Welcome to Baltimore, Ronnie Stanley, Round 1 pick 6

[RavensDieHard21]

11 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

am I the only one just not seeing Stanley as a guard? I honestly think jensen would make a better guard. I fully believe he is our long term starter and that could begin this season. I think Stanley will be a top flight LT but I don't see the drive off the ball you want from a guard in his game.

I think Jensen is obviously more of a mauler, especially in the run game, but Stanley could also fit there his first season i think if he hits the weight room and dedicates himself. He would certainly give the LG spot an upgrade in pass protection, but it all depends on Monroe and what happens to him post June 1st. I'd rather keep him at LT and have the depth then cut him. I wish we knew what his current feelings are about the Stanley addition lol because I feel vets get sour when they feel team's are trying to replace them and it wouldn't help us if he became uninspired to play hard.

[usmccharles]

9 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

I am not aware of his exact routine, but I am a former college ball player and still a gym rat. Having a great work ethic and routine is great, but sometimes the biggest problem can come from a lack of rest, especially during the season. When the body is constantly under duress of lifting heavy weights, practicing, then playing in games, without proper rest, which many players during the season and training camp lack, muscles, ligaments, joints, etc., get worn down and are seriously prone to injury. 

Exactly.  Some people don't realize how important resting is when killing your body day after day

[JoeyFlex5]

12 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

I think Jensen is obviously more of a mauler, especially in the run game, but Stanley could also fit there his first season i think if he hits the weight room and dedicates himself. He would certainly give the LG spot an upgrade in pass protection, but it all depends on Monroe and what happens to him post June 1st. I'd rather keep him at LT and have the depth then cut him. I wish we knew what his current feelings are about the Stanley addition lol because I feel vets get sour when they feel team's are trying to replace them and it wouldn't help us if he became uninspired to play hard.

I also think the best bet is keeping Stanley and Monroe, if we cut Monroe then we're a Stanley injury away from hurst playing LT again. the savings on Monroe aren't that spectacular, not enough to take that risk.

[Clmraven]

14 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

am I the only one just not seeing Stanley as a guard? I honestly think jensen would make a better guard. I fully believe he is our long term starter and that could begin this season. I think Stanley will be a top flight LT but I don't see the drive off the ball you want from a guard in his game.

I don't see him as a guard either, I'd rather see Jensen there or maybe even move Wagner to guard and put Stanley at RT.

 

im not sure how our starting o-line will look come September, but I can't see Stanley not starting whether Monroe is here or not.

[trevorsteadman]

2 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I also think the best bet is keeping Stanley and Monroe, if we cut Monroe then we're a Stanley injury away from hurst playing LT again. the savings on Monroe aren't that spectacular, not enough to take that risk.

That is what I am thinking. I also wouldn't be against getting another tackle via free agency after June 1st. If Monroe gets hurt again and Wagner or Stanley get hurt then we have only a bunch of young guys to throw in there. Even if it is an average tackle at best it would be nice for depth.

[ellicottraven]

I don't think Monroe is going anywhere as long as he's healthy enough to suit up in TC

[Edgar]

4 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I also think the best bet is keeping Stanley and Monroe, if we cut Monroe then we're a Stanley injury away from hurst playing LT again. the savings on Monroe aren't that spectacular, not enough to take that 

I don't buy that Hurst is even on this team.  But I get your point regarding Monroe.

Make Stanley beat Monroe out in camp and have Monroe on the bench in reserve.

[BmoreBird22]

4 hours ago, trevorsteadman said:

That is what I am thinking. I also wouldn't be against getting another tackle via free agency after June 1st. If Monroe gets hurt again and Wagner or Stanley get hurt then we have only a bunch of young guys to throw in there. Even if it is an average tackle at best it would be nice for depth.

The team is very high on Deondre Wesley replacing Wagner if he were to go down or leave 

[RaineV1]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Ravens let Stanley start and Monroe be the back up to him and Wagner.

[jazz1988]

1 hour ago, RaineV1 said:

I wouldn't be surprised if the Ravens let Stanley start and Monroe be the back up to him and Wagner.

