Tank the 2015 season, revisited.

[Passepartout]

No matter what a win is a win no matter what way you put of it.

[52520Andrew]

40 minutes ago, K-Dog said:

I am not arguing with anything you are saying.  I am simply saying, having a top ten pick is not the be all end all of a successful draft. Or a successful team. 
Case in point.  As much as WE ALL HATE the Patriots, they are one of the winningest teams in the past ten to fifteen years.  Their record can not be argued.  They have picked top ten TWICE since 2000.    I am trying to find out what team has had the MOST top ten picks in the past ten years.  I have a hunch they are an occasional  contender at best.  ( although I could be wrong, I just don't think I am )
 

For sure, we have to hit on our picks but I have faith in the guys to get the job done in that department. 

As for the Patriots, as much as I hate Bill and Brady, they are both great and I think a good head coach QB combo goes a long way to a team being successful. They have not had any top picks lately either but they do hit on their picks better than we have recently. 

I do think you can continue to be good even picking late and losing free agents but it is a losing battle as you have to hit on the picks you do get and keep ahead of free agency. A run like they have had is nothing short of amazing and they deserve all the credit in the world for keeping it going. In other news, I need to throw up but I will bring up other examples. Even a team like Seattle is slowly starting to slip back to the average NFL team. The Steelers have had their share of average seasons. The Bengals are finally getting to the point where being good is starting to weigh on them. The Packers have their share of holes(although again a good QB goes a long way to contending). It is really hard to stay as good as we did for as long as we did. 

But basically it is very hard to stay contending in the current NFL and the Ravens have had a great run at it but this past season was time for us to take our medicine and rebuild. With luck, we will have another draft like 2008 and be set for more contending seasons. Hopefully we hit our first 2 picks out of the park and get some guys to help us get back to winning. I like a lot of the moves we have made in FA but the pressure is on with this draft and I'd say this is our most important one since 2008 by far. 

[allblackraven]

49 minutes ago, RavensFanMania said:

We should all lay off of Winchester.  He's absolutely right.  He's always right and we know it.  Winchester believes 1 + 1 equals 11 and there is no way around it.

That's not 11, it's a roided up 2

[RavensFanMania]

8 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

That's not 11, it's a roided up 2

lmao

[usmccharles]

3 hours ago, allblackraven said:

That's not 11, it's a roided up 2

This wins for the week

[usmccharles]

On ‎4‎/‎23‎/‎2016 at 4:38 AM, K-Dog said:

That's a smart post right there.

 

BTW, we won two super bowls.  I wonder were we picked two or three years prior. 

As a matter of fact I would like to see where the past ten Super Bowl winners picked two or three years prior. 

Ask and you shall receive

Denver 23,31,28

NE 29,52,21

Seattle 62,15,25

Baltimore 35,27,43

Giants 19,15,29

Packers 23,9,36

Saints 14,7,27

Steelers 23,15,25

Giants 31,20,32

Colts 30,29,44

[Winchester]

18 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

After reading this, I'm willing to up the price of a coherent paragraph to $10.

 

I'll pay you $100 to post a pic of yourself. 

Edited April 25, 2016 by Winchester

[usmccharles]

2 minutes ago, Winchester said:

3 fat ugly nerds ashamed to show what he looks like is not better than one buff guy. Theres some math for you dude

Nerds? The world is ran by nerds, im sure Bill Gates is just fine with the way he looks.  Also greater than less than game was never fun to me as a kid.  One Buff Guy sounds like a odd tv show

[allblackraven]

6 minutes ago, Winchester said:

3 fat ugly nerds ashamed to show what he looks like is not better than one buff guy. Theres some math for you dude

Ashamed?

[Winchester]

4 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Nerds? The world is ran by nerds, im sure Bill Gates is just fine with the way he looks.  Also greater than less than game was never fun to me as a kid.  One Buff Guy sounds like a odd tv show

There is a difference between rich powerful guy and nerd

[usmccharles]

5 minutes ago, Winchester said:

There is a difference between rich powerful guy and nerd

Man, I just don't get you...

[Winchester]

21 hours ago, Tru11 said:

tanking or hoping to loose just for better picks tells me you dont have a winner mentality and personally i would hate to have people on my side with anything team related.

i have more respect for a 0-16 team that fought every single game trying to get a win then any other team tanked or lost on purpose regardless of the standing.

wont ever approve or respect anyone with a losers mentality.

