Nishadrahman13's Final Mock!

[nishadrahman13]

Round 1, Pick 6: Myles Jack, ILB

This is of course predicated on health, and even if he is healthy, I fully expect him to take up to Week 4 to get into football shape. Can we afford to wait that long for a player, especially after what happened with Perriman? We can when he is the #1 player in the entire draft, and to me that's exactly what he is. Jack and Mosley will strike fear throughout the NFL for years to come.

Round 2, Pick 36: Artie Burns, CB

Yes, he will get burnt on occasion, but he will also provide splash plays with interceptions and defensive touchdowns. He got 6 interceptions last year, which is equal to what the entire 2015 secondary put up.

Round 3, Pick 70: Shon Coleman, OT

This kid has incredible movement skills. He will be an absolute road grader in a zone based scheme, which just so happens to be what we run. I think he will struggle a touch with speed rushers off the edge in his rookie year, but he has tons of room for growth. He will push both Wagner and Monroe, and give us a solid option for one of them were to get hurt.

Round 4, Pick 104: Yannick Ngakoue, OLB

Local kid, but far more importantly, he shows genuine ability to get after the quarterback. The gap between him and a guy like Noah Spence is not as big as you might think, and Ngakoue doesn't bring the character concerns. He's going to get absolutely destroyed against the run earlier, until he adds more functional strength and size. As such, he will be a pass rush specialist in Year 1 with potential for more moving forward.

Round 4, Pick 130: Charles Tapper, DE

Here we go, entering the meat of our draft. These compensatory picks will help shape the face of our team for years to count, so let's make them count. Tapper is a freak, pure and simple, and his tape shows potential for growth. His explosiveness is not just surface athleticism, it translates into football skills. Teaming him up with Clarence Brooks is a hugely enticing prospect.

Round 4. Pick 132: Cyrus Jones, CB

Has a chance to be long gone by this slot, but could linger because of concerns with size. I love his return ability and his overall versatility, but perhaps more importantly, I think he can develop into a legit starting corner in the league, going up against the smaller shiftier guys that Smith and Artie Burns would struggle more with.

Round 4, Pick 134: Rashard "Hollywood" Higgins

We are picking at least one receiver in this draft, and Higgins is a better player than this draft slot indicates. He also brings a level of cockiness we lack outside of Steve Smith Sr. in our wide receiver room. Flacco has had huge success with cocky receivers (Mason, Boldin, Smith Sr.), and it is past time we get our own homegrown version.

Round 6, Pick 182: Vernon Adams, QB

Ryan Mallet, all in all, did an admirable job last year, but he is on a one year contract at this point. We draft a longer term backup at this spot.

Round 6, Pick 209: Moritz Boehringer, WR

I give this pick about a 0% chance of happening, but at this point you are drafting more on potential than anything else. The Pittsburgh Steelers have gotten huge returns on athletic freaks becoming stud wideouts for them. I see no reason why we can't beat them in that arms race (except our terrible history developing wide receivers). It's worth a shot at this draft spot.

To summarize: 1 cover ILB, 2 CBs, 1 OTs, 1 pass rushing OLB, 1 pass rushing DE, 2 WR, 1 long term backup QB

I didn't set out drafting for need, but the way the board fell, all of our most glaring needs were tackled. The most radical thing might be the lack of any trades. I would love to add another OLB somewhere in here but there are only so many picks. A bunch of boom or bust prospects are included in this draft as well (Tapper and Boehringer stand out in this regard), but if our coaching staff pulls the best out of these players we will enter into a legitimate era of dominance.

 

Edited April 25, 2016 by nishadrahman13

[RavensFan34950]

If the Ravens draft Jeff Driskel I might cry. He's in Ryan Leaf territory in terms of garbage.

[Stevin]

i like 1-4 rounds

[rossihunter2]

i love that 4th round but im not sure tapper, ngakoue and cyrus jones all make it as much as id love all 3 - if this happens ill be elated but i can definitely see both tapper and cyrus jones being taken in the mid-late 3rd by someone

[RavensDieHard21]

Very solid, Artie Burns I am torn on. If he develops well here he could be a huge addition. I also think the meniscus issue is far overblown. I've partially torn mine and it only took me about 6 months before I started squatting heavy again and playing football. I think Jack is the swiss army knife that helps prevent the cute little dink and dunk offenses.

