My draft Nightmare

[PimpDaddyGrimes]

my nightmare is no one in front of us selects a QB

[PolishRifle]

Bosa, Jack, VH3. Those are the possible picks the Ravens will make in the draft and atleast one of them will be available, imho. We're in a really good position to get an impact player for next season.

 

2 minutes ago, PimpDaddyGrimes said:

my nightmare is no one in front of us selects a QB

Then you've got nothing to fear, because it won't happen.

Edited April 5, 2016 by PolishRifle

[PimpDaddyGrimes]

9 minutes ago, PolishRifle said:

Bosa, Jack, VH3. Those are the possible picks the Ravens will make in the draft and atleast one of them will be available, imho. We're in a really good position to get an impact player for next season.

 

Then you've got nothing to fear, because it won't happen.

Oh yeah I know it wont happen but if it did we would be screwed realistically its picking Stanley. I like Buckner not my favorite but I like him I would be fine taking him Just not Ronnie Stanley not a fan of him at all

[AnthonyGames]

I think we could get a good tackle prospect in rounds 2-4 - a guy that doesn't have to start right away and can play behind Monroe and learn technique from Castillo and crew. So, yes, Stanley would be my worst case scenario. As for Buckner, I think he would be a really good scheme fit for us. You look at a guy like Leonard Williams, whom many people considered the number one talent in the draft, and Buckner had a lot more QB pressures, more sacks, and tackles for loss his senior year. Buckners PPF rating (if that means anything to you) was by far the highest for a college DT and was the highest in two years. Buckner is a beast in the trenches and wreaks havoc on guards, especially if Brandon Williams was next to him and Dumveril or Suggs rushing on the other side of him. While he does cause a lot of disruption in the pass rush, he's a great run defender too.

Buckner is most compared to Calais Campbell and rightfully so. They both have similar elite size and had very similar combine numbers (Buckner slightly better). Calais Cambell is the second best 3-4 DE in the NFL, behind JJ, of course. Buckner, B. Williams, and Jernigan would be pretty nasty, and would surely disrupt the line a scrimmage.

[TNRaven24]

On April 4, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Kinda_Dante said:

As of right now two players I would hate to see the Ravens draft with the 6th pick are Deforest Buckner and Ronnie Stanley. Unfortunately I see them going to the Ravens in various Mock Drafts!! What would be your least favorite pick the Ravens could realistically make in the first round?

 

Agreed to an extent.  Buckner is good, but I don't want to use the 6th pick on him.  If they're able to trade back, get extra picks and still take him then that would be ok.

[JoeyFlex5]

My nightmare is trading back and taking Reggie ragland with our first pick. 

[PimpDaddyGrimes]

13 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

My nightmare is trading back and taking Reggie ragland with our first pick. 

Oh god that would make me so mad to have a slow thumper type player next to Mosley would not help at all

[ALPHA]

23 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

My nightmare is trading back and taking Reggie ragland with our first pick. 

Don't even play like that

[Kinda_Dante]

20 minutes ago, TNRaven24 said:

Agreed to an extent.  Buckner is good, but I don't want to use the 6th pick on him.  If they're able to trade back, get extra picks and still take him then that would be ok.

Yea I guess that wouldn't be too bad if we can get some extra picks and still get him. I just think he's more of a project than the media wants us to believe, and if VH3, Bosa, or Jack are on the board I'd rather take any of them. I know most of you probably won't agree but I would probably even take Ezekiel Elliot over him.

[JoeyFlex5]

Don't act like it hasnt crossed ur mind lol. You know there's a chance it happens... I just really hope not lol

[Dame2]

On April 4, 2016 at 0:52 PM, Kinda_Dante said:

As of right now two players I would hate to see the Ravens draft with the 6th pick are Deforest Buckner and Ronnie Stanley. Unfortunately I see them going to the Ravens in various Mock Drafts!! What would be your least favorite pick the Ravens could realistically make in the first round?

