2017 - on your radars

[Ravenskid52752]

4 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Sutton is a great athlete and I think is the higher upside guy while white is hands down the better cover man. He's very underrated imo.

The big 3 for Tennessee Barnett, Reeves-maybin and Sutton love them all

 Another player I like is Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio state the forgotten guy on that defense that made a lot of plays in coverage and side line to side line 6'2 240

[JoeyFlex5]

27 minutes ago, Ravenskid52752 said:

The big 3 for Tennessee Barnett, Reeves-maybin and Sutton love them all

 Another player I like is Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio state the forgotten guy on that defense that made a lot of plays in coverage and side line to side line 6'2 240

I don't like barnett at all tbh.

[Jacquouille]

13 hours ago, Ravenskid52752 said:

The big 3 for Tennessee Barnett, Reeves-maybin and Sutton love them all

 Another player I like is Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio state the forgotten guy on that defense that made a lot of plays in coverage and side line to side line 6'2 240

I didn't see his tape but I read McMillan was more of a run stopper. 

[ravefan52]

On June 16, 2016 at 7:49 AM, JoeyFlex5 said:

Ethan pocic. Center from lsu. One of my frontrunners for our first rounder, of course assuming were not in the top 12.

I've never specifically watched Pocic, but I would hate it if we took a center in the 1st. We just added a top 6 pick to the OL and I don't think centers are that valuable. Yeah the mental part is key to the whole offense, but they don't face great pass rushers and are pretty easy to find.

[JoeyFlex5]

2 hours ago, ravefan52 said:

I've never specifically watched Pocic, but I would hate it if we took a center in the 1st. We just added a top 6 pick to the OL and I don't think centers are that valuable. Yeah the mental part is key to the whole offense, but they don't face great pass rushers and are pretty easy to find.

Well.. I'll just strongly but respectfully disagree. Center is the 2nd most important position on the line after LT imo. we have 2 really good centers in the harbaugh era, Brown who was gone after one year, then we had a period of bad center play, then we got birk who was very good when healthy, and zuttah has been alright but likely isn't the long term answer. 

[ravensnj]

Ditka time: Trade the house for Christian McCaffery!

[ravensnj]

On 5/5/2016 at 9:19 PM, JoeyFlex5 said:

You'll get over it when He's average lol. 

Trent Richardson clone.

[JoeyFlex5]

On 6/21/2016 at 8:59 AM, ravensnj said:

Trent Richardson clone.

Henry is pretty far from Richardson.. Like there is no similarity between the 2

[harfordravenfan]

5 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Henry is pretty far from Richardson.. Like there is no similarity between the 2

They're both running backs 

But seriously, I agree with what you're saying 

Edited June 24, 2016 by harfordravenfan

[52520Andrew]

9 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Henry is pretty far from Richardson.. Like there is no similarity between the 2

They went to Alabama and won a National Championship

[Kinda_Dante]

12 minutes ago, 52520Andrew said:

They went to Alabama and won a National Championship

Their hair also looks kind of similar

[Edgar]

On 6/20/2016 at 8:49 AM, JoeyFlex5 said:

Well.. I'll just strongly but respectfully disagree. Center is the 2nd most important position on the line after LT imo. we have 2 really good centers in the harbaugh era, Brown who was gone after one year, then we had a period of bad center play, then we got birk who was very good when healthy, and zuttah has been alright but likely isn't the long term answer. 

Love for us to get a stud center. Haven't started watching guys and probably won't for awhile but it wouldn't bother me if we got a great center in the first round.

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, Edgar said:

Love for us to get a stud center. Haven't started watching guys and probably won't for awhile but it wouldn't bother me if we got a great center in the first round.

Pocic is an absolute stud. Perennial all pro type of center. 

If you're a yearly contender and are always picking in the mid-late part, then drafting guys like pocic is how you stay a yearly contender. Take a low value draft spot, and get an elite player at a devalued position of need. 

