Welcome to Baltimore, Ronnie Stanley, Round 1 pick 6

[JoeyFlex5]

On 7/5/2016 at 11:21 PM, Danny D said:

Clearly its a means of telling Tunsil he has to work hard for it.  Tunsil is not a guard, he is the best Left Tackle in this draft and its humorous how quick people here are to latch onto any little thread to try and believe our guy is better than theirs.

We will wait for the Season Performance and make our final judgements upon Mr. Newsome in regard to Stanley's performance vs Tunsil the man he could have had. We will not judge prematurely, but rather we will be patient and observant of the facts when they come in.  We will not speculate or delve into conjecture, but when the legitimate results are known, if Stanley is not the better player or worse is a liability, it will be time for all to call for Newsome's enshrinement in the Ring of Honor and his retirement from the Baltimore Ravens.  

Let the chips fall where they may.

Have you watched film on both? Tunsil is far from nfl ready. Lots of combination blocking and quick release plays that didnt allow vulnerabilities to show up. He is judged purely off of his drop back, footwork, hand usage, etc. And not actual real time performance. In terms of legitimate performance Stanley showed more, he was left on an island drastically more than Tunsil and have up the least pressure percentage in the nation iirc. He was blocking in a pro style offense and showed on tape what you want to see in a nfl tackle, Tunsil is a projection pick, Stanley is a now pick.

[Cillmatic]

2 hours ago, Danny D said:

They panicked .

The panic was the result of an aggregation of circumstances.  Significant among them has been the horrific recent First Round draft record. They felt they could not bust with their number 1 again, especially picking @ slot 6. 

The Baltimore Ravens use to have an edge. We were a tough physical team with some characters. They don't want characters any longer either.

Lastly, you gotta look real close at Newsome.  Definitely aging going on real fast now. Listen to him speak and compare his communication abilities to other GM's around the league.  But he can still pick a talented player right?

Now they say Stanley was always their guy. Ok....then they didn't settle at the last minute. Stanley was a deliberate, reflective decision, with plenty of research. This guy has to be the Naz.  If he's not the Naz something is rotten in Denmark. 

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ozzie+newsome+youtube&qpvt=ozzie+newsome+youtube&view=detail&mid=BCC819638E1DDE61DA10BCC819638E1DDE61DA10&FORM=VRDGAR

Notice how labored Newsome's breathing is before he even speaks.....he's charging himself up. 

Sounds like you haven't been a happy fan in years.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

2 hours ago, Danny D said:

They panicked .

The panic was the result of an aggregation of circumstances.  Significant among them has been the horrific recent First Round draft record. They felt they could not bust with their number 1 again, especially picking @ slot 6. 

The Baltimore Ravens use to have an edge. We were a tough physical team with some characters. They don't want characters any longer either.

Lastly, you gotta look real close at Newsome.  Definitely aging going on real fast now. Listen to him speak and compare his communication abilities to other GM's around the league.  But he can still pick a talented player right?

Now they say Stanley was always their guy. Ok....then they didn't settle at the last minute. Stanley was a deliberate, reflective decision, with plenty of research. This guy has to be the Naz.  If he's not the Naz something is rotten in Denmark. 

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ozzie+newsome+youtube&qpvt=ozzie+newsome+youtube&view=detail&mid=BCC819638E1DDE61DA10BCC819638E1DDE61DA10&FORM=VRDGAR

Notice how labored Newsome's breathing is before he even speaks.....he's charging himself up. 

This comment ignores history. 

When we picked Ogden, Phillips was the popular projection, a sure fire great RB with off field issues. Ozzie took the "safer" pick, not the "edgy" one. Ogden went on to be arguably the best LT of all time while Phillips played like 4 games and had a slew of issues.

Shoulda gone with that EDGE.

[Winchester]

On 7/7/2016 at 8:31 AM, Danny D said:

He's going to do well because the video that scared us away is not credible.  He's going to do well because the Dolphins had the type of talk with him, we should have had.  He's going to struggle with switching assignments at first especially at Guard. But he' going to be able to contain Suh when he's blocking him one on one. And he will clear road.

The tackle results may come in more slowly for Tunsil and that may be the delay in reaching the final conclusion. But they'll come in quickly for Stanley with the current plan.

I do understand your argument for Tunsil. Very athletic, moves easy and is very powerful and dominant through a very matured upper bod similar to tyron Smith. I like Tunsil and Stanley to be honest. I do acknowledge tunsil is  stronger, a touch more athletic and in better shape. Stanley needs to get stronger but his feel for finding position,angles, and blocking his opponents is better than Tunsils. it is what made him successful.  you feel Stanley could be as good as Tunsil IF he gets stronger and in better overall shape as his bod is a little soft. Keep in mind Ron Stanley was an actual college student working on an an actual degree. With classes, studying,games, practice,work he could not commit nearly as much time to the gym as he would of liked. Now he has Urschel to learn strength and conditioning and is already committing far more hours to the gym than while in college.

