[News] Late For Work 4/6: Why Myles Jack Would Make Perfect Pairing With C.J. Mosley

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The Ravens have a big opportunity to restore their gold-standard draft reputation. Stephen A. Smith applauds Steve Smith Sr. for speaking out against domestic violence. Eugene Monroe better option than Ronnie Stanley?

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[BmoreB]

Patrick Gleason left out Duane Starks.. Come on man !

[salamander]

Thank you Steve Smith for speaking up publicly about Domestic Violence in response to Greg Hardy's denials. So glad SSS is a Raven and that he always tells it like it is.

Edited April 6, 2016 by salamander

[bioLarzen]

"Jack is one of the most intriguing draft prospects due to his freakish athleticism and versatility that would allow the Ravens to plug him in at inside linebacker, safety, slot corner, occasional pass rusher or even running back."

So, he would be a genuine (puts on sunglasses) Jack-of-all-trades...

[budman]

Just now, bioLarzen said:

"Jack is one of the most intriguing draft prospects due to his freakish athleticism and versatility that would allow the Ravens to plug him in at inside linebacker, safety, slot corner, occasional pass rusher or even running back."

So, he would be a genuine (puts on sunglasses) Jack-of-all-trades...

Crickets! Lol

[bioLarzen]

"(Not everyone is drooling over him, by the way. Bleacher Report’s Ian Wharton thinks Jack is more projection than sure thing.)"

EVERY SINGLE ROOKIE is mora a project than a sure thing. There are no sure picks in the draft. Guys every single analyst drool over can flop, and players nobody even mentions may end up in Canton. There are no 100% guaranteed picks. If we take the "10 best prospects", you will find respectable analysts for every singly one of them who will say the guy is a real star in the making, and another one who says he's actually not that good, and would, in fact, be a risky pick for this or that reason. Ramsey, Bosa, Tunsil, Jack, Stanley, Buckner - you name it. We've read great and not-so-great reviews on each oine of those guys. There's simply no way telling which of them is gonna be a star in the NFL and which of them isn't...

Whoever is gonna be picked 1-5, I'm more than sure there are gonna be at least half a dozen players that ar gonna be worth picking, and can turn out to be legendary picks. If the "concensus" top 5 picks (Tunsil, Wentz, Bosa, Ramsey, Jack) are all gone, there's still Buckner, Hargreaves, Elliott, Stanley etc... And all of them could end up being a better player than any of the 5 already picked...

One thing's for sure: if we pick at #6 - or not much later - a potential star is gonna be picked. It's almost impossible to pick "obviously wrong" if you have the draft team the Ravens have.

[bioLarzen]

As for Monroe: what makes the decision about him really hard - apart from the financial side of it - is that when Monroe was on the field last season, he was actually not at all a bad LT. and not only compared to Hurst: he graded out easily in the top half of the list in the PFF rankings for LT's.
Yep, of course, no matter how good you play your position if you can't play because you're injured... And that's what we, fans, can't know: how much Monroe's health can be trusted for the 2016 season... If he can stay healthy, we have every reason to believe he will stand his ground.

[YorkCountyRaven]

It would take a very particular situation for Jack to fall to us... No matter the perfection of the pick. That would be sheer hope for us ravens fans.

[ellicottraven]

I'm all in with Monroe as well. I would rather he perform than we waste a pick in Stanley quite frankly.

[eze17]

I really am not all up on the Raven's using the #6 pick on Stanley either...yes he may be a decent OL, but I would not consider him a "stud" either. We need to draft a game changer with this pick, and other than Tunsil there just isn't a blue-chip OL in this draft. There are alot of good ones though, so I would not be surprised to see us take a tackle within the first four rounds. As long as we stay at #6, i'm expecting a defensive player who will come right in and start.

And I have been saying that when healthy, Monroe is a good, capable LT. If we picked Stanley at #6, he would be expected to start immediately. I guess we could put him at guard for a year like we did with Ogden, but I just don't see us reaching for a LT when we have more pressing needs on defense. Not to mention that with Flacco coming back from his injury, would you really want an inexperienced rookie protecting his blind side?

[steelcityraven]

I really like the thoughts of Myles Jack with that speed and pass coverage skills and versatility.... Seeing him beside CJ for the next several years would ensue that BMROE remains a fearsome defense... I like Buckner but buckner raises the question: Who do we trust less... (ABrown or BUrban)? I think there are still high hopes for Urban and missing out on Buckner may not be as big of a deal bc of the personal that we already have. Missing out on Jack would mean that we are moving forward with Orr, ABrown or someone else that we pick up later in the draft. Looks to me like that biggest impact play maker that will be available for us at #6 will be Jack (unless God shines on us a somewhow Ramsey falls to 6)????

