[News] Late For Work 4/27: Ravens Reportedly Focused On Joey Bosa, Two Other Pass Rushers At No. 6

[Grapple Raven]

Just my thoughts, but I'm still sticking with the Ravens choosing Stanley, Buckner, Hargreaves or Lawson with that # 6 pick.  They are the cleanest talented prospects out there with very little to no off the field issues or injury concerns.  With a 5- 11 record last season the Ravens can little afford to pick one of these prospects with major injury concerns or off the field issues, because they need a player than can contribute right away. 

I think that automatically pushes several down the list for the Ravens like Bosa (red flag on off the field issues), Jack (major injury in torn meniscus and later discovered with chondral defect in that knee on combine recheck) and possibly Tunsil (off the field issues relating to taking benefits and not being forth coming about it and a domestic violence issue in 2015, and a rather lengthy injury history that never allowed his to complete a full yr. of his college career). 

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

I want a D-lineman or Tunsil with  the 6th pick Ramsey would be nice too. BUT PLEASE ABSOLUTLY NO Elliott our RB position is full of talent I am not saying Elliott is not good we just have more glaring needs now. Only reason I mention this is because a there are a few whispers saying this out there.

[Grapple Raven]

1 hour ago, steelcityraven said:

I really don't believe that Jacks knee is all that questionable. He had a meniscus repair instead of a scope. (if there was more damage then that... they would have fixed it when they did the repair as the exploratory surgery would have revealed more). They were inside his knee and knew exactly what was intact and if structural damage existed... they reported none. They knew when they did the repair, that it wasn't worse then that but that a meniscus repair would be a longer healing process (six -eight weeks)... instead the few days it would have been - if he would have simply got it cleaned up with a scope. He is not in great shape bc he has been off of the knee (per doctors orders) so that it heals correctly. But Conditioning has never been an issue for Jack and I believe that the health of his knee has more to do with certain team doctors spreading those rumors in an attempt to get his draft stock to drop. Most team doctors that checked this guy out gave him a clean bill of health (including Dr. Leigh Ann Curl our team orthopedic doctor). If Jack falls to us... he is not a consolation prize. I personally do not think he will get past JAX... where Dr. Kaplan and his team down there also gave Jack a clean bill of health. But if he falls to us bc of someone else's rumors ... I would have to admit that I would be pretty happy to land this guy! Gotta be careful this time of year. It is kinda like politics, where there is a degree of truth in the stuff being said but nobody is ever sure how much however!

Jack's stock is dropping like a rock, because at his combine medical recheck it was discovered that besides the known knee injury with the torn meniscus that hasn't healed as quickly as they thought he was diagnosed with " chondral defect", see link below:

http://sportsnaut.com/2016/04/report-myles-jack-chondral-defect-right-knee/

This is separate from the original injury of the torn meniscus, and the chondral defect is seen by some to be a deal breaker because it will cause constant pain and swelling and will mean that it would have to be managed constantly due to bone on bone issues.  It would mean less practice and or playing  time and could reduce the amount of time he has for his career, and possibly could require more extensive surgery with no guarantee of a complete repair.

Personally, I don't see the Ravens taking on the risk using their 6th pick on another player with possible major knee issues, imho.  Some teams might be willing to take the risk, but I don't think the Ravens can afford it.  Think about it...two yrs. straight with a #1 pick and its possible that neither one of them sees the field due to a knee?  I just don't see the Ravens putting themselves in that possible position for a second straight year.

 

Tunsil on the other hand has had several injuries that went viewed collectively do raise some concern as to his overall durability...a sprained knee, partially torn bicep, a broken leg and a disclocated ankle that required surgery in 2015, all of these occurring within a three yr. span that caused him to never complete a full season of college football.  Off the field issues that got him suspended for several games for taking benefits and then "not being forthcoming" about said benefits, and a 2015 domestic violence issue within his family for which he was arrested, and charges were later dropped (seeing as how most are for fear of it affecting a player's draft status).

I am sure some will be pleased if we draft one of these two, while they aren't my choice for the 6th pick, if they are drafted I will welcome them to the Ravens, hope they are successful while I cross my fingers and pray a lot~ lol.

[mearzunkies]

  6 hours ago, fusuymada said:

No way I believe this and no offense Sara, as team writers are kept in the dark like the rest of us but I don't believe the Ravens will pigeon hole themselves into a defensive end, need or not. I can think of at least 4 players, one of which will be on the board when the Ravens pick and they are all better players than Bosa. If Ramsey, Tunsil, Buckner or Jack is there and they take Bosa, there are problem in the FO, because they are not picking the best player on the board. I can see Tunsil going to the Chargers, Elliott to the Cowboys and Jack to the Jaguars and if we pick Bosa at that pick, we are nuts. I have watched every piece of video available publicly with Bosa in it and first thing that stands out is when you look Suggs and Dumervil, is the quickness off the line, how quick they get into the tackle and then how quickly they can either speed past them or use their hands to get inside. When I look at Bosa I don't see a defensive end who is quick enough to get into the tackle before the tackle locks him up, he doesn't have the speed to get outside or around a pro tackle and his quickness and speed wont get him inside the tackle to get to the qb. Against the best tackles in the draft, he was a non-factor. I would prefer we get Ramsey and if he is not there, I would trade back and grab Hargreaves. Then I would move back up in the draft and get Spence or Nkemdiche. Plenty of defensive linemen in the draft but only two really elite corners, Ramsey and Hargreaves. The others are good but they are not start day 1 corners where Ramsey and Hargreaves are.

