Choice Bosa vs Jack

[Wildabeast88]

This morning on draftspeak I was doing a mock for the Ravens and I found myself with an interesting choice at 6 both Bosa and Jack were available. Who would guys guys choose if that situation plays out. That was a hard one for me Jack is such a physically gifted athlete who can do so many things or Bosa who I believe can do what Suggs has done for us. 

Edited April 9, 2016 by Wildabeast88

[Edgar]

Easy. Myles Jack.

[Bandwagon]

Myles over e v e r y b o d y

[Wildabeast88]

My question is it his athleticism and versatility. I don't think we could go wrong either way.

[jazz1988]

Bosa would give The Ravens a every down outside linebacker which isn't easy to find. Jack would give The Ravens a major boast in speed  and coverage ability at  the inside linebacker position along with the capability to be use in many other ways such as safety,outsidelinebacker, nickel corner and etc. 

It's really hard to pick but I probably have to go with Jack.Bosa is so close though because it just isn't the easiest thing to find a every down linebacker that can do it all like Terrell Suggs

 

 

 

[Maryland]

There're really no wrong answer. Bosa is going to be at least good vs the run and offer something as a pass rusher, even if he's not consistently a double-digit sack producer. Jack seems like the perfect answer to the new breed of TEs who play like WRs--one of the few guys who could actually match-up vs Gronk on both run downs and a pass downs. 

I will say I like the versatility Bosa would bring to our pass rush. He could be a great run-stopping OLB on early downs and move to DE on passing downs, allowing a designated pass-rusher to get on the field.

And Jack has versatility to allow you to move seamlessly from your base 3-4 to nickle because of his coverage skills. 

So to answer your question, yes

Edited April 9, 2016 by Maryland

[Wildabeast88]

Yeah I have the same feeling I feel Bosa's floor is better than Jarrett Johnson and ceiling Suggs. Either way he is an upgrade over    Upshaw. Jack could be such a valuable piece. If I knew Spence would be there at 36 I would go Jack but it is a tough decision.

[JoeyFlex5]

Myles Jack... No matter what

[Somerset Ravens]

Myles Jack all the way.

[BBoogieMan]

ylesMay ackJay

[Jacquouille]

It has to be Jack because he can clearly change a whole defense by himself. No matter how good, Bosa is an edge rusher. Jack is the future brain, heart and soul of whichever defense choose him, barring injuries.

[KBoum]

8 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

It has to be Jack because he can clearly change a whole defense by himself. No matter how good, Bosa is an edge rusher. Jack is the future brain, heart and soul of whichever defense choose him, barring injuries.

I agree with you by saying Jack, but gotta admit who would you pick between Kueckly and Von Miller ? I love the Panthers LB but during the Superbowl Von Miller was a game changer.

 

Edit : I'm not comparing Bosa to Von Miller or Jack to Kueckly... I agree a Mike backer is the brain of the defense and is very important. But edge rusher can be very useful as well

Edited April 9, 2016 by KBoum

[Maryland]

I'm surprised at the consensus opinion that Jack is preferable to Bosa. Thought it'd at least be close. 

I guess I don't really feel strongly either way. My board is like Tunsil > Ramsey > Bosa = Jack = VH3 > Elliot > Buckner > Stanley

[Jacquouille]

27 minutes ago, KBoum said:

I agree with you by saying Jack, but gotta admit who would you pick between Kueckly and Von Miller ? I love the Panthers LB but during the Superbowl Von Miller was a game changer.

 

Edit : I'm not comparing Bosa to Von Miller or Jack to Kueckly... I agree a Mike backer is the brain of the defense and is very important. But edge rusher can be very useful as well

I understand, but I think Miller is overhyped. Now let's be clear, he is the leader of the league's best defense, and a top3 defensive player alongside Kuechly and Watt imo. But Denver's pass rush is a team's effort. It's Malik Jackson and Dereck Wolfe destroying the pocket and Ware and Willer leaving no chance of escape. What I mean is that Denver's defense doesn't revolve solely on Miller, had you put another rusher like, say, Justin Houston, the result would have been the same imo.

Simply put, you need several pieces to build a pass rush, while Myles Jack can bring a huge boost to your LB crew , and your whole defense all by himself, and no matter how good of an Edge rusher you are, you can't have that sort of impact I think.

[Jacquouille]

1 minute ago, Maryland said:

I'm surprised at the consensus opinion that Jack is preferable to Bosa. Thought it'd at least be close. 

I guess I don't really feel strongly either way. My board is like Tunsil > Ramsey > Bosa = Jack = VH3 > Elliot > Buckner > Stanley

It is very close. I'm honestly not sure which I'd take if that happened and I was Ozzie. 

[TNRaven24]

Bosa. Easily

[trevorsteadman]

Jack but I would be very happy with Bosa as well. Just because we have been killed by tight ends the last couple years.. And the Patriots are on our schedule with Gronk and Bennett, Steelers added an athletic Lardarius Green, Bengals and Browns have Eifert and Barnidge respectively. They have also talked about Jack taking snaps at OLB which is possible but I doubt in a rookie season you play a guy in too many roles as he is catching on to the NFL. Bosa with the added pressure is great too but Jack would be playing almost every snap compared to Bosa where I see him playing behind Suggs and Dumervil. Plus there is going to be a quality OLB in round two for us. I'm hoping Za'Darius Smith takes a huge leap. 

