Draft Day Mock

[trevorsteadman]

The draft is upon us and I am going to take my best guess at who we take in the draft.

 

Round 1:

1 - Los Angeles Rams: Jared Goff Cal

Most NFL ready quarterback. Probably not the highest ceilling in his class but the highest floor for sure. In the right offense he could produce like Matt Ryan with the right weapons.

2 - Philadelphia Eagles: Carson Wentz North Dakota State

The most strange thing to me is reading an article on NFL.com saying that the Eagles have had no contact with Wentz since they traded up to the #2 spot. Makes me curious to see if they throw a curve ball and select Paxton Lynch. If the Eagles select Lynch I see teams climbing all over each other to trade San Diego. But for now I will just say it will be Wentz.

3 - San Diego Chargers: Deforest Buckner Oregon

The Chargers are reportedly in love with Buckner. In my opinion BPA would probably be Jalen Ramsey but to get your defense back on track in San Diego you need to build your defense from the front to back.

4 - Dallas Cowboys: Joey Bosa Ohio State

Jerry Jones will have both Ramsey's card in his hand and Bosa's card in his hand before they make this decision. Cowboys love Ramsey's athleticism but sees him better at safety. Meanwhile Bosa is a hard working player who is only 20 with his best football ahead of him. They also need to fill the need of pass rush with the suspensions at the position and Hardy not returning.

5 - Jacksonville Jaguars: Jalen Ramsey Florida State

With recent news of Myles Jack I see the Jaguars taking Ramsey instead. He boosts their secondary as he can play both cornerback and safety. Great addition to this team looking to turn their defense around with Dante Fowler coming back from injury and multiple free agent signings.

6 - Baltimore Ravens: Laremy Tunsil Ole Miss

With the recent rumor coming out that Ravens were targeting Bosa and other pass rushers in this draft. They see that Bosa is off the board and will look for a pass rusher in round 2. Right now you have a quarterback coming off of an injury and you invested more money into his receiving core. With this signing the Ravens can throw the ball deeper with Wallace and Perriman. Tunsil definitely fills BPA. 

31 - Trade! Baltimore Ravens: Noah Spence Eastern Kentucky

The Ravens trade the recent Super Bowl champions a fourth round pick to move up a few spots to nab Noah Spence. The Ravens defensive coaching staff is reportedly in love with the guy and are looking at him in round two. In this scenario they bite seeing him fall and know he will be taken before them in the top of the 2nd if they don't move up. Denver looks to find a quarterback early in the 2nd with our traded pick.

 

 

Round 2:

Traded up into first round above.

 

Round 3:

Baltimore Ravens: Miles Killebrew Southern Utah

It may be because of my Utah bias but we seem to draft a lot of players from the state of Utah. Probably second most to Alabama. Miles Killebrew is a hybrid safety/linebacker who reminds a lot of people of Deone Bucannon from the Cardinals that was selected in the first round a couple years ago. Killebrew gives the Ravens that hybrid safety linebacker player that can cover and can move all around the field super quickly. He would be a perfect addition next to Mosley or next to Weddle. Underrated player and will be one of the steals of the draft.

 

Round 4:

Charles Tapper Oklahoma

The Ravens know it will take multiple drafts to find the replacements for Terrell Suggs and Elvis Dumervil. Tapper is an underrated DE and he may take a year or two to produce but is a solid player.

 

Pharoah Cooper South Carolina

The search for a Ravens receiver to produce #1 numbers continues. Steve Smith's retirement is coming soon.

 

Tavon Young Temple

Looking at Walter Football on where this guy can land. He is small but he can play. If it is not him I still see the Ravens taking a cornerback with one of their 4th round picks. What made me scratch my head is Davontae Booker being in the fourth on Walter Football. If that is the case (which I think he will be gone late 2nd early 3rd) then I think the Ravens may add another running back to their crowded backfield.

 

I know it is impossible to guess round 6 players so I chose to leave that up to the Ravens front office. 