So, just so I'm clear... you have multiple times made statements questioning the "off field concerns" of Laremy Tunsil and suggested that they are sufficient to not draft him at #6, yet, now, you are possibly advocating trading back up into the first round to grab Nkemdiche, who is arguably one of the biggest "red flag" players in the entire draft in terms of off-field concerns? And that same guy also seems to frequently get lost on film and there are major questions about him taking plays off and simply not playing as hard as he can?

Just trying to understand the logic behind that?

I mean this sounds a lot like some of the guys on here who bashed the Ravens for drafting Perriman due to his past injury concerns and are now simultaneously advocating for Myles Jack to be a top 10 pick for us. 

Kind of a head scratcher don't ya think?

:) OUCH!

[mearzunkies]

  5 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

So, just so I'm clear... you have multiple times made statements questioning the "off field concerns" of Laremy Tunsil and suggested that they are sufficient to not draft him at #6, yet, now, you are possibly advocating trading back up into the first round to grab Nkemdiche, who is arguably one of the biggest "red flag" players in the entire draft in terms of off-field concerns? And that same guy also seems to frequently get lost on film and there are major questions about him taking plays off and simply not playing as hard as he can?

Just trying to understand the logic behind that?

I mean this sounds a lot like some of the guys on here who bashed the Ravens for drafting Perriman due to his past injury concerns and are now simultaneously advocating for Myles Jack to be a top 10 pick for us. 

Kind of a head scratcher don't ya think?

Spence is also in that circle of "party drug" users with Bosa and Elliott.

Nkemdiche is just a train wreck. He wants a panther because they are just like cats. Um, no they aren't. Domesticated cats don't have the ability to maul and kill humans. Remember the tiger trainers that had a long time performance tiger that they trusted turn on and maul Roy? These guys are professionals and that happened to them.  His family includes a "large number of people who aren't related to me, but are similar in blood to me." To me that is code for a gang. He fell out of a window at a party.

He is a troubled person IMO. I agree..

[jravens1313]

If we could trade back and still get Lawson that would be awesome. Floyd has rare rushing ability but needs to add weight to his frame.

[law215]

I would be extremely disappointed if the Ravens traded out of the 6 pick. They need a top player more than more picks. At pick 6 take the BPA no hesitation.

[JimmyBlack]

Tomorrow is only a night away.  We can find out the Ravens pick somewhere around 8:30 or so.  I would take Ramsey over Tunsil simply because of the latest incident in the news, but I'm not Ozzie, so I'm sure if they take him, then he was properly vetted.  My 3rd favorite pick would be Bosa.  Honestly, it can't get here fast enough for this fan.

[FLBoyRaven]

Shaq Lawson hasnt gotten much buzz from us by I've been saying throughout this whole process that he will be a better pro then Bosa.

[purpledown]

no. 6 is too high for Floyd. Cant wait for our pick tomorrow night.

[cbrook1862]

no. 6 is too high for Floyd. Cant wait for our pick tomorrow night.

i agree

[PersianRaven]

  7 hours ago, steelcityraven said:

  8 hours ago, hen826957 said:

Ramsey please slide to us man. You best fit on our team not the Cowboys or Jags. He needs to be a Raven. Please! Let him slide to us. ?

Boy do I hope he does slide to us... and I guess that could happen... (Chargers taking Tunsil, Cowboys taking Zeke and Jags taking Jack) that is possible but I really don't like our chances. I really do think that If it did... you and I would be doing some backflips! Lets hope... (another scenario that could cause Ramsey to fall to us is another trade- which is possible)~!

I don't think he will be at #6 either...but if he is, I think it would be hard for the Ravens brass not to rush the stage and snag him!

Boy I hope we get this guy!! I'll join on them flips lol

[whobilly]

DEFENSE!! DEFENSE!! Did everybody already forget the havoc the Broncos pass rush put on Joe in the first game along with Brady and Cam in the AFC Title Game and Super Bowl? Offense helps....Defense WINS!!

[EliteRavens]

Trade up for Ramsey

[rmcjacket23]

2 minutes ago, EliteRavens said:

Trade up for Ramsey

There isn't anybody in this draft worth trading up for.

[bioLarzen]

Bosa to the Chargers at #3 - and that's when EVERY SINGLE mock draft is thrown into the trash can :D

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[ravens4life86]

Well Ravens have their LT of the future in stanley. Glad they chose the clean guy over the guy with baggage.
Now, Gotta go...Pass rush. Missed out on bosa. I really hope they trade back into the first for a great edge rusher..like spence,Dodd etc

[Ugly Ball]

Trade up for Ramsey

Cowgirls said no !