2017 - on your radars

[allblackraven]

4 minutes ago, terps85 said:

What do you guys think of Marquis Haynes from Ole Miss? This class is loaded with edge players and I would love to see the Ravens take one in the 1st.  Has to be the biggest need in my opinion.

If we keep sucking this much, we should be able to do better than Haynes

[ravensnick]

21 minutes ago, terps85 said:

What do you guys think of Marquis Haynes from Ole Miss? This class is loaded with edge players and I would love to see the Ravens take one in the 1st.  Has to be the biggest need in my opinion.

Haynes would be in the conversation with Garrett, Barnett, and Lawson if he had more mass in his butt. He's just too light. First round talent, third round body type. I think he goes early second but ends up being an excellent player.

[JoeyFlex5]

at this point i have no clue... if were top 5 we still wont be getting garrett. if were in the 8-4 range i'd be ok giving something up to move up to the first team who wont select a qb to take garrett. he would be such a massive improvement for us. 

if thats not an option, give me jonathan allen. no more rotating 1 dimensional guys up front. as much as i like lawrence guy, he isnt a star, jonathan allen would actually rush the passer at a very high level, and then if tim williams gun charge hurts his stock maybe we pick high enough in the 2nd to land him, or maybe we dont want that at all after taking another undersized rusher in correa.  

hell, maybe garrett, allen, and fournette are all gone when we pick, and we trade back twice and then trade back in and end up with 2 firsts and 3 second round picks and every single one of them spend their entire careers on IR. maybe we sell the farm for garrett and he has a bridgewater knee injury the first day of TC and never plays. maybe steve sells the team and exiles himself out of shame! who the hell knows what the ravens may do at this point.

[allblackraven]

7 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

at this point i have no clue... if were top 5 we still wont be getting garrett. if were in the 8-4 range i'd be ok giving something up to move up to the first team who wont select a qb to take garrett. he would be such a massive improvement for us. 

if thats not an option, give me jonathan allen. no more rotating 1 dimensional guys up front. as much as i like lawrence guy, he isnt a star, jonathan allen would actually rush the passer at a very high level, and then if tim williams gun charge hurts his stock maybe we pick high enough in the 2nd to land him, or maybe we dont want that at all after taking another undersized rusher in correa.  

hell, maybe garrett, allen, and fournette are all gone when we pick, and we trade back twice and then trade back in and end up with 2 firsts and 3 second round picks and every single one of them spend their entire careers on IR. maybe we sell the farm for garrett and he has a bridgewater knee injury the first day of TC and never plays. maybe steve sells the team and exiles himself out of shame! who the hell knows what the ravens may do at this point.

I'm thinking Allen is going high, probably higher than L. Williams. He and Garrett might just be 1 and 2, since there doesn't seem to be QBs worth picking that high.

[hn68wb4]

1 minute ago, allblackraven said:

I'm thinking Allen is going high, probably higher than L. Williams. He and Garrett might just be 1 and 2, since there doesn't seem to be QBs worth picking that high.

I don't know, I think some team will reach on Kizer, I think that if the Browns aren't going QB then they'll trade back like last year. For them it makes all the sense in the world, Garrett would obviously be a game changer but they've got problems all over the roster and could afford to stockpile more picks on top of the ones they've got already - especially if Philly keeps winning and that first rounder that they gave the Browns keeps rising higher and higher. I just don't see a scenario in which the Browns take Garrett, I think they have to take Kizer or trade back and target one of the other QBs.

 

I agree, of course, that none of the QBs really are #1 overall caliber, maybe not even top 5 but we thought the same thing about last draft, there's just too many teams desperate for a QB that would be willing to reach - the fact that Wentz worked out better than anyone imagined only makes that more likely.

[hn68wb4]

What are your thoughts on Zay Jones WR from ECU, dude already has 95 catches on the year with 900 yards. I haven't watched any tape on him, just pointing out that crazy stat.

[Davesta]

Maybe we'll have a shot at Myles Garrett after all? 