Edited April 28, 2016 by trevorsteadman

[Alabama Raven]

I think your first two projected picks are very realistic. I'm "meh" on Tunsil at the moment, but understand the value behind the pick at 6 and fully expect that to be our pick if he's available. Moving up for Spence makes sense considering the organization hasn't exactly made their infatuation with him a secret. The rest of the draft I'm a bit disappointed in. I think we've got to find a way to take one of the early-to-mid second round CB prospects, even if we're trading up for Spence. We're in desperate need of CB help, and that's going to limit what we can do with the rest of our draft. One of Jackson, Burns, Alexander, or Fuller must find their way to Baltimore. We're horrendous at CB right now. 

[Jaybirds]

If Spence does fall to 31, who between 32 and 36 would take him?  I'm not sure why the move up is necessary.  He seems like good value there, I'm trying to gauge the urgency. 

I'm not sure we get Killebrew, Tapper, and Cooper.  Cooper especially seems like a 3rd round guy around the same area as Higgins and Lawler.  If we get all thre, GREAT!  But two seems like the max. 

So I really like your guys, just not sure about the when and the how. 

[JoeyFlex5]

11 minutes ago, Jaybirds said:

If Spence does fall to 31, who between 32 and 36 would take him?  I'm not sure why the move up is necessary.  He seems like good value there, I'm trying to gauge the urgency. 

I'm not sure we get Killebrew, Tapper, and Cooper.  Cooper especially seems like a 3rd round guy around the same area as Higgins and Lawler.  If we get all thre, GREAT!  But two seems like the max. 

So I really like your guys, just not sure about the when and the how. 

I think Cleveland and San Diego and Dallas are all very real threats to take Spence in the 2nd

[trevorsteadman]

10 minutes ago, Jaybirds said:

If Spence does fall to 31, who between 32 and 36 would take him?  I'm not sure why the move up is necessary.  He seems like good value there, I'm trying to gauge the urgency. 

I'm not sure we get Killebrew, Tapper, and Cooper.  Cooper especially seems like a 3rd round guy around the same area as Higgins and Lawler.  If we get all thre, GREAT!  But two seems like the max. 

So I really like your guys, just not sure about the when and the how. 

It seems like a wide receiver always falls a round than projected. I said it was Cooper but honestly I could see several 3rd round receivers falling to that area. I think Spence can get taken by all 4 of Tennesee, Cleveland, Dallas, and San Diego. All are terrible in the pass rushing department. If we can stay where we are and get him great. 

 

20 minutes ago, Alabama Raven said:

I think your first two projected picks are very realistic. I'm "meh" on Tunsil at the moment, but understand the value behind the pick at 6 and fully expect that to be our pick if he's available. Moving up for Spence makes sense considering the organization hasn't exactly made their infatuation with him a secret. The rest of the draft I'm a bit disappointed in. I think we've got to find a way to take one of the early-to-mid second round CB prospects, even if we're trading up for Spence. We're in desperate need of CB help, and that's going to limit what we can do with the rest of our draft. One of Jackson, Burns, Alexander, or Fuller must find their way to Baltimore. We're horrendous at CB right now. 

I think our cornerbacks are fine. We upgraded the secondary with Weddle. I don't think an early cornerback is necessary but it would be helpful. I think we wait until after June 1st to find another cornerback unless someone insane drops to us.

[Jaybirds]

Thanks both of you for the heads up on the Spence supply and demand.  I honestly didn't know, but maybe that's why I've seen Correa going of the board before #36 in some mocks. 

With that much urgency, I think this mock is a good example of where I would trade down instead of trying to trade back up.  If Tunsil falls to us, let's give the Titans a call and see what happens.  Getting an extra 2nd and 3rd round pick would make this mock really shine IMO. 