[Guest]

10 hours ago, Winchester said:

I do understand your argument for Tunsil. Very athletic, moves easy and is very powerful and dominant through a very matured upper bod similar to tyron Smith. I like Tunsil and Stanley to be honest. I do acknowledge tunsil is  stronger, a touch more athletic and in better shape. Stanley needs to get stronger but his feel for finding position,angles, and blocking his opponents is better than Tunsils. it is what made him successful.  you feel Stanley could be as good as Tunsil IF he gets stronger and in better overall shape as his bod is a little soft. Keep in mind Ron Stanley was an actual college student working on an an actual degree. With classes, studying,games, practice,work he could not commit nearly as much time to the gym as he would of liked. Now he has Urschel to learn strength and conditioning and is already committing far more hours to the gym than while in college.

I have to root for Stanley, but I'm livid we chose him.  I don't believe he is the guy we gambled he was. Hopefully I'm wrong, if I'm right, we are in for a long one.

But the gist of the issue is not Stanley and I really don't want to discuss him or Tunsil. Stanley will demonstrate what he is soon enough.  The issue is Newsome. If you watch that video, look how hard he is breathing. Listen to the slurring that is going on and it's a love fest interview. Newsome talks about his poor draft record. Even he knows he's dropped the ball but some don't know when its time to move on. Newsome is becoming less available. Hopefully for the Raven's future this thing isn't strung out too long.

Edited July 9, 2016 by Danny D

[The Raven]

13 minutes ago, Danny D said:

I have to root for Stanley, but I'm livid we chose him.  I don't believe he is the guy we gambled he was. Hopefully I'm wrong, if I'm right, we are in for a long one.

But the gist of the issue is not Stanley and I really don't want to discuss him or Tunsil. Stanley will demonstrate what he is soon enough.  The issue is Newsome. If you watch that video, look how hard he is breathing. Listen to the slurring that is going on and it's love fest interview. Newsome talks about his poor draft record. Even he knows he's dropped the ball but some don't know when its time to move on. Newsome is becoming less available. Hopefully for the Raven's future this thing isn't strung out too long.

Are you kidding me? Get real, dude. You're ridiculous.

[ludy51]

If we were to let Ozzie go he would be picked up by another team before he would get off of the phone with us.

[Winchester]

1 hour ago, ludy51 said:

If we were to let Ozzie go he would be picked up by another team before he would get off of the phone with us.

Not so sure about that with his age and recent record. But this draft could put him back on the map. Now Decosta will not be hired anywhere unless this draft really works out as planned. After all the failed drafts this draft has to strike gold. Oline has been one position management has drafted well at But then bad moves and contracts elsewhere caused them to lose its most prized young ralent. But Jensen and Urschel could replace him. Jensen is a future pro bowl guard. Not quite the length and dominance of ko but a very strong and tenacious mauler that will give defenses something to think about much like KO. KO sure believed Jensen is underrated and underappreciated!! Anyways oline is where I would first build a team. So I pull for an elite and overpowering oline. And like to see Urschel work hard and intelligent to tack on muscle and max out athleticism through smart training and nutrition techniques. And he is showing his linemates how to work harder,more efficient and effective. Ravens are light years in front of the league in that regard!! Some players do so on their own. But Harbs is smart enough to know every player has vast untapped  potential through efficient nutrition to maximize muscle tacked on during training. So you have Urschel who is quite a specimen for a center. Hard to name 3 centers stronger, more athletic and physical than the 6'3 Urschel that is nearly 320lbs yet lean 320lbs. Then former All pro Right tackle Wagner that is injury free now and is considerably stronger yet leaner than he was during his all pro season. Wagner is reported to of tacked on about 12-13lbs of muscle this offseason yet his weight is the same which means he leaned out and cut bad weight. Could anybody imagine Wagner more better than he played in 2014?? Then there is Jensen the most freakish of the interior oline players. He could do 30-35 bench reps b4 he was even much of a gym guy. At 330lbs his power and nasty style isn't much surprise. His athleticism and skill to handle left tackle if needed is a surprise. He is already naturally very strong but he is following KOs and Urschels lead and working hard. Then there is the 6'6 315 lb athletic and technically skilled Ron Stanley. He dominated through techniques and a naturally strong anchor at college. He was an actual legit college student and did not hit the gym as often as he wanted. He is slightly out of shape and needs muscle maturity. However he generated impressive power through skill, superior feel and instincts for blocking,positioning and  strong legs and hips. His bod is naturally bigger than tunsils but Tunsil has built up muscle. He is already working with Urschel to get stronger. His frame could hold 20 lbs of muscle without getting to muscular it cuts into his athleticism and movement skills. As a matter of fact as he gets in shape he will be more athletic and explosive. Ron Stanley could be the best left tackle in the game once he adds muscle. His technique is superior to that of Tunsil. So although bad contracts costed KO, management  has done the job of replacing ko. If Ron Stanley adds the strength he has everything else to be great. and the ravens oline has the legit potential to be the best in the league. So while I criticize management for its many bad moves. I will not root for anybody to get fired just yet. An oline is the base for a very successful qb and potent offense!! As well as keeping the defense on the sideline with energy for late in the game. And potent explosive yet balanced  ball control offense.

