Tunsil or Ramsey

[Deflated Football]

Man I really hope we don't choose Stanley over Tunsil if both are there at six, but to answer the question, I would go with Tunsil because I don't trust Monroe at all to stay healthy for a full season but it's not an easy decision. I'll let Oz decide and agree with whatever he does. 

[GrimCoconut]

1 minute ago, Tyler said:

I would have agreed with you a few days ago, but I'm really starting to buy into the Bosa to Dallas hype. In my opinion, that's the rumor that has been picking up the most steam. We will see. 

I just don't buy it unless someone comes out saying Bosa is likely to go to them. The days before the draft are both riddled with fact and fiction. In some ways the truest statements come to light, and in others, there's nothing but smokescreens. I typically look at the source and base my opinion on that. Dallas needs a pass rusher but they also need the best player and they haven't reached lately...granted, I don't see Bosa as a reach. I think Dallas stays true to their board because they can take either position in the second round. There will be pass rushers available in the second round as well. 

[polynesian15]

Tunsil for me. I feel more optimistic about the secondary with Jimmy, Weddle, Wright and Davis than I do Monroe at LT. Add that to Joe's injury being caused by a useless LT last year, and I think the choice is clear. Joe is the (100) million dollar man, we have to protect him and give him time to unleash the cannon.

On another note, does anyone know at what time the draft coverage begins Thursday?

[GrimCoconut]

6 minutes ago, polynesian15 said:

Tunsil for me. I feel more optimistic about the secondary with Jimmy, Weddle, Wright and Davis than I do Monroe at LT. Add that to Joe's injury being caused by a useless LT last year, and I think the choice is clear. Joe is the (100) million dollar man, we have to protect him and give him time to unleash the cannon.

On another note, does anyone know at what time the draft coverage begins Thursday?

The Draft starts at 8pm EST

[Tyler]

4 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I just don't buy it unless someone comes out saying Bosa is likely to go to them. The days before the draft are both riddled with fact and fiction. In some ways the truest statements come to light, and in others, there's nothing but smokescreens. I typically look at the source and base my opinion on that. Dallas needs a pass rusher but they also need the best player and they haven't reached lately...granted, I don't see Bosa as a reach. I think Dallas stays true to their board because they can take either position in the second round. There will be pass rushers available in the second round as well. 

I won't argue that at all, but one Cowboys executive said That bosa is getting "Strong Consideration" at 4, and Stephen Jones apparently "Lit up" when mentioning Bosa. Casserly, Mayock, Kiper, the big "draft gurus" have just been adding to that. Like you said, it could be a smokescreen, as those become the norm days before the draft, but I see Bosa as a much better for Dallas than I ever see him being for the Ravens. Ramsey is still the dream scenario for us. 

[beanfigger]

How happy would I be if we were forced to deal with this "dilemma"!

Ramsey is my choice, but the margin is razor-thin. If we are going all in for this season (foolish), then Tunsil is the better pick. DBs rarely have a huge, positive impact right out of the gate the way elite linemen can.

Man, it is great either way. Please let just one of them slip, let alone both.

[ludy51]

1 hour ago, GrimCoconut said:

The Draft starts at 8pm EST

Can we move that up to today?

[RavensDieHard21]

13 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

If this scenario plays out, and it is possible if Buckner, Bosa and Jack go to the Chargers, Cowboys and Jacksonville, I believe I'll faint in anticipation! I have no clue what the Ravens will do man. On the one hand I salivate at the prospect of either of them as a solitary choice available to us. But, if both are available, I still think we should go Tunsil as he is a generational LT who would instantly improve QB and RB play for the Ravens. Ramsey would help, but if we don't have a pass rush, there is not much any DB can do. So Tunsil over Ramsey for me.

I just look at the positional group, We draft Tunsil and our line looks like, Monroe, Tunsil, Zuttah/Urschel, Yanda, Wagner. Eventually Tunsil kicks out and we have yet another solid guard sliding in. Great protection for Joe and Yanda and Tunsil anchor a very solid line.

