Eugene Monroe Thread (merged) - Released by Ravens

[PurpleCity5]

Look people, he doesn't want to be here. the FO asked him to bulk up, he slimmed down, they told him to take a pay cut, he refused to, they told him if he would be willing to commit and he didn't. I don't see why you keep someone who clearly doesn't see eye-to-eye with you. That's not only a problem for the organization but to his teammates as well. There's no use in that, if he didn't want to stay then clearly you let him go. He's disgruntled with the team and he'll take that to the field too. 

They held him out of mini-camp, that means they had no plans for him to stick around. My guess is that he was meant for a June 1st cut. They kept him around in hopes that they will find a trade partner, they couldn't so they cut him. Also, what's the difference between cutting him now and after FA? It doesn't matter considering there wasn't much left for us, he wouldn't have been a June 1st cut so we wouldn't have gotten anything. In addition it would have made us more desperate for Stanley. 

Edited June 16, 2016 by PurpleCity5

[ALPHA]

It's unfortunate we couldn't come to an agreement or compromise but thats the nature of the business, it has to work for both sides and sometimes it doesn't and you go separate ways. 

[Winchester]

9 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I really hope Wagner gets resigned. That would allow us to finally get stability on the line. Having him and Stanley together the next 4 or 5 years with yanda finishing out his career between them and the likes of Alex Lewis or jensen or urschel beginning their career as starters at the opposite guard spot... 

I'd hate to finally get a LT long term onlY to experiment and fail on the right side and watch Joe run for his life again.

If Wagner returns to the top shelf I would say he is priority over Williams without question!! If ravens return to the 4-3 then Williams could be expendable. Especially if Carl Davis works out as planned. In that case in a 4-3 Davis Jernigan and Henry is very capable. Williams will not get a $100mil contract but ravens will not pay a run stuffer $50mil. Especially after a run stuffer heavy draft

[Tru11]

21 minutes ago, Winchester said:

If Wagner returns to the top shelf I would say he is priority over Williams without question!! If ravens return to the 4-3 then Williams could be expendable. Especially if Carl Davis works out as planned. In that case in a 4-3 Davis Jernigan and Henry is very capable. Williams will not get a $100mil contract but ravens will not pay a run stuffer $50mil. Especially after a run stuffer heavy draft

unless pees get fired we wont be running the 4-3 any time soon.

 

[usmccharles]

53 minutes ago, Winchester said:

If Wagner returns to the top shelf I would say he is priority over Williams without question!! If ravens return to the 4-3 then Williams could be expendable. Especially if Carl Davis works out as planned. In that case in a 4-3 Davis Jernigan and Henry is very capable. Williams will not get a $100mil contract but ravens will not pay a run stuffer $50mil. Especially after a run stuffer heavy draft

I was worried about losing Williams in FA next year but then I remember how well we develop the DL players.  The thing is, we need to have continuous pieces on defense and offense, like how we had Suggs and Ngata for so long, IMO, we need to have that again.  I would like to keep Williams but his agent knows he can get more money in FA, hes going to get paid. 

31 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

unless pees get fired we wont be running the 4-3 any time soon.

 

A lot of people seem to think we are moving that way and have said they seen us lining up ways implying of hybrid type system.  It will be interesting. 

[cobrajet]

6 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Unless Ozzie manages to use extra money to acquire a player in a trade or a vet or two after cuts, or even resign Williams or Wagner then this move will be completely unnecessary. 

We need to capitalize on the money because now our LT depth outside of Stanley is scary. We could have had Monroe either play RT or as an awesome insurance policy if either tackle was roughed up for a game

I agree and with the way this team has been experiencing injuries - cutting Monroe may end up biting us in the butt. Look what happened last year to Joe because of a LT who could not handle the pass rush. I just do not think this whole thing was handled right and I do not put all the blame on Monroe. He won't last long on the free agent market. If things were handled a little more professionally and dignified, Eugene could have given us good depth on the o-line. IMHO, Joe is coming off a major knee injury and you need to give him all the protection you can possibly give!!!!!! Handling Monroe the way they did and creating all this bad blood and now cutting him because things are too sour does not sit well with me. IMHO, I feel that they just cut off their nose to spite their face and I do not like the way it all went down.

[Desert]

6 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

Look people, he doesn't want to be here. the FO asked him to bulk up, he slimmed down, they told him to take a pay cut, he refused to, they told him if he would be willing to commit and he didn't. I don't see why you keep someone who clearly doesn't see eye-to-eye with you. That's not only a problem for the organization but to his teammates as well. There's no use in that, if he didn't want to stay then clearly you let him go. He's disgruntled with the team and he'll take that to the field too. 

