Which Alabama Player or Players will The Great Oz Select in the NFL 2016 draft?

[JoeyFlex5]

48 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

I forgot his name, but I read somewhere Henry's backup could be something special

I've said for years that Kenyan drake could be the best back out of Bama in years aside from yeldon. He reminds me a lot of stevan ridley he just hasn't gotten his chances because he's been the 3rd down guy behind both Henry and yeldon since he started.

[JoeyFlex5]

8 hours ago, thieverycorporation said:

Kenyon Drake or C J Prosise will be a Raven by drafts end. 4th round early or via trade.

Ket me add My boy Cua Cravens.

And I like Mayocks draft.

Cravens is USC

[JoeyFlex5]

50 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Kelly is being lauded as a top 20 pick right now, so falling to the 3rd is probably something that only happens if you find a genie in a bottle. 

I recall seeing him fall quite far in mocks because of injuries but mocks are worthless so I'm just basing it on that.

[Ravenskid52752]

CB\RS Cyrus Jones all the way with the first pick of the fourth round for the ravens book it!  

[Alabama Raven]

As a lifelong Alabama fan (And Franchise long Raven's fan) I can pretty easily set college allegiances aside when I talk about Alabama players moving to the NFL. Some of Alabama's players are, as always, a fit with us. Some of them are not for various reasons. Here's my take:

Take:

1. Ragland
2. Robinson
3. Kelly
4. Drake

Do Not Take:

1. Reed
2. Jones

Potentially Divisive:

1. Henry

Ragland fits very well at ILB. Robinson is fine, but not stellar. His maturity and work level is to be commended, he was easily the team leader on defense last year. Kelly is a good, not great Center. Under no circumstance should be taken in the first round. Drake is an absolute baller, and played the entire season recovering from a very serious injury. The further removed he is, the faster he'll be. 2014 Drake was a sight to behold. Would love this guy in the 3rd/4th if he's available. 

Jarran Reed is a good player, don't get me wrong, but we don't need him. He's a limited ability pash rusher, who will struggle to set the edge against the run at the next level. Think a more athletic Courtney Upshaw, but who's guaranteed to go in the 1st round. If Reed were available in the latter part of round 2 he would be a great choice, but the value isn't there. Cyrus Jones is a different story. We should NOT select him under any circumstance. He was the third best cover corner for Alabama in 2015. He was exploited by a handful of talented Wide Receivers. As a return man, I'm skeptical of his performance. Alabama has traditionally produced really solid return men who have essentially overperformed at the college level. Javier Arenas for instance, is one of NCAAF's all-time leaders in return yards, touchdowns, and yards per return. Cyrus Jones is a hard worker by all accounts, but his lack of ability to play CB really limits his value. The absolute earliest we should touch Jones is if he falls to the 5th round. Anything before then is aggressive.

Henry is divisive. He's one of the most impressive athletes I've watched play at Alabama. He's a very large, bulky, yet fit RB. He can handle mass amounts of carries and is the epitome of "Gets stronger as the game goes on". Interestingly, he won't blow you away with physicality. He's more elusive than some here give him credit for, but his lack of lateral agility, acceleration, and deficient hands are all legitimate concerns. Ultimately, I think he will be a useful NFL RB, who I would have been willing to take in Round 2, if not for the stable of RBs we currently have on roster. I don't believe Henry would get the playing time required to take advantage of his best features in Baltimore with the number of backs we have, and we have too much need at other positions to select him.   

[Kinda_Dante]

So according to Rapoport Reggie Ragland has been pushed down some boards due to an enlarged aorta which requires yearly monitoring...

[ALPHA]

3 minutes ago, Kinda_Dante said:

So according to Rapoport Reggie Ragland has been pushed down some boards due to an enlarged aorta which requires yearly monitoring...

I think there are valves in the aorta that stop blood flowing backwards between pumps. If its too big it doesnt close properly, something like that

[allblackraven]

40 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

I think there are valves in the aorta that stop blood flowing backwards between pumps. If its too big it doesnt close properly, something like that

Valves are not part of the aorta, they are in the heart chambers. Enlarged aorta is most likely a bulge somewhere on the vessel that appeared because aorta's wall is weakened in that area. It's dangerous because blood is flowing through that spot at high pressure and, particularly during intense physical activity, that bulge can rupture.

[ALPHA]

1 hour ago, allblackraven said:

Valves are not part of the aorta, they are in the heart chambers. Enlarged aorta is most likely a bulge somewhere on the vessel that appeared because aorta's wall is weakened in that area. It's dangerous because blood is flowing through that spot at high pressure and, particularly during intense physical activity, that bulge can rupture.

Sounds like another time bomb

[allblackraven]

2 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

Sounds like another time bomb

No, not really - it's been said that quite a few teams don't think much of it, meaning that it's probably very small area of the aorta and just needs to be monitored regularly.

[ALPHA]

4 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

No, not really - it's been said that quite a few teams don't think much of it, meaning that it's probably very small area of the aorta and just needs to be monitored regularly.

It's sad for him but if he comes off a few draft boards he could drop to a point where he's good value.

[JoeyFlex5]

Yay Alabama raven. Finally someone else can back me up on Cyrus Jones being a horrible corner. If he was beaten so easily and consistently every time he played man up in college what makes one think he could just magically be good in the NFL?

[GrimCoconut]

2 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Yay Alabama raven. Finally someone else can back me up on Cyrus Jones being a horrible corner. If he was beaten so easily and consistently every time he played man up in college what makes one think he could just magically be good in the NFL?

