[News] Eisenberg: Only Certainty Is Uncertainly In Ravens Draft

[BR News]

Could the Ravens trade up? Could they trade back? Could Jalen Ramsey fall? Could they surprise and take Ezekiel Elliott? Yes to all.

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[sami]

there is no way the Ravens will trade up. No one in the top 5 are worth giving up draft picks for when we have the #6 pick.

[Raven_Don]

We didn't go 5-11 because of the offense... the defense let us down the first half of the year... I honestly don't care who we select... I am more concerned with the player selected to be a difference maker... i.e. C.J Mosley... that's all I care about... Go Ravens!!!

[7NationArmy]

I think the choice is going to come down to Tunsil or Buckner. I'm a big defense guy but I think I go Tunsil there. Either way can't wait for Thursday!

[griffrb]

Gotta love the NFL and Ravens media machine's ability to build year drama! Can we fans get an off-season? LOL! The only certainty is the draft is Thursday evening. All other scenarios are guesses at best until the card is submitted or there is a trade. Personally, hold on to the pick and select a potential franchise player. (Unfortunately, any player selected in the 1st round or top ten is not a guaranteed star.) Go Ravens!

[bluehen]

Thursday can't get here quick enough. I bet you are sick of dreaming up something to write about too!

[fluffy201]

Lets go Thursday. Out of curiosity, if the Ramsey fell to the Jags how much would it cost the Ravens to move up one spot?

[jravens1313]

A lot less uncertainty than previous drafts. We pretty much know we are going to land 1 of 4 players in Round 1.

[jravens1313]

Lets go Thursday. Out of curiosity, if the Ramsey fell to the Jags how much would it cost the Ravens to move up one spot?

Not worth it.

[jravens1313]

We didn't go 5-11 because of the offense... the defense let us down the first half of the year... I honestly don't care who we select... I am more concerned with the player selected to be a difference maker... i.e. C.J Mosley... that's all I care about... Go Ravens!!!

Our inability to Run the ball (Control the Clock), Rush the passer, and Cover in the secondary were the reasons why we were 5-11.

[CaliRavenFan]

At first I hated the idea of taking Tunsil at #6 but if Myles Jack is gone he is the next best player to take. I am not sold on Ramsey being the Superstar they are making him out to be but that could be my fear of drafting another FSU Defensive Back.. Bosa in my opinion is identical to Clowney and I just don't see him making the instant impact. I will be Happy with Tunsil, Excited for Elliot and down right screaming for JOY if we end up with Jack.

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, CaliRavenFan said:

At first I hated the idea of taking Tunsil at #6 but if Myles Jack is gone he is the next best player to take. I am not sold on Ramsey being the Superstar they are making him out to be but that could be my fear of drafting another FSU Defensive Back.. Bosa in my opinion is identical to Clowney and I just don't see him making the instant impact. I will be Happy with Tunsil, Excited for Elliot and down right screaming for JOY if we end up with Jack.

I don't think Jack's a consideration. His knee is a gigantic concern.

[WNC-Raven]

  13 minutes ago, CaliRavenFan said:

At first I hated the idea of taking Tunsil at #6 but if Myles Jack is gone he is the next best player to take. I am not sold on Ramsey being the Superstar they are making him out to be but that could be my fear of drafting another FSU Defensive Back.. Bosa in my opinion is identical to Clowney and I just don't see him making the instant impact. I will be Happy with Tunsil, Excited for Elliot and down right screaming for JOY if we end up with Jack.

I don't think Jack's a consideration. His knee is a gigantic concern.

You're always very level headed so I would like to know why you think Jack's knee is a gigantic concern? It seems like all of the concern really ramped up last week when am "anonymous" GM said it was a time bomb. Before that he was being held up as a top 4 pick. Feels to me like whoever released that statement is getting exactly what they intended if having him fall was in fact their intention. Heck maybe the Ravens said it? Also I read that Tunsil was injured every single season he played in college. How would you rate the concern level between Tunsil and Jack's injury history moving forward? Both appear to have enormous upside if healthy.

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, WNC-Raven said:

You're always very level headed so I would like to know why you think Jack's knee is a gigantic concern? It seems like all of the concern really ramped up last week when am "anonymous" GM said it was a time bomb. Before that he was being held up as a top 4 pick. Feels to me like whoever released that statement is getting exactly what they intended if having him fall was in fact their intention. Heck maybe the Ravens said it? Also I read that Tunsil was injured every single season he played in college. How would you rate the concern level between Tunsil and Jack's injury history moving forward? Both appear to have enormous upside if healthy.

1. His medical re-check only occurred within the last few weeks I believe, and that's when discussions about his draft stock changed. 

2. Obviously there are varying opinions, and its up to each individual team to determine the concerns. There's already been a few teams that have indicated he's been moved to the "risk" category of their draft boards, and there are multiple teams that think he will long term need micro-fracture surgery, which historically is among the toughest surgeries to recover from. 