[nishadrahman13]

50 minutes ago, RavensFan34950 said:

If the Ravens draft Jeff Driskel I might cry. He's in Ryan Leaf territory in terms of garbage.

An excellent point, I meant to switch out that name. I've fixed it now to be Vernon Adams, the QB out of Oregon. Size issues to be sure but decent elsewhere.

[nishadrahman13]

5 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

i love that 4th round but im not sure tapper, ngakoue and cyrus jones all make it as much as id love all 3 - if this happens ill be elated but i can definitely see both tapper and cyrus jones being taken in the mid-late 3rd by someone

There's about a 50-50 chance, I agree. This is close to an ideal scenario in some respects, but is still very realistic I believe.

[nishadrahman13]

4 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Very solid, Artie Burns I am torn on. If he develops well here he could be a huge addition. I also think the meniscus issue is far overblown. I've partially torn mine and it only took me about 6 months before I started squatting heavy again and playing football. I think Jack is the swiss army knife that helps prevent the cute little dink and dunk offenses.

Agree with both points, Burns is a boom or bust type of guy. Especially in Year 1. Myles Jack I have close to no worries about. As close to an ideal prospect for his position since Khalil Mack and Aaron Donald (I always thought the size thing for Donald was nonsense).

[ALPHA]

34 minutes ago, nishadrahman13 said:

An excellent point, I meant to switch out that name. I've fixed it now to be Vernon Adams, the QB out of Oregon. Size issues to be sure but decent elsewhere.

Better, Brissett is a good development QB too.

Driskel should have been a tight end.

[JoeyFlex5]

If we take artie burns in the 2nd I'll change my avy to honeybooboos mom.

 

Btw. Artie burns is trash. He's a track star with zero skills in coverage. 4th round flier at best. Kendall fuller, alexander, and even xavien Howard who I'm not big on, all look like far better choices in the 2nd. I'd also take kevon Seymour and will Redmond over him and even Kevin Peterson as a slot guy

Edited April 25, 2016 by JoeyFlex5

[nishadrahman13]

17 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

If we take artie burns in the 2nd I'll change my avy to honeybooboos mom.

 

Btw. Artie burns is trash. He's a track star with zero skills in coverage. 4th round flier at best. Kendall fuller, alexander, and even xavien Howard who I'm not big on, all look like far better choices in the 2nd. I'd also take kevon Seymour and will Redmond over him and even Kevin Peterson as a slot guy

Aha, finally something we disagree on. In this scenario, Alexander and Fuller are both gone. Artie Burns will get burnt early and often to start, but he has good to great ball skills. As you said, his biggest issue will be legitimate man coverage, but he has the size and speed to improve on that department. He's developmental for sure but based on potential he's a second rounder. And with the 4th round being so exceptional, I didn't want to push my luck and say someone like Chris Jones or Will Jackson III is avaliable at our pick.

[GrimCoconut]

I don't know where this Artie Burns in the 2nd round stuff came from but I don't get it and I like the Hurricanes a lot. They're one of my favorite teams to watch and I try to watch a lot of their games. They are one of my teams, in fact. 

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, nishadrahman13 said:

Aha, finally something we disagree on. In this scenario, Alexander and Fuller are both gone. Artie Burns will get burnt early and often to start, but he has good to great ball skills. As you said, his biggest issue will be legitimate man coverage, but he has the size and speed to improve on that department. He's developmental for sure but based on potential he's a second rounder. And with the 4th round being so exceptional, I didn't want to push my luck and say someone like Chris Jones or Will Jackson III is avaliable at our pick.

Ok the first part makes sense. I just don't see a quality player in burns. I'm sure others could point out my fascination with Kevin dodd and use the same argument because he's so raw, but I just don't see the same thing with burns, I think he's just an athlete rather than a football player

[usmccharles]

If that 4th round happen I would thrilled. I don't have to say what I think about Jack...other than I love him. 

If we Moritz Boehringer I wouldn't be that happy.   He has crazy measurables, but the level of talent he played against wasn't on par to Air Bud. 

