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[News] Eric DeCosta Isn't Ruling Out Drafting Cornerback Jalen Ramsey

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Yeah, anything COULD happen, but Ramsey falling into our laps ain't gonna be one of them. Dude is just to highly rated.

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I don't see how someone who only had only 3 picks their WHOLE COLLEGE CAREER is expected to be this big turnover machine in the pros. I think he is over-rated. I'm not saying he isn't good or worth taking at #6 but personally, I'd rather have Hargreaves.

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If Ramsey "falls" to us at the 6th pick then the SD, DAL, JAX GMs should all be fired.  

I mean I wouldn't go that far! lol maybe Jax, but if SD did bypass Ramsey for Jack, that would be understandable and if Dallas bypassed him for Bosa, I'd understand too because they need a pass rusher. I am marking it now, JAX will make us cry on draft day, whether it be by selecting Jack or Ramsey!

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Honestly, Ramsey will go right after Tunsil.  The Browns won't hesitate to draft him if they don't grab Wentz.  There is little chance that he will fall to number 6.  Everyone knows that quality CB help is hard to find.

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Only 2 DBs have been taken in the Top 5 in the last 15 years - Patrick Peterson & Eric Berry. Ramsey might be talented but he's not as good a Corner as Peterson and not as good a safety as Berry.

SD desperately needs guys in the trenches & pass rushers especially a LT. I think they go Stanley, Buckner, Bosa or Jack (Rumor has it they prefer Jack at S over Ramsey to replace Weddle).

Dallas needs Pass Rushers, D-line & RB. I see them taking Bosa, Buckner or Elliott.

That leaves Jax who really need guys in the front 7 (D-Line, Pass Rusher, MLB). That's Jack, Buckner or Bosa. To me, it all depends on who's left at 5 - if Jack is there, I think they take him over Ramsey.

Either way, we get a talented player at #6 whether it's Jack, Ramsey, Bosa, Buckner or Stanley. I'm more interested to see who's available with that 2nd Round pick

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1 hour ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

Only 2 DBs have been taken in the Top 5 in the last 15 years - Patrick Peterson & Eric Berry. Ramsey might be talented but he's not as good a Corner as Peterson and not as good a safety as Berry.

SD desperately needs guys in the trenches & pass rushers especially a LT. I think they go Stanley, Buckner, Bosa or Jack (Rumor has it they prefer Jack at S over Ramsey to replace Weddle).

Dallas needs Pass Rushers, D-line & RB. I see them taking Bosa, Buckner or Elliott.

That leaves Jax who really need guys in the front 7 (D-Line, Pass Rusher, MLB). That's Jack, Buckner or Bosa. To me, it all depends on who's left at 5 - if Jack is there, I think they take him over Ramsey.

Either way, we get a talented player at #6 whether it's Jack, Ramsey, Bosa, Buckner or Stanley. I'm more interested to see who's available with that 2nd Round pick

Pretty much every single one of the top 5 teams picking in this draft needs help in the secondary... none of them are anything special there.

Do they have arguably bigger needs? Maybe. I'd say teams like SD, Dallas and Jacksonville are specifically looking for playmakers, and that's what Ramsey projects as. 

A team like Jacksonville makes perfect sense, considering they drafted and signed pass rushers the last two years, and they could certainly use corner or safety help. Pairing Ramsey with newly signed Tashuan Gipson makes plenty of sense.

Ultimately, I expect SD to take him, and I'd certainly expect Dallas to take him if SD doesn't. Dallas has very little talent in the secondary.

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I don't see how someone who only had only 3 picks their WHOLE COLLEGE CAREER is expected to be this big turnover machine in the pros. I think he is over-rated. I'm not saying he isn't good or worth taking at #6 but personally, I'd rather have Hargreaves.

He has the "tools" to create turnovers. To his credit, it is hard to intercept the ball if no one throws at you. I like the kid, he is a vicious hitter and has a knack for being around the ball. I suspect that all of this talk is mute anyway and that your desire for Hargreaves is more probable.

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IDK.... Tunsil, Ramsey, Jack, Bosa, Buckner- I would be elated with any of those 5 and we pick at # 6.... (So with Zeke Elliot being in the mix and the 2 QB's- and any possible trade) I am fairly confident that we will land one of those 5 at # 6... if not we trade back and take Stanley and grab our CB at #36 (and lick our chops with extra draft picks)...

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I would love to Draft Hargraeves, Bosa, or Buckner at 6 and then get Noah Spence to fall to 36! That would be bomb man! Think of Buckner and Spence on the ends and then draft like a Kyle Fuller in the 3rd round at cb. Thats a good haul!

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I don't see how someone who only had only 3 picks their WHOLE COLLEGE CAREER is expected to be this big turnover machine in the pros. I think he is over-rated. I'm not saying he isn't good or worth taking at #6 but personally, I'd rather have Hargreaves.

Ahhh a rare disagreement with your post. He is that good sami. I would be dancing the jig if he fell to us.