If we draft Ramsey, training camp will show whether we think Ramsey is a future CB or does Pees try to use a 3 safety system where Ramsey is allowed to roam and make plays everywhere he can. We would have Jimmy, Wright, Webby, Ramsey, and Weddle. The biggest question is whether Ramsey develops into Mathieu or Peterson.

[ravensnation5220]

I cant believe were even asking this question. Not even a week ago we thought we had no shot at either. Now we may have to choose from both. 

Now after what decosta said "id bet defense" ill go ramsey

[Dewy101]

12 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I would definitively not take Buckner and I'm still leaning toward Ramsey; however, I will admit that the lack of pass rushing depth has me worriee.

Let's just agree to disagree on Buckner

[RavensDieHard21]

11 hours ago, usmccharles said:

I hear ya, but the randomness of the injuries kind of scares me.  Just like one of those injury plagued guys that something is always going on with.  I think of Camp

Lol but camp plays one or two games, Outside of his 7 game suspension, he did play in 29 games in three years. Not that worrisome at all.

[rossihunter2]

28 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

I cant believe were even asking this question. Not even a week ago we thought we had no shot at either. Now we may have to choose from both. 

Now after what decosta said "id bet defense" ill go ramsey

he made that bet before the two trades meant that two qbs were definitely going 1 and 2

[RavensDieHard21]

I mean the dilemma here has a .05 % chance of happening, so either one would be the pick. I just think that if Tunsil pans out, Flacco has a sacred guardian to his blind side and Ricky Wagner fully healthy is no scrub. If we are really worried about the Mack's and Miller, whom we only face once every three years and maybe in the playoffs, then we leave a back in to chip them. Flacco's guaranteed money could sink this team for quite some time if he has another major injury due to our line. Do we remember the SB when we put up 34 points, including STs, against a vaunted 49ers D, or 31 against a very good New England D in 2014? In both instances the trenches we stacked and Flacco had all day to throw and also we had a run game going. Ramsey will be a play maker in the secondary, but the comparison to Peterson I think are off at this point. Peterson was far better coming out of college, especially as a CB and ball hawk. He also is faster than Ramsey too. Ramsey will be a hybrid and I don't know if his potential is greater than an Elite LT.

[TurkishRaven]

I think for us it depends on the position depth in draft. I mean Tunsil, Bosa, Ramsey, Jack they all are good players and you cannot say one is better than the other. In this case we should be thinking about the next rounds. 

If we think we can land a good DE prospect at 2nd we should pick Tunsil or Stanley with first. Or like FO said during the pre draft meeting if they think they can land a OT at 3rd round we will go defence with first two.

 

Depends on our board. If there are 5 OTs and 20 DEs and 15 CBs and Tunsil is there we get him and hope for the best.

[rossihunter2]

6 minutes ago, TurkishRaven said:

I think for us it depends on the position depth in draft. I mean Tunsil, Bosa, Ramsey, Jack they all are good players and you cannot say one is better than the other. In this case we should be thinking about the next rounds. 

If we think we can land a good DE prospect at 2nd we should pick Tunsil or Stanley with first. Or like FO said during the pre draft meeting if they think they can land a OT at 3rd round we will go defence with first two.

 

Depends on our board. If there are 5 OTs and 20 DEs and 15 CBs and Tunsil is there we get him and hope for the best.

maybe we do this - but at the end of the day ozzie and eric will take whoever is top of their board when they got on the clock regardless of their position

[ALPHA]

1 hour ago, ludy51 said:

Can we move that up to today?