[trevorsteadman]

Just now, Jaybirds said:

Thanks both of you for the heads up on the Spence supply and demand.  I honestly didn't know, but maybe that's why I've seen Correa going of the board before #36 in some mocks. 

With that much urgency, I think this mock is a good example of where I would trade down instead of trying to trade back up.  If Tunsil falls to us, let's give the Titans a call and see what happens.  Getting an extra 2nd and 3rd round pick would make this mock really shine IMO. 

I like a lot of 2nd and 3rd round picks in this draft but I love Tunsil. He could be our next Johnathan Ogden. We need that to really open up our offense. I'm afraid a lot of people are forgetting what happened when our o-line was not improved before the 2013 season. I think the Ravens that year played worse than the Ravens this last season despite what the records show. And we have yet to get a Kelechi Osemele replacement. Add on top of that the whole Monroe-Ravens relationship is getting really salty. A lot of negatives being said about his injuries and him supporting marijuana makes me scared he is a drug test away from being suspended.

[Jaybirds]

3 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

I like a lot of 2nd and 3rd round picks in this draft but I love Tunsil. He could be our next Johnathan Ogden. We need that to really open up our offense. I'm afraid a lot of people are forgetting what happened when our o-line was not improved before the 2013 season. I think the Ravens that year played worse than the Ravens this last season despite what the records show. And we have yet to get a Kelechi Osemele replacement. Add on top of that the whole Monroe-Ravens relationship is getting really salty. A lot of negatives being said about his injuries and him supporting marijuana makes me scared he is a drug test away from being suspended.

I pretty much agree.  I think improving the line (or even just keeping it healthy!) will go a long way towards improving the entire offense.  That alone could put us back at 8-8 next year. 

It's weird, but I'm getting the impression that Tunsil just isn't that big of a priority for us, though.  There's been so many quotes from the front office about pass rushers early on.  I really think that's the direction we go in the first round.  I think we do bolster the line later in the draft. (and I think we get a released vet before Week 1).  But there's guys later on that seem to fit our plan more.   So I'm looking at guys like Whitehair, Ifedi, Nick Martin, Ryan Kelly, Josh Garnett,  and Willie Beavers..... all guys we could add with one or two extra picks.  Maybe they don't start behind Monroe and Jensen early on, but they can contribute and grow into a long-term role. 

Hopefully that makes sense. 

[RavensDieHard21]

Tunsil and Spence after tonight would send me to sleep dreaming of the playoffs ahaha. I love Kilibrew a lot, but not at 70 personally. We already have a ton of young guys still trying to prove themselves.

[trevorsteadman]

13 minutes ago, Jaybirds said:

I pretty much agree.  I think improving the line (or even just keeping it healthy!) will go a long way towards improving the entire offense.  That alone could put us back at 8-8 next year. 

It's weird, but I'm getting the impression that Tunsil just isn't that big of a priority for us, though.  There's been so many quotes from the front office about pass rushers early on.  I really think that's the direction we go in the first round.  I think we do bolster the line later in the draft. (and I think we get a released vet before Week 1).  But there's guys later on that seem to fit our plan more.   So I'm looking at guys like Whitehair, Ifedi, Nick Martin, Ryan Kelly, Josh Garnett,  and Willie Beavers..... all guys we could add with one or two extra picks.  Maybe they don't start behind Monroe and Jensen early on, but they can contribute and grow into a long-term role. 

Hopefully that makes sense. 

I can see that happening as well. I think they may be serious about the pass rushers but I'm not sure how they rank Tunsil. If he is up on their board just like everyone elses board he may snatch him. I still think even if we got Tunsil we would sign a veteran post June 1st.

[trevorsteadman]

10 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Tunsil and Spence after tonight would send me to sleep dreaming of the playoffs ahaha. I love Kilibrew a lot, but not at 70 personally. We already have a ton of young guys still trying to prove themselves.

I think Killebrew will be taken before any of our 4th round selections and that is why I have him high. Then again we scratched our heads when we drafted Brandon Williams and Crockett Gillmore and both have become really good starters for us.

