Highest ceiling and highest floor?

[JoeyFlex5]

What prospect do you think has the highest ceiling? Who has the highest floor? 

 

For me, the highest ceiling is obviously gonna have to be Ramsey. But a sleeper for highest ceiling would also be Kevin dodd. He absolutely could be the best edge defender in this class and could become a perennial all pro under some good coaching. His size and power and burst and quickness are awe inspiring, and he also has the best motor of any defender in the class, with some good coaching on his hands I think he becomes a top 3 edge defender in the NFL in the future. 

 

Highest floor I think I would give to Bosa. He is gonna bring a good game. He will crash the line against the run and be a terror in that department. He may not bring double digit sacks, he may have to move in the 34, but he will bring disruption and draw a lot of attention from blockers and will still make his impact felt. 

[BmoreBird22]

I think Stanley is well up there for the highest ceiling if he ever found a dedication and time for the weight room.

[Maryland]

Was thinking Ramsey for ceiling and Bosa for floor before clicking the thread lol.

I guess you can add Wentz to the ceiling debate for QBs and Goff for floor. 

Buckner if he plays with better leverage could have the highest ceiling among DL. Still Bosa for floor.

Braxton Miller could very well become the best WR in this class. Treadwell the lowest floor as a bona-fide possession receiver.

[RaineV1]

I think Sterling could end up having the highest ceiling of any of the receivers. And among the DL, aside from Buckner, Butler could have the highest ceiling.

[JoeyFlex5]

For wrs I gotta give Coleman the highest ceiling. If that dude came from Alabama or LSU he would probably be a top 10 pick. His only real concern is that he wasn't consistent going over the middle and that he didn't run the full route tree because of his system, but I think the latter attributed to the former. I think if he is in a pro style system and had coaches to help him become more comfortable away from the sideline then he would. I don't see him as scared across the middle, I think it's a discomfort thing because he does it so rarely. His ability to elevate and explode to the ball and locate the ball over his shoulder is impressive and I love the fire he plays with. He's also the most explosive wr in the class imo. 

 

Treadwells floor is very high, I think he's gonna be a very good wr for whoever takes him.

[Tru11]

Bosa will have the highest floor  with i think tunsil a close 2nd.

both will be quality players.

highest floor would have been jaylon smith but ill give it to jack for now with ramsey a close 2nd.

jack athletic ability is really off the chards.
he can play all LBer positions , maybe even safety , nickle corner and even RB if needed.
If evertything works out he could be a generational talent.

 

[ALPHA]

Highest floor would be the highest rated players at each position, I am a big fan of Dodd he constantly improves and has the length and flexibility you want in an ascending pass rusher. 

[RavensFanMania]

I'd have to say the highest ceiling could go to Robert Nkemdiche.  I believe he could end up being the best player in this draft if he has good coaching and puts his mind to it.  I certainly wouldn't want to take him too high, because I have my doubts that he can put it together, but if we are talking about highest ceiling, Nkemdiche has my vote.

 

Highest floor, I agree with JoeyFlex that Bosa has the highest floor.

Edited April 8, 2016 by RavensFanMania

[Clmraven]

I think a little bit of an under the radar high ceiling guy is Bronson Kaufusi, he put up really good agility and 40 times at the combine, he could be a beast if he goes to a team that (like us) can develop Dlineman.

 

 

highest floor on the D-line has to be Bosa and Buckner.

[Dubs]

Zeke I would say has a pretty high floor, and would agree on Bosa..

 

As for ceiling like the ones pointed out--I agree heavily on Corey Coleman and for fun I will add Jaylon Smith if he comes back healthy, and William Jackson has some impressive tools to work with

[ALPHA]

32 minutes ago, RavensFanMania said:

I'd have to say the highest ceiling could go to Robert Nkemdiche.  I believe he could end up being the best player in this draft if he has good coaching and puts his mind to it.  I certainly wouldn't want to take him too high, because I have my doubts that he can put it together, but if we are talking about highest ceiling, Nkemdiche has my vote.