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  4 hours ago, 757RavensFan said:

If Ramsey "falls" to us at the 6th pick then the SD, DAL, JAX GMs should all be fired.  

I mean I wouldn't go that far! lol maybe Jax, but if SD did bypass Ramsey for Jack, that would be understandable and if Dallas bypassed him for Bosa, I'd understand too because they need a pass rusher. I am marking it now, JAX will make us cry on draft day, whether it be by selecting Jack or Ramsey!

They are targeting Jack. If Ramsey and Jack are there :-(

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Only 2 DBs have been taken in the Top 5 in the last 15 years - Patrick Peterson & Eric Berry. Ramsey might be talented but he's not as good a Corner as Peterson and not as good a safety as Berry.

SD desperately needs guys in the trenches & pass rushers especially a LT. I think they go Stanley, Buckner, Bosa or Jack (Rumor has it they prefer Jack at S over Ramsey to replace Weddle).

Dallas needs Pass Rushers, D-line & RB. I see them taking Bosa, Buckner or Elliott.

That leaves Jax who really need guys in the front 7 (D-Line, Pass Rusher, MLB). That's Jack, Buckner or Bosa. To me, it all depends on who's left at 5 - if Jack is there, I think they take him over Ramsey.

Either way, we get a talented player at #6 whether it's Jack, Ramsey, Bosa, Buckner or Stanley. I'm more interested to see who's available with that 2nd Round pick

I agree but man I do not want Stanley. His com[ps and tape is not impressive or fit for the AFCN. IMO

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Nobody is ruling out Ramsey.. as far as I know, Ravens fans base or Organization...
But lets be HONEST... realistically its about 10% chance he falls to 6, and Ozzie and Ravens have no history of trading up early except for Flacco.

Ravens would need..Titans go Tunsil,Browns Qb, Chargers Bosa/Jack, Cowboys Qb, and Jags Bosa/Jack..then Ravens can take Ramsey..

But Cowboys are giving zero indication they are taking Romos replacement, atleast not that early.. so Ramsey will be gone by 5. Its Pass rusher/Lbr all day for Ravens.. Bosa,Jack,Buckner,Spence,Lawson,etc

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Rather have jack. I'm not that high on ramsey.. don't really see the playmaking consistently. That being said, he'd definitely be worth it at 6

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  4 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

Only 2 DBs have been taken in the Top 5 in the last 15 years - Patrick Peterson & Eric Berry. Ramsey might be talented but he's not as good a Corner as Peterson and not as good a safety as Berry.

SD desperately needs guys in the trenches & pass rushers especially a LT. I think they go Stanley, Buckner, Bosa or Jack (Rumor has it they prefer Jack at S over Ramsey to replace Weddle).

Dallas needs Pass Rushers, D-line & RB. I see them taking Bosa, Buckner or Elliott.

That leaves Jax who really need guys in the front 7 (D-Line, Pass Rusher, MLB). That's Jack, Buckner or Bosa. To me, it all depends on who's left at 5 - if Jack is there, I think they take him over Ramsey.

Either way, we get a talented player at #6 whether it's Jack, Ramsey, Bosa, Buckner or Stanley. I'm more interested to see who's available with that 2nd Round pick

Pretty much every single one of the top 5 teams picking in this draft needs help in the secondary... none of them are anything special there.

Do they have arguably bigger needs? Maybe. I'd say teams like SD, Dallas and Jacksonville are specifically looking for playmakers, and that's what Ramsey projects as. 

A team like Jacksonville makes perfect sense, considering they drafted and signed pass rushers the last two years, and they could certainly use corner or safety help. Pairing Ramsey with newly signed Tashuan Gipson makes plenty of sense.

Ultimately, I expect SD to take him, and I'd certainly expect Dallas to take him if SD doesn't. Dallas has very little talent in the secondary.

Gipson is a FS so making Ramsey a SS is not a good use of his skills. The Jags also have Cyprien & Sample at SS. I expect them them to target a 2nd tier SS in the mid rounds to compete with those guys. They have absolutely no one at LB other than Telvin Smith (Posluszny took a big pay cut so the Jags wouldn't cut him). They also have no d-line which is why they way overpaid Malik Jackson. Jack or Buckner is the pick there if he's available.

Dallas does need secondary help but they still have Claiborne and Carr. As far as pass rushers go, they only have DeMarcus Lawrence. Rod Marinelli's defense depends solely on DE rushing the passer (they don't blitz LB). Bosa, Buckner or Lawson is the pick here.

I still have a hard time seeing SD pass up an elite LT like Stanley especially since they play in a division with pass rushers like Von Miller, Ware, Khalil Mack, Tambi Hali, Justin Houston, etc. They allowed Rivers to be sacked 40+ times last year. That's a much more pressing need than Safety (they signed Lowery) or Corner (Verrett, Flowers and newly signed Hayward). Stanley starts on Day 1.

