Not your expected Mock 3.0, Let the Draft Begin

[RavensDieHard21]

I know that this forum is already flooded, but I figure that the recent Rams trade has made things interesting enough to garner one final mock draft. So here we go.....

1.) LA Rams- Goff, California kid stays where he belongs and gives the fans somethings to be excited about. 

2.) Brownies- Wentz, Some think they take a "Money Ball" approach and select the actual BPA, but this is Cleveland we are talking about. Hue Jackson also will want another QB along with RGIII to groom while he attempts to put together a formidable roster. Franchises start with a QB so this is the way they go. 

3.) Chargers- Tunsil, Some say that the Chargers have a good line and that Ramsey would be more ideal, but i think that is far fetched as Rivers has been getting lit up for years. Not selecting Tunsil to keep him upright would almost be unthinkable, even though they need D line. It is the deepest positional group in the draft so no big deal. 

4.) Heartbreaking Cowboys- Bosa, Another argument that keeps being made is that no way Jerry lets Ramsey slide past them, which makes sense based on talent, but with Hardy and Gregory absent from the picture, pass rush is a must and Jerry will find it hard to pass the best one in the class, especially since they already selected a track star freak last year in Jones for their secondary.

5.) Jags- Jack, the interest that they have in Jack is no secret and neither is Bradley's preference to address the front 7 before the secondary. They get a versatile player that allows their coach to get creative. 

6.) The Baltimore Ravens select..... Jalen Ramsey,I may still deep down think Bosa is our pick, but as for now, I am going out on a limb and saying it is Ramsey. Every year there is at least one major prospect that early on takes a little surprising tumble, such as Leonard Williams last year, and I now feel it will be Ramsey. We all know what he can do and the pick everyone thought and still believes never makes into Black and Purple, actually does. He might develop into an all-pro CB or he might be a rare hybrid like the Honey Badger, either way, I see him as being a real pillar to re-building our defensive tradition. 

36.) Jason Spriggs, I know everyone is demanding a Pass rusher/ CB tandem in RD 1 and 2, but I do not see Spence sliding this far without a trade up. He is a wild card, but we cannot be foolish and believe that many pass rusher desperate teams will shy away from him that long, especially the teams ahead of us at the top of the second. Realistically though, Monroe could crumble once again this season and Wagner with our luck could be leaving via FA next year, therefore we get a great back up and eventual successor for either T position. His technique, instinct, footwork and athleticism is impressive, but he will need to build more strength to really obtain potential. 

70.) Shilique Calhoun, this one might be a reach, but I could see that after staying put for two rounds that Ozzie gets an itch and pounces on Calhoun at the back end of the second. But then again, Calhoun's weakness against the run might make teams weary of taking a situation based pass rusher that early on. With Z. Smith filling the Upshaw role, Calhoun could be a very valuable rusher for us to keep Suggs fresh. Frackrell and Ngakoue are more likely if a trade up if not sought after, so i'll keep them as the other options. 

104.) Charles Tapper, Very well could go higher, but he is a project still and with our fingers crossed he land here.

130.) Adolphus Washington, I see this as our project player round where we dig for buried treasure.   

4th RD Comp - Joe Dahl, Could be another winning lottery ticket for a mid round lineman. 

4th RD Comp - Cyrus Jones, might make his way onto the defense in the nickel at times, but could also be a special teams stud, especially returning. 

 

 

[numerounopapi]

The fact that you believe that we have a real shot or the possibility of getting Ramsey officially makes my favorite mock draft haha 

[usmccharles]

I like the draft a lot, obviously.  I just cant see us getting Ramsey.  Making the case that SD takes Tunsil because they need to protect Rivers I agree with, I just cant see Dallas and Jax passing on Ramsey. 

Tapper I really like and I think he ends up going in the 3rd, or maybe even the second.  Love that you mentioned Ngakoue, im curious as who was still available in your mind in the 2nd with our selection.

Would be a good draft for us that's for sure. 

[Somerset Ravens]

This is a fantastic draft ! Getting Ramsey would be incredible and this draft addresses so many needs.

[RavensDieHard21]

4 hours ago, usmccharles said:

I like the draft a lot, obviously.  I just cant see us getting Ramsey.  Making the case that SD takes Tunsil because they need to protect Rivers I agree with, I just cant see Dallas and Jax passing on Ramsey. 

Tapper I really like and I think he ends up going in the 3rd, or maybe even the second.  Love that you mentioned Ngakoue, im curious as who was still available in your mind in the 2nd with our selection.

Would be a good draft for us that's for sure. 

I just want to believe that either Bosa or Ramsey will be available. lol Jerry Jones is another GM that doesn't always take the flashiest pick on the board and did takes Jones last year, so not having an adequate pass rusher what so ever could be devastating to their defense. JAX I see going front 7 no matter what and with the amount of interviews and private meetings I have a feeling that's their guy. 