[ludy51]

10 hours ago, Winchester said:

Now Decosta will not be hired anywhere unless this draft really works out as planned.

You're joking right? You have to be.

[harfordravenfan]

27 minutes ago, ludy51 said:

You're joking right? You have to be.

I laughed when I read it 

[usmccharles]

34 minutes ago, ludy51 said:

You're joking right? You have to be.

Considering who it came from.....you know he isn't

[K-Dog]

21 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Considering who it came from.....you know he isn't

The exact reason I didn't comment. 

[Winchester]

Decosta the guy that ran the ravens into the ground if this draft,free agent class and season is a bust. If ravens have double digit losses again do you really think Decosta will be a hot commodity?? I'm not surprised you guys think that. Dude this board us going to get interesting when the realistic fans flood in if ravens have double digit losses CONSECUTIVE seasons.  If this draft doesn't produce impact and ravens lose double digits again Decosta is going to be Grbac 2.0. A lot of it rides on Ron Stanley. Because it will trickle down to the qb and team that  will not play well. The question is are you joking?? Do you want to be the dude that called Decosta coveted??

2 hours ago, ludy51 said:

You're joking right? You have to be.

 

[usmccharles]

3 minutes ago, Winchester said:

Decosta the guy that ran the ravens into the ground if this draft,free agent class and season is a bust. If ravens have double digit losses again do you really think Decosta will be a hot commodity?? I'm not surprised you guys think that. Dude this board us going to get interesting when the realistic fans flood in if ravens have double digit losses CONSECUTIVE seasons.  If this draft doesn't produce impact and ravens lose double digits again Decosta is going to be Grbac 2.0. A lot of it rides on Ron Stanley. Because it will trickle down to the qb and team that  will not play well. The question is are you joking?? Do you want to be the dude that called Decosta coveted??

 

The league is who labels him that with job offers year after year...

[52liveforever]

14 minutes ago, Winchester said:

Decosta the guy that ran the ravens into the ground if this draft,free agent class and season is a bust. If ravens have double digit losses again do you really think Decosta will be a hot commodity?? I'm not surprised you guys think that. Dude this board us going to get interesting when the realistic fans flood in if ravens have double digit losses CONSECUTIVE seasons.  If this draft doesn't produce impact and ravens lose double digits again Decosta is going to be Grbac 2.0. A lot of it rides on Ron Stanley. Because it will trickle down to the qb and team that  will not play well. The question is are you joking?? Do you want to be the dude that called Decosta coveted??

 

 

I honestly think our past two drafts have been two of the best drafts in YEARS. I don't know if it's a play off year, but I think we are in the cusp of a great few years. We had a drought draft wise for sure until recently, but it would be interesting to know which years Decosta had more to do with.

Edited July 9, 2016 by 52liveforever

[Winchester]

12 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

The league is who labels him that with job offers year after year...

Because the league credited him for a championship won with all pro players drafted a decade b4. That only needed to be filled with a couple solid pieces. When asked to reload the team after the championship he hasn't done so hot. No different than a coordinator with elite talent to work with becomes a hot commodity for a coach. These coordinators turned head coach rarely have even close to the success as with their former squad.  Whereas Decosta decided to work for the ravens as pretty much a co gm and the league got to see Decosta in action b4 hiring him. Like I said he may turn it around with this draft. But "if" this draft and free agents bust do you really in all honesty believe he is going to be a hot commodity??

[usmccharles]

2 minutes ago, Winchester said:

Because the league credited him for a championship won with all pro players drafted a decade b4. That only needed to be filled with a couple solid pieces. When asked to reload the team after the championship he hasn't done so hot. No different than a coordinator with elite talent to work with becomes a hot commodity for a coach. These coordinators turned head coach rarely have even close to the success as with their former squad.  Whereas Decosta decided to work for the ravens as pretty much a co gm and the league got to see Decosta in action b4 hiring him. Like I said he may turn it around with this draft. But "if" this draft and free agents bust do you really in all honesty believe he is going to be a hot commodity??

ok

[Tank 92]

lol....I've heard it all now.  We had double digit losses last year because of the previous years of drafting?  Oh my, just unbelievable thinking. 