They held him out of mini-camp, that means they had no plans for him to stick around. My guess is that he was meant for a June 1st cut. They kept him around in hopes that they will find a trade partner, they couldn't so they cut him. Also, what's the difference between cutting him now and after FA? It doesn't matter considering there wasn't much left for us, he wouldn't have been a June 1st cut so we wouldn't have gotten anything. In addition it would have made us more desperate for Stanley. 

agree totally....... 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

6 hours ago, Winchester said:

If Wagner returns to the top shelf I would say he is priority over Williams without question!! If ravens return to the 4-3 then Williams could be expendable. Especially if Carl Davis works out as planned. In that case in a 4-3 Davis Jernigan and Henry is very capable. Williams will not get a $100mil contract but ravens will not pay a run stuffer $50mil. Especially after a run stuffer heavy draft

Pees all but squashed that rumor of switching to a 4-3. 

He basically said what ive thought all along. We'll run some 4-3 looks like we always have... i think his exact words were that we're a 3-4 base with 4-3 tendencies. We're not really one or the other and never will be. We're multiple and will continue to be.... and that flexibility to seamlessly transition from one front to another is an asset and something they wont diverge from.

While, yes, i do think they purposely added personnel that fits a 4-3 better, i dont think it was to make a permanent switch or become more of a 4-3... its just to make those looks more effective and have a deeper rotation of guys that fit. I mean our LBs didnt quite fit a 4-3 perfectly, but now with a guy like Correa you have someone that can easily go from 3-4 OLB to 4-3 OLB while the other (Suggs, Doom, Z) can put his hand in the dirt and play DE. We also have more guys now like Kaufusi and Urban who can go easily from 3-4 DE to 4-3 DE without it being forced or losing effectiveness.

So, i dont think these personnel additions are because we're switching to MORE 4-3.... i think its so that the 4-3 we run is done so more effectively, and so we have the pieces within a single personnel package to easily show a 3-4 front, quick drop a LB down and be 4-3 in the blink of an eye.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

7 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

Look people, he doesn't want to be here. the FO asked him to bulk up, he slimmed down, they told him to take a pay cut, he refused to, they told him if he would be willing to commit and he didn't. I don't see why you keep someone who clearly doesn't see eye-to-eye with you. That's not only a problem for the organization but to his teammates as well. There's no use in that, if he didn't want to stay then clearly you let him go. He's disgruntled with the team and he'll take that to the field too. 

They held him out of mini-camp, that means they had no plans for him to stick around. My guess is that he was meant for a June 1st cut. They kept him around in hopes that they will find a trade partner, they couldn't so they cut him. Also, what's the difference between cutting him now and after FA? It doesn't matter considering there wasn't much left for us, he wouldn't have been a June 1st cut so we wouldn't have gotten anything. In addition it would have made us more desperate for Stanley. 

Look, i get all this.. and for the most part agree.

But -- looking at it objectively, the things you listed as Monroe doing that ticked the team off - none of those things are totally on him. Bulk up? First, it can be difficult to do. Adding 15-20 lbs of muscle is a HUGE lifestyle commitment, and can be extremely difficult on an already cut frame. I'm sure Monroe felt he knows his body best, and felt he performs better when slimmed down for more mobility. That's not egregious.

2nd, on the pay cut or restructure... Both sides signed a contract. If Monroe was demanding more money -- the team, and us fans would have laughed at him... even if he was performing at a top level. I know chances are they werent going to pay him much less if at all, it may have been a simple salary to bonus transfer... but it also could have been a Webb like, straight cut. He's well within his rights NOT to do that. Both sides agreed to a contract and Monroe was honoring it. It's the team who wanted to change it, and theyre well within their rights to ask for it, but not be sour and ticked off when he doesnt. We bash players when the opposite happens.

I'm not sure what the "willing to commit" and him not doing so is in reference to, so i cant comment on that. But, they clearly were upset about him being outspoken on the marijuana stuff. Brendan Ayanbadejo was very outspoken in support of gay marriage, spoke at a white house event i believe and on many media outlets.... and that idea goes against Harbaughs religious beliefs - and the team neither supported nor denied support for him. Monroe has some very valid points and arguments for his cause. The team doesnt have to agree or openly support him; but to come out publicly and firmly distance yourself from it is a little off-putting.