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

It would be AWESOME to get Jack but I would not mind Bosa but if both some how are on the board at pick 6 then it has to be Jack. Either guy would make our Ravens better.

Edited April 10, 2016 by ALSKAN RAVEN FAN

[DomMcRaven]

I know @usmccharles hates Myles Jack lol. So I know he'll choose Bosa. 

[thieverycorporation]

Neither.

[RayRocks]

I personally prefer Bosa, but I like both players.  I have Bosa ranked as the third best player in the draft, and Buckner/Jack tied for 4th.

Buckner and Jack may have higher ceilings than Bosa (although personally I think all 3 have perennial Pro Bowl potential), but I think Bosa is a safer pick. 

[rmw10]

I'd be conflicted.  Boss and Jack are my number 2 and 3 players, and the gap is not that big.  On one hand, I think Jack could be the key piece to covering the middle of the field where we struggled so much.  On the other hand, Bosa is a developed rusher that could have a huge impact.  I might lean Bosa just because I don't see the quality in edge rusher consistently from year to year.  I wouldn't be upset either way, though.

[chunkywill25]

hmmm. ray lewis 2.0 or suggs 2.0? maybe thats a stretch but thats how i see it. Ray may be the GOAT but how rare is a player like suggs as well? either one would be fine by me, but obviously a Lewis clone is my choice. Jack can change the position of linebacker like Ray did

[JoeyFlex5]

Myles Jack could be the premiere defender and best defensive player in the league for the next decade. He could revolutionize the linebacker position and everyone would want the next Myles Jack but nobody would ever measure up. Not saying he IS that guy, just saying he has a real chance to be that guy. The kid is special and a rare talent that comes around once every 10-15 years. 

 

Bosa is a Damn solid edge defender who can do it all from multiple positions and will never get outmanned by any blocker he faces. But is he a generational talent? Nah.

[RaineV1]

I'm going with Jack. Jack is the perfect coverage linebacker, and will constantly be making big plays for the defense.

[52520Andrew]

7 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

I understand, but I think Miller is overhyped. Now let's be clear, he is the leader of the league's best defense, and a top3 defensive player alongside Kuechly and Watt imo. But Denver's pass rush is a team's effort. It's Malik Jackson and Dereck Wolfe destroying the pocket and Ware and Willer leaving no chance of escape. What I mean is that Denver's defense doesn't revolve solely on Miller, had you put another rusher like, say, Justin Houston, the result would have been the same imo.

Simply put, you need several pieces to build a pass rush, while Myles Jack can bring a huge boost to your LB crew , and your whole defense all by himself, and no matter how good of an Edge rusher you are, you can't have that sort of impact I think.

No mention of Aaron Donald

[52520Andrew]

Tough question. You are making me pick between 2 of my favorite players in this draft

[Winchester]

Bosa. I like Myles a Jack a lot. But a dominant edge rusher can change a defense and make everybody cover better. If Mosley can step up his game In coverage then an ilb tandem that can cover like a safety can really benefit a defense. In talked about this before when i wanted Daryl Smith replaced last off-season. If one ilb is weak in coverage the offense will exploit him. As much as I value an ilb tandem that can cover and I said it before.  I will take a dominant edge rusher that attacks the offense and strikes fear in an offense and must be accounted for and schemed against. In A yr or 2 Boss will be a edge rushing terror!! He is 20 yrs old. He will fill out and mature to a 285lb freak of nature very similar to in watt. He will get stronger and actually more explosive as he matures in an nfl weight training program. Bosa is going to be very hard for an nfl tackle to handle. If his vertical is monitored it will get to about 35" or better as he matures. Bosa and Nkemdiche have the most upside of any defensive players in this draft. Jack will be a fine player but Bosa will be a terror.  If ravens could land Bosa and Nkemdiche the ravens rush will be terrorizing qbs for years. This garbage he is not an elite athlete is totally ridiculous! ! He is maturing and his explosion and athleticism is coming together yet. As long as he is as dedicated to the weight room as Watt and Kerrigan he will be elite. Next combine season Bosa after maturing a year Bosa will be 285 lbs 4.70-4.75 40 36" vertical 6.80 3 cone 30+ reps. And a freak of a player. Best case Jack is Luke kuechly. Best case Bosa is very close to JJ Watt. 

Edited April 10, 2016 by Winchester

[Davesta]

Myles jack wasn't even the highest rated linebacker though. I read jaylon smith pre-injury was higher rated. I would still want top pass rush over coverage LB. what's there to cover if the QBs always on the ground? 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

As the self proclaimed president of the Myles Jack fanclub I have to say... Bosa.

Hes rock solid football player who's got the potential to be a top 5 player in this league. Actually, so does Jack..

 

Oh screw it. Either is good.