[News] Late For Work 4/13: What We Know About Pitta's Restructured Contract; Elam Contract Option

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[757RavensFan]

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If the Ravens picked up Elam’s option, his salary would be determined by the average of the 25 highest-paid safeties. That would mean Elam would make between $5.5 million and $6 million in 2017, says Hensley.

 

Edited April 13, 2016 by 757RavensFan

[merryjman]

Still sounds like Pitta is done to me.

I keep hoping against hope that Elam will finally break out. Bad luck with that biceps tear last season. No sense in cutting him this year though, because at worst he could be a special teams hitter.

My biggest question: what's the deal with Arthur Brown? Is that guy a big bust too? Or will the release of Daryl Smith finally give him the chance to show what he can do?

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

I doubt Pitta will ever play a game again.It's sad that we didn't get to see the Flacco to Pitta connection these past three years.They were building something special.

[WNC-Raven]

Choosing Pitta over any of our current TE's scares me even more than using the #6 pick on Bosa.
I'm calling it premature to call Elam a bust, especially not the biggest bust of franchise history. He was playing out of his natural position for the start of his NFL career and was injured last year. If the Ravens set up the roster in such a way to put him in position to excel he may do just that.

[budman]

50 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

 

That is Hilarious!!

[Halshayeji]

Sorry this may sound rude, but I called pitta taking a 4 mil dollar pay cut 2 months ago and people around here laughed. And I was shocked when we signed ford for 1.7 mil so I'm really not surprised.

 

The big question mark for me is A.Brown and Elam! If they play bad we lose them for nothing. If they play good then they price themselves out and we lose yhem for a comp pick. So is it really worth investing playing time in them?

[Crusader]

"That would mean Elam would make between $5.5 million and $6 million in 2017, says Hensley" No way! Off to Cleavland for you Elam. Should have spent more time studying the position and working out.

[Crusader]

For the Love of Goodness please do NOT use the money you saved on Pitta and give that to Elam. "There's a good chance he'll be remembered as the biggest first-round bust in the Ravens' 20-year draft history, even surpassing quarterback Kyle Boller and wide receiver Travis Taylor.” I wonder how many draft bust the other teams (Besides Cleavland) have in the AFC North?

[rmcjacket23]

13 minutes ago, Crusader said:

For the Love of Goodness please do NOT use the money you saved on Pitta and give that to Elam. "There's a good chance he'll be remembered as the biggest first-round bust in the Ravens' 20-year draft history, even surpassing quarterback Kyle Boller and wide receiver Travis Taylor.” I wonder how many draft bust the other teams (Besides Cleavland) have in the AFC North?

1. Elam's option year is 2017, so giving him any money would have no impact on 2016 or Pitta's pay cut.

2. The entire premise is there's no way the Ravens pick up his option, so that's not a discussion.

Even if he had a great season and won a starting job and dominated, he still probably wouldn't get a $5-6M salary.

3. Other teams have plenty of draft busts. Could easily put together a big list for Cincinnati and Pittsburgh as well. Go back and look at the 08-09 drafts for Pittsburgh. Cincinnati has had some very good drafts of late, which is reflective of their status in the NFL currently. But then again, they spent decades being irrelevant, so obviously they whiffed on more than a few drafts.

Edited April 13, 2016 by rmcjacket23

[mc_red23]

30 minutes ago, budman said:

That is Hilarious!!

I got a few looks when I laughed at this.

[stixfix69]

I would consider using some cap space on a vet ILBer...very concerned with the state our ILBer corp is in, of course if we draft Jack i will be happy...

[jravens1313]

No way is Elam a bigger bust than Boller or Taylor. Injuries have been the real issue. I wouldn't count him out completely yet. He is still young and sometimes it takes guys a few years to develop in the secondary.

[stixfix69]

If Elam steps his game up, they might be forced to sign him to his 5th year option, with Webb, and Weddle on the back end of their careers...iF He has a solid year, he will be signed by another team if we cut him....Unless....one of my favorites gets a fair shot at some PT....Nick Perry.....JMO.....

[Ravensfansince03]

Am I the only one who forgot about Elam. 1st round pick smdh u gotta be kiddin me smh.