Tapper has a really flexible stock. A lot of 4 round mocks have him in the middle of the third, but some top 100 prospects list have him at the back end. If coached up, he could be deadly, but Ngakoue I see as a back up selection.

In the second I see a lot of CB, WR, and Rushers already gone. I have Spence, Alexander, and WJIII off the board by 36, or they would be my picks. But I see Billings, Butler, Kendall Fuller, Whitehair--whom I would be tempted to take, all being available as well as Spriggs. I figured that after Ramsey I needed a very realistic pick to follow lol 

 

[RavensDieHard21]

5 hours ago, numerounopapi said:

The fact that you believe that we have a real shot or the possibility of getting Ramsey officially makes my favorite mock draft haha 

Stranger things have happened in the draft! We have to be optimistic here.

[RavensDieHard21]

1 hour ago, Somerset Ravens said:

This is a fantastic draft ! Getting Ramsey would be incredible and this draft addresses so many needs.

I wanted to be realistic and I think landing Ramsey is realistic, or the worst case is that we switch Bosa for Ramsey, either way he get a real nice weapon on defense.. 

[usmccharles]

9 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

I just want to believe that either Bosa or Ramsey will be available. lol Jerry Jones is another GM that doesn't always take the flashiest pick on the board and did takes Jones last year, so not having an adequate pass rusher what so ever could be devastating to their defense. JAX I see going front 7 no matter what and with the amount of interviews and private meetings I have a feeling that's their guy. 

Tapper has a really flexible stock. A lot of 4 round mocks have him in the middle of the third, but some top 100 prospects list have him at the back end. If coached up, he could be deadly, but Ngakoue I see as a back up selection.

In the second I see a lot of CB, WR, and Rushers already gone. I have Spence, Alexander, and WJIII off the board by 36, or they would be my picks. But I see Billings, Butler, Kendall Fuller, Whitehair--whom I would be tempted to take, all being available as well as Spriggs. I figured that after Ramsey I needed a very realistic pick to follow lol 

 

I disagree there, respectfully of course.  With them taking Fowler last year and adding Malik Jackson, I think they try to solidify the back end of that defense.  But I hope your right. 

[beanfigger]

I want Ramsey badly, but if the Cowboys don't trade out, they will sprint to the podium with their Ramsey card if he's available to them.

[rmw10]

I feel like this is too much of what you want to happen instead of what you think will happen. 

[RavensDieHard21]

2 hours ago, usmccharles said:

I disagree there, respectfully of course.  With them taking Fowler last year and adding Malik Jackson, I think they try to solidify the back end of that defense.  But I hope your right. 

I certainly agree that they need to fix their secondary, but they also need another ILB and a talent like Jack will not be available later in the draft. We will see!

[RavensDieHard21]

2 hours ago, rmw10 said:

I feel like this is too much of what you want to happen instead of what you think will happen. 

I mean I thought I was being conservative at best. I did a 4 RD mock and looked at every teams needs and this is kinda how the cards stacked up lol The only hard thing to see happen is Calhoun falling to 70, but that's why I said Ngakoue or Frackwell are options b and c.

[Kinda_Dante]

1 minute ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

I mean I thought I was being conservative at best. I did a 4 RD mock and looked at every teams needs and this is kinda how the cards stacked up lol The only hard thing to see happen is Calhoun falling to 70, but that's why I said Ngakoue or Frackwell are options b and c.

I think he's just saying that because it's hard to believe Ramsey drops to us.

[rmw10]

4 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

I mean I thought I was being conservative at best. I did a 4 RD mock and looked at every teams needs and this is kinda how the cards stacked up lol The only hard thing to see happen is Calhoun falling to 70, but that's why I said Ngakoue or Frackwell are options b and c.

Ramsey is obviously the big one, but even after that, I see some of the guys that you have as a stretch to be available. I could be wrong, though. 

[BmoreBird22]

3 hours ago, usmccharles said:

I disagree there, respectfully of course.  With them taking Fowler last year and adding Malik Jackson, I think they try to solidify the back end of that defense.  But I hope your right. 

What made the Seahawks front seven actually jive? Bobby Wagner. Jack has the potential to be twice the player Wagner is. 

[usmccharles]

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

What made the Seahawks front seven actually jive? Bobby Wagner. Jack has the potential to be twice the player Wagner is. 

In no way am i saying i dont like Jack, everyone knows i love Jack, i was the first to mock him to us.  Im just saying i think they address the secondary first, also, pretty sure Sherman helps out there too lol.  But i wouldnt be surprised if Jack goes to them...

