[News] Eisenberg: Brace Yourself For 'The Big Sigh' Draft Pick

[BR News]

If the Ravens select a left tackle with their sixth-overall pick, there will be a collective sigh in Ravenstown. It may not happen, but if it does, you’ve been warned.

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[Bandwagon]

i was thinking about this earlier too

Im expecting it...

[ALPHA]

A "sigh" pick would also involve anyone from this Bama class.

[The Greek]

a few more weeks to go. i know it is not the sexy pick but i would not be upset if we drafted stanley with the #6 pick. if stanley is who they are targeting i believe they could move back at least 5 spots and still get him imo while acquiring more draft picks. i personally believe we are going defense with that pick unless a nice trade offer is presented which would allow us to pick up stanley a few picks later than trade some picks to get back into the late 1st rd. which we would use on a pass rusher or cb. maybe spence? eli apple? cannot wait

[fusuymada]

Mock drafts are just that, a mock, or should I say a mockery of the draft that media has developed to show they know something, or nothing. I picked a popular mock draft to look at... 2011 -Derek Sherrod OT (we picked Jimmy Smith - CB). 2012 - Peter Konz G (we picked Courtney Upshaw). 2013 - Matt Elam S (everyone got this one right, or should I say wrong). 2014 - Eric Ebron TE (we selected CJ Mosley LB) 2015 - Marcus Peters CB (we picked Breshad Perriman.

Clearly, at least as far as the Ravens go, not only are the picks wrong (except one everyone in the world got), they selected the wrong side of the ball on all but that one pick). This is a limited slice due to space but most of the drafts going back a decade reveal the same thing: Place no value in what the "experts" say the Ravens will pick. There is no inside knowledge, no understanding the team's logic, basically it's an exercise in team needs vs available picks that drive these mocks. On paper it appears the Ravens will select a left tackle, but with Monroe still on board, the pressure to select a LT is not as strong as to increase the pass rush which drives the NFL in this pass happy era. Our history has shown how crucial pass rush is and this last Super Bowl reinforced it as the Broncos completely shut down the most versatile QB in the league. Ozzie is too smart to miss that.

[reed20fence]

Frame it in terms of tangibles and the story changes. How many outcomes could have been changed if we had a rock solid blind side protector for Joe? Starting from game 1, if Joe has someone that could buy even an extra second of pocket time against a DeMarcus Ware or Von Miller, how many more completions does he make to alter the tone of the game? Even on the last two plays where SSS dropped his floater and Joe had to immediately go to the seam with Gillmore with a lob that got picked, maybe if he had time he coulda made a better pass?
All the way down to the last play where Joe had Hurst pushed into his knee and tore his acl, maybe that doesn't happen to a bigger bodied LT or a guy that's more aware of the situation and finishing his block on a play.
LTs are just as important in the complex interconnection that makes a team as a playmaking WR or LB.

[WNC-Raven]

At this point I would be disappointed if our 6th pick went to anyone not named Tunsil, Buckner, jack, Ramsey or Elliot. Picking Stanley or Bosa will be a letdown by seasons end and Hargraves would be great but not at 6. Please just no Bosa. He scares the crap out of me.

Edited April 9, 2016 by WNC-Raven
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[ravenscavecreek]

Can these writers stop with these nonsense articles. There is NO way the Ravens are picking Stanley at #6 and there is NO way Tunsil will be there when we pick.

[ravensnj]

I believe the Wizard and DeCosta have really thought though our first pick, we won't be disappointed. We will take a starter with our first pick and it doesn't matter to me what side of the board he comes from. What I am really looking forward to see, is what we do in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounds. Which OLB,ILB,CB and Wr we are going to take?

Edited April 9, 2016 by ravensnj

[usmccharles]

33 minutes ago, ravenscavecreek said:

Can these writers stop with these nonsense articles. There is NO way the Ravens are picking Stanley at #6 and there is NO way Tunsil will be there when we pick.

If one thing is certain about the the the draft it's that nothing is certain.   

[Fastynart]

Usually I think this guy is full of crap, but this time I happen to agree. The LT pick, Tunsil, not Stanley, if available, is the way to go. They have failed to get protection for Flacco at LT, signing that good for nothing Monroe to an extended contract. If you think this is wrong, ask Belichick which position is most important after the QB. Mel? What are you thinking? A RB at #6? Seriously? That is insane, with all the defensive holes the Ravens need to fill.

[JetLife94]

Fans and the FO would salivate at picking tunsil #6. To bad it only happens in my dreams.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

If the Ravens select a LT at 6th then so be it. Its not the end of the world and its not the game changing stat getting position we would like to see at the 6th pick but we need O-Line help now and in the future. I would personally prefer a defensive player because we need to get back to controlled chaos. The true fact is in this draft we could use OL, DL, ILB, OLB, S and CB. We need to have guys in place on every tier (real playmakers) of the defense to be a great and dominate defense again DL, LB and DB we have some guys who can be that piece but they are getting a little older and we need to think about the future.

[ravens4life86]

Eisenberg terrible article... horrible.. choice. So after a entire offseason of the Owner,GM etc saying we need Pass Rush..Playmakers defensively..
They are going to blow the entire next season by drafting a avg LT in Stanley...NO!
If so thats stupid.

