[News] How Browns-Eagles Trade Affects Ravens

[JimmyBlack]

I would still go down the board of BPA and take Tunsil, Ramsey, Buckner, Bosa, or Jack.

[bioLarzen]

2 hours ago, Crusader said:

This trade made no difference. Browns were probably going to pick a QB any way but I think they wised up and going to build up all their other positions then find a QB. This is bad news for Ravens. All those picks could push Ravens into forth place in coming years. Nothing last forever not even Browns miseries.

Don't believe everything the mock drafts suggest - for a lot of times those who make the mocks are in the dark just as much as we, simple fans are... It was not at all sure that the Browns would have picked a QB - if that was their real intent, they wouldn't traded the #2 pick, would they?
And anyway, more and more draft analyses concluded that the Browns would have much more probably picked one of the real stars of the class: Tunsil, Ramsey or Jack - maybe even Elliott.

Edited April 20, 2016 by bioLarzen

[bioLarzen]

Many people think the Eagles actually traded up there to grab Elliott from the Cowboys, not to grab "the other QB" - so, right now it's anything but sure that they are going to go for a QB, too...

We'll see.

Edited April 20, 2016 by bioLarzen

[whobilly]

  2 hours ago, Crusader said:

This trade made no difference. Browns were probably going to pick a QB any way but I think they wised up and going to build up all their other positions then find a QB. This is bad news for Ravens. All those picks could push Ravens into forth place in coming years. Nothing last forever not even Browns miseries.

Are you finished with your hypothetical crusade? Don't forget the Ravens are going to pick a stellar player or 3 in this draft. And we are a pretty complete team even before the draft. QBs make or break a team and I don't see RGIII doing anything substantial in Cleveland period. In a few years they may find out that this was the worst trade they ever partook in even worse than their myriad blunders with draft picks.

The Browns WILL ALWAYS be 5 years away from being 5 years away

[The Greek]

i am afraid of jacks knee. ramsey tunsil bosa buckner or trading back just a few slots for more picks works for me

[bioLarzen]

4 minutes ago, jravens1313 said:

Josh Norman just became an unrestricted FA. This is the one player I would sign to a big deal, knowing our struggle to find a quality CB to play opposite Jimmy Smith and that we are not in position in draft one in the 1st Round.

Remember the Asomugha-fiasco in Philadelphia a couple of easons ago? And he has many more great seasons than Norman.

I'm, not saying Norman is not a great player of course - but he almost certainly haven't yet earned the kind of money a cap-space happy team with a need of a playmaker will throw at him. He had one great season. And that's gonna make him rich - somewhere else. I don't think we'll be in the Norman-sweepstakes at all. It's gonna be athe KO-scenario: a good player - but someone's gonna overpay him. And that's not gonna be Ozzie.

 

(Also, some analysts suspect there might be something in tha bckground here we don't know about: throwing away such a promising player when they could have found a way to keep him... That's at least suspicious...)

[Swift 1]

Now I am upset about the strength of schedule BS with Jax

 

[whobilly]

Many people think the Eagles actually traded up there to grab Elliott from the Cowboys, not to grab "the other QB" - so, right now it's anything but sure that they are going to go for a QB, too...

We'll see.

Carson Wentz will be the Eagles pick. Better for the Ravens.

[usmccharles]

Great trade by the Browns.  I do believe things will be a lot different there.  They can get some good pieces to build a foundation, im sure they will be picking top 5 again next year.  Not sure about QBs next year, so i dont know what possibility there is there.  I just think Hue Jackson will somewhat turn things around, but they need a QB at some point

[robbie29]

Josh Norman just became a FA. Even though he's likely priced out of the Ravens' ability to sign him, you may as well get ready for articles like "How would Norman fit with the Ravens?" and "Would the Ravens sign Norman?" I guess if I wrote for the Ravens, that's probably what I'd write about too since there's been an overdose of draft speculation and guessing at this point.

 

Oh yeah- this comment has to relate to the article, so.....great news about the Browns/Eagles trade! Our chances of getting exactly who we want just went up even more! Go Ravens!

Edited April 20, 2016 by robbie29

[cbrook1862]

i am afraid of jacks knee. ramsey tunsil bosa buckner or trading back just a few slots for more picks works for me

I was just thinking the same thing, our first pick needs to be someone who can contribute on the field immediately, no someone we have to redshirt and wait to get healthy, and even if he does play his rookie season, he still may have a injury riddled career. I also have a gut feeling Tunsil will turn out to be a bust.

[cbrook1862]

It doesn't affect the Ravens one bit. Whomever was in the second spot, be it Cleveland or someone dumb enough to give them a bunch of draft picks (wonder who that is) to get to #2, they were going to take a QB. Now, if only the Ravens could find another dummy willing to give up the farm for the #6 pick. As P.T. Barnum said "There is a sucker born every minute".

We all know how dumb the Browns are, I think it was definitely possible the Browns were satisfied with RG3 and Josh McCown, who played pretty decent this season which means they could've taken Ramsey instead of a qb. The Eagles moving to 2 makes it nearly a lock that 2 qb's will be taken before we pick.

[mearzunkies]

I hope to goodness that the Chargers take Tunsil so we don't mess around and take him over someone like Jack,Buckner or *crosses my fingers and hope that he's still there* Bosa.That pick doesn't make sense for a team that already has a solid left tackle in place and is in win now mode.Why take a LT just to have him sit behind Monroe who is a good player when healthy?Tunsil would be a waste of a rare pick that's basically a top four pick after the two QB's are picked.Our defense needs this pick more than our offense and this is coming from a guy who is immensely biased towards offense.We need one of those potentially elite defenders.Preferably Bosa or Jack because Ramsey will be gone and I don't see us trading up a spot or two for him.