 

[nishadrahman13]

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Ok the first part makes sense. I just don't see a quality player in burns. I'm sure others could point out my fascination with Kevin dodd and use the same argument because he's so raw, but I just don't see the same thing with burns, I think he's just an athlete rather than a football player

I completely agree, he's more of an athlete than a football player at this point. However, they said the same thing with Ziggy Ansah and he's been the most productive pass rusher out of that draft. Basically, he's also likely not to be pure BPA at that spot. That's basically a fact. But two major points here: 1. He has legitimate potential, and 2. There's gonna be a big run on corners in this draft from late 1st to mid 2nd round, and I really think our hand will be forced to take a corner earlier than we might have that player graded.

[nishadrahman13]

1 hour ago, usmccharles said:

If that 4th round happen I would thrilled. I don't have to say what I think about Jack...other than I love him. 

If we Moritz Boehringer I wouldn't be that happy.   He has crazy measurables, but the level of talent he played against wasn't on par to Air Bud. 

 

Agreed, but 1. I don't know who else I would rather have at that slot, and 2. I feel huge jealousy when I see what the Steelers are doing. We suck at developing receivers anyway, might as well take a shot on an athletic freak rather than not if we're equally likely to miss.

[KBoum]

I like it but I don'T think its really realistic. Tapper will be gone at that pick...  Cyrus Jones too... Rashard Higgins probably in the late 3rd. Ngakoue has been mocked in the 3rd as well recently his stock is on the rise.

 

if that happens that would be a very huge draft tho. playmakers everywhere. I prefer Nate Sudfield as QB in the 6th thats for sure

[nishadrahman13]

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Ok the first part makes sense. I just don't see a quality player in burns. I'm sure others could point out my fascination with Kevin dodd and use the same argument because he's so raw, but I just don't see the same thing with burns, I think he's just an athlete rather than a football player

What do you think of Eli Apple?

[nishadrahman13]

4 minutes ago, KBoum said:

I like it but I don'T think its really realistic. Tapper will be gone at that pick...  Cyrus Jones too... Rashard Higgins probably in the late 3rd. Ngakoue has been mocked in the 3rd as well recently his stock is on the rise.

 

if that happens that would be a very huge draft tho. playmakers everywhere. I prefer Nate Sudfield as QB in the 6th thats for sure

This is heavily based on Reuters 7 round mock on Nfl.com to gauge what range prospects are in, and according to that mock as well as others I've seen online, all of these players would actually be around the draft slot I have them in. I don't know much about Nate Sudfield, but I'd definitely be willing to look into him.

Edited April 26, 2016 by nishadrahman13

[usmccharles]

7 minutes ago, nishadrahman13 said:

Agreed, but 1. I don't know who else I would rather have at that slot, and 2. I feel huge jealousy when I see what the Steelers are doing. We suck at developing receivers anyway, might as well take a shot on an athletic freak rather than not if we're equally likely to miss.

Jakeem grant,  Texas Tech wr? Complete opposite of that guy,  just faster. Not sure of what round he will go in.   

I'm jealous of their development skills with wrs,  but jealously won't help us out anything 

[rossihunter2]

12 minutes ago, nishadrahman13 said:

I completely agree, he's more of an athlete than a football player at this point. However, they said the same thing with Ziggy Ansah and he's been the most productive pass rusher out of that draft. Basically, he's also likely not to be pure BPA at that spot. That's basically a fact. But two major points here: 1. He has legitimate potential, and 2. There's gonna be a big run on corners in this draft from late 1st to mid 2nd round, and I really think our hand will be forced to take a corner earlier than we might have that player graded.

unfortunately, you've basically given the reason we won't pick burns there - if there's a run on corners, it means that other higher graded prospects are falling - and oz and eric will stick to bpa because it's almost like their religion - burns might go, but if there's a run it won't be to the ravens unless we have a much higher grade on him than other teams

Edited April 26, 2016 by rossihunter2

[nishadrahman13]

29 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

unfortunately, you've basically given the reason we won't pick burns there - if there's a run on corners, it means that other higher graded prospects are falling - and oz and eric will stick to bpa because it's almost like their religion - burns might go, but if there's a run it won't be to the ravens unless we have a much higher grade on him than other teams

Absolutely a fair point, and there's a solid chance that the 36th pick goes in another direction. That's probably the most difficult pick to determine in this draft, because who knows who will fall to that slot.