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The wild card is (as is the case most of the time) Dallas, JJones usually pulls a name out of his butt that no one had projected to them, IMHO Dallas could draft a QB or RB Elliott ,I am hoping we can get Bosa , but would also be happy with Jack or Buckner

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IDK.... Tunsil, Ramsey, Jack, Bosa, Buckner- I would be elated with any of those 5 and we pick at # 6.... (So with Zeke Elliot being in the mix and the 2 QB's- and any possible trade) I am fairly confident that we will land one of those 5 at # 6... if not we trade back and take Stanley and grab our CB at #36 (and lick our chops with extra draft picks)...

I'm really excited to see how this unfolds. Because the 5 you mentioned could be gone by the time we pick. I definitely think Tunsil goes with in the first 3 picks. So at least one offensive player will be gone. We need the Browns to take a QB, so that leaves us with a chance to land Jack, Buckner, Bosa, or Ramsey. I really don't see Jack or Ramsey falling to us. I think we will be deciding between Bosa, Buckner, or Hargraeves.

This is going to be the longest 2 weeks of the offseason haha.

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9 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

Gipson is a FS so making Ramsey a SS is not a good use of his skills. The Jags also have Cyprien & Sample at SS. I expect them them to target a 2nd tier SS in the mid rounds to compete with those guys. They have absolutely no one at LB other than Telvin Smith (Posluszny took a big pay cut so the Jags wouldn't cut him). They also have no d-line which is why they way overpaid Malik Jackson. Jack or Buckner is the pick there if he's available.

Dallas does need secondary help but they still have Claiborne and Carr. As far as pass rushers go, they only have DeMarcus Lawrence. Rod Marinelli's defense depends solely on DE rushing the passer (they don't blitz LB). Bosa, Buckner or Lawson is the pick here.

I still have a hard time seeing SD pass up an elite LT like Stanley especially since they play in a division with pass rushers like Von Miller, Ware, Khalil Mack, Tambi Hali, Justin Houston, etc. They allowed Rivers to be sacked 40+ times last year. That's a much more pressing need than Safety (they signed Lowery) or Corner (Verrett, Flowers and newly signed Hayward). Stanley starts on Day 1.

Well, if any of the teams takes the same approach as the Ravens, which is selecting best player available instead of taking a need-based pick, that practically all of them would take Ramsey. Its unlikely any of them would rank Stanley or probably most of the other players ahead of Ramsey. 

Dallas in particular makes all of the sense in the world, and for the very same reasons you described. They have Carr and Claiborne, who are both terrible corners. Claiborne resigned to a one year deal for chump change, and they've been asking Carr for a paycut for years. Its the equivalent of saying the Ravens are set at corner because they have Jimmy Smith and Shareece Wright, of which I'd rather have both of those guys over any of those two corners in Dallas. Their best corner is Scandrick, though he's been injured. They also have virtually no safeties.

I don't know what SD will do I can't see Ramsey making it past Jacksonville or Dallas.

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  12 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

Gipson is a FS so making Ramsey a SS is not a good use of his skills. The Jags also have Cyprien & Sample at SS. I expect them them to target a 2nd tier SS in the mid rounds to compete with those guys. They have absolutely no one at LB other than Telvin Smith (Posluszny took a big pay cut so the Jags wouldn't cut him). They also have no d-line which is why they way overpaid Malik Jackson. Jack or Buckner is the pick there if he's available.

Dallas does need secondary help but they still have Claiborne and Carr. As far as pass rushers go, they only have DeMarcus Lawrence. Rod Marinelli's defense depends solely on DE rushing the passer (they don't blitz LB). Bosa, Buckner or Lawson is the pick here.

I still have a hard time seeing SD pass up an elite LT like Stanley especially since they play in a division with pass rushers like Von Miller, Ware, Khalil Mack, Tambi Hali, Justin Houston, etc. They allowed Rivers to be sacked 40+ times last year. That's a much more pressing need than Safety (they signed Lowery) or Corner (Verrett, Flowers and newly signed Hayward). Stanley starts on Day 1.

Well, if any of the teams takes the same approach as the Ravens, which is selecting best player available instead of taking a need-based pick, that practically all of them would take Ramsey. Its unlikely any of them would rank Stanley or probably most of the other players ahead of Ramsey. 

Dallas in particular makes all of the sense in the world, and for the very same reasons you described. They have Carr and Claiborne, who are both terrible corners. Claiborne resigned to a one year deal for chump change, and they've been asking Carr for a paycut for years. Its the equivalent of saying the Ravens are set at corner because they have Jimmy Smith and Shareece Wright, of which I'd rather have both of those guys over any of those two corners in Dallas. Their best corner is Scandrick, though he's been injured. They also have virtually no safeties.

I don't know what SD will do I can't see Ramsey making it past Jacksonville or Dallas.

lets hope he does because he'll solitify our backend and passrush is deep in this years draft

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If Ramsey is still on the board at pick #6 Ozzie will sprint to draft him. Anyone that tries to stand in his way is likely to catch a stiff arm.

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