 

Buckner is a beast and would get pressure plus make it easy on our outside linebackers Dude is 6"7 291 with good hands and feet Stanley yeah but Buckner I don't understand one reason the Ravens pass defense was so bad early is because we couldn't get pressure this dude Buckner can do it .

[Dame2]

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

My nightmare is trading back and taking Reggie ragland with our first pick. 

What about Jaylan Smith I'm hearing he slides out of the 1st round if not for the injury he would be top 5 pick

[berad]

3 minutes ago, Dame2 said:

What about Jaylan Smith I'm hearing he slides out of the 1st round if not for the injury he would be top 5 pick

What if he's sliding because his knee is totally shot?

[KBoum]

Medical report on Jaylons knee at the combine was not good. Nerve damage. They will have a 2nd look soon on him but if hes got nerve damage, I dont see him go before the 4th round a bit like Lattimore.

 

1st round pick count on the salary cap for a good amount depending on the spot. I don't see a team drafting him and hes not playing for 2 years

[JoeyFlex5]

I'm in the minority and I'm ok with it, I think jaylon Smith even without the injury is overrated. Tackles for a LB mean nothing of he's making them 8 yards downfield because he gives up too much ground because he plays like he's scared of contact. 

 

I know I'll get bashed for this opinion and I'm ok with it. I also admit I flip flopped on him and Jack real hard.

[thieverycorporation]

I liked JS tape but wouldn't take a risk as we already have a major distraction at receiver. Two rookies not being fielded in consecutive years isn't going to fly. Unless he's the last pick for us and even then I maybe hesitant to do so. 

Gurly looks great now but the jury is still out as far as longevity. I just wish we could even say that about Perriman lol

Edited April 5, 2016 by thieverycorporation

[GrimCoconut]

26 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'm in the minority and I'm ok with it, I think jaylon Smith even without the injury is overrated. Tackles for a LB mean nothing of he's making them 8 yards downfield because he gives up too much ground because he plays like he's scared of contact. 

 

I know I'll get bashed for this opinion and I'm ok with it. I also admit I flip flopped on him and Jack real hard.

You know I also recall people saying the same about Luke Kuechly making a ton of tackles but getting them 8-10 yards downfield. Smith was admittedly on a better team, but it's a similar principle. 

[JoeyFlex5]

51 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

You know I also recall people saying the same about Luke Kuechly making a ton of tackles but getting them 8-10 yards downfield. Smith was admittedly on a better team, but it's a similar principle. 

I wasn't studying the draft the way I am now when kuechly was coming out so I have no comment there. I just know I'm not a big fan of Smith's tape after watching him over and over, and that is not even considering the injury and the fact that we would really struggle finding a fit for him in our defense. 

[GrimCoconut]

3 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I wasn't studying the draft the way I am now when kuechly was coming out so I have no comment there. I just know I'm not a big fan of Smith's tape after watching him over and over, and that is not even considering the injury and the fact that we would really struggle finding a fit for him in our defense. 

Oh I understand. Just telling you what I remember hearing at the time regarding Kuechly and that similarity. 

[Mad Puppy]

On 4/4/2016 at 7:38 PM, Somerset Ravens said:

Round 1.   Ronnie Stanley

Round 2.   Jaylon Smith

Round 3.   Braxton Miller

Oye! That is a NIGHTMARE!

[Mad Puppy]

On 4/4/2016 at 7:27 PM, edthehead said:

I have 2 fears

1. that we do not trade back, please trade back FO

      a) I think there will be a lot  instant coffee in the 2nd rd

2. after we trade back we are not aggressive that we sit and wait for BPA

      we  need to work this draft

 

IDK I think you are over valuing a trade back.

[BmoreBird22]

2 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

You know I also recall people saying the same about Luke Kuechly making a ton of tackles but getting them 8-10 yards downfield. Smith was admittedly on a better team, but it's a similar principle. 

I was waiting for someone to make this comparison so that I didn't look crazy for saying it.

[GrimCoconut]

53 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I was waiting for someone to make this comparison so that I didn't look crazy for saying it.