They are going to take the 2 elite Franchise changing Pass Rusher/LBrs..to get faster and younger on the front 7 in first 2 rnds.. Bosa,Jack,Lawson,Spence,Dodd,NKemdeche,

[Mad Puppy]

sighhhhh...........

[bigcatfrank1]

If fans were to choose draft picks, the Ravens would never pick one. So many different opinions and players but the only ones that matter will be the Ravens once the 5th pick is made Draft Day. Then it will be the best player available for the Ravens, not what player a fan thinks is " a beast" or "playmaker" or "must pick". The Ravens have needs at OT, OG, ILB,CB ,DE. If the #2 Tackle in the Draft, that being Stanley, who by the way seperates himself by almost 40 positions from the next draftee, is available then they will absolutely be considering him as the #6 pick. The Left Tackle position can be the second/third highest paid position on the offensive team behind the Quarterback, that is how important it is. If Stanley were to show what the Ravens expect as a Draftee Offensive Left Tackle ( I'm sure they have seen many) they will make the right decision.

[glen ferguson]

Here's what i think will happen comes draft day. I think two qb will go in the top 5. I also think Tunsil, Ramsay will be selected too. If we stay put at 6, i think we will select Bucknor,(i love this pick). Rd 2, if Jaylon Smith is there we take him., if not we take either Jason Spriggs or Efedi Germain. Rd 3, we take Shilique Calhoun or Willie Beavers , this of course is dependent on what we do in rd 2. I say we will wait until rd 4 to take a cb, only because the cb i would have taken in rd 2 will be gone ( namely, VH 111, Apple, William Jackson, Burns) . I really like Juston Burris with our first pick in rd 4.., if not Nick Vanhoose or Leshaun Simms. With our 2nd pick in rd 4 we go Colby Listenbee or Tajae Sharp. Compensatory pick in rd 4 we go Yannick Ngakoue or Dadi Nicolas and then we look for a Dt/Nt ,say Nile Lawrence Stample with our 2nd compensatory pick. Rd 6 and Rd 7 we could just add dept, maybe an Ilb , another cb or an O-Lineman. This is how i think our draft will unravel . We will then go on to win super bowl 51. Super bowl 52 and become the next football DYNASTY. Hell yeah!!!!

[ellicottraven]

If Tunsil falls to us, I expect a great 'sigh' of excitement and relief from the fans (having been part of the forum and understanding our intelligent and informed fans' beliefs). In fact, they would expect the Ravens to cartwheel their choice to the NFL desk with giddy happiness. However, if it so happens that Stanley becomes that choice, there will be a resounding 'groan' of disappointment and frustration!
Here's what I believe the Ravens fans may like (at least me for sure) in this order:
1: Tunsil
2: Ramsey
3: Jack
4: Buckner/Bosa
At least this is the preferred choice that would get everybody in the fanbase excited and pumped!

[OrganisedChaos2]

If we got Tunsil at 6 I'd be very happy, if we got Stanley then yes I might sigh a bit. Myles Jack, Buckner or Ramsey would be very exciting.

[The Greek]

wouldnt it be something if they drafted cardale jones at #6 and traded flacco to the broncos :)

[balfan23]

John - realize most fans are not going to be disappointed about drafting an LT, they are just not convinced that THIS particular LT is an appropriate consolation prize for last season's disaster. Honestly, if there is a 5 player run on Tunsil and 4 defensive players to start the draft, I'm not sure any of the guys left, defense or offense, will be what we hoped for with what we all pray is a rare top 10 draft appearance. Naturally, there will be some studs that will emerge in the league that will be available when we pick, there just don't seem to be any that feel like "can't miss". 

[sami]

49 minutes ago, The Greek said:

wouldnt it be something if they drafted cardale jones at #6 and traded flacco to the broncos

yeah, that would be something.  And wouldn't it be something if the moon exploded just as we made that pick?

[bigcatfrank1]

Frame it in terms of tangibles and the story changes. How many outcomes could have been changed if we had a rock solid blind side protector for Joe? Starting from game 1, if Joe has someone that could buy even an extra second of pocket time against a DeMarcus Ware or Von Miller, how many more completions does he make to alter the tone of the game? Even on the last two plays where SSS dropped his floater and Joe had to immediately go to the seam with Gillmore with a lob that got picked, maybe if he had time he coulda made a better pass?
All the way down to the last play where Joe had Hurst pushed into his knee and tore his acl, maybe that doesn't happen to a bigger bodied LT or a guy that's more aware of the situation and finishing his block on a play.
LTs are just as important in the complex interconnection that makes a team as a playmaking WR or LB.

well said

[jravens1313]

BPA would not put Stanley at No. 6 overall. Buckner, Hargreaves, and Elliot should all be ranked above him. Not that it is a need, If Ozzie thinks Elliot is a Jamal Lewis type player don't be surprised if we draft him. I would prefer a defensive stud, but you gotta trust our front office. 

