think it'd be premature to release Monroe prior to seeing how the battle plays out.

Best case... somebodies LT tears an ACL in camp/preseason, we land like a 4th or 5th rounder for him in August.

[GrimCoconut]

Just now, rmcjacket23 said:

Keep him through July, wait for other teams to cut players, and if somebody decent becomes available, cut Monroe and sign a player or two.

I think it'd be premature to release Monroe prior to seeing how the battle plays out.

Best case... somebodies LT tears an ACL in camp/preseason, we land like a 4th or 5th rounder for him in August.

Yeah, I agree. No need to move him for less value now. Worst case Monroe keeps his job this year and looks good and stays healthy and we can flip him next year for a higher pick.

[rmw10]

A few things on Stanley.

1.  He sounds like such an intelligent guy.  Very well spoken and respectful.  He seems a little on the "boring" side but I think he'll fit in real well with the team.

2.  His voice continues to throw me off.  When you look at him, I feel like you expect something much deeper.

3.  WAG depth improved.

[TurkishRaven]

They asked Stanley if he is exited that he will be moving to Baltimore and is it hard to move?

The guy replied, he is thinking about the hard finals that he needs to pass next week.  

Made me smile..

[allblackraven]

3 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

A few things on Stanley.

1.  He sounds like such an intelligent guy.  Very well spoken and respectful.  He seems a little on the "boring" side but I think he'll fit in real well with the team.

2.  His voice continues to throw me off.  When you look at him, I feel like you expect something much deeper.

3.  WAG depth improved.

You sure about the order of these 3?

[usmccharles]

We really dont need to cut Monroe, we need the depth.  If Monroe is healthy does Stanley start at LG? 

[gtalk12]

He has shown improvement each of the years he's played for Notre Dame.....Guy is trending up...I like that. I read somewhere where he admitting needing to prove certain parts of his game to be better and he DID. A player who knows what he needs to improve to get better on his own? I like the sound of that.

[Deflated Football]

Questions about Stanley's passion for the game are about as dumb as the prospect in this years draft (can't remember his name) that was expected to slide due to his poor cooking skills. 

[Kinda_Dante]

57 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

Questions about Stanley's passion for the game are about as dumb as the prospect in this years draft (can't remember his name) that was expected to slide due to his poor cooking skills. 

Eli apple

[omar586]

stanley will be fine in B-more. just ease him in as LG than LT. he seems like young intelligent guy.

[allblackraven]

47 minutes ago, omar586 said:

stanley will be fine in B-more. just ease him in as LG than LT. he seems like young intelligent guy.

I don't really see the need to 'ease him in' as a guard. I think he is better as LT 10 times over. If that means Monroe is on the outs, so be it. Or make Monroe work at G for the money he already pocketed.

[Ravenseconbeast]

I knew tunsil wouldn't be our pick.  

 

Soon as bosa was picked, I thought I'd be Buckner or a reach of Stanley.

Stanley must be better than thought out, BC we held our guns to stay @#6 to pick him. 

[flynismo]

3 hours ago, Deflated Football said:

Questions about Stanley's passion for the game are about as dumb as the prospect in this years draft (can't remember his name) that was expected to slide due to his poor cooking skills. 

Or as stupid as Flacco having no passion, no leadership or "deer in headlights" 

[flynismo]

5 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

What I've noticed is different people see these two differently. I've read reports and watched them both myself extensively and I'll say that I think Stanley's footwork is equal to Tunsil. I don't think one is better than the other. I only think that Tunsil has stronger hands. 

Stanley uses his lower body, not just feet, better than anyone in the past few drafts, not just tunsil. What I wonder about is how he will handle the power of some of these ends and LB in the NFL. He'll erase most speed rushers though

[omar586]

2 hours ago, allblackraven said:

I don't really see the need to 'ease him in' as a guard. I think he is better as LT 10 times over. If that means Monroe is on the outs, so be it. Or make Monroe work at G for the money he already pocketed.

idk, this is the NFL. 

[JoeyFlex5]

I gotta say.. I think I was wrong about Stanley. At first there was no player I wanted less at 6(besides buckner) but I never said it was for on the field issues, his talent has always been undeniable. I bought into the rumors about a lack of work ethic, but He seems like a grade a character. If you put Joe flaccos personality into an extremely talented LT then Stanley would be the result. I love this kids attitude  so far and I think we absolutely got the BPA without a doubt. 

I wanna buy his jersey already. So here I am completely retracting my opinions on stanley

 

[K-Dog]

4 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I gotta say... So here I am completely retracting my opinions on stanley

 

***shock***

 

People are allowed to do that?!?!?!?

Unheard of !!!!

( around here especially)

[Gtown Purple]

16 hours ago, rmw10 said:

A few things on Stanley.

1.  He sounds like such an intelligent guy.  Very well spoken and respectful.  He seems a little on the "boring" side but I think he'll fit in real well with the team.

2.  His voice continues to throw me off.  When you look at him, I feel like you expect something much deeper.

3.  WAG depth improved.

 

 

He's half polynesian, that's where the respect and manners come from.

[GrimCoconut]

13 minutes ago, Gtown Purple said:

 

 

He's half polynesian, that's where the respect and manners come from.

And his dad was in the military. His life was determined from day 1, lol. Seriously, look at Haloti Ngata if you want to see a guy without much fire off the field who comes across as a really nice person without much of a mean streak. That's why I never criticized Ozzie for this pick because Stanley's concerns about his passion seemed overblown to me.

[ALPHA]

His pass pro is more Ogden than Walter Jones or Joe Thomas so he's still an elite level pass protector, but a really good rusher can set him up for an inside move and his recovery is average, one of the best things he does is make adjustments based on what his rusher gives him. His run blocking is fairly passive like most LT's.

[mc_red23]

13 hours ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

I knew tunsil wouldn't be our pick.  

 

Soon as bosa was picked, I thought I'd be Buckner or a reach of Stanley.

Stanley must be better than thought out, BC we held our guns to stay @#6 to pick him. 

We stayed because we had no choice. Dallas rejected our trade offer and nobody wanted to move up to 6.

[ALPHA]

22 minutes ago, mc_red23 said:

We stayed because we had no choice. Dallas rejected our trade offer and nobody wanted to move up to 6.

They countered and wanted to take Ozzie to the cleaners and he said no, we'll see who was right or wrong in a year or three.

Edited April 30, 2016 by ALPHA

[BmoreBird22]

57 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

His pass pro is more Ogden than Walter Jones or Joe Thomas so he's still an elite level pass protector, but a really good rusher can set him up for an inside move and his recovery is average, one of the best things he does is make adjustments based on what his rusher gives him. His run blocking is fairly passive like most LT's.

I disagree. I think he's got some of the best lateral agility and ability to recover to counter moves and stonewall them