[Davesta]

What about speedy noil in the 2nd? We're going to need a WR when sss leaves. Perriman can't be trusted at this point. 

[Edgar]

22 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Pocic is an absolute stud. Perennial all pro type of center. 

If you're a yearly contender and are always picking in the mid-late part, then drafting guys like pocic is how you stay a yearly contender. Take a low value draft spot, and get an elite player at a devalued position of need. 

Thanks for the heads up. Guy appears to be pretty athletic for his size. A giant. Competitive.

Ill be curious to see him this year. Could be seriously dominant when he gets stronger. A real war with that Alabama front.

[Winchester]

I would of trade next yrs round1 and2 for a roumd2, 3 and for in this draft with a loaded round 3 and 4 with players with round1 traits. For an all time great draft this year. Why take chance in a losing season and waiting til 2017 to fill the needs when we could fill them all in this draft and compete for a championship next several years. Landing 10 above average to pro bowl starters in one draft is an all time great draft that could rival any draft ever

[rmw10]

4 hours ago, Winchester said:

I would of trade next yrs round1 and2 for a roumd2, 3 and for in this draft with a loaded round 3 and 4 with players with round1 traits. For an all time great draft this year. Why take chance in a losing season and waiting til 2017 to fill the needs when we could fill them all in this draft and compete for a championship next several years. Landing 10 above average to pro bowl starters in one draft is an all time great draft that could rival any draft ever

1.  Good luck actually hitting on every draft pick

2.  Even if you do somehow get extremely lucky, good luck paying all of those guys in 4 years.

[jdynamite]

On 3/31/2016 at 10:59 PM, JoeyFlex5 said:

May be early but next years class looks exciting, so why not? 

 

Assuming we have a solid year and end up in the 20s, a guy who is really strong on my radar is Jonathan allen, senior 5tech from Alabama. He can challenge and tackles and guards, strong eneough for the interior and very light on the feet with rapid shuffles and shows a basic understanding of hand usage making him a quality 5tech. I like him to play 5tech for us better than anybody in 2016, yes that includes buckner. Has good vision and plays very disruptive. Isn't too reliant on strength or athleticism and shows quality technique even though it could use some refining, appears very coachable. High floor and ceiling. If you haven't already, check out his film. 

 

Also, is travin dural returning for his senior year? I was real big on him and I'm tryna figure out where the hype went, haven't seen his name in months.

I like Travin Dural also, what happen to him is LSU's inability to produce semi-adequate QB play has lead to both Dural and Dupre not getting enough opportunities. 

[Jacquouille]

On 27/06/2016 at 5:26 AM, JoeyFlex5 said:

Pocic is an absolute stud. Perennial all pro type of center. 

If you're a yearly contender and are always picking in the mid-late part, then drafting guys like pocic is how you stay a yearly contender. Take a low value draft spot, and get an elite player at a devalued position of need. 

I was already interested in getting a C this year, so obviously I'm totally okay with getting one next year. Our OL would be crazy dominant.

That said, I have to ask, what do you judge when watching a C play? What differs between the bad and good centers? OL is really not my forte so I'm asking because next year I'm definitely watching some OL.

[JoeyFlex5]

20 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

I was already interested in getting a C this year, so obviously I'm totally okay with getting one next year. Our OL would be crazy dominant.

That said, I have to ask, what do you judge when watching a C play? What differs between the bad and good centers? OL is really not my forte so I'm asking because next year I'm definitely watching some OL.

Centers are tough to gauge because there's a lot of behind the scenes stuff with them, but looking past the obvious mauling and footwork blabla stuff, I look for their ability to adjust on the fly, if he is locked in on a 0tech and the 3tech breaks inside, how frequently and effectively will he slide to pick it up without losing his man? How well does he anticipate those kinds of things? How well does he pick up stunt blitzes that come out of nowhere? And in the run game when he reaches the 2nd level, is he just plowing guys down or is he effectively eliminating the closest threat to make the tackle? Some maulers get 5 yards downfield and hit a guy who's already being blocked instead of getting further downfield with vision and making a crease for your back. Its just little things And they tend to have a small sample size.