 

Highest floor, I agree with JoeyFlex that Bosa has the highest floor.

Charles Tapper is another freak, 4.59 second 40 at 270lb+ and an identical 10 yard split to Jadaveon Clowney.

 

[Jacquouille]

The highest ceiling, to me, is Myles Jack. If he doesn't get injured again and is used at his fullest, he's the next great LB of this league, and in 10 years we'll talk about him among the Ray Lewis, Patrick Willis and Luke Kuechly.

[GrimCoconut]

1 hour ago, ALPHA said:

Charles Tapper is another freak, 4.59 second 40 at 270lb+ and an identical 10 yard split to Jadaveon Clowney.

 

I like him but he needs better technique. I've heard somewhere that some teams like him a lot and he could go as early as the 3rd or even 2nd, probably no later than the late 4th. He kinda reminds me of a player Seattle or New England would take higher than you expect. 

Edited April 8, 2016 by GrimCoconut

[ALPHA]

10 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I like him but he needs better technique. I've heard somewhere that some teams like him a lot and he could go as early as the 3rd or even 2nd, probably no later than the late 4th. He kinda reminds me of a player Seattle or New England would take higher than you expect. 

If he reaches his potential he has the highest ceiling, but he also has a low floor and needs A LOT of coaching.

[KBoum]

Outside of the top 5-10 talent....

Ceiling : Dodd, Michael Thomas WR, McCalister the pass rusher from Florida but his floor is really really low to be honest I don't see him making the NFL at that point.

 

Floor : Bosa, Shaq Lawson, Conklin, Ragland (I mean he's not a fun pick but you know what you going to get with him)

[Kinda_Dante]

I would have to agree with the highest floor is going to be Bosa and the highest ceiling would be Ramsey.

[808Blackbirds]

Jaylon Smith

[Winchester]

Ceiling the best is Nkemdiche and Ron Stanley  and I would like to throw Jack in there. HOWEVER He did not look physical playing better teams. At least not like Pat Willis did. He looks not even close to 245 lbs when he played!! Now he checks in at 245 and will not run a 40??  But he is an elite prospect. And will be welcome

Edited April 8, 2016 by Winchester

[usmccharles]

6 minutes ago, Winchester said:

Ceiling the best is Nkemdiche and Ron Stanley  and I would like to throw Jack in there. HOWEVER He did not look physical playing better teams. At least not like Pat Willis did. He looks not even close to 245 lbs when he played!! Now he checks in at 245 and will not run a 40??  But is an elite prospect.

I think Nkemdiche has a high ceiling but I think he has a very low floor.  I'm starting to really like Cravens

[Winchester]

43 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

I think Nkemdiche has a high ceiling but I think he has a very low floor.  I'm starting to really like Cravens

Yes he has amazing coverage instincts and is very physical!! He should settle in at about 230/235 lbs. I like him better than Deion Jones now. A player I really like a lot!! And in agree about Nkemdiche high ceiling but risky. I really like Ngakoue as well. With some tweaks in his body and play technique he could be a consistent double digits. He is as skilled as Spence. However he will be drafted top50 picks in my opinion. 

[Jacquouille]

My opinion on Cravens is always up and down. Sometimes I think he is The answer for us, sometimes I'm not sure what we could do with him...

Edited April 8, 2016 by Jacquouille

[JoeyFlex5]

Cravens could very well be a first round talent that falls to our 2nd round pick. If we trade back to LA or maybe the jets and take a lawson, dodd, or Spence in the first and then cravens and Alexander in the 2nd, then we would completely revamp our defense 

[thieverycorporation]

8 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Cravens could very well be a first round talent that falls to our 2nd round pick. If we trade back to LA or maybe the jets and take a lawson, dodd, or Spence in the first and then cravens and Alexander in the 2nd, then we would completely revamp our defense 

I told you Cravens would be key. He's the enforcer aka E.Reed 2.0 

I'll Go a step further and say I'd like to take Fuller/Zeke in the first to lift the top off the slot. Cravens in the second which I think solidifies several positions (S-LB- ST). 3rd round go's to defense of which I'm mulling over currently.