 That's possible but I don't think The Ravens are going to bench Monroe with out allowing him and Stanley to battle it out for the starting left tackle position. Monroe would make for a pretty expensive back up and it may not got well if he is ask to be a back up.

I guess The Ravens could try to trade Monroe  especially if he request to be traded but we shall see.

Edited May 6, 2016 by jazz1988

[RaineV1]

21 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

 That's possible but I don't think The Ravens are going to bench Monroe with out allowing him and Stanley to battle it out for the starting left tackle position. Monroe would make for a pretty expensive back up and it may not got well if he is ask to be a back up.

I guess The Ravens could try to trade Monroe  especially if he request to be traded but we shall see.

Well, yeah, of course there'd still be competition, and they'd want to see if Stanley is actually ready to be a day 1 starter. But it just seems like the Ravens don't have much faith in Monroe to be a steady starter for the team.

[Davesta]

I wouldn't be mad at all if Monroe starts week one at LT. Remember he is a solid LT, just can't stay healthy. We can ease Stanley in.? Just hope people don't start flaming him with "he can't even beat out Monroe for the starting LT spot."

[ellicottraven]

25 minutes ago, Davesta said:

I wouldn't be mad at all if Monroe starts week one at LT. Remember he is a solid LT, just can't stay healthy. We can ease Stanley in.? Just hope people don't start flaming him with "he can't even beat out Monroe for the starting LT spot."

I think if you follow these boards frequently you'll notice that this board comprises of people fairly intelligent much like yourself I promise. So, don't worry they understand the ramifications of letting Monroe stay at LT and easing Stanley in at LG or RT (depending on Wagner's health) to start the season.

[arnie_uk]

Monroe is a decent tackle when fit. It's probably a good thing if he starts left tackle. He's one of our 5 best, Stanley would be too, so he will be somewhere on the line

[RaineV1]

If the Ravens try shuffle things a bit to have the five best linemen out there, it'd probably go:
Monroe, Yanda, Zuttah, Wagner, and Stanly.

Out of the current tackles Wagner would probably make for the best guard, but it'd be tough for an RT to switch to guard and go to the left side. Yanda switching from RG to LG would be an easier transition. Then if Monroe gets hurt, the others could switch back to their normal positions, Stanley switch over to LT, and Jensen or Urschel can take over at LG.

Edited May 7, 2016 by RaineV1

[The Raven]

5 hours ago, RaineV1 said:

If the Ravens try shuffle things a bit to have the five best linemen out there, it'd probably go:
Monroe, Yanda, Zuttah, Wagner, and Stanly.

Out of the current tackles Wagner would probably make for the best guard, but it'd be tough for an RT to switch to guard and go to the left side. Yanda switching from RG to LG would be an easier transition. Then if Monroe gets hurt, the others could switch back to their normal positions, Stanley switch over to LT, and Jensen or Urschel can take over at LG.

 

Or we could, I dunno, be smart and keep the best guard in the league right where he is.

[Tank 92]

[Static]

You guys are underestimating how good Monroe is because of his health history. He was and has always been quite effective. 

[The Raven]

6 hours ago, Static said:

You guys are underestimating how good Monroe is because of his health history. He was and has always been quite effective. 

If you put a cone on wheels, it could probably run block better than Monroe.

[ALPHA]

7 hours ago, The Raven said:

If you put a cone on wheels, it could probably run block better than Monroe.

Well Stanley isnt much of a run blocker either, maybe that changes with a big payday but who knows?

Also I was a bit harsh on my criticism about Stanley looking like he doesnt work out, nobody can bench 225 or 24 reps without training, and he looked lean at the combine.

Edited May 8, 2016 by ALPHA

[Ravensfan23]

2 hours ago, ALPHA said:

Well Stanley isnt much of a run blocker either, maybe that changes with a big payday but who knows?

Also I was a bit harsh on my criticism about Stanley looking like he doesnt work out, nobody can bench 225 or 24 reps without training, and he looked lean at the combine.