[Jacquouille]

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Centers are tough to gauge because there's a lot of behind the scenes stuff with them, but looking past the obvious mauling and footwork blabla stuff, I look for their ability to adjust on the fly, if he is locked in on a 0tech and the 3tech breaks inside, how frequently and effectively will he slide to pick it up without losing his man? How well does he anticipate those kinds of things? How well does he pick up stunt blitzes that come out of nowhere? And in the run game when he reaches the 2nd level, is he just plowing guys down or is he effectively eliminating the closest threat to make the tackle? Some maulers get 5 yards downfield and hit a guy who's already being blocked instead of getting further downfield with vision and making a crease for your back. Its just little things And they tend to have a small sample size.

Tough to see on tape! The only available game that I saw from Pocic was against Bama, which obviously isn't fair. I'll wait for some other tape. Also apparently Pat Elfein from OSU is a name to watch.

[JoeyFlex5]

50 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

Tough to see on tape! The only available game that I saw from Pocic was against Bama, which obviously isn't fair. I'll wait for some other tape. Also apparently Pat Elfein from OSU is a name to watch.

If you want an example.. I believe it was yanda on the top 100, it had a highlight where he was engaged, and a Blitzer closed in on his open shoulder and yanda actually turned and extended and walled off 2 guys by himself. 

 

Now that's a very extreme example from one of the best guards to ever play... But it's an example lol. If you see a center switching the guy he's blocking and giving aid to his guards without giving up a lane, that's a sure sign of a pro caliber center.

[Jacquouille]

57 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

If you want an example.. I believe it was yanda on the top 100, it had a highlight where he was engaged, and a Blitzer closed in on his open shoulder and yanda actually turned and extended and walled off 2 guys by himself. 

 

Now that's a very extreme example from one of the best guards to ever play... But it's an example lol. If you see a center switching the guy he's blocking and giving aid to his guards without giving up a lane, that's a sure sign of a pro caliber center.

Basically an OL getting double teamed and still letting no one pass?

Go home Gandalf you're useless.

[Mt. Crushmore]

On June 28, 2016 at 6:56 AM, rmw10 said:

1.  Good luck actually hitting on every draft pick

2.  Even if you do somehow get extremely lucky, good luck paying all of those guys in 4 years.

3. The players still haven't played their final year in college yet 

[Winchester]

On 6/28/2016 at 7:56 AM, rmw10 said:

1.  Good luck actually hitting on every draft pick

2.  Even if you do somehow get extremely lucky, good luck paying all of those guys in 4 years.

Thats a problem teams would prefer

[BmoreBird22]

2 hours ago, Winchester said:

Thats a problem teams would prefer

I'm sure the Ravens love figuring out how to pay the Pernell McPhee's and KO's of the world, and we sure as hell know you were thrilled to see KO go.

[JoeyFlex5]

7 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

Basically an OL getting double teamed and still letting no one pass?

Go home Gandalf you're useless.

Lol I think you missed the point and focused too much on the yanda example

[Winchester]

55 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I'm sure the Ravens love figuring out how to pay the Pernell McPhee's and KO's of the world, and we sure as hell know you were thrilled to see KO go.

So draft all average players so you can pay them?? KO walked cuz of bad contracts to injured and overrated players.

[Stevin]

2 hours ago, Winchester said:

KO walked cuz of bad contracts to injured and overrated players.

KO walked cuz of 58.5kk

[rmw10]

6 hours ago, Winchester said:

So draft all average players so you can pay them?? KO walked cuz of bad contracts to injured and overrated players.

And your plan of trading away a future 1st for more picks isn't going to lead to us drafting more average players?  Hmmm... I'm sure every single player we pick is a bonafide superstar.