 

On the idea of why keep a guy if you dont see eye-to-eye?? I cant agree. These are professional athletes - lots of personalities and beliefs. If every team let go of every person that didnt see eye-to-eye, there wouldnt be any teams. Yea, this got a little more contentious than most situations - but honestly i think if you look at it objectively its just as much IF NOT MORE the organizations fault than it was Monroe's (at least judging by the information we have). 

Why keep a guy you dont see eye to eye with? Well, because if he makes your team better, you owe it to the other 52 guys on the team who work their tails off to try and win, to assemble your best possible talent. If you invest another $100 mill in your QB, you owe it to him to give him the best protection possible, and not chance another situation like what happened last year bc you have no depth at tackle. And because you're in the business of winning, not being best friends. If Monroe is one of your top lineman, you bite the bullet for a year to give everybody the best chance to win.... especially since youre just as much at fault for not seeing eye to eye.

If the team shipped off Pollard, Reed, Boldin, etc.... as soon as they didnt see eye to eye with the coach and team we wouldnt have had a ring in 2012. Now, yes, those players were performing on the field at the time so its easier to bite that bullet. But still, the team was just as active in hurting the relationship with the player, as the player was in reacting.

This is football. Now, if they had a back up plan or an equal alternative before making this decision then id be ok with it. But, to just out and out cut him with nothing in return, eating $6.5m in dead money, and now having only a rookie LT to rely on as our first option with an UDFA GOD AWFUL guy as our backup... its an irresponsible and immature decision imo.

Monroes rubbed me the wrong way, and ive grown just as tired of his antics as the next guy. But i also recognize that when healthy hes probably our best option at LT and even if not, hes 1000000000x better back up option. Id easily forget all the noise if Stanley went down and i experience that sigh of relief knowing "thank goodness Monroe is here." Now, if that happens we're probably as good as cooked. And if Hurst ends up starting like 6 games and we're in playoff position going into that stretch, and after we're knocked out of a wild card - i dont want to hear anyone complaining about the FO or Harbs not having a better back up option.

Or if stanleys not quite ready this year, and the left side of our line with 2 first time starters really struggles and we cant run the ball, or Joes getting murdered off the left side - i dont want to hear any complaints. I better hear only cheers about how its worth it bc at least one of our players isnt tweeting about marijuana. 

[RaineV1]

I understand wanting to keep him around for depth, but since he missed so much time while he was here we aren't really losing much with him being gone. If he was even the least bit reliable we wouldn't have had to draft Stanley in the first place.

[someyoungguy]

I'm an arm chair GM. I don't understand why we alienate and release a potential pro bowl LT and welcome back an aging WR. As a fan I'm less concerned if a guy believes in a little puff, puff give than having a once dynamic player who will last half of the year. Don't get me wrong,  i like the old guy (I'm from his generation) however he hasn't been willing to alter his playing style in order to stay on the field and be effective. Memo to old guys everywhere: We know you were tough when you were 20...now that your almost 40 play with your head first. We will forgive you if you run out of bounds sometime.  I digress. We have to protect Joe better. Couldn't that veteran LT contribute to that when he was healthy and happy? No offense to the rookie LT but would you protect Bentley with a BB gun? 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

4 minutes ago, someyoungguy said:

I'm an arm chair GM. I don't understand why we alienate and release a potential pro bowl LT and welcome back an aging WR. As a fan I'm less concerned if a guy believes in a little puff, puff give than having a once dynamic player who will last half of the year. Don't get me wrong,  i like the old guy (I'm from his generation) however he hasn't been willing to alter his playing style in order to stay on the field and be effective. Memo to old guys everywhere: We know you were tough when you were 20...now that your almost 40 play with your head first. We will forgive you if you run out of bounds sometime.  I digress. We have to protect Joe better. Couldn't that veteran LT contribute to that when he was healthy and happy? No offense to the rookie LT but would you protect Bentley with a BB gun? 

In before the merge...

Yo bud, theres already an entire thread discussing Monroe's release. Post there, no need to create a thread for something thats clearly already being discussed. See you're new... so for future reference, make sure you look at all the active threads before creatiing one. If what you're going to say fits in, even a little bit, with an already active thread - just post it as a comment there.

Otherwise we'd have a million threads with one or two posts each. Its a mess.

[Cville-Raven]

Are you referring to Sr? If so I would take him over injury prone Monroe every day of the week. 