[JoeyFlex5]

9 minutes ago, Davesta said:

Maybe we'll have a shot at Myles Garrett after all? 

Well be just out of range. You know how the ravens do things lol

[hn68wb4]

25 minutes ago, Davesta said:

Maybe we'll have a shot at Myles Garrett after all? 

The only way we'd have a chance is if we lose out which i don't see happening, and we're still 1 or 2 wins up on a few teams so we've probably lost our shot at him.

Edited October 24, 2016 by hn68wb4

[Jacquouille]

Does anyone have tape on TJ Watt?

[hn68wb4]

14 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

Does anyone have tape on TJ Watt?

I haven't been able to find much, if you just youtube his name you'll find a one and a half minute taste but that's about it. He's having a fantastic season, if he declares then I could see him going in the second, if not higher if he keeps up what he's doing.

[Jacquouille]

58 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:

I haven't been able to find much, if you just youtube his name you'll find a one and a half minute taste but that's about it. He's having a fantastic season, if he declares then I could see him going in the second, if not higher if he keeps up what he's doing.

Definitely a guy I want to monitor.

 

 

[ravensnation5220]

Had a long look at malik hooker recently. This kid has unvelievable range and ball skills. He has a nack for going up and getting the football as a center feilder and he can lay a hit as well. The only thing negative is he seems to be out of position at times to make plays. Happened a few times vs penn state but he always has those flashes of brilliance. Its hard to tell with him only having this year under his belt. He def needs more experience. He wont be nfl ready after thus year, theres no way hes just too raw. Another note on him is that football isnt his first love. Its basketball....he almost gave up on football too..wouldnt be able to tell by watching him play but that is something to watch out for

[RaineV1]

1 hour ago, hn68wb4 said:

I haven't been able to find much, if you just youtube his name you'll find a one and a half minute taste but that's about it. He's having a fantastic season, if he declares then I could see him going in the second, if not higher if he keeps up what he's doing.

If he adds a bit of muscle (going up to the 240s range) and has a good combine, he could definitely be a late first rounder. If the Ravens manage to turn their season around and pick late, he'd be a good guy to target. Or a trade down option to grab in the early 2nd.

[hn68wb4]

2 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Had a long look at malik hooker recently. This kid has unvelievable range and ball skills. He has a nack for going up and getting the football as a center feilder and he can lay a hit as well. The only thing negative is he seems to be out of position at times to make plays. Happened a few times vs penn state but he always has those flashes of brilliance. Its hard to tell with him only having this year under his belt. He def needs more experience. He wont be nfl ready after thus year, theres no way hes just too raw. Another note on him is that football isnt his first love. Its basketball....he almost gave up on football too..wouldnt be able to tell by watching him play but that is something to watch out for

Love his ball skills but dislike his ability vs. the run, he isn't the best open field tackler, and against Penn St. he got caught multiple times on the play action - a product of maybe not having the experience, but possibly not. He might be able to hit pretty good but he's not laying out anyone

From what I've watched of him he compares pretty well to Eddie Jackson from Bama, great range and ball skills but can't really be trusted against the run. He's pretty darn good but I think he'll go higher than he should. In my opinion if we're talking taking Hooker at say 10 or getting Jackson a round, maybe two after that injury, later, then I say go for Jackson. You get the same type of player with the added benefit of a great return specialist packaged in and I'd argue that he's a more willing tackler than Hooker - that isn't to say he's a better tackler but he's more willing to stick his nose in there and try to get the ball carrier down.

Edited October 25, 2016 by hn68wb4

[ravensnation5220]

15 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:

Love his ball skills but dislike his ability vs. the run, he isn't the best open field tackler, and against Penn St. he got caught multiple times on the play action - a product of maybe not having the experience, but possibly not. He might be able to hit pretty good but he's not laying out anyone

From what I've watched of him he compares pretty well to Eddie Jackson from Bama, great range and ball skills but can't really be trusted against the run. He's pretty darn good but I think he'll go higher than he should. In my opinion if we're talking taking Hooker at say 10 or getting Jackson a round, maybe two after that injury, later, then I say go for Jackson. You get the same type of player with the added benefit of a great return specialist packaged in and I'd argue that he's a more willing tackler than Hooker - that isn't to say he's a better tackler but he's more willing to stick his nose in there and try to get the ball carrier down.