The limited film(YouTube) I've watched of Stanley he absolutely dominated people in the run game. He did a great job moving bodies out of the hole, flipping his hips to seal off running lanes and he did really well getting to the second level as well as blocking in space. I came away very impressed with his run blocking. Can you point in the direction that shows he's not much of a run blocker? I only watched 2 games. Well actually 3, I watched him live vs my Noles.

[ALPHA]

23 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

The limited film(YouTube) I've watched of Stanley he absolutely dominated people in the run game. He did a great job moving bodies out of the hole, flipping his hips to seal off running lanes and he did really well getting to the second level as well as blocking in space. I came away very impressed with his run blocking. Can you point in the direction that shows he's not much of a run blocker? I only watched 2 games. Well actually 3, I watched him live vs my Noles.

Stanley is a lot of things but a road grader isnt one of them, hes a positional blocker. Try the Texas game

[The Raven]

7 hours ago, ALPHA said:

Stanley is a lot of things but a road grader isnt one of them, hes a positional blocker. Try the Texas game

Solid assessment. He's really good at taking the right angles and being in the right position to make blocks, but he isn't a guy that will consistently blow guys up. He will make blocks but he won't destroy people.

[RaineV1]

I think Stanley's style of run-blocking works for Trestman's offense. Since Trestman likes to run inside and use screens the tackles don't really have to create a lot of movement. He just needs them to neutralize the guy on the edge or to get out in space and stop a linebacker or DB from getting the RB on a screen.

[JoeyFlex5]

As long as we stick to stretch zone for the outside run game, and use the 1, 2, and 4 gaps often on the inside game, we will be fine. The 3 and 5 gaps may be an issue and we shouldn't try to run sweeps at all because Stanley doesn't get the push needed for 3 and 5 gap man runs and Wagner may not have the athleticism to consistently push 2 guys into the 2nd level and likewise Stanley doesn't have the power for sweeps. 

 

Luckily we haven't used many sweeps or 3/5 gap runs in the harbaugh era at all and probably isn't even really in the playbook unless it's a matchup exploit. We haven't ran a lot of those since JO was here and we typically favor the 2 and 4 gaps or stretch zones because we have had yanda and strong run blocking RTs this whole time. 

 

Stanley's run blocking may not be excellent but it works for what we have historically done with our run game

[Ravensfan23]

8 hours ago, ALPHA said:

Stanley is a lot of things but a road grader isnt one of them, hes a positional blocker. Try the Texas game

Imo you don't have to be a road grader to be a great run blocker. Not saying he's great. For me it comes down to 3 things in the run game for your OT.

1. Handle your assignment

2. Create a running lane 

3. Don't allow your guy to make the tackle. 

I don't need to see my LT blowing guys 5+ yards off the ball. So I can see why you'd say he's isn't a run blocker but for me he's more then good enough. 

[ALPHA]

I don't see major issues with his run blocking, few blindside tackles are maulers and as mentioned he moves better laterally and will fit our scheme. Maybe in short yardage situations he'll get blown up but he's not nearly as bad as Hurst and still has a lot of room to grow.

[Davesta]

I'm having a hard time finding this info, anyone know / read how much his bench press was? 

[BmoreBird22]

I'm not sure where to put this since the original thread got locked, but Laremy Tunsil lost his starting job at LG to Dallas Thomas.

I'm not sure if you all know anything about Dallas Thomas, but he might be one of the worst guards in the league, if not the worst.

It's unlikely Thomas holds onto that throughout the entire season, but the fact that Tunsil lost his job to Thomas and the fact that Stanley gave the Ravens the confidence to cut Eugene Monroe speaks volumes to those who criticized the Ravens.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

57 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I'm not sure where to put this since the original thread got locked, but Laremy Tunsil lost his starting job at LG to Dallas Thomas.

I'm not sure if you all know anything about Dallas Thomas, but he might be one of the worst guards in the league, if not the worst.

It's unlikely Thomas holds onto that throughout the entire season, but the fact that Tunsil lost his job to Thomas and the fact that Stanley gave the Ravens the confidence to cut Eugene Monroe speaks volumes to those who criticized the Ravens.

But...but...we forum members are smarter than Ozzie