[eze17]

I would consider using some cap space on a vet ILBer...very concerned with the state our ILBer corp is in, of course if we draft Jack i will be happy...

Probably a good chance the Raven's will pick up a veteran LB after the June 1st cuts, even if they pick a LB in the draft. Depends on who's out there and at what price the Raven's would be willing to spend.(not a lot i'd hazard). I doubt if it would be a big name, and they'd probably want someone who was versatile and could play special teams if need be.

[Ravensfansince03]

No way is Elam a bigger bust than Boller or Taylor. Injuries have been the real issue. I wouldn't count him out completely yet. He is still young and sometimes it takes guys a few years to develop in the secondary.

At least Boller tried. Either way, pretty complex to compare a bust QB to a bust safety. Two totally different positions.

[Ravensfansince03]

I would consider using some cap space on a vet ILBer...very concerned with the state our ILBer corp is in, of course if we draft Jack i will be happy...

I was thinking the same. Seems like people have forgotten we have parted ways with D. Smith and COURTNEY UPSHAW. Even though D.Smith was ok at best, I still dont see anyone on our roster that can replace them. If anyone on here says we have somebody currently who can fill the shoes or be a better replacement than D.Smith is lying and should be banned from NFL talk. Go talk about soccer or tennis.

[Ravensfansince03]

Just from being a huge fan of Pitta, I want him to make a miraculous recover.

But being realistic, we need to suck it up and move on from both Pitta and Elam. I really fear for Pitta's health, and Elam...smh

[stixfix69]

  24 minutes ago, stixfix69 said:

I would consider using some cap space on a vet ILBer...very concerned with the state our ILBer corp is in, of course if we draft Jack i will be happy...

I was thinking the same. Seems like people have forgotten we have parted ways with D. Smith and COURTNEY UPSHAW. Even though D.Smith was ok at best, I still dont see anyone on our roster that can replace them. If anyone on here says we have somebody currently who can fill the shoes or be a better replacement than D.Smith is lying and should be banned from NFL talk. Go talk about soccer or tennis.

I just never understood why Upshaw never got reps playing ILBer, he no doubt has the size, and as a ILBer he would have been a tackling machine....I would at least tried him at ILBer, and moved AB outside since speed is his game,....

[Ravensfansince03]

Refering to my Pitta comment, modern tackling in the NFL has gotten really sloppy and controversial. Its like every defender is looking to knock out an opponents knee, or hit them while they are not looking. All it takes is one hit and Pitta could be in a very bad situation, forget about the NFL, this is about this mans well being in life. Dont want to be 40 years old walking around with a cane.

[stixfix69]

As far as Pitta is cincerned IMO there are 3 factors that come into play 1. Doctors have to give him a clean bill of health to return 2. He then would hav to win a job, which i'm not sure he can when the younger guys are pretty much healthy 3. And it really his decision, he knows what is at risk, his call, and is something he has to live with long after his football days are over....

[Sense&Sensibility]

22 minutes ago, stixfix69 said:

I just never understood why Upshaw never got reps playing ILBer, he no doubt has the size, and as a ILBer he would have been a tackling machine....I would at least tried him at ILBer, and moved AB outside since speed is his game,....

Maybe because he's a 6-2 270 lb piece of granite that can't run and chase laterally or cover RBs/TEs down the field making him completely useless unless the play is coming right at him inside the tackle box? It's a passing league and even 6-2 235 lb CJ Mosley struggled in coverage last season... 

[budman]

Look at the bright side: If we end up losing Elam, he already has experience at Footlocker. lol

[rmcjacket23]

48 minutes ago, stixfix69 said:

If Elam steps his game up, they might be forced to sign him to his 5th year option, with Webb, and Weddle on the back end of their careers...iF He has a solid year, he will be signed by another team if we cut him....Unless....one of my favorites gets a fair shot at some PT....Nick Perry.....JMO.....

Or you resign him for less, since he would be a UFA if we don't pick up the option.

He's not going to be a hot commodity even if he has a good year.

