2016 Baltimore Orioles

[Moderator 3]

3 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Considering he can't even go down to the minors, because you can bet the Rays are taking him back if we even tried. 

Question: how long do we have to keep a Rule 5 player "up"?  It obviously isn't forever, so there must be a time limit.  

[Moderator 3]

Never mind, found it on MLB.com.  Entire season.

 

What happens when a player is selected in the Rule 5 Draft?

A team that selects a player in the Rule 5 Draft pays $50,000 to the team from which he was selected. The receiving team must then keep the player on the Major League 25-man roster for the entirety of the next season, and the selected player must remain active (not on the disabled list) for a minimum of 90 days. If the player does not remain on the Major League roster, he is offered back to the team from which he was selected for $25,000. If his original team declines, the receiving team may waive the player.

[Cville-Raven]

1 hour ago, Tank 92 said:

Did you see the catch he made last night to save a big inning?  Did you see he accounted for two of our three runs? Walker may be brought up at some point, but it won't be Joey going down.

Seriously enough with this nonsense. Also has anyone mentioned that walker is a first baseman. We've already got one outfielder playing out of position and he's terrible defensively, we don't need another.

Edited April 22, 2016 by Cville-Raven

[OriolesMagicPlease]

4 hours ago, Steve0x said:

Did you see him drop the ball tank? Any outfielder can make that catch. I understand he's a rookie and thats what rookies do,,They make mistakes. But why not bring up Christian Walker? They guy is on fire.

You seriously want to get rid of Rickard? He saved a home run in the first inning last night with his defense, not to mention his speed really helping us on the bases.  And the throw the other night was accurate and a laser. He dove and missed it, but recovered nicely. Do you even know what bad defense looks like?

[Steve0x]

He doesn't have to be sent down to Minors. Just put him at DH spot so that way he cant make any mistakes in left field. But he was lucky.. Errors can cost you the game. 

Edited April 22, 2016 by Steve0x

[rmw10]

Just now, Steve0x said:

He doesn't have to be sent down to Minors. Just put him at DH spot so that way he cant make any mistakes in left field

You keep clamoring for Christian Walker, but do you even know if he could play a solid defense?  He literally just moved to the OF in March.

[OriolesMagicPlease]

5 minutes ago, Steve0x said:

He doesn't have to be sent down to Minors. Just put him at DH spot so that way he cant make any mistakes in left field. But he was lucky.. Errors can cost you the game. 

Why are you harping on his defense? It is not like his glove is costing us games. I just don't get it.

[Steve0x]

It could..I have seen games when a fielder dropped the ball that should have been final out and you see a big inning rally after that. 

[OriolesMagicPlease]

2 minutes ago, Steve0x said:

It could..I have seen games when a fielder dropped the ball that should have been final out and you see a big inning rally after that. 

I'm not arguing that bad defense doesn't affect the game, I'm arguing that Joey is not a liability in the outfield.

 

[Steve0x]

Just wait ok.. Im saying one of these games when he drops the ball and then we wind up losing by a run. Im going to place the blame on Buck.Hes just a rookie and rookies make mistakes in any sport. Go watch highlights of the 62 Mets on their first major league season the whole team was full of rookies they made comedy of errors. Minor league games are one thing,,But going to the Major leagues is a whole different story and Rickard is learning what it like playing in the major leagues. So far his bat is awesome ok,,But his fielding is average.  Even Rick Dempsey pointed it out when Rickard was making a catch in foul territory and runner tagged up and scored. A Veteran outfielder would have drooped the ball so you can give a pitcher a chance to strike him out instead having that run scored.  

Edited April 22, 2016 by Steve0x

[Cville-Raven]

1 hour ago, Steve0x said:

He doesn't have to be sent down to Minors. Just put him at DH spot so that way he cant make any mistakes in left field. But he was lucky.. Errors can cost you the game. 

You should be going after Trumbo if you're talking defense. Dude is absolutely garbage as a right fielder.

[OriolesMagicPlease]

53 minutes ago, Steve0x said:

Just wait ok.. Im saying one of these games when he drops the ball and then we wind up losing by a run. Im going to place the blame on Buck.Hes just a rookie and rookies make mistakes in any sport. Go watch highlights of the 62 Mets on their first major league season the whole team was full of rookies they made comedy of errors. Minor league games are one thing,,But going to the Major leagues is a whole different story and Rickard is learning what it like playing in the major leagues. So far his bat is awesome ok,,But his fielding is average.  Even Rick Dempsey pointed it out when Rickard was making a catch in foul territory and runner tagged up and scored. A Veteran outfielder would have drooped the ball so you can give a pitcher a chance to strike him out instead having that run scored.  

I agree about Trumbo.

So, basically you are against rookies playing? Of course they are going to make mistakes. Veterans and All Stars make mistakes that cost games too. No player is perfect. Btw, did you see Bautista miss that ball in right field last night that allowed the O's to score?

Edited April 22, 2016 by OriolesMagicPlease

[Steve0x]

Veterans make mistakes but rookies make a lot more mistakes. Its like in our jobs our bosses aren't really mean to us,,They just know what you cant handle and what you can do. They want the best man for that type of job. Thats why i can never get promoted. Cause i don't have the type of skills to get that promotion. 

[Moderator 3]

You HAVE to let rookies make some mistakes so they can learn from them and improve.  There was a time when Adam Jones dropped balls, too, and look how he developed.  If Rickard was messing up every inning it would be different, but a mistake once in a while happens.  Everybody makes errors.

[Cville-Raven]

Gallardo is going to kill us

[rmw10]

8 minutes ago, Cville-Raven said:

The entire starting pitching staff is going to kill us

Fixed.