A lot of people really do like him. I like Jones, but I don't see a 3rd round pick or even a 4th round pick. I see a guy with RS skills who may become a good CB. I will say that a lot of professionals like Cyrus Jones a lot, FWIW, and they get paid to do this and we get to sit on the couch and pretend lol

[Alabama Raven]

12 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Yay Alabama raven. Finally someone else can back me up on Cyrus Jones being a horrible corner. If he was beaten so easily and consistently every time he played man up in college what makes one think he could just magically be good in the NFL?

You can't fool a 3 year sample size. Cyrus Jones struggles in coverage. I'd be more than happy to take him in the 5th round, but no sooner. He lacks recovery speed, and is deficient at locating the ball in the air. He's made a name for himself as a press specialist physical corner who is good against the run game - undoubtedly true. However, he's all of 5'10 and a 195 lbs. I don't see his game translating well at the next level without at least two years (or more) polish on the bench. I'm comfortable granting a 5th round pick that time, but not a 3rd round pick (Which is where he's rumored to be heading at this point). Return guys are a dime a dozen. Pass.

[ellicottraven]

Ragland if we trade back with the Titans. Cyrus Jones if he falls into the 4th round. And potentially Derrick Henry if he falls to us in the second at 36. Assuming we've already taken Noah at #33.

[JoeyFlex5]

24 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

A lot of people really do like him. I like Jones, but I don't see a 3rd round pick or even a 4th round pick. I see a guy with RS skills who may become a good CB. I will say that a lot of professionals like Cyrus Jones a lot, FWIW, and they get paid to do this and we get to sit on the couch and pretend lol

I think a lot of guys fall in love with his fire and personality and gets a lot of bonus stock for that. But tape alone shows a 6th round return man

[ravensnj]

19 hours ago, RaineV1 said:

Cyrus Jones and Ryan Kelly would be the only ones I want.

I agree with you 100 %

[ravensnj]

9 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

The only Bama player in this class that I want is Ryan kelly in the 3rd if he falls. Robinson in the 2nd would be a good quality pick and he brings a lot of explosion to the NT spot but I doubt he falls there and he is inconsistent.

Kelly might not make it out of the first round. He is pretty much the safest pick in the draft. I agree with the Robinson selection. The guy plays with a mean streak. I like Jones too, but, i know you disagree. I dropped my rating on him to a 4th round pick. 

[Ravens559]

21 hours ago, Cville-Raven said:

Did their teammates attend their 21st birthday?

lmao

 

[thieverycorporation]

21 hours ago, allblackraven said:

Prosise and Cravens aren't Alabama players

Drake is tho. I added to my comment to clue you in.

[Ravens559]

we should trade up now to get derrick henry

 

Edited April 29, 2016 by Ravens559
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[52520Andrew]

On 4/28/2016 at 10:40 PM, 52520Andrew said:

Yeah lot of mocks have him going mid to late first. Biggest reason I think he may fall is due to DTs having a tendency to slide on draft day

And a ton of DL have fallen so far. Reed, Jones, and Billings are all guys I like. Wouldn't even mind gambling on the athleticism of Robinson. 

[JoeyFlex5]

I'll be livid if we take Henry at 36. Absolutely livid

[allblackraven]

7 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'll be livid if we take Henry at 36. Absolutely livid

I won't but I admit I prefer Spence just because of the position he plays.

[allblackraven]

Come to think of it... how cool would it be to pick DH and he smashes Cowboys in their house?

[ALPHA]

2 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'll be livid if we take Henry at 36. Absolutely livid

Do not jinx us.

3 hours ago, 52520Andrew said:

And a ton of DL have fallen so far. Reed, Jones, and Billings are all guys I like. Wouldn't even mind gambling on the athleticism of Robinson. 

Jones and Billings make sense, Reed fell because he's not a pocket collapser.

[Maryland]

So Ozzie will have his pick of Ragland, Reed, A'Shawn, and Henry at 36

If I was a betting man, I'd do 1:2 odds on him homering lol

[JoeyFlex5]

Just now, Maryland said:

So Ozzie will have his pick of Ragland, Reed, A'Shawn, and Henry at 36

If I was a betting man, I'd do 1:2 odds on him homering lol

As much as I can't stand Henry as a NFL rb, I think I'd have to give him the nod between these guys. I just hate what all of them being to the table, yay 3 run defenders on the DL, hell at least Henry has a chance to bring something to the table that we don't already have in mass amounts

[allblackraven]

6 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

As much as I can't stand Henry as a NFL rb, I think I'd have to give him the nod between these guys. I just hate what all of them being to the table, yay 3 run defenders on the DL, hell at least Henry has a chance to bring something to the table that we don't already have in mass amounts

You feel different about Henry 2000 yards and 20+ consecutive games with a TD later:

 

[JoeyFlex5]

24 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

You feel different about Henry 2000 yards and 20+ consecutive games with a TD later:

 

Yeap. I hadn't really watched him with an analytical eye yet when I had posted that. I just saw a big guy running really fast and breaking a lot of long runs and got enamored. Really watching him though it looks like it was all bamas line allowing him enough time to get a head of steam so that when he reached the secondary untouched he can ram through a db 20 lbs lighter than him lol. I don't think he can hit holes fast enough in the NFL because they won't be open as long as they were at Bama. And when he isn't making first contact with a full head of steam he won't be bowling anyone over because he runs too upright and he won't have the momentum he needs. I think the game is too fast at the next level for him to be anything more than average