Edited April 9, 2016 by jravens1313

[WNC-Raven]

5 hours ago, reed20fence said:

Frame it in terms of tangibles and the story changes. How many outcomes could have been changed if we had a rock solid blind side protector for Joe? Starting from game 1, if Joe has someone that could buy even an extra second of pocket time against a DeMarcus Ware or Von Miller, how many more completions does he make to alter the tone of the game? Even on the last two plays where SSS dropped his floater and Joe had to immediately go to the seam with Gillmore with a lob that got picked, maybe if he had time he coulda made a better pass?
All the way down to the last play where Joe had Hurst pushed into his knee and tore his acl, maybe that doesn't happen to a bigger bodied LT or a guy that's more aware of the situation and finishing his block on a play.
LTs are just as important in the complex interconnection that makes a team as a playmaking WR or LB.

The issue isn't if the fan base would approve of drafting an LT at #6. It is whether Stanley is worthy of that pick.

It's also worth noting that most fans don't really care about the draft. You have to really have nothing better to do that day so sit through it. The typical start of the season has most fans getting to know the new players on our team. 2 years ago I was at M&T for the opening game sitting in a 500 section and people all around me asking each other who is number such and such. Last year I was lucky enough to be at the bengals opener sitting 12 rows back from the Ravens sideline and again heard people without a clue as to who we drafted or picked up in the offseason. As much as the media and NFL want it to be a 365 day news cycle most people are out actually enjoying their summer. Heck, most of us that use these forums are living out of state or even out of country and use it as a way to stay connected. When you live in MD purple is everywhere and you just discuss these things with your neighbors, friends and colleagues. So yeah, if we draft a non playmaker there will be grumbling but this is Baltimore so that is normal.

[bioLarzen]

BPA would not put Stanley at No. 6 overall. Buckner, Hargreaves, and Elliot should all be ranked above him. Not that it is a need, If Ozzie thinks Elliot is a Jamal Lewis type player don't be surprised if we draft him. I would prefer a defensive stud, but you gotta trust our front office. 

I think this is exctly the best and easiest way to basically rule out Ozzie picking Stanley at #6: if he really goes with the BPA, then at #6 it simply cannot be Stanley, because Stanley is in no possible way is as high as #6 on any draft board - including the Ravens'. So, he can't be Ozzie's pick at #6.

Case closed.

[JimmyBlack]

3 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

If Tunsil falls to us, I expect a great 'sigh' of excitement and relief from the fans (having been part of the forum and understanding our intelligent and informed fans' beliefs). In fact, they would expect the Ravens to cartwheel their choice to the NFL desk with giddy happiness. However, if it so happens that Stanley becomes that choice, there will be a resounding 'groan' of disappointment and frustration!
Here's what I believe the Ravens fans may like (at least me for sure) in this order:
1: Tunsil
2: Ramsey
3: Jack
4: Buckner/Bosa
At least this is the preferred choice that would get everybody in the fanbase excited and pumped!

There is very little chance of getting Tunsil, but protecting Flacco after his serious injury is a factor to consider.

[JimmyBlack]

Draftek has the 10 top draft picks as follows:

1	+3	Laremy Tunsil	Ole Miss	LOT	6'5"	310	ROT	-15	BIO	VID
2	+1	Jalen Ramsey	Florida St	CB	6'1"	209	FS	0	BIO	VID
3	-1	Carson Wentz	North Dakota St	QB	6'6"	231			BIO	VID
4	-3	Joey Bosa	Ohio State	DE43	6'5"	269	OLB34	-1	BIO	VID
5	+1	Vernon Hargreaves III	Florida	CB	5'10"	204			BIO	VID
6	-1	Jared Goff	California	QB	6'4"	210			BIO	VID
7	+2	DeForest Buckner	Oregon	DE34	6'7"	291	DE43	-8	BIO	VID
8	--	Ronnie Stanley	Notre Dame	LOT	6'6"	312	ROT	-65	BIO	VID
9	+4	Myles Jack	UCLA	OLB43	6'1"	225			BIO	VID
10	+10	Ezekiel Elliott	Ohio St	RBF	6'0"	225			BIO	VID

[mearzunkies]

IF they take a Tackle it better be Tunsil. However, he will be gone.

1) Tunsil (Come on now their franchise QB got smacked around a LOT last season)

2) Went (Maybe Goff I say Wentz. Any other choice same old Browns...)

3) Ramsey (could be Buckner both are a need. The Weddle loss makes Ramsey the choice)

4)Bosa (Should be a QB but they will take a pass rusher with the loss of Hardy the abuser)

5) Jack (They have been enamored with him since the draft talk began)

6) Buckner or Elliot(Both are immediate starters and upgrades)

IMO

[mearzunkies]

a few more weeks to go. i know it is not the sexy pick but i would not be upset if we drafted stanley with the #6 pick. if stanley is who they are targeting i believe they could move back at least 5 spots and still get him imo while acquiring more draft picks. i personally believe we are going defense with that pick unless a nice trade offer is presented which would allow us to pick up stanley a few picks later than trade some picks to get back into the late 1st rd. which we would use on a pass rusher or cb. maybe spence? eli apple? cannot wait

NO Spence NO Bosa IMO