Totally agree. On some points. 2-14 7-9 10-6 if you did not win the superbowl  you are a loser. No difference. So I would prefer to build toward a championship the following year. Anybody that would settle for 10-6 and a playoff Loss is not a winner mentality.

[Winchester]

7 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Man, I just don't get you...

I'm sure you dont. A lot of things you probably don't get

[usmccharles]

Just now, Winchester said:

I'm sure you dont. A lot of things you probably don't get

Haha, ok.  Continue the name calling and all. 

Back on topic. 

[Winchester]

15 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Haha, ok.  Continue the name calling and all. 

Back on topic. 

Name calling?? Think you got wrong idea. Lmao I was not referring to that.b But you are in that  name calling mode. Remember it was you guys that went off topic in the first place. 

Edited April 25, 2016 by Winchester
Add on

[Winchester]

5 hours ago, RavensFanMania said:

lmao

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[usmccharles]

16 minutes ago, Winchester said:

Name calling?? Think you got wrong idea. Lmao I was not referring to that.b But you are in that  name calling mode. Remember it was you guys that went off topic in the first place. 

You are the one who said fat ugly nerds.  We were merely joking about your inability at punctuation.  But lets just stop here, we aren't talking football, lets get back on topic, PM a response if you want so we don't keep polluting this thread

Edited April 25, 2016 by usmccharles

[Tank 92]

1 hour ago, allblackraven said:

Ashamed?

Whatever is in the pipe is making your ears stick out.   lol

[Tru11]

1 hour ago, Winchester said:

Totally agree. On some points. 2-14 7-9 10-6 if you did not win the superbowl  you are a loser. No difference. So I would prefer to build toward a championship the following year. Anybody that would settle for 10-6 and a playoff Loss is not a winner mentality.

i rather go 10-6 and loose in the play offs then go 2-14 just to pick high if that where the options.

however winning the SB is and always will be my goal.

heck i rather got 3-13 then 2-14 if that where the options.

Whatever option gives me the most wins will be the option i will always take.

 

[usmccharles]

15 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

i rather go 10-6 and loose in the play offs then go 2-14 just to pick high if that where the options.

however winning the SB is and always will be my goal.

heck i rather got 3-13 then 2-14 if that where the options.

Whatever option gives me the most wins will be the option i will always take.

 

The thing is, everyone wants a better draft pick.  If we so happen to of only won 1 game, so be it, but to lose on purpose is just nonsense.

[K-Dog]

3 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Ask and you shall receive

Denver 23,31,28

NE 29,52,21

Seattle 62,15,25

Baltimore 35,27,43

Giants 19,15,29

Packers 23,9,36

Saints 14,7,27

Steelers 23,15,25

Giants 31,20,32

Colts 30,29,44

Two top ten picks on that list. A 7 and a 9. Furthers my point. 

 

Thanks for finding that for me.

Edited April 25, 2016 by K-Dog

[usmccharles]

1 minute ago, K-Dog said:

Two top ten picks on that list. A 7 and a 9. Furthers my point. 

Yea, I agree with your point to an extent. Others who are freaking out about not picking high enough when we are 6. Of course you want your picks higher, unless your at 32

[Tru11]

1 hour ago, usmccharles said:

The thing is, everyone wants a better draft pick.  If we so happen to of only won 1 game, so be it, but to lose on purpose is just nonsense.

i dont want a high pick.

i want the lowest pick per round.

picking 32 means we won the SB.

picking 1 means i we had a season to forget.

heck id forfeit the draft if that means we will win each and every SB....

people that want high picks should support the browns.
they manage to land those at quite an impressive rate.

[usmccharles]

31 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

i dont want a high pick.

i want the lowest pick per round.

picking 32 means we won the SB.

picking 1 means i we had a season to forget.

heck id forfeit the draft if that means we will win each and every SB....

people that want high picks should support the browns.
they manage to land those at quite an impressive rate.

You know what I mean lol. 

I have no doubt we make huge strides in this draft. 

[rmcjacket23]

5 hours ago, Winchester said:

I'll pay you $100 to post a pic of yourself. 

Purpose?

[harfordravenfan]

This thread is getting better than the dump thread but back on topic...

Great info on only 2 top 10 picks prior to teams winning the SB.

[berad]

There were some good posts in this thread and some not so good ones. Probably best to close it down, it's deviated from where it was meant to go.