[steelcityraven]

It would take a very particular situation for Jack to fall to us... No matter the perfection of the pick. That would be sheer hope for us ravens fans.

IDK.... Tunsil, Ramsey and Bosa should all go before Jack... Buckner, Goff, Wentz, Stanley, VHIII, and Tradwell are all wildcards... (heck even Zeke Elliot could be a factor)..Docston and Eli Apple could also jump up the board. I really think that one of the 5 defensive players have to fall to us at # 6... (Ramsey, Bosa, Jack, Buckner, VHIII) I really think there is a good chance that Jack falls to number 6... if not we still have some great options but wouldn't be surprised to see Jack still there.

[steelcityraven]

If Rmsy, Bosa, Jack and Buckner all fall off of the board by 6... I wonder if we would trade back? I know that VHIII is still there but is he worth a # 6? Do we think that much more highly of VHIII then Eli Apple or MAlexander or o we even think that much more of buckner then say Shaq Lawson? If the answer is no.... then I could see us trading back and landing one of those guys and adding great value with increased picks in what should already be a stacked draft for us! Ozzie could pull the trigger and really load up for another couple of title runs over the next 4-5 years!

[eze17]

I'm almost positive Ramsey will be gone by #6, and my thoughts are Jack will also be gone...that would leave Bosa/Buckner, either which would be O.K. with me. Another player who keeps popping up is vernon Hargreaves, who I also would not be dissapointed with should we take him. From what i've been able to gather, he seems like a solid CB, which is a position of need also. I'm just hoping we go with defense, as other than Tunsil I don't see anyone (including Stanley) who can be a real difference maker (than maybe Elliott, which is a whole 'nother discussion...).

[ryananth]

I still say we will have teams that need a qb dying to have our pick at 6 to get ahead of the Niners. Rams, Eagles,....

[steelcityraven]

I still say we will have teams that need a qb dying to have our pick at 6 to get ahead of the Niners. Rams, Eagles,....

I think I am with you (depending on how this plays out) Ramsey and Jack could be the two biggest difference makers (immediate impact players)... if they are both off of the board and we pulled the trigger on a trade and took (shaq Lawson instead of buckner or MAlexander instead of VHIII) I really would feel like that was a win for us (assuming we staked up at least 1 other pick) In other words is we had the option of taking buckner and traded back and landed say MAlexander or Eli Apple and Noah Spence or Shaun Oakman (and still had our 2nd rounder) that would be a win!

[cbrook1862]

Either get Bosa, Buckner, or Jack(top defensive players who my be available) at #6, or trade back to get Noah Spence, who has been said to be the best pure pass rusher in the draft, and take the best corner available in the 2nd round, along with the best OT available with the extra pick.

[cbrook1862]

Or Shaw Lawson, I meant to add him as well.

[eze17]

With will Hill, nick Boyle and asa Jackson all succumbing to failed drug tests recently, I don't know if the FO would seriously consider noah Spence...He is an absolute beast and would be in the top tier of the draft, but would we pull the trigger on a guy who has already failed two drug tests? I've read alot of people pushing to trade #6 and drop back to snag him, but I can't see that...

[alexbayrobin]

This is a great year for trying to figure out what the Ravens will do. I think that whatever they do will be great. We are in a position to do great things this year.

[eyeoftheraven]

Myles Jack baby. please please please. and than Shaq Lawson....am I dreaming....

[rmcjacket23]

3 hours ago, steelcityraven said:

IDK.... Tunsil, Ramsey and Bosa should all go before Jack... Buckner, Goff, Wentz, Stanley, VHIII, and Tradwell are all wildcards... (heck even Zeke Elliot could be a factor)..Docston and Eli Apple could also jump up the board. I really think that one of the 5 defensive players have to fall to us at # 6... (Ramsey, Bosa, Jack, Buckner, VHIII) I really think there is a good chance that Jack falls to number 6... if not we still have some great options but wouldn't be surprised to see Jack still there.

I'm not even sure why Treadwell is being discussed anymore. Not even viewed as a realistic top 15 prospect, and recent reports suggest he may not even be the first WR off the board.

Good player, but far from the top 10 first round type WRs we've seen picked recently.

I'd say he's most likely a back end-teens, early 20s type pick.

[eyeoftheraven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duQ0csOVe4I

We have got to get Jack.....