[atomicfront]

12 hours ago, VeiledPsychosis said:

Let's also not forget that Newsome has drafted multiple hall of famers and is almost unanimously considered one of, if not the, best GMs in the league. Don't know why you clearly have a dislike for him but you are pretty much alone on this one, not only here but amongst all fanbases as well.

The scouts who scouted those hall of fame quality players are long gone.  

[berad]

1 hour ago, someyoungguy said:

I'm an arm chair GM. I don't understand why we alienate and release a potential pro bowl LT and welcome back an aging WR. As a fan I'm less concerned if a guy believes in a little puff, puff give than having a once dynamic player who will last half of the year. Don't get me wrong,  i like the old guy (I'm from his generation) however he hasn't been willing to alter his playing style in order to stay on the field and be effective. Memo to old guys everywhere: We know you were tough when you were 20...now that your almost 40 play with your head first. We will forgive you if you run out of bounds sometime.  I digress. We have to protect Joe better. Couldn't that veteran LT contribute to that when he was healthy and happy? No offense to the rookie LT but would you protect Bentley with a BB gun? 

"Old guy" Steve was on the field a hell of a lot more than "potentially" good Eugene Monroe.

Maybe it just came down to that? Eugene was paid $17,500 for every snap since his new deal. Was it worth it?

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

27 minutes ago, atomicfront said:

The scouts who scouted those hall of fame quality players are long gone.  

No theyre not. Theyre now just running the FO and scouting department.

[cobrajet]

4 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Look, i get all this.. and for the most part agree.

But -- looking at it objectively, the things you listed as Monroe doing that ticked the team off - none of those things are totally on him. Bulk up? First, it can be difficult to do. Adding 15-20 lbs of muscle is a HUGE lifestyle commitment, and can be extremely difficult on an already cut frame. I'm sure Monroe felt he knows his body best, and felt he performs better when slimmed down for more mobility. That's not egregious.

2nd, on the pay cut or restructure... Both sides signed a contract. If Monroe was demanding more money -- the team, and us fans would have laughed at him... even if he was performing at a top level. I know chances are they werent going to pay him much less if at all, it may have been a simple salary to bonus transfer... but it also could have been a Webb like, straight cut. He's well within his rights NOT to do that. Both sides agreed to a contract and Monroe was honoring it. It's the team who wanted to change it, and theyre well within their rights to ask for it, but not be sour and ticked off when he doesnt. We bash players when the opposite happens.

I'm not sure what the "willing to commit" and him not doing so is in reference to, so i cant comment on that. But, they clearly were upset about him being outspoken on the marijuana stuff. Brendan Ayanbadejo was very outspoken in support of gay marriage, spoke at a white house event i believe and on many media outlets.... and that idea goes against Harbaughs religious beliefs - and the team neither supported nor denied support for him. Monroe has some very valid points and arguments for his cause. The team doesnt have to agree or openly support him; but to come out publicly and firmly distance yourself from it is a little off-putting.

 

On the idea of why keep a guy if you dont see eye-to-eye?? I cant agree. These are professional athletes - lots of personalities and beliefs. If every team let go of every person that didnt see eye-to-eye, there wouldnt be any teams. Yea, this got a little more contentious than most situations - but honestly i think if you look at it objectively its just as much IF NOT MORE the organizations fault than it was Monroe's (at least judging by the information we have). 

Why keep a guy you dont see eye to eye with? Well, because if he makes your team better, you owe it to the other 52 guys on the team who work their tails off to try and win, to assemble your best possible talent. If you invest another $100 mill in your QB, you owe it to him to give him the best protection possible, and not chance another situation like what happened last year bc you have no depth at tackle. And because you're in the business of winning, not being best friends. If Monroe is one of your top lineman, you bite the bullet for a year to give everybody the best chance to win.... especially since youre just as much at fault for not seeing eye to eye.

If the team shipped off Pollard, Reed, Boldin, etc.... as soon as they didnt see eye to eye with the coach and team we wouldnt have had a ring in 2012. Now, yes, those players were performing on the field at the time so its easier to bite that bullet. But still, the team was just as active in hurting the relationship with the player, as the player was in reacting.

This is football. Now, if they had a back up plan or an equal alternative before making this decision then id be ok with it. But, to just out and out cut him with nothing in return, eating $6.5m in dead money, and now having only a rookie LT to rely on as our first option with an UDFA GOD AWFUL guy as our backup... its an irresponsible and immature decision imo.