For me, the risk doesn't necessarily match up with the reward. Good player, explosive, but doesn't do anything specifically well. He's not a pure pass rusher, and my guess is the defensive player we will target we either want to be a pass rusher or a secondary playmaker. 

I don't see the desire for us to spend two first round picks in three years on MLB, a position where we are shifting towards playing only one at a time. I believe last season we are in nickel or dime packages about 60% of the time, which can easily eliminate the need for two MLBs on the field at the same time.

Mostly just a guess on my part. Tunsil's injury history is a bit different because its sort of multiple, small injuries, as opposed to one major one with long term possibly complications. 

Jack as a potential trade-back target, possibly in the 10-12 range, makes sense. Just don't see at #6. 

[hen826957]

At first I hated the idea of taking Tunsil at #6 but if Myles Jack is gone he is the next best player to take. I am not sold on Ramsey being the Superstar they are making him out to be but that could be my fear of drafting another FSU Defensive Back.. Bosa in my opinion is identical to Clowney and I just don't see him making the instant impact. I will be Happy with Tunsil, Excited for Elliot and down right screaming for JOY if we end up with Jack.

Ramsey is the safer and better pickup than Myles Jack at this point. We could draft Jaylon Smith in the 4rd round (if he's there) if we want to take a risk there. ?

[ravens4life86]

48 hours..tick tock..
By now Im sure Ozzie and co. I have most logical scenarios ran through and who they would take.

Secondly People need to Get off this JACK Injury Concern..bridge jumping train.
For one.. several reports have contradicted themselves, second rumors(99%) Truth) is that Teams are exploiting his injury hoping he drops by flooding market with injury concerns. I know he wouldnt drop past the Giants at 10.. so his injuries are no more then teams trying to scare people..

If Jack is at 6, Ravens take him..

I think people like to forget Tunsil beat woman,jumped out of a Building and often injured himself..Too much Baggage Hello!!!
Its either..Ramsey,Bosa,Jack,...maybe Buckner..or Zeke Elliott

[WNC-Raven]

32 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

I don't see the desire for us to spend two first round picks in three years on MLB, a position where we are shifting towards playing only one at a time. I believe last season we are in nickel or dime packages about 60% of the time, which can easily eliminate the need for two MLBs on the field at the same time.

Mostly just a guess on my part. Tunsil's injury history is a bit different because its sort of multiple, small injuries, as opposed to one major one with long term possibly complications. 

 

Thank you

[eze17]

I still see a team trying to jump into picks 3-6 to land a QB before SF is on the clock. Not that it will happen, but my guess is at least a few will try.

[The Greek]

aj hawk could be an option for us for 1 season while we develop another mlb already in house or through the draft or ufa. not sure what his asking price would be

[billiejean]

48 hours..tick tock..
By now Im sure Ozzie and co. I have most logical scenarios ran through and who they would take.

Secondly People need to Get off this JACK Injury Concern..bridge jumping train.
For one.. several reports have contradicted themselves, second rumors(99%) Truth) is that Teams are exploiting his injury hoping he drops by flooding market with injury concerns. I know he wouldnt drop past the Giants at 10.. so his injuries are no more then teams trying to scare people..

If Jack is at 6, Ravens take him..

I think people like to forget Tunsil beat woman,jumped out of a Building and often injured himself..Too much Baggage Hello!!!
Its either..Ramsey,Bosa,Jack,...maybe Buckner..or Zeke Elliott

Ummm get the facts.... he got in a domestic dispute with his step father because he pushed his mom. It has never been reported that he had beat a woman. He didn't jump out a window his teammate Nkimdiche did.

[billiejean]

aj hawk could be an option for us for 1 season while we develop another mlb already in house or through the draft or ufa. not sure what his asking price would be

hes on Cincis roster

[Maryland]

46 minutes ago, ravens4life86 said:

48 hours..tick tock..
By now Im sure Ozzie and co. I have most logical scenarios ran through and who they would take.

Secondly People need to Get off this JACK Injury Concern..bridge jumping train.
For one.. several reports have contradicted themselves, second rumors(99%) Truth) is that Teams are exploiting his injury hoping he drops by flooding market with injury concerns. I know he wouldnt drop past the Giants at 10.. so his injuries are no more then teams trying to scare people..

If Jack is at 6, Ravens take him..

I think people like to forget Tunsil beat woman,jumped out of a Building and often injured himself..Too much Baggage Hello!!!
Its either..Ramsey,Bosa,Jack,...maybe Buckner..or Zeke Elliott

lol, I don't think I've seen such a hodgepodge of misinformation in one sentence. 