[Sizzlebshu]

This movie was terrible

[trevorsteadman]

1 minute ago, Sizzlebshu said:

This movie was terrible

Next time I will name it something else I didn't even think about the movie haha.

[Jaybirds]

Just now, trevorsteadman said:

I can see that happening as well. I think they may be serious about the pass rushers but I'm not sure how they rank Tunsil. If he is up on their board just like everyone elses board he may snatch him. I still think even if we got Tunsil we would sign a veteran post June 1st.

The only reason I can think of him being lower than 2nd (behind Bosa maybe) is if we're worried about his health.  He does have an injury history, and we already have Monroe for that.  But I agree, if he's there I won't be surprised if we take him.  Oh,  maybe that's the answer?  We're acting like we won't take him because we don't think he falls that far?

[trevorsteadman]

Just now, Jaybirds said:

The only reason I can think of him being lower than 2nd (behind Bosa maybe) is if we're worried about his health.  He does have an injury history, and we already have Monroe for that.  But I agree, if he's there I won't be surprised if we take him.  Oh,  maybe that's the answer?  We're acting like we won't take him because we don't think he falls that far?

It may be a smokescreen the Jaguars and Chargers both need help at the position. I don't care if they both already have two tackles he would be a huge upgrade and they could move one of their tackles to guard which is an easy move. I agree we may take Bosa or Ramsey before him but I still see Tunsil at least as the #3 on our board. Tunsil wasn't even a remote possibility a month ago and now theres a chance.

[Jaybirds]

1 minute ago, trevorsteadman said:

It may be a smokescreen the Jaguars and Chargers both need help at the position. I don't care if they both already have two tackles he would be a huge upgrade and they could move one of their tackles to guard which is an easy move. I agree we may take Bosa or Ramsey before him but I still see Tunsil at least as the #3 on our board. Tunsil wasn't even a remote possibility a month ago and now theres a chance.

Definitely a better chance than a month ago.   But maybe not as good as last week:  I wonder if the Jags now have Tunsil above Jack's knee.  So even if the Chargers don't take Tunsil, there could be a horrible chance of him getting to us.  This is a stretch, but that could possibly maybe explain why we started hyping Zeke Elliott the past few days.

[trevorsteadman]

Just now, Jaybirds said:

Definitely a better chance than a month ago.   But maybe not as good as last week:  I wonder if the Jags now have Tunsil above Jack's knee.  So even if the Chargers don't take Tunsil, there could be a horrible chance of him getting to us.  This is a stretch, but that could possibly maybe explain why we started hyping Zeke Elliott the past few days.

It is exactly why the Ezekiel Elliot hype started. We want players to fall to us. We just have to pray that someone gets taken not named Tunsil, Ramsey, or Bosa before us and we will be set.

[Jaybirds]

2 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

It is exactly why the Ezekiel Elliot hype started. We want players to fall to us. We just have to pray that someone gets taken not named Tunsil, Ramsey, or Bosa before us and we will be set.

Yeaaaaah, I think that's exactly what won't happen.   Ramsey to Chargers, Bosa to Dallas, and Tunsil to Jacksonville just seems too likely.   Our entire draft may rest on San Diego taking Buckner instead of Ramsey. 

Would anyone trade up with us for Elliott, Buckner, or Stanley?  Doesn't seem like it.  Maybe Miami for Elliott if they believe our bluff. 

[numerounopapi]

Ramsey is going to Dallas not Bosa. 

[Jaybirds]

7 minutes ago, numerounopapi said:

Ramsey is going to Dallas not Bosa. 

San Diego might disagree with you. 

[numerounopapi]

4 minutes ago, Jaybirds said:

San Diego might disagree with you. 

Keyword - "might" 

[Jaybirds]

1 minute ago, numerounopapi said:

Keyword - "might" 

That still gives me much better odds than "Ramsey IS going to Dallas".  