Monroes rubbed me the wrong way, and ive grown just as tired of his antics as the next guy. But i also recognize that when healthy hes probably our best option at LT and even if not, hes 1000000000x better back up option. Id easily forget all the noise if Stanley went down and i experience that sigh of relief knowing "thank goodness Monroe is here." Now, if that happens we're probably as good as cooked. And if Hurst ends up starting like 6 games and we're in playoff position going into that stretch, and after we're knocked out of a wild card - i dont want to hear anyone complaining about the FO or Harbs not having a better back up option.

Or if stanleys not quite ready this year, and the left side of our line with 2 first time starters really struggles and we cant run the ball, or Joes getting murdered off the left side - i dont want to hear any complaints. I better hear only cheers about how its worth it bc at least one of our players isnt tweeting about marijuana. 

I agree with you and I feel the same way about losing depth and the risks associated with Joe coming back from a major knee injury and not giving him the best possible protection. I also don't understand why everyone is downing him for getting injured. The guy finally got the much needed shoulder surgery that was nagging him for years and he states that he is now healthier than he has been in years. I was excited to hear that because when healthy, Eugene is a fairly decent LT. He may not be a road grader in the run game but he is a fairly good LT in pass protection.

I am not fully there with his marihuana pain relief push, but maybe the guy has someone that he is close with that has or had an opiate addiction and was leary of taking opiates after his surgery and feels that given a choice, the marihuana would be a safer choice for pain relief. Even if the organization does not like Monroe's crusade they have to admit that Eugene has a somewhat valid argument. IMHO there was no real need to publicly distance yourself so loudly from one of your veteran players, especially one who plays such a key position of need.

We all probably feel that Eugene has really not lived up to his big contract because of the injuries. However, if we were in Eugene's shoes, would we really agree to a pay cut. Honestly, I doubt I would. It seems that the organization got a bug up there backside over it. Drafting Stanley was a smart move because we could use some quality depth at LT, especially after the way Hurst played last season and the departure of K.O. On the right side, we still have Yanda, that can swing out, if Wagner gets injured.

The Ravens were really quick to point out that the LT position was open competition and may the best man win. I can see how that can be off putting to Eugene who is a veteran LT with years of experience. I think if the organization was a little more tactful and said something to the effect that, "Yes we are going to have open competition but right now Monroe's our guy/starter, we trust his experience, and glad that he is healthy." even if deep down they were rooting for Stanley to win the competition for the LT spot. Last week they even went as far as to say they expect Stanley will win the job. I just think it is a slap in the face, when a veteran knows he has open competition with a first round draft pick and then the coach gives all the reps to the first round pick and tells him to sit because they don't want to risk injury while they are shopping him around for a trade. I know I would feel disrespected and probably most others would to. I just don't think you handle a veteran player like that. It is a little disrespectful.

I don't know all the behind the scene stuff, and I am somewhat sure that Eugene was no saint either, but I am kind of feeling that organization has a little culpability in the rift that occurred with Eugene. Maybe, just maybe, the coach and front office could have used a little more tact in how they handled a veteran who truly believed in a cause and I don't have to be happy about it. We either just lost our best LT or a high quality back who is far ahead of the rest. This comes at a time when our franchise quarterback needs as much protection as possible coming off an injury. It is bad enough to lose high caliber player at a such a critical position due to injury but to terminate the contract of a player at a critical position because you can't get along, when you played a part in the dispute, does not sit well with me.

To put things in perspective for me, we had a wide receiver who could not contribute on offense and could not hold on to a ball on returns to save his life and the Baltimore County Police arrested him for actually possessing marihuana and had enough probable cause to execute a search warrant on his home. The guy apparently did not learn his lesson the first time as this was his second arrest for marihuana and the organization stuck by him. If I was the owner I would have booted him off the team in a New York minute and I tried to make a case for that on here. Maybe reports will come out with details not made public right now about Eugene and I maybe will feel differently then, but right now I am just upset.

Edited June 16, 2016 by cobrajet
added information and grammer correction

[berad]

Even in his 'going away post' Eugene spams for marijuana. At least he didn't say he was cut because of it.

 

[ALPHA]

I like that he's an advocate for medicinal use of cannabis, you don't have to be a smoker to understand the science but he should have waited until his career was over. Can't mix politics with football.

[cobrajet]

17 minutes ago, berad said:

Even in his 'going away post' Eugene spams for marijuana. At least he didn't say he was cut because of it.

 

You have to give him credit for giving love to our city and us Raven fans. He was classy that he did not say anything bad about our organization, not even a back handed comment.

