2016 Baltimore Orioles

[OriolesMagicPlease]

Exactly, and Ubaldo is the king of walks, so if they get on, they score. So...bring out the big bats tonight O's!

[OriolesMagicPlease]

1 hour ago, Steve0x said:

Yeah!!! Im going to the game tonight... Ubaldo better not ruin my night 

Have fun and no heckling our team!

[Cville-Raven]

lol dude you're being outpitched by Ubaldo Jimenez.

[Cville-Raven]

Ventura deserved a clean shot. Dude has always played with fire.

[52520Andrew]

Ventura's wiki page has been hit

Ah got corrected

Said his record was 0-1 RKO by Manny Machado

Edited June 8, 2016 by 52520Andrew

[Cville-Raven]

5 minutes ago, 52520Andrew said:

Ventura's wiki page has been hit

Ah got corrected

Said his record was 0-1 RKO by Manny Machado

Hahaha he got bodied

 

[cobrajet]

It looks like Manny tagged him pretty good. I don't blame him....Ventura definitely beamed him on purpose with that 99 mph pitch. It was his hardest throw all game. I would have wanted a piece of that punk if I was Manny. I hate the Royals!!!!!!!!!

http://deadspin.com/manny-machado-charges-the-mound-punches-yordano-ventur-1781175282

[Moderator 3]

8 hours ago, Steve0x said:

Yeah!!! Im going to the game tonight... Ubaldo better not ruin my night 

Looks like you got your money's worth.

[Cville-Raven]

23 minutes ago, cobrajet said:

It looks like Manny tagged him pretty good. I don't blame him....Ventura definitely beamed him on purpose with that 99 mph pitch. It was his hardest throw all game. I would have wanted a piece of that punk if I was Manny. I hate the Royals!!!!!!!!!

http://deadspin.com/manny-machado-charges-the-mound-punches-yordano-ventur-1781175282

He's such a scummy player, more deserving of that than even Bautista. This is the 4th brawl he's caused.

[Steve0x]

Best game i went to so far this year! Saw my boy Pena tonight

 

[Steve0x]

And if the commissioner gives manny a 3 -5 game suspension then he's a hypocrite. Remember the Jays Bautista got only one game.

 

 

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[BmoreBird22]

Did Ventura get ejected as well?

[OriolesMagicPlease]

10 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Did Ventura get ejected as well?

He did.

I asked for 10 home runs and I got four home runs, a fight and a win. I'll take it.

[rmcjacket23]

10 hours ago, Steve0x said:

And if the commissioner gives manny a 3 -5 game suspension then he's a hypocrite. Remember the Jays Bautista got only one game.

 

 

Bautista didn't throw any punches. Manny was the one throwing punches here. 3-5 games will be on the low end.

[rmcjacket23]

I mean lets be realistic here... Machado is pretty much a cocky [profanity deleted] all the time these days. Sort of debatable as to whether the pitches in the 2nd inning were meant to hit him or not, since Ventura had terrible control all night. 

Now once he gets drilled in the 5th, its obvious, and given their history, everyone knew it was coming.

That being said... when Machado hits what he thinks is a HR and turns out to be a routine can of corn to left and then starts jawing at Ventura afterwards, not exactly what you want out of your "leader". 

 

[OriolesMagicPlease]

I agree that Manny has a temper and is immature. However, to think that Ventura wasn't throwing at him in the 2nd inning is a bit naïve. Remember this goes back to 2014.

[cobrajet]

Nine runs.....I will take it and the win! Only negative is that I will hate to lose Manny for a few games. I hope it is no more than three games. I mean getting beaned with a 99 mph fastball, when it was obviously intentional, IMHO is reasonable mitigating circumstances for his actions. What man is not going to want to beat some butt after that? Andrew McCutchen is maybe the one exception, as he gets drilled more than most and never seems to get too upset. At least Manny followed proper baseball etiquette and dropped his bat in the box first   

Edited June 8, 2016 by cobrajet

[Cville-Raven]

1 hour ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Did Ventura get ejected as well?

Yeah, he threw a punch as well. Well, at least he tried to.

[Steve0x]

Orioles have a lot of history on temper type players. Eddie Murray was that type Rick Dempsey was that type. Doug DeCinces was that type.   

[rmcjacket23]

4 hours ago, OriolesMagicPlease said:

I agree that Manny has a temper and is immature. However, to think that Ventura wasn't throwing at him in the 2nd inning is a bit naïve. Remember this goes back to 2014.

I mean, he probably was, though its a bit confusing why you would throw at a guy twice, not hit him (he really wasn't that close to hitting him), and then serve up a hittable pitch after that?

I mean if he wanted to hit him, why not just hit him?