[fusuymada]

Seems NFL.com is reporting the Saints are trying to get ahead of SF and Cleveland to land Paxton Lynch. (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000656075/article/new-orleans-saints-in-play-for-paxton-lynch) They are presently at #12. The spot before SF and Cleveland is.... The Ravens. To move from #12 to #6 is going to take a couple more picks than moving just one or two spots, but, in my opinion, a best case scenario would be to move back, grab Hargreaves, take the extra picks and move back into the first and grab Spence or Nkemdiche. Both are character concerns but if you hit on Hargreaves, who is squeaky clean, then there will be a little fan leeway if they miss on Spence or Nkemdiche.

[harfordravenfan]

3 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

Seems NFL.com is reporting the Saints are trying to get ahead of SF and Cleveland to land Paxton Lynch. (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000656075/article/new-orleans-saints-in-play-for-paxton-lynch) They are presently at #12. The spot before SF and Cleveland is.... The Ravens. To move from #12 to #6 is going to take a couple more picks than moving just one or two spots, but, in my opinion, a best case scenario would be to move back, grab Hargreaves, take the extra picks and move back into the first and grab Spence or Nkemdiche. Both are character concerns but if you hit on Hargreaves, who is squeaky clean, then there will be a little fan leeway if they miss on Spence or Nkemdiche.

Regardless of the value chart, I wouldn't move down without getting a bundle of picks, including next year's first or second

[The Mom Gene]

2 minutes ago, harfordravenfan said:

Regardless of the value chart, I wouldn't move down without getting a bundle of picks, including next year's first or second

I have to laugh.  My nephew, Erik Harris is currently on the Saints roster, working for a spot in their secondary.  And they have come into play twice so far this year already.  I noticed we are playing them preseason, and now this possibility????  This is going to be a fun season for us.  We have our Ravens, and now we get to root for New Orleans too.  But no....  Here?  I don't want the Ravens to trade back.

[Crusader]

Just don't have another 2013 draft class. That's coming back and biting the Ravens in the butt. Their still trying to fix those holes.

[Crusader]

If you Google these "top" draft picks with their name and the word "issues' (like Joey Bosa issues) everyone of these guys are not to bright. I like a guy who is good and smart enough NOT to get caught.

[rmcjacket23]

8 minutes ago, Crusader said:

If you Google these "top" draft picks with their name and the word "issues' (like Joey Bosa issues) everyone of these guys are not to bright. I like a guy who is good and smart enough NOT to get caught.

Single most ironic post of the day.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

This article is pretty useless. Of course anything COULD happen in the draft. The Ravens could trade up; which I think is highly unlikely. They could trade down; which I see happening if the guys they really want are gone by their pick and think they can get more value by trading down for more picks. They could stand pat and pick any number of top rated talents that might drop.

I don't personally like Bosa. I am not sure what it is about him. Nothing about him really jumps off the page. He's a try hard type one move pass rusher that gets washed out and I think NFL level O-line men will own him. He enjoys the night life with illegal substances a little too much too. A guy with a drug related red flag should not be a top 10 pick.

I am not in love with Buckner. We don't really need him and I don't think he's a game changer. I think you can get that same type of player lower in the draft.

I like Myles Jack only if our doctors are absolutely convinced his knee won't be an issue. He'd fit a need right away and is the perfect fit for our linebacking crew.

I don't expect Tunsil or Ramsey to be there when we pick, but if either of them are those are my picks, with Tunsil over Ramsey.

Ezekiel Elliott would be a strange pick, but if we're convinced he's a franchise type runner then you get him if he's the only guy left.

If my picks are Bosa, Buckner, and possibly even Myles Jack...I might trade down.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

1 hour ago, fusuymada said:

Seems NFL.com is reporting the Saints are trying to get ahead of SF and Cleveland to land Paxton Lynch. (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000656075/article/new-orleans-saints-in-play-for-paxton-lynch) They are presently at #12. The spot before SF and Cleveland is.... The Ravens. To move from #12 to #6 is going to take a couple more picks than moving just one or two spots, but, in my opinion, a best case scenario would be to move back, grab Hargreaves, take the extra picks and move back into the first and grab Spence or Nkemdiche. Both are character concerns but if you hit on Hargreaves, who is squeaky clean, then there will be a little fan leeway if they miss on Spence or Nkemdiche.

I wouldn't touch Nkemdiche with a 10 foot pole. One question alone was enough to seal his fate for me. It was then further ratified by another comment.

"What is the first thing you would buy for you, after you presumably took care of some family first, when you get your contract?"

"A panther..."

Who in the wide world of sports gets a panther? Does he think he's Scarface or something?

The comment of his was about his family. He said his family consists of a lot of people that aren't exactly related, but are similar to him in blood. Um....what? To me that is code for he's got a running crew and he'll take care of his posse.

RED ALERT!

Edited April 26, 2016 by EdTheMythicalOne
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