Yeah, I just remember that draft really well. People said the exact same thing about Luke Kuechly. I remember those concerns quite a bit. As if Kuechly would suck  and his numbers were high because he made tackles 8-10 yards. I mean, he turned out OK. No idea if Smith does the same, and I doubt it, but it's an interesting comparison. 

[BmoreBird22]

3 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Yeah, I just remember that draft really well. People said the exact same thing about Luke Kuechly. I remember those concerns quite a bit. As if Kuechly would suck  and his numbers were high because he made tackles 8-10 yards. I mean, he turned out OK. No idea if Smith does the same, and I doubt it, but it's an interesting comparison. 

I remember laughing at the pick (literally) because I highly doubted his ability to attack A and B gaps in the run game or as a blitzer.

[GrimCoconut]

I recall having similar questions. I feel like he made us both look dumb, lol.

[JoeyFlex5]

2 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

I recall having similar questions. I feel like he made us both look dumb, lol.

While I don't remember kuechly as a prospect.. I struggle to believe that it's a solid comparison but I could be wrong lol. Wasn't kuechly much more compact and powerful than Smith coming out?

[RavensDieHard21]

3 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

Yeah, I just remember that draft really well. People said the exact same thing about Luke Kuechly. I remember those concerns quite a bit. As if Kuechly would suck  and his numbers were high because he made tackles 8-10 yards. I mean, he turned out OK. No idea if Smith does the same, and I doubt it, but it's an interesting comparison. 

Turned out OK? Was that intentional lol? I think Kuechly is the best MLB/ILB in the entire NFL and second place isn't even close. I watched a bit of him at BC and he always had that killer instinct and solid tackling, but now at the pro level he commands the front 7, clogs running lanes, blitzes very well, and simply makes plays all over the field. He is a ball magnet, which I actually see Jack turning into as well, so I hope we land him! 

[GrimCoconut]

39 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

While I don't remember kuechly as a prospect.. I struggle to believe that it's a solid comparison but I could be wrong lol. Wasn't kuechly much more compact and powerful than Smith coming out?

Well, yeah, duh. They're both the same height but Kuechly had more muscle to him. Don't get caught up too much on the semantics of things here. You said that you saw Smith make plays and tackles after 8-10 yards or whatever (paraphrasing here), but the same concerns surrounded Kuechly. This is the comparison made between Smith and Kuechly. I remember Kuechly really well. The biggest difference is that Smith had a lot of talent around him (Notre Dame is not Boston College) compared to Kuechly. I'm not saying Notre Dame have a bunch of studs on their DL, but it is and was certainly better than that DL Kuechly had, which was horrible. 

I was following the draft during the 2012 draft, so I remember this stuff well. I'm not talking down to you here--I just want to clarify that. Text makes people sound condescending at times. 

[KDUBB44]

How I think the draft will most likely end up

1. Tunsil

2. Wentz/Goff

3. This is the important one. Based on who SD picks we'll likely decide if we pick one of the safe three (Ramsey, Jack,  Bosa, Buckner). SD eventually pick Ramsey

4. Bosa

5. Jack

6. This is interesting.Buckner is BPA yet I can see us taking VH3. Wouldn't mind either.

I think worst case scenario we pick someone like Treadwell or Elliot. I don't think Elliot is bad value but it's time to stop selecting RB in the top ten regardless of talent.

 

[usmccharles]

2 hours ago, KDUBB44 said:

How I think the draft will most likely end up

1. Tunsil

2. Wentz/Goff

3. This is the important one. Based on who SD picks we'll likely decide if we pick one of the safe three (Ramsey, Jack,  Bosa, Buckner). SD eventually pick Ramsey

4. Bosa

5. Jack

6. This is interesting.Buckner is BPA yet I can see us taking VH3. Wouldn't mind either.

I think worst case scenario we pick someone like Treadwell or Elliot. I don't think Elliot is bad value but it's time to stop selecting RB in the top ten regardless of talent.

 

I completely agree with all of this.  Our DLine would be pretty nasty, the only thing is that we are good at developing later round picks in this area, so I feel like taking someone 6th overall is kind of a waste.