Im looking the alabama defense. They probably have 5 guys who could possibly go in the top 15 in jonathan allen, tim williams, marlon humphries, reggie ragland, and eddie jackson(maybe not with his broken leg) we could use any one of those players in our defense with maybe the exception of ragland. 

[hn68wb4]

11 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Im looking the alabama defense. They probably have 5 guys who could possibly go in the top 15 in jonathan allen, tim williams, marlon humphries, reggie ragland, and eddie jackson(maybe not with his broken leg) we could use any one of those players in our defense with maybe the exception of ragland. 

Ragland isn't at Alabama, you're probably thinking of Reuben Foster, he was drafted last year. I'd be surprised if Reuben Foster or Jackson were going in the top 15, even fully healthy. From my read of the situation I think teams are higher on a couple other safeties in Hooker and Adams from LSU, of course that's subject to change leading up to the draft but just talking about right now, and now with the injury I'm sure Maye will go over him too. As far as Foster goes, I just don't think any team wants to take an ILB in the top 15 unless they're a complete game changer and I'm not so sure Foster is, he's good and deserves to go in the first but I don't see him as being on the level as the past LBs that went top 15.

 

I'd love to add Allen or Humphries if we're picking top 15, Williams is more of a borderline top 15 guy for me, great pass rusher but he's not good against the run at all.

Edited October 25, 2016 by hn68wb4

[allblackraven]

12 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Im looking the alabama defense. They probably have 5 guys who could possibly go in the top 15 in jonathan allen, tim williams, marlon humphries, reggie ragland, and eddie jackson(maybe not with his broken leg) we could use any one of those players in our defense with maybe the exception of ragland. 

Allen definitely should be top 5 pick. 

Williams may find himself picked very high if he finishes season well.

I'm not sure others you mention are top 15 worthy picks (maybe Humphries if somebody falls in love with him like Giants did with Apple)

Jackson's injury isn't going to affect his draft stock. Just watched Saban's interview and he confirmed there is nothing nasty with that fracture. 

 

[ravensnation5220]

2 hours ago, hn68wb4 said:

Ragland isn't at Alabama, you're probably thinking of Reuben Foster, he was drafted last year. I'd be surprised if Reuben Foster or Jackson were going in the top 15, even fully healthy. From my read of the situation I think teams are higher on a couple other safeties in Hooker and Adams from LSU, of course that's subject to change leading up to the draft but just talking about right now, and now with the injury I'm sure Maye will go over him too. As far as Foster goes, I just don't think any team wants to take an ILB in the top 15 unless they're a complete game changer and I'm not so sure Foster is, he's good and deserves to go in the first but I don't see him as being on the level as the past LBs that went top 15.

 

I'd love to add Allen or Humphries if we're picking top 15, Williams is more of a borderline top 15 guy for me, great pass rusher but he's not good against the run at all.

Lol idk why i said ragland ? i meant foster

[BmoreBird22]

2 hours ago, hn68wb4 said:

Ragland isn't at Alabama, you're probably thinking of Reuben Foster, he was drafted last year. I'd be surprised if Reuben Foster or Jackson were going in the top 15, even fully healthy. From my read of the situation I think teams are higher on a couple other safeties in Hooker and Adams from LSU, of course that's subject to change leading up to the draft but just talking about right now, and now with the injury I'm sure Maye will go over him too. As far as Foster goes, I just don't think any team wants to take an ILB in the top 15 unless they're a complete game changer and I'm not so sure Foster is, he's good and deserves to go in the first but I don't see him as being on the level as the past LBs that went top 15.