[Steve0x]

Mod 3 theres a reason why the Rays allowed Rickard to be a rule 5 draft. Maybe they saw something negative. Why you think Manny Machado could never be a rule 5 when he was in O's system. Suppose O's allowed him be a rule 5 draft? I guarantee you the Yankees would jump all over on it. 

[rmw10]

10 minutes ago, Steve0x said:

Mod 3 theres a reason why the Rays allowed Rickard to be a rule 5 draft. Maybe they saw something negative. Why you think Manny Machado could never be a rule 5 when he was in O's system. Suppose O's allowed him be a rule 5 draft? I guarantee you the Yankees would jump all over on it. 

Lol that's not even comparable.  Manny was a top 3 pick and was up in the majors before he would have even been eligible for the rule 5 draft.

[Cville-Raven]

15 minutes ago, Steve0x said:

Mod 3 theres a reason why the Rays allowed Rickard to be a rule 5 draft. Maybe they saw something negative. Why you think Manny Machado could never be a rule 5 when he was in O's system. Suppose O's allowed him be a rule 5 draft? I guarantee you the Yankees would jump all over on it. 

As rmw said the value of machado vs Rickard isn't even comparable. The Orioles would give Machado as much time as it took if they had to, they'd never allow him to go in the rule 5. That'd be like the Ravens putting their top draft pick on the practice squad. Rickard is just another undrafted free agent in this situation.

[Steve0x]

Ravens have a bunch of good players on practice squad. Look at all the Injuries the Ravens had and these guys beat PITTSBURGH!

[Steve0x]

O's COMING BACK!!!!!

[Steve0x]

Can O's release Pedro Alvarez and bring up Christian Walker? Alvarez sucks!

[Tank 92]

Bats are on fiya!

[Cville-Raven]

Mychal givens is lights out. Glad he's in the pen.

[Steve0x]

Zach Britton: “[The Orioles] took away the individual approach to everything.”

Jake Arrieta‘s second career no-hitter, authored last Thursday, brought yet more scrutiny to the Orioles, the team with which Arrieta began his professional baseball career. The O’s selected him in the fifth round of the 2007 draft. He quickly garnered respect, as he was ranked among baseball’s top-100 overall prospects going into the 2009 and ’10 seasons by both Baseball America and Baseball Prospectus.

However, Arrieta never found success in Baltimore. He made 63 starts and six relief appearances for the Orioles in the big leagues, but mustered only a 5.46 ERA with a 277/159 K/BB ratio in 358 innings. On July 2, 2013, the Orioles traded him with reliever Pedro Strop to the Cubs in exchange for pitcher Scott Feldman and catcher Steve Clevenger. Boy, would the Orioles like to have that one back.

Arrieta, though, was one of a handful of heralded pitchers in the Orioles’ system. Chris Tillman, Brian Matusz, and Zack Britton were among the arms frequently rated among the organization’s top-10 in some order. Matusz transitioned to relief work in 2012 after struggling as a starter, where he’s had more success but hasn’t provided nearly as much value as the Orioles had hoped. Tillman has had a few solid years out of the rotation, but has mostly been inconsistent and owns a career 4.20 ERA. Britton went from failed starter to lights out reliever, with an aggregate 1.75 ERA in 149 1/3 innings since the start of the 2014 season.

http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/04/25/zach-britton-the-orioles-took-away-the-individual-approach-to-everything/

 

See I was right! ITS PETER ANGELOS!!! Like i said why don't our fans stop supporting them? Like Remember the Baltimore Colts fans during the late 70s to early 80s? When Bob Irsay took every good player out of Baltimore. Then the Colts fans stop supporting them. Like it came right after 1977 playoff game vs Raiders. And the Irsay got rid or Roger Carr,, Lydell Mitchell,,  Glenn Doughty,, Stan White, Lyle Blackwood and Bruce Laird. and the Bert Jones left in 1981. And then Colts left to Indianapolis. And Today we have a much better organization who came from Cleveland and they're called THE RAVENS! Lets face it The Ravens are a much better organization than that team in Indianapolis. All because it started with those Baltimore Colts fans who refused to not to spend not one penny watching them on Sunday afternoons. Look what the Ravens done here! They won more playoff games and won 2 super bowls in 20 years then Colts did in Indianapolis in 32 years there. Why cant those O's fans learn something from them. So what? LET THEM MOVE TO MONTREAL!! We're get a better team in Baltimore to play in that beautiful baseball stadium Camden Yards. Maybe we could get the Dodgers,Cubs or even the Royals move here. At least they're a better ball club than having Mr Angelos in Baltimore. If y'all don't believe me,,Just ask John Zimmerman down that Camden yards museum. He will tell you what the hell Bob Irsay did here if you're not old enough to remember those early 1980s. Rent the video called " the band that wouldn't die" that would give you an general idea what Bob Irsay did. And Mr Angelos is doing exact same thing that Mr Irsay did here during late 70s to early 80s.  

Edited April 26, 2016 by Steve0x

[OriolesMagicPlease]

Hitting has killed us the last two games. I hope they get back on track.

[Steve0x]

Orioles are much Improved,,But we don't see it vs Rays

 

 

Source 

http://www.camdenchat.com/2016/4/26/11497834/orioles-offense-discipline-chris-davis

Edited April 27, 2016 by Steve0x

[Steve0x]

YEE HAW!!!! Rickard CRUSHED IT! 

[Tank 92]

Nice! An Earl Weaver Special against his old club to break the 0 - 0 tie. 

[OriolesMagicPlease]

13 hours ago, Steve0x said:

YEE HAW!!!! Rickard CRUSHED IT! 

Yes, but he is just a bad rookie who shouldn't even be playing, right?

We still are having a tough time hitting, but what a nice win.