[rossihunter2]

25 minutes ago, nishadrahman13 said:

Absolutely a fair point, and there's a solid chance that the 36th pick goes in another direction. That's probably the most difficult pick to determine in this draft, because who knows who will fall to that slot.

for me it'll probably be a trench guy because people always reach on pass rushers and corners

at OL: cody whitehair, ryan kelly

at DL: andrew billings, ashawn robinson, chris jones maybe nkemdiche

of course those aren't the sexy picks - and we may have some players who might be available here rated higher - sua cravens might be rated high on the ravens board or a wide receiver might fall (although they are often reached on)

i'd love it if one of the other corners was around at the beginning of the second like mackensie alexander or william jackson iii (if other gms go crazy) but i don't see it - especially as no one's going to take a defensive lineman because there is so much depth in this draft

[ludy51]

Love me some Bohehringer

[Number23]

I don't know if we still want Jack after the new news on his knee, but I could still see it. Artie Burns seems a bit high to me, but I might just be biased toward some other guys at CB. But I really love the idea of Higgins in the 4th.

[CaliRavenFan]

1 hour ago, ludy51 said:

Love me some Bohehringer

That's what I'm saying, I would draft him with our #136 pick. He really impressed at his pro day and with his Size (6'4 220 lbs) and Speed (4.4 40yard dash)he is a matchup nightmare. Yes he is really raw but what are 4th round picks for? He can sit for a year to learn the speed of the game and next year when Steve Smith retires he can have a chance to start opposite of Breshard Perriman. That would give Flacco two great huge and fast targets to throw too. Crockett Gillmore and Maxx Williams in our 2 TE sets would be too much for any team to handle.

[nishadrahman13]

2 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

for me it'll probably be a trench guy because people always reach on pass rushers and corners

at OL: cody whitehair, ryan kelly

at DL: andrew billings, ashawn robinson, chris jones maybe nkemdiche

of course those aren't the sexy picks - and we may have some players who might be available here rated higher - sua cravens might be rated high on the ravens board or a wide receiver might fall (although they are often reached on)

i'd love it if one of the other corners was around at the beginning of the second like mackensie alexander or william jackson iii (if other gms go crazy) but i don't see it - especially as no one's going to take a defensive lineman because there is so much depth in this draft

If WJIII is avaliable at 28-30, I think we trade up for him. This is super unlikely. Out of the trench guys, I love Chris Jones, extremely explosive despite the fact he falls down a lot. If Alexander is there, I'd take him over Burns, although his lack of even ONE interception in his career is hugely concerning to me.

[nishadrahman13]

And in the 3rd Round, I like me some Shilique Calhoun, who is a slightly better Ngakoue to me. If Fackrell is there, he is the pick, over Coleman as well. I would be shocked to see him there, his tape is excellent.

[nishadrahman13]

In fact, I'm going to officially switch out Coleman for Shilique Calhoun. Watched the Iowa game and I am sold. Also, would trade up to 30th for William Jackson, losing the 104th pick (Yannick Ngakoue) to pluck one of my favorite corners in the draft.

New look:

Round 1, Pick 6: Myles Jack, ILB

Trade Round 2, Pick 36 and Round 4, Pick 104 for Round 1, Pick 30: William Jackson III, CB

Round 3, Pick 70: Shilique Calhoun, OLB

Round 4, Pick 130: Charles Tapper, DE

Round 4. Pick 132: Cyrus Jones, CB

Round 4, Pick 134: Rashard "Hollywood" Higgins, WR

Round 6, Pick 182: Vernon Adams, QB

Round 6, Pick 209: Moritz Boehringer, WR

This is darned close to a perfect draft in my eyes, despite the lack of O-line help. First 5 picks on defense? You better believe it.

[RavensFan34950]

I don't see don't see Calhoun making it past the second. I think he's the second best pure edge rusher behind Bosa. Hope Ozzie gets him in the second round.