Edited April 28, 2016 by Jaybirds

[Jaybirds]

Okay, catching up on the Rumor Mill thread.  At least I see where you're coming from with that prediction now.  Sucks that you're too busy today to provide a link yourself. 

I'm really surprised Dallas isn't looking at Bosa.  But it sounds like Dallas isn't looking at Bosa. 

[itscbm5042]

Here is a crazy one...

The proposed Ravens / Titans trade happens and the Ravens move to 15 in exchange for the Titan's 2nd and 5th (wanna move, gotta pay up)

Ravens have 15, 33, 36, 70, 104, 132, 143, 140, 182, 209,

Myles Jack, Noah Spence, Kendall Fuller and then just crush the 4th round

Edited April 28, 2016 by itscbm5042

[beanfigger]

1 minute ago, itscbm5042 said:

Here is a crazy one...

The proposed Ravens / Titans trade happens and the Ravens move to 15 in exchange for the Titan's 2nd and 4th (wanna move, gotta pay up)

Ravens have 15, 33, 36,

Myles Jack, Noah Spence, Kendall Fuller

Even better, they give us 15, 43, and 76. We throw in a 4th. Then, we have #15, 2 2nds, 2 3rds, 3 4ths.

[JoeyFlex5]

3 hours ago, trevorsteadman said:

It is exactly why the Ezekiel Elliot hype started. We want players to fall to us. We just have to pray that someone gets taken not named Tunsil, Ramsey, or Bosa before us and we will be set.

The zeke hype to Dallas started legitimately. We didn't create those rumors, it's been a thought around the entire nfl world for a while now

[Jaybirds]

3 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

The zeke hype to Dallas started legitimately. We didn't create those rumors, it's been a thought around the entire nfl world for a while now

Right,  not that Zeke hype.  The "he won't make it past 6" to SF or Cleveland Zeke hype.    I think we were threatening the Dolphins. 

Edited April 28, 2016 by Jaybirds

[itscbm5042]

18 minutes ago, beanfigger said:

Even better, they give us 15, 43, and 76. We throw in a 4th. Then, we have #15, 2 2nds, 2 3rds, 3 4ths.

That would be insane but there is a big drop off between the beginning of the 2nd round and mid 2nd round - we don't need to stock the farm we need a few high impact starters and then find some 4th round gems like we often do. I'd throw in a 3rd to get that early 2nd rounder

 

What about 6 and 70 for 15, 33, 45 so we would end up with 15, 33, 36, 45,

Titans get their top rated player they would have taken at #1, an extra 2nd, and an extra 1st next year and we stock up in the 2nd round on starters. Now THAT could do some damage!

Edited April 28, 2016 by itscbm5042

[beanfigger]

16 minutes ago, itscbm5042 said:

That would be insane but there is a big drop off between the beginning of the 2nd round and mid 2nd round - we don't need to stock the farm we need a few high impact starters and then find some 4th round gems like we often do. I'd throw in a 3rd to get that early 2nd rounder

 

What about 6 and 70 for 15, 33, 45 so we would end up with 15, 33, 36, 45,

Titans get their top rated player they would have taken at #1, an extra 2nd, and an extra 1st next year and we stock up in the 2nd round on starters. Now THAT could do some damage!

I've had this talk before with others, the dream of getting two seconds from them for a nine spot jump without giving our second up is pure fantasy in my mind. Of course, we should ask for that and see what happens.

Just for frame of reference, the pick value chart, which isn't bible by any means but a good thing to look at for an idea, has our number 6 overall, our third, both tradeable fourths, and our tradeable sixth still worth slightly LESS than their 15, 43, 45 (forget about 33). It'd be an all-in move, which might turn out awesome with four picks in the top 45, but a move I'd highly doubt we'd make.

If you want 33 and 43, along with 15, we'd have to give our first and second, and we could probably get their fifth. That isn't enough of a change for me to make that big a move.