Jack??? Jack is a bust waiting to happen. LMAO Where did you go to school? OH and he can play GUARD too you know and if he is better then Monroe, which he already is, Monroe can play guard. Sheesh...

[purpledown]

The Ravens are in line to get a game changer impossible to mess this one up.

[mearzunkies]

Now I am upset about the strength of schedule BS with Jax

 

Not to mention how the Ravens got shafted for the W!

[mearzunkies]

  37 minutes ago, The Greek said:

i am afraid of jacks knee. ramsey tunsil bosa buckner or trading back just a few slots for more picks works for me

I was just thinking the same thing, our first pick needs to be someone who can contribute on the field immediately, no someone we have to redshirt and wait to get healthy, and even if he does play his rookie season, he still may have a injury riddled career. I also have a gut feeling Tunsil will turn out to be a bust.

I feel that way about Jack.

[Black&purple#55]

Imagine Josh Norman signs with the Ravens, I would celebrate that with a Johny Blue!!!!!

[cbrook1862]

I pray Noah Spence falls to the 2nd round, multiple scouts/analyst have said he's the best pure pass rusher in the draft and even compares to von miller.

[The Negotiator]

I just don't want Elliott.

I do

[law215]

Any other time I would think slam dunk. There is no way the Ravens not secure a great player. However, lately the Ravens have been missing. The number one reason the Ravens do not already have 3 titles is over the years they lost their rivals star. Whether its been AJ Green, Antonio Brown, Gronk, James Harrison, Polamalu they make those 4th quarter plays that beat us. For the Ravens it's simple Ramsey, Bosa, Tunsil, or Buckner in that order. If they take Jack or Elliot then they still don't have a pass rusher, CB, or LT. and would done nothing to compete against Steelers, Bengals, Patriots which are your division and palyoff rivals. If your one of your top needs are in the consensus top 6, you take them. They don't need a RB or ILB. OZ should keep it simple cause it's all laid out for Ravens to get pass rusher, CB,LT in the first 3 rounds. Anything else is failure.

[Ravens8383]

Let's all hope the Cowboys keep being the Cowboys and take Elliott. Not saying he couldn't turn out to be great but thats just a position that the Ravens don't need to spend a 1st round pick on.

[mearzunkies]

I would not mind Elliot. Jack and Bosa I say no thank you !!

[law215]

I would not mind Elliot. Jack and Bosa I say no thank you !!

There is no guarantee Suggs is his old self after 2 Achilles and being 33 years old. If Bosa is there, take him. I agree pass on Jack cause of injury concerns and not an edge rusher.

[thecommish]

  1 hour ago, mearzunkies said:

I would not mind Elliot. Jack and Bosa I say no thank you !!

There is no guarantee Suggs is his old self after 2 Achilles and being 33 years old. If Bosa is there, take him. I agree pass on Jack cause of injury concerns and not an edge rusher.

Bosa is not a consolation prize. I would love for Tunsil or Ramsey to fall to us but if that dont happen and we land Bosa... I would not feel like we lost out at all!

[thecommish]

  1 hour ago, mearzunkies said:

I would not mind Elliot. Jack and Bosa I say no thank you !!

There is no guarantee Suggs is his old self after 2 Achilles and being 33 years old. If Bosa is there, take him. I agree pass on Jack cause of injury concerns and not an edge rusher.

I would love to see Jack in this defense and his versatility is tempting but that knee injury for a pick that high is just not worth the risk at this point. (Perriman is enough of a question mark on a 1st rounder)!

[thecommish]

I pray Noah Spence falls to the 2nd round, multiple scouts/analyst have said he's the best pure pass rusher in the draft and even compares to von miller.

So Bosa in the 1st and Spence in the 2nd? Im not opposed...just not sure that I can see it happening. It would be fun to see us load up like that however

[balfan23]

I am happy that we're guaranteed there will be another QB taken ahead of us, but not thrilled to see a division foe getting that wealth of picks. Of course, everyone will think the Browns will find a way to screw it up, but people thought that of the Bengals for a time as well. Look for Cleveland to try to trade back into the first round to grab Lynch. I'm hoping the Jets go for him at 20.

[thecommish]

1. Tunsil
2. Ramsey
3. Bosa
4. Buckner
5. Jack
6. Zeke

I believe that Tunsil goes to the Chargers, Zeke to the Cowboys and Jack to the Jags.... (with the first two being QBs)... Leaving us Ramsey with the number 6 pick. (if Ramsey goes to Dallas) that leaves us Bosa or Zeke! (I think it would be Bosa). I cant wait!

[trevorsteadman]

I think Bosa would fit perfectly with our defense. He was the highest rated player when starting the process and now for some reason he is falling when there is no need. A lot of his times are almost identical to Suggs. Both played 4-3 defensive end coming out of college. I think Bosa can turn into that 3-4 OLB and play defensive end in our nickel packages. No one knows how Suggs will come back. Actually last time Suggs tore his achilles it took him awhile to come back. He got back on the field fast but he did not seem like a presence that entire super bowl run. Paul Kruger seemed like the only guy getting pressure that season. Dumervil is a sack specialist. If Suggs comes back healthy then great Bosa can be that 3rd rusher that McPhee played as, take snaps away from Dumervil on run plays, and he is a guy who can drop into coverage on the edge that a lot of outside linebackers struggle with.

[harfordravenfan]

2 hours ago, Ravens8383 said:

Let's all hope the Cowboys keep being the Cowboys and take Elliott. Not saying he couldn't turn out to be great but thats just a position that the Ravens don't need to spend a 1st round pick on.

They may need bosa since they lost 2 DE's for 4 games most likely and got rid of Hardy