[billiejean]

42 minutes ago, stixfix69 said:

46 minutes ago, Ravensfansince03 said:

  1 hour ago, stixfix69 said:

I would consider using some cap space on a vet ILBer...very concerned with the state our ILBer corp is in, of course if we draft Jack i will be happy...

I was thinking the same. Seems like people have forgotten we have parted ways with D. Smith and COURTNEY UPSHAW. Even though D.Smith was ok at best, I still dont see anyone on our roster that can replace them. If anyone on here says we have somebody currently who can fill the shoes or be a better replacement than D.Smith is lying and should be banned from NFL talk. Go talk about soccer or tennis.

I just never understood why Upshaw never got reps playing ILBer, he no doubt has the size, and as a ILBer he would have been a tackling machine....I would at least tried him at ILBer, and moved AB outside since speed is his game,....

They never did that because it is a terrible idea. Upshaw has really poor lateral agility and if he moved to ILB he wouldn't be able to scrape over the top to clean up plays that aren't running directly at him. He would also be a huge liability in pass coverage. Art Brown would make a great 4-3 OLB.  As a 3-4 OLB he really doesn't have the length needed to go up against the long armed tackles in this league.

Edited April 13, 2016 by billiejean

[noleafclover613]

  1 hour ago, stixfix69 said:

I would consider using some cap space on a vet ILBer...very concerned with the state our ILBer corp is in, of course if we draft Jack i will be happy...

I was thinking the same. Seems like people have forgotten we have parted ways with D. Smith and COURTNEY UPSHAW. Even though D.Smith was ok at best, I still dont see anyone on our roster that can replace them. If anyone on here says we have somebody currently who can fill the shoes or be a better replacement than D.Smith is lying and should be banned from NFL talk. Go talk about soccer or tennis.

I get where you are coming from. We definitely could use an upgrade at inside linebacker, but honestly, the powers that be believe we do have an option on our roster who can fill Smith's shoes. I don't think Ozzie and Eric would have cut him without believing we had at least a comparable option available on the roster, in case we do not get the ILB we want in the draft. Let's not forget, Smith did see a drop in the number of snaps last year. There were times when we brought in Orr on passing downs, because he was the better option. Also, the idea of us moving someone from safety to ILB could have also sparked his release. If we don't get the ILB we want in the draft or a late pickup in free agency, I believe we may be content on going into the season playing with three "safeties" on the field, one of which takes up a linebacker position.

[The Greek]

i will judge elam after this season. he had a descent rookie season a weak 2nd season and was out for the season last year so this is a make or break season as far as his future with the ravens. i personally believe he will impress. with boyle out for 10 games having pitta on the roster if cleared by the docs would be a good thing

Edited April 13, 2016 by The Greek

[TheConquerorWorm]

  2 hours ago, stixfix69 said:

I would consider using some cap space on a vet ILBer...very concerned with the state our ILBer corp is in, of course if we draft Jack i will be happy...

I was thinking the same. Seems like people have forgotten we have parted ways with D. Smith and COURTNEY UPSHAW. Even though D.Smith was ok at best, I still dont see anyone on our roster that can replace them. If anyone on here says we have somebody currently who can fill the shoes or be a better replacement than D.Smith is lying and should be banned from NFL talk. Go talk about soccer or tennis.

Obvious the Ravens think that, so you're saying that Newsome, DeCosta, Harbaugh, etc are lying and should be banned from football? Big deal, he had lots of tackles - most of which were down the field tackling the TE he let get by him. Tackles are an overrated stat. ALL MLB put up tackle numbers - it's a product of their position. Coverage ability is a much higher rated ability in today's NFL. Nobody is talking about Kentrell Brothers or Hunter Kissenger going in the 1st Round despite leading the entire NCAA in Tackles. Myles Jack never finished in the Top 100 in Tackles, so why would teams ever spend a 1st Round pick on him?

[steelcityraven]

I think a lot of the draft depends on how the 1st pick unfolds for us. If we take a CB (like Ramsey or Hargraves) vs if someone like Tunsil would fall to us... that would clearly change how we select at # 36. If we take Jack with the first pick or Zeke.... I think we are clearly looking more defense (CB and Pass Rusher) in the next couple of rounds!