 

I'd love to add Allen or Humphries if we're picking top 15, Williams is more of a borderline top 15 guy for me, great pass rusher but he's not good against the run at all.

A lot of analytic sites and scouts seem to be in love with Foster. Just never seems to miss a tackle, ever. 

I think he goes top 15.

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

D'Onta Foreman. 

[BmoreBird22]

—A name moving up my board is Colorado cornerback Chidobe Awuzie. To get background info on Awuzie, I asked an area scout for height, weight and speed notes he might have. Instead I got four paragraphs on Awuzie's strengths (quickness, transfer ability, instincts). Said the scout: "The kid is so clean in his backpedal and transitions. He's a f--kin' treat to watch."

Some of you all have been hyping him up around here. Looks like he's starting to get national attention, too.

[BmoreBird22]

Also, in case anyone is curious, here's Matt Miller's current top 32. 

Surprise of the list is Reuben Fostber being the third ranked player above Jonathan Allen.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2670799-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-dont-ditch-deshone-kizer-names-to-know

[ravensnick]

40 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Also, in case anyone is curious, here's Matt Miller's current top 32. 

Surprise of the list is Reuben Fostber being the third ranked player above Jonathan Allen.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2670799-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-dont-ditch-deshone-kizer-names-to-know

Watching Reuben Foster play, that's not surprising at all. He is a freak. Best ILB I've seen in years.

Edited October 25, 2016 by ravensnick

[BmoreBird22]

6 minutes ago, ravensnick said:

Watching Reuben Foster play, that's not surprising at all. He is a freak. Best ILB I've seen in years.

Someone above said he wouldn't be a top 15 pick.

Foster is an insanely good linebacker.

[Jacquouille]

55 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

—A name moving up my board is Colorado cornerback Chidobe Awuzie. To get background info on Awuzie, I asked an area scout for height, weight and speed notes he might have. Instead I got four paragraphs on Awuzie's strengths (quickness, transfer ability, instincts). Said the scout: "The kid is so clean in his backpedal and transitions. He's a f--kin' treat to watch."

Some of you all have been hyping him up around here. Looks like he's starting to get national attention, too.

Wonder where he's seen Awuzie backpedal lol, he seems to only play zone (jk but yeah they really are zone heavy in that secondary).

 

Also, Foster has to be the best LB prospect to come out since perhaps Kuechly or Patrick Willis. When you have a Bama thumper that can also cover well, you know he's really good.

Edited October 25, 2016 by Jacquouille

[allblackraven]

36 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Someone above said he wouldn't be a top 15 pick.

Foster is an insanely good linebacker.

I was replying to post that didn't include Foster's name. Definitely in my top 10.

[ravensnation5220]

11 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

I was replying to post that didn't include Foster's name. Definitely in my top 10.

Ya i said ragland ? i meant foster

[allblackraven]

53 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Ya i said ragland ? i meant foster

I should have paid more attention

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

4 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

—A name moving up my board is Colorado cornerback Chidobe Awuzie. To get background info on Awuzie, I asked an area scout for height, weight and speed notes he might have. Instead I got four paragraphs on Awuzie's strengths (quickness, transfer ability, instincts). Said the scout: "The kid is so clean in his backpedal and transitions. He's a f--kin' treat to watch."

Some of you all have been hyping him up around here. Looks like he's starting to get national attention, too.

 

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C.O. C.O.L.O.R.A.D COLORAD COLORAD COLORADO(is surprisingly good this year). But he's their only NFL eligible guy I can see right now. 

I saw that on Matt Miller's report. Am proud of the guy. I think he'd be a great fit here, just by the way he plays. He's excellent in zone coverage and some good ball skills. Blows up screens. He needs to put on a bit of weight, but I could see him going as high as the second round. Haven't seen too much of him in man(Colorado doesn't run a ton of that anymore weirdly enough since Jimmy was strictly a press guy coming out of there), but I think he could be a very good player

Edited October 25, 2016 by LosT_in_TranSlatioN