[eyeoftheraven]

We have got to get Jack. I'm hearing Dallas looking for a QB and Eagles want to trade up for Wentz..... 29th can't get here quick enough.

Can you imagine the Ravens with Myles Jack and Shaq Lawson and Mosley........ my god people that's how we won in 2000, 3 of the best linebackers in football, Lewis, Bowlware and Sharper.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

Earlier on I was iffy about Myles Jack because of his size and his knee injuries. The fact that he won't run a 40 at all bothers me a bit too. He tore a meniscus in his knee which can be a big deal depending on how serious it was. You don't grow that back and I think micro fracture surgery is the repair for a bad meniscus tear. It usually takes a year just to recover from that and even so you don't really know if it is going to be 100% successful. It is a risky pick. If the Ravens are absolutely convinced he's healthy, then yeah I would go for it if he's there.

I think Staley is a reach at #6, I don't think Bosa fits our scheme, so perhaps the logical pick is Buckner even though we do have depth at that position. We don't have Canty anymore, but I actually like Lawrence Guy. Brent Urban so far can't stay healthy and Carl Davis didn't show much yet.

I don't like Hargreaves at #6 either, I just don't think he's got what it takes to be a good NFL corner and I don't like Ramsey as a CB either.

If the Ravens have to reach at 6, then they might as well trade down and try to get extra picks and more overall value.

[Shaky End of the Quarter]

Myles Jack baby. please please please. and than Shaq Lawson....am I dreaming....

No, you are not dreaming. You are hallucinating.

[ALPHA]

11 minutes ago, Shaky End of the Quarter said:

No, you are not dreaming. You are hallucinating.

Double hallucinating. Whatever he's on I want some.

[joeyclark3994]

9 hours ago, bioLarzen said:

"Jack is one of the most intriguing draft prospects due to his freakish athleticism and versatility that would allow the Ravens to plug him in at inside linebacker, safety, slot corner, occasional pass rusher or even running back."

So, he would be a genuine (puts on sunglasses) Jack-of-all-trades...

 

30 minutes ago, Shaky End of the Quarter said:

No, you are not dreaming. You are hallucinating.

we have enough special teams lb all ready, to small, anyone remember Clowny, better the receiver from last year Bradsheird, hes got a torn knee, Not in the first round!

[bigcatfrank1]

I'm all in with Monroe as well. I would rather he perform than we waste a pick in Stanley quite frankly.

First off, how can you be all in on Monroe when he hasnt played a snap in 2 years. Second, he has been over paid for most of the time he has been on the team, if he does play even OK, would you keep him going into his 9th NFL season? Third, How can you consider Stanley a waste of a pick? you do not know that, you may think it, but many dont agree with you. In fact most of the NFL scouts, coaches, and trainers. Lastly, Stanley is most probably going to be a player at #6 that the Ravens will have to choose from. The question is who else will be left on the board and which ones mean more to the Ravens in the long run. I for one Want Joe Flacco protected at ALL COSTS!! If Joe spends his time running around from Defensive ends and LB most of the season, you will be sorry. If Stanley has the talent, and he showed incredible talent in college, to develop as a good LT in the NFL then there is no doubt the Ravens should take him at #6.

[ellicottraven]

12 minutes ago, bigcatfrank1 said:

First off, how can you be all in on Monroe when he hasnt played a snap in 2 years. Second, he has been over paid for most of the time he has been on the team, if he does play even OK, would you keep him going into his 9th NFL season? Third, How can you consider Stanley a waste of a pick? you do not know that, you may think it, but many dont agree with you. In fact most of the NFL scouts, coaches, and trainers. Lastly, Stanley is most probably going to be a player at #6 that the Ravens will have to choose from. The question is who else will be left on the board and which ones mean more to the Ravens in the long run. I for one Want Joe Flacco protected at ALL COSTS!! If Joe spends his time running around from Defensive ends and LB most of the season, you will be sorry. If Stanley has the talent, and he showed incredible talent in college, to develop as a good LT in the NFL then there is no doubt the Ravens should take him at #6.

What do you mean he hasn't played a snap in 2 yrs? He's missed a bunch of games but he has suited up in 2015 before being put on IR. So, I don't really get where you're coming from. If you mean he hasn't played enough, I can understand. Also, you must clearly know that this is an experienced LT and a pretty decent one when healthy and he understands our offensive scheme pretty well. So, if he's healthy and participates in OTAs and TC are you telling me a rookie LT will play better than him from the get go? I don't think so and that was the reason why I said what I said. More importantly I would rather save the cap hit by playing him than depend on a rookie or even another injured LT like a Clady or anybody else.