Lemme check with the homie Goodell real quick

[GrimCoconut]

3 hours ago, Tyler said:

I won't argue that at all, but one Cowboys executive said That bosa is getting "Strong Consideration" at 4, and Stephen Jones apparently "Lit up" when mentioning Bosa. Casserly, Mayock, Kiper, the big "draft gurus" have just been adding to that. Like you said, it could be a smokescreen, as those become the norm days before the draft, but I see Bosa as a much better for Dallas than I ever see him being for the Ravens. Ramsey is still the dream scenario for us. 

I'm not sure I buy it, though. We'll see what happens on Thursday night, but I expect them to go with Ramsey. I won't be mad either way. I really don't care anymore. I know we are getting a top guy between Ramsey, Tunsil, or Bosa. I'm fine with it. Jacksonville is taking Jack. You can take that to the bank. 

1 hour ago, ludy51 said:

Can we move that up to today?

Lol I wish but then I would miss Gotham ...or would I? 

[cec327]

My guess is Ramsey but not Bosa since SB Nation has reported that he will hold if drafted by the Ravens.

[Deflated Football]

7 minutes ago, cec327 said:

My guess is Ramsey but not Bosa since SB Nation has reported that he will hold if drafted by the Ravens.

Wasn't that an April Fool's joke?

[52520Andrew]

6 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

Wasn't that an April Fool's joke?

It was

[cec327]

20 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

Wasn't that an April Fool's joke?

Heavens, you might be correct. I did not check the date on the article. I just did--you are right! I feel like a real dummy. Thanks for pointing it out to me. I am still laughing. No fool like an old fool.

Edited April 25, 2016 by cec327

[BmoreBird22]

1 hour ago, Dewy101 said:

Let's just agree to disagree on Buckner

That's cool with me. Everyone has those prospects they like (Kendall Fuller).

[BmoreBird22]

40 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I'm not sure I buy it, though. We'll see what happens on Thursday night, but I expect them to go with Ramsey. I won't be mad either way. I really don't care anymore. I know we are getting a top guy between Ramsey, Tunsil, or Bosa. I'm fine with it. Jacksonville is taking Jack. You can take that to the bank. 

In DJ's latest mock, he has it going Tunsil-Ramsey-Bosa (3,4,5)

Edited April 25, 2016 by BmoreBird22

[cec327]

15 minutes ago, 52520Andrew said:

It was

I am hanging my head for being so gullible although I am still laughing at myself.

[52520Andrew]

5 minutes ago, cec327 said:

I am hanging my head for being so gullible although I am still laughing at myself.

Hey, this place blew up on April 1st so you aren't alone lol

[52520Andrew]

6 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Everyone has those prospects they like (Kendall Fuller).

What about me

[BmoreBird22]

2 minutes ago, 52520Andrew said:

What about me

Maybe he'll come around when his name is called on draft night. He'll join our bandwagon.

[GrimCoconut]

11 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

In DJ's latest mock, he has it going Tunsil-Ramsey-Bosa (3,4,5)

I just don't see it that way. I would be surprised if Jacksonville went anywhere but Jack. I just don't see them taking Bosa. It could happen, but I don't see it. I think Bosa is a Raven if he falls to 5 because I think Jacksonville goes elsewhere. 

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, GrimCoconut said:

I just don't see it that way. I would be surprised if Jacksonville went anywhere but Jack. I just don't see them taking Bosa. It could happen, but I don't see it. I think Bosa is a Raven if he falls to 5 because I think Jacksonville goes elsewhere. 

I agree. He routinely mocks DeForest Buckner to the Ravens (I'm not sure he's changed that for a while) and I vehemently disagree with that.

[GrimCoconut]

Just now, BmoreBird22 said:

I agree. He routinely mocks DeForest Buckner to the Ravens (I'm not sure he's changed that for a while) and I vehemently disagree with that.

I wouldn't be surprised if we took Buckner. He has a lot of talent. I would be a bit disappointed but I'd trust in Ozzie and Eric. We'll see. He said we would go with Gordon last year, so we'll see if he's right or wrong. Hopefully Buckner goes to SD and it's not an option lol.