[Winchester]

8 hours ago, usmccharles said:

I like the draft a lot, obviously.  I just cant see us getting Ramsey.  Making the case that SD takes Tunsil because they need to protect Rivers I agree with, I just cant see Dallas and Jax passing on Ramsey. 

Tapper I really like and I think he ends up going in the 3rd, or maybe even the second.  Love that you mentioned Ngakoue, im curious as who was still available in your mind in the 2nd with our selection.

Would be a good draft for us that's for sure. 

Ngakoue is right there witb Spence with a little refinement.  Not a fan or tapper really. And for the record he did not run Cooper down!! Cooper was cutting and gearing down to plan his route to elude tacklers. While good effort/speed that is not running somebody down.

Edited April 19, 2016 by Winchester

[usmccharles]

2 minutes ago, Winchester said:

Ngakoue is right there witb Spence with a little refinement.  Not a fan or rapper really. And for the record he did not run Cooper down!! Cooper was cutting and gearing down to plan his route to elude tacklers. While good effort/speed that is not running somebody down.

I didnt even bring up the Cooper tackle, but he did outrun everyone next to him on defense to make the tackle, regardless if Cooper was cutting or not, he chased him down.  Love the effort. 

[BmoreBird22]

1 hour ago, usmccharles said:

In no way am i saying i dont like Jack, everyone knows i love Jack, i was the first to mock him to us.  Im just saying i think they address the secondary first, also, pretty sure Sherman helps out there too lol.  But i wouldnt be surprised if Jack goes to them...

Sherman benefits more from Earl Thomas than anything and I'm sure Gus Bradley of all people can find a way to turn around Tashaun Gipson.

I know they don't have a plethora of corners, but a team like Jacksonville could easily find a way to retain Amukamara if he bounces back and Aaron Colvin is still pretty damn good.

[glen ferguson]

9 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

I know that this forum is already flooded, but I figure that the recent Rams trade has made things interesting enough to garner one final mock draft. So here we go.....

1.) LA Rams- Goff, California kid stays where he belongs and gives the fans somethings to be excited about. 

2.) Brownies- Wentz, Some think they take a "Money Ball" approach and select the actual BPA, but this is Cleveland we are talking about. Hue Jackson also will want another QB along with RGIII to groom while he attempts to put together a formidable roster. Franchises start with a QB so this is the way they go. 

3.) Chargers- Tunsil, Some say that the Chargers have a good line and that Ramsey would be more ideal, but i think that is far fetched as Rivers has been getting lit up for years. Not selecting Tunsil to keep him upright would almost be unthinkable, even though they need D line. It is the deepest positional group in the draft so no big deal. 

4.) Heartbreaking Cowboys- Bosa, Another argument that keeps being made is that no way Jerry lets Ramsey slide past them, which makes sense based on talent, but with Hardy and Gregory absent from the picture, pass rush is a must and Jerry will find it hard to pass the best one in the class, especially since they already selected a track star freak last year in Jones for their secondary.

5.) Jags- Jack, the interest that they have in Jack is no secret and neither is Bradley's preference to address the front 7 before the secondary. They get a versatile player that allows their coach to get creative. 

6.) The Baltimore Ravens select..... Jalen Ramsey,I may still deep down think Bosa is our pick, but as for now, I am going out on a limb and saying it is Ramsey. Every year there is at least one major prospect that early on takes a little surprising tumble, such as Leonard Williams last year, and I now feel it will be Ramsey. We all know what he can do and the pick everyone thought and still believes never makes into Black and Purple, actually does. He might develop into an all-pro CB or he might be a rare hybrid like the Honey Badger, either way, I see him as being a real pillar to re-building our defensive tradition. 

36.) Jason Spriggs, I know everyone is demanding a Pass rusher/ CB tandem in RD 1 and 2, but I do not see Spence sliding this far without a trade up. He is a wild card, but we cannot be foolish and believe that many pass rusher desperate teams will shy away from him that long, especially the teams ahead of us at the top of the second. Realistically though, Monroe could crumble once again this season and Wagner with our luck could be leaving via FA next year, therefore we get a great back up and eventual successor for either T position. His technique, instinct, footwork and athleticism is impressive, but he will need to build more strength to really obtain potential. 

70.) Shilique Calhoun, this one might be a reach, but I could see that after staying put for two rounds that Ozzie gets an itch and pounces on Calhoun at the back end of the second. But then again, Calhoun's weakness against the run might make teams weary of taking a situation based pass rusher that early on. With Z. Smith filling the Upshaw role, Calhoun could be a very valuable rusher for us to keep Suggs fresh. Frackrell and Ngakoue are more likely if a trade up if not sought after, so i'll keep them as the other options. 