Edited April 9, 2016 by thieverycorporation

[Winchester]

Would prefer Stanley Ngakoue and Cravens. I do not really want a cornerback in early rounds. I like will Davis a lot. If he could play 16 games he was clearly the best dback when he played.  Nkemdiche Spence and Cravens completely retools the front 7. it would be cool to trade down and get Stanley at 8 then pick up Cravens and Ngakoue in round2. Then Boyd in early round3 but that is a stretch. Then Demarcus Robinson round4.

[RayRocks]

44 minutes ago, Winchester said:

Would prefer Stanley Ngakoue and Cravens. I do not really want a cornerback in early rounds. I like will Davis a lot. If he could play 16 games he was clearly the best dback when he played.  Nkemdiche Spence and Cravens completely retools the front 7. it would be cool to trade down and get Stanley at 8 then pick up Cravens and Ngakoue in round2. Then Boyd in early round3 but that is a stretch. Then Demarcus Robinson round4.

I agree that our corner depth isn't nearly as bad as it's made out to be and that Will Davis could be a pleasant surprise.  Between Smith, Wright, Davis and Arrington, (and Webb having the ability to play slot) I think 1 more solid corner as a development/ST guy would be great.  I'd be happy with taking one in the 3rd or 4th round.

[thieverycorporation]

Receiving corp for upcoming season:

Perriman

SSsr

Wallace

Aiken

Fuller/Zeke/Fuller/Drake/Shepard/Boyd (pick one)

Maxx

Gilmore

Boyle after suspension 

And whomever makes it out of camp. Campanaro,

 

 

 

 

[Maryland]

17 hours ago, ALPHA said:

Charles Tapper is another freak, 4.59 second 40 at 270lb+ and an identical 10 yard split to Jadaveon Clowney.

It kind of sucks for the Ravens that he had such a good combine to put him on other teams' radars. They were reportedly very interested in him before the combine, probably eyeing him as a day 3 steal. Now they would have to take him on day 2 if they still want him most likely.

[ALPHA]

9 minutes ago, Maryland said:

It kind of sucks for the Ravens that he had such a good combine to put him on other teams' radars. They were reportedly very interested in him before the combine, probably eyeing him as a day 3 steal. Now they would have to take him on day 2 if they still want him most likely.

He probably will be a 3rd day guy but I would probably pass on him personally he has a lot he has to put together his athleticism is just the foundation. He does reminds me of Adalius Thomas, same build, elite athleticism, late projection but that doesn't mean he's going to be AD.

I think James Cowsey is a guy who could become a special player, he was a man among boys in the I-AA smashing Jared Allens sack record by 5.

[RavensDieHard21]

Highest Ceilings of prospects in top 10: Buckner and Ramsey, maybe even Hargreaves. 

Buckner if coached well could continue to work on technique and ways to win with finesse moves on top of his power, he could become another all-pro lineman if he stays committed and is in the right system. Ramsey's speed, athleticism, and instincts could make him the most well-rounded corner in the league as he could do it all if he continues to grow. Hargreaves is a technician and if he continues to stay true to his craft and is able to fend off large WRs then he might be another shut down corner. 

Highest Floors: Bosa, Lawson, and Elliot. They are just very well polished coming in and will not disappoint. The pass rushing technique and ability to shut down the run are both clearly evident with Bosa and Lawson, on top of being leaders. Elliot is a work horse and can do everything exceptionally well in the running, catching, and blocking departments.

[ALPHA]

C.J Prosise has a similar ceiling to Ezekiel Elliot