Fact is if either Ozzie or Eric became available teams would be climbing over each other to sign either. 

[usmccharles]

13 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

lol....I've heard it all now.  We had double digit losses last year because of the previous years of drafting?  Oh my, just unbelievable thinking. 

Fact is if either Ozzie or Eric became available teams would be climbing over each other to sign either. 

But how, they draft terrible year after year and clearly there is better options out there

[harfordravenfan]

1 hour ago, Winchester said:

Decosta the guy that ran the ravens into the ground if this draft,free agent class and season is a bust. If ravens have double digit losses again do you really think Decosta will be a hot commodity?? I'm not surprised you guys think that. Dude this board us going to get interesting when the realistic fans flood in if ravens have double digit losses CONSECUTIVE seasons.  If this draft doesn't produce impact and ravens lose double digits again Decosta is going to be Grbac 2.0. A lot of it rides on Ron Stanley. Because it will trickle down to the qb and team that  will not play well. The question is are you joking?? Do you want to be the dude that called Decosta coveted??

 

Decosta would do a much better job If he lost 10-12 lbs and packs on 10-12 lbs of functional muscle 

[usmccharles]

4 minutes ago, harfordravenfan said:

Decosta would do a much better job If he lost 10-12 lbs and packs on 10-12 lbs of functional muscle 

I about lost it...

[K-Dog]

50 minutes ago, harfordravenfan said:

Decosta would do a much better job If he lost 10-12 lbs and packs on 10-12 lbs of functional muscle 

Quite possibly the post of the year.

[52liveforever]

1 hour ago, Tank 92 said:

lol....I've heard it all now.  We had double digit losses last year because of the previous years of drafting?  Oh my, just unbelievable thinking. 

Fact is if either Ozzie or Eric became available teams would be climbing over each other to sign either. 

 

I mean we did get in s slump drafting.

[Winchester]

1 hour ago, harfordravenfan said:

Decosta would do a much better job If he lost 10-12 lbs and packs on 10-12 lbs of functional muscle 

That was to funny. While we're on the subject you should do the same you would feel much better about yourself. It's summertime. Hit the beach guys 

 

1 hour ago, K-Dog said:

Quite possibly the post of the year.

 

1 hour ago, usmccharles said:

I about lost it...

 

[usmccharles]

Just now, Winchester said:

That was to funny. While we're on the subject you should do the same you would feel much better about yourself. It's summertime. Hit the beach guys 

 

 

 

Don't get me started man...so out of shape.  surprised you haven't started a Get in shape thread, seem to know things about nutrition where is the area of knowledge most people lack

[Winchester]

6 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Don't get me started man...so out of shape.  surprised you haven't started a Get in shape thread, seem to know things about nutrition where is the area of knowledge most people lack

Lmao I was gonna say Charles put that beer down and switch to vodka club soda. It's easy actually once you know what triggers you to eat junk. I may start a stock tips and fitness tips thread. If this draft class works as planned Decosta may actually grow some hair. He wouldn't be stressed out so much if he saw his draft picks getting stronger and in better shape. But I Ron Stanley is getting stronger as you post. He was to busy in college witb class,studying,projects,games,practice work. It is amazing he is so look good of a player considering all things!!

Edited July 9, 2016 by Winchester

[usmccharles]

1 minute ago, Winchester said:

Lmao I was gonna say Charles put that beer down and switch to vodka club soda

Im definitely a vodka guy...anyways, back on topic...my bad guys

[harfordravenfan]

11 minutes ago, Winchester said:

That was to funny. While we're on the subject you should do the same you would feel much better about yourself. It's summertime. Hit the beach guys 

 

 

 

I'm one of those guys that can't get fat.

I'm 6'2" and at 190 lbs. Work like a dog so rarely ever hit the gym, last time I did the trainer said I was at 8% body fat. Not bad knowing my diet sucks lol

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

19 hours ago, The Raven said:

Are you kidding me? Get real, dude. You're ridiculous.

But..but... He's an intellectual who speaks Latin and loves good coffee.

 

And Stanley had a cupcake schedule(despite the fact that it included USC and Clemson, two good football schools), so he must suck.

 

lol.

[Tank 92]

41 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Im definitely a vodka guy...anyways, back on topic...my bad guys

Belvedere please, splash of cranberry.