104.) Charles Tapper, Very well could go higher, but he is a project still and with our fingers crossed he land here.

130.) Adolphus Washington, I see this as our project player round where we dig for buried treasure.   

4th RD Comp - Joe Dahl, Could be another winning lottery ticket for a mid round lineman. 

4th RD Comp - Cyrus Jones, might make his way onto the defense in the nickel at times, but could also be a special teams stud, especially returning. 

 

 

I really like your mock draft. i would be elated if we could actually acquired your first 3 picks. I think Calhoun will not be there at 70 and we would have to trade up to get him indeed. Another kid i like is Aaron Wallace Lb. overall tho great mock.

[RavensDieHard21]

1 hour ago, rmw10 said:

Ramsey is obviously the big one, but even after that, I see some of the guys that you have as a stretch to be available. I could be wrong, though. 

You never know. I think that after RD 2 that projections are really hard to pin point. I just try to base it off big boards, PFF, and mocks lol Ramsey or Jack will be available at 6 if Bosa goes to Dallas, if not, hello Joey Bosa!

[RavensDieHard21]

1 hour ago, Winchester said:

Ngakoue is right there witb Spence with a little refinement.  Not a fan or tapper really. And for the record he did not run Cooper down!! Cooper was cutting and gearing down to plan his route to elude tacklers. While good effort/speed that is not running somebody down.

I mean a 4.56 40 at 270 lbs is pretty impressive no matter how you look at it lol He is very raw and I see high ceiling, slightly low floor in him. But that is why I see him as a 4th. It is where you either find gems or depth. 

[RavensDieHard21]

24 minutes ago, glen ferguson said:

I really like your mock draft. i would be elated if we could actually acquired your first 3 picks. I think Calhoun will not be there at 70 and we would have to trade up to get him indeed. Another kid i like is Aaron Wallace Lb. overall tho great mock.

Ozzie is a lot more infamous for making moves in Rd 2 and 3 so I think that if he seen Calhoun who is projected to be a very good 3-4 pass rushing OLB, he would make the move to secure him. I wouldn't mind Yannick either though, but Calhoun besides his run support is a very solid player. Makes big plays when they are needed.

[RaveNextDoor]

What if Ramsey is there at 4 and we trade our 6 and a 4th to the Cowboys. They still either get jack or bosa so it's a win win for both 

[Dame2]

Leonard Willlams was the Ramsey of last year he was the so called best top player that was top 3 no less and yet he still slide to #6 for the Jets so never say never.

[trevorsteadman]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ramsey makes it to 6th. How often does a defensive back get drafted top 5? He looks great but just looking back at history there isn't many. If Jack's knee checks out I wouldn't be surprised if the Cowboys take Jack and then the Jaguars take Bosa or Buckner. The Jaguars have said they would rather upgrade their front seven over their defensive backs so unless they believe there is a huge talent gap between Ramsey and Bosa/Buckner then I bet they would take DE. This of course only happens if the Browns/trade partner of the Browns pick a QB and the Chargers pick Tunsil. If the Chargers take Ramsey then Tunsil falls. I would feel more comfortable if a knew for sure 2 quarterbacks or a quarterback and a running back were taken before us but that is still unknown.

[Bandwagon]

11 hours ago, usmccharles said:

I like the draft a lot, obviously.  I just cant see us getting Ramsey.  Making the case that SD takes Tunsil because they need to protect Rivers I agree with, I just cant see Dallas and Jax passing on Ramsey. 

Tapper I really like and I think he ends up going in the 3rd, or maybe even the second.  Love that you mentioned Ngakoue, im curious as who was still available in your mind in the 2nd with our selection.

Would be a good draft for us that's for sure. 

I honestly think its possible if SD take Tunsil, Jacksonville has been in love with myles jack and the only team to worry about is dallas but so much talk has them on bosa or Elliot

[RavensDieHard21]

4 minutes ago, Bandwagon said:

I honestly think its possible if SD take Tunsil, Jacksonville has been in love with myles jack and the only team to worry about is dallas but so much talk has them on bosa or Elliot

Jerry Jones has been drafting very well lately and he knows he might have whiffed on Gregory last year so he will find it hard to pass on Bosa.

[trevorsteadman]

22 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Jerry Jones has been drafting very well lately and he knows he might have whiffed on Gregory last year so he will find it hard to pass on Bosa.

And I very well agree. They do not have Hardy anymore and Gregory for a majority of the season. They almost need Bosa to fall to them. They have 0 defense at the moment I do not understand the Cowboys playoff hype ever since the super bowl. Their defense is not in a position to win play off games. Their offense can score 50 points a game but it doesn't matter when the opposing team can score 51 on you.

[ALPHA]

I like it if it comes true, it doesn't look realistic to me but you never know on draft day.