[FastEddie]

Mediocre Eugene...

[edthehead]

maybe I am mean

but I would have kept him right up until game time before his release

I would have forced him into a pay cut if still no, ok

now you are cut,

that is me, way to stay classy FO,

may not like it but the FO seems like they will always do what is right for the team

 

[JoeyFlex5]

Eugene marijuanroe.

[443hurricane]

He played 17 games and got 17 million guaranteed.

 

So 1 million per game.. I love Eugene Monroe that's called compensation folks!

[Tru11]

8 minutes ago, 443hurricane said:

He played 17 games and got 17 million guaranteed.

 

So 1 million per game.. I love Eugene Monroe that's called compensation folks!

i have seen worse.

again though who exactly are you and who has been singing your praise?

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

1 hour ago, 443hurricane said:

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2016/6/16/11951870/espns-jamison-hensley-says-eugene-monroes-contract-worst-in-franchise

That article is stupid. It's literally just an opinion piece - probably your opinion piece.

To say Monroe's contract was worse than Foxworth's, Rice's, Webb's or Pitta's is a joke. 

Monroe didnt get paid like a top player at his position (3 other LT's signed for more money the same offseason), and at least played decent when he was on the field.

Fox got paid like a top CB, was injured the hwole time, and when he wasnt was HORRIBLE. Rice declined as soon as he got the money (top RB type money) and then gets himself banned strapping us with a mess of cap space. It crippled us. Webb got paid like a top CB, hasnt been healthy, and again even when healthy has been average at best... and was paid so much and got injured so early in his deal that we literally couldnt do anything with it other than to ride it out and hope he improved. Didnt happen.

And pitta same thing. His might be the worst just based on the fact that we gave him all the money after 3 games of returning from a horrific injury, that he went on to suffer again soon after. I liked all these deals at the time of signing (except Rices), but again with Pitta we had no chance but to hold out hope he could come back or that he'd retired bc the dead money charge wouldve been astronomical.

 

All hurt the team WAY more than Monroe's. He didnt play much, but at least when he did he was pretty good. And he's leaving us with very little dead money hit. Its very very manageable.

[Tru11]

21 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

That article is stupid. It's literally just an opinion piece - probably your opinion piece.

To say Monroe's contract was worse than Foxworth's, Rice's, Webb's or Pitta's is a joke. 

Monroe didnt get paid like a top player at his position (3 other LT's signed for more money the same offseason), and at least played decent when he was on the field.

Fox got paid like a top CB, was injured the hwole time, and when he wasnt was HORRIBLE. Rice declined as soon as he got the money (top RB type money) and then gets himself banned strapping us with a mess of cap space. It crippled us. Webb got paid like a top CB, hasnt been healthy, and again even when healthy has been average at best... and was paid so much and got injured so early in his deal that we literally couldnt do anything with it other than to ride it out and hope he improved. Didnt happen.

And pitta same thing. His might be the worst just based on the fact that we gave him all the money after 3 games of returning from a horrific injury, that he went on to suffer again soon after. I liked all these deals at the time of signing (except Rices), but again with Pitta we had no chance but to hold out hope he could come back or that he'd retired bc the dead money charge wouldve been astronomical.

 

All hurt the team WAY more than Monroe's. He didnt play much, but at least when he did he was pretty good. And he's leaving us with very little dead money hit. Its very very manageable.

pitta played in 2 games and got injured early in the 3rd yet has gotten 16 mil guaranteed lel.

 

[Ravenslifer]

Everyone knew this was coming after the first night of the draft.  You don't draft a guy 6th overall and not expect him to start at left tackle in the near future.  Monroe still had 3 years left on his deal, there was no way Stanley was playing RT or LG for 3 years and then making the switch to LT.  At most it would have been one season, I just think the combination of Monroe's injury history and off-the field stance plus the fact that they like what they've seen from Stanley so far in OTAs prompted this move sooner.

[GrimCoconut]

Someone asked why we would ask him to bulk up. I assume it's because we wanted him to be better in the run game I never had an issue with him as a pass pro, but his run blocking wasn't always the best or most consistent. That said see you, Eugene. I wish you'd have panned out. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

18 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Someone asked why we would ask him to bulk up. I assume it's because we wanted him to be better in the run game I never had an issue with him as a pass pro, but his run blocking wasn't always the best or most consistent. That said see you, Eugene. I wish you'd have panned out. 

I guess you could say that his future isn't "potted" yet