[52520Andrew]

3 hours ago, cobrajet said:

I mean getting beaned with a 99 mph fastball, when it was obviously intentional, IMHO is reasonable mitigating circumstances for his actions. What man is not going to want to beat some butt after that? Andrew McCutchen is maybe the one exception, as he gets drilled more than most and never seems to get too upset. At least Manny followed proper baseball etiquette and dropped his bat in the box first   

Yeah can't blame Manny for defending himself. Guys like Ventura are a great argument against the DH. Guy wouldn't act half as tough as he does if he had to stand there and take pitches at him. 

I would much rather see a player take issue with the player that hit him as opposed to waiting and then trying to take out the legs of the second baseman. You know who I am talking about.

[Steve0x]

Seems to me the plate umpire wasn't doing his job. Remember mannys first at bat and ventura pitched inside of him? Why didn't he give both benches a warning? He knew the History of Ventura and Manny. If Joe West was behind the plate i guarantee you two things when he pitched inside of manny. 1. He eject Ventura or two give both benches a warning.   

[rmcjacket23]

49 minutes ago, Steve0x said:

Seems to me the plate umpire wasn't doing his job. Remember mannys first at bat and ventura pitched inside of him? Why didn't he give both benches a warning? He knew the History of Ventura and Manny. If Joe West was behind the plate i guarantee you two things when he pitched inside of manny. 1. He eject Ventura or two give both benches a warning.   

1. He's not ejecting Ventura for not hitting him.

2. Bench warnings don't really accomplish much. All that it accomplishes is it prohibits the OTHER team from retaliating (or at least in theory it does). Even if the ump had warned Ventura, he's still plunking Machado in the 5th. He was struggling, his team was being beat badly, and he knows Manny is coming out to get him if he plunks him anyway, meaning he knows he's getting ejected.

A warning does nothing to stop Ventura from hitting Machado. If it were a close game (which is wasn't), all it does is prevent the Orioles from retaliating. In a blowout like this was, IF the Orioles wanted to retaliate, they'd send a crappy reliever out there in the 7th or 8th to plunk Lorenzo Cain or somebody like that, knowing that he'd get ejected.

[Steve0x]

2 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

1. He's not ejecting Ventura for not hitting him.

2. Bench warnings don't really accomplish much. All that it accomplishes is it prohibits the OTHER team from retaliating (or at least in theory it does). Even if the ump had warned Ventura, he's still plunking Machado in the 5th. He was struggling, his team was being beat badly, and he knows Manny is coming out to get him if he plunks him anyway, meaning he knows he's getting ejected.

A warning does nothing to stop Ventura from hitting Machado. If it were a close game (which is wasn't), all it does is prevent the Orioles from retaliating. In a blowout like this was, IF the Orioles wanted to retaliate, they'd send a crappy reliever out there in the 7th or 8th to plunk Lorenzo Cain or somebody like that, knowing that he'd get ejected.

Well if he gave him a warning and if you do it again you might get a higher suspension and manny might get 1 or 2 games. But ump let it go so I'm worry manny might get a 7-10 game suspension thats not fair when Bautista got only one game at Texas brawl

[cobrajet]

3 hours ago, 52520Andrew said:

Yeah can't blame Manny for defending himself. Guys like Ventura are a great argument against the DH. Guy wouldn't act half as tough as he does if he had to stand there and take pitches at him. 

I would much rather see a player take issue with the player that hit him as opposed to waiting and then trying to take out the legs of the second baseman. You know who I am talking about.

I agree, that is why it is a punk move. If I was hit intentionally with a 99 mph fastball, I am ripping the face off the guy if I can get to him fast enough!

[Tank 92]

I would be surprised and disappointed if anyone including Manny didn't go out to jack up Ventura. He deserved worse, what a punk.

[Steve0x]

[BmoreBird22]

9 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

I mean, he probably was, though its a bit confusing why you would throw at a guy twice, not hit him (he really wasn't that close to hitting him), and then serve up a hittable pitch after that?

I mean if he wanted to hit him, why not just hit him?

I don't know if this was Ventura's reason, but pitching inside is fairly common for pitchers who feel a batter is trying to narrow the strike zone and take away the inside corner of the plate by standing closer. It's a way for the pitcher to reclaim that by putting fear in the batter.

Doubt that's what Ventura was doing, but it is a very common tactic and in the case of doing it twice in a row, it's called a brushback pitch.

[rmcjacket23]

8 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I don't know if this was Ventura's reason, but pitching inside is fairly common for pitchers who feel a batter is trying to narrow the strike zone and take away the inside corner of the plate by standing closer. It's a way for the pitcher to reclaim that by putting fear in the batter.

Doubt that's what Ventura was doing, but it is a very common tactic and in the case of doing it twice in a row, it's called a brushback pitch.

Right, and in this case, its hard to do against Machado, since he's actually pretty far off the plate to begin with. 

[BmoreBird22]

5 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Right, and in this case, its hard to do against Machado, since he's actually pretty far off the plate to begin with. 

Like I said, I don't know what the reasoning was, but apparently they have bad blood, so to do it twice in a row, that's probably targeting.