2017 - on your radars

[Ravenskid52752]

2 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

tim williams looks like this years leonard floyd, who i was really high on and i still think hes gonna be a very good pro. this guy can flat out fly to the ball, no matter whos carrying it. i see overall linebacker ability comparable to jaylon smith and edge rush ability on par with vic beasley(at the college level, beasleys effectiveness in the nfl is yet to be seen) and he had a massive first game, i think hes gonna play himself into top 10 this year. 

and #46 from texas, who the hell is this kid, he was unstoppable against ND, i couldnt even tell what position he played, he was blitzing, covering, edge rushing, doing it all like he played those roles full time. 

also i watched adoree jackson vs bama, im liking what im seeing, hes a freak athlete for sure and his coverage is sound, he doesnt get heavy on his feet, turns the hips well, seems to always be in range to make a play because of his athleticism, long for his height, and just the eye test says he plays with ridiculous explosiveness, you can just see how quickly he can crank up to full speed and change directions at ease and turn to leap for the ball in coverage. he could quickly bypass tredavious white as my favorite corner in this draft.

 

That's kid from Texas is Malik Jefferson Sophomore they call him predator and he plays like one lol. Get to know this guy right here Dawaune  Smoot  DE/OLB Illinois he can get to the QB long arms and fast around the corner  he's getting first round buzz.

[allblackraven]

3 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

tim williams looks like this years leonard floyd, who i was really high on and i still think hes gonna be a very good pro. this guy can flat out fly to the ball, no matter whos carrying it. i see overall linebacker ability comparable to jaylon smith and edge rush ability on par with vic beasley(at the college level, beasleys effectiveness in the nfl is yet to be seen) and he had a massive first game, i think hes gonna play himself into top 10 this year. 

Williams wasn't as impressive as Anderson. #22 is the real deal - if you can, try to watch him.

[JoeyFlex5]

14 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

Williams wasn't as impressive as Anderson. #22 is the real deal - if you can, try to watch him.

edge rusher for bama??

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, Ravenskid52752 said:

That's kid from Texas is Malik Jefferson Sophomore they call him predator and he plays like one lol. Get to know this guy right here Dawaune  Smoot  DE/OLB Illinois he can get to the QB long arms and fast around the corner  he's getting first round buzz.

ill check him out. if malik jefferson is a 2nd rounder i would take him in a heartbeat, that kid plays ball plain and simple.

[allblackraven]

1 minute ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

edge rusher for bama??

Yes but not just a pass rusher. Sets the edge, good in coverage, extra good run defender and nasty pass rusher. He was excellent last year as well. What little snaps he got, he used to the max - if you look at stats, you'd think he was getting half the snaps every game but it was far less than that.

[JoeyFlex5]

4 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

Yes but not just a pass rusher. Sets the edge, good in coverage, extra good run defender and nasty pass rusher. He was excellent last year as well. What little snaps he got, he used to the max - if you look at stats, you'd think he was getting half the snaps every game but it was far less than that.

first time hearing of him. ive depended on draftbreakdown.com for the past year and a half because i dont have time to watch college lol. ill check him out

[JoeyFlex5]

need opinions.. is OJ howard a first round talent? if so, is he a capable WR or is he purely a TE? because one thing we dont have, and never have had on this team, is a true height/weight/speed guy at WR, at 6'5" 250+ and likely 4.5ish speed, along with good body control to use his wingspan and surprising agility for a man his size. maybe a reckless idea, but im really seriously intrigued by the thought of it, joe flacco with a 6'5" wingspan freak who can get downfield in a hurry and outjump any cb he faces, along with perriman and wallace taking the top off, and a good rb and te group to take advantage of the bare-naked underneath that will result from all this deep threat... it would be fun to watch, a guy like that would make our offense possibly the most dangerous in the league, especially with joe now having time to throw. of course everything would have to pan out, but man would that be a blast to watch on sundays.

[allblackraven]

6 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

need opinions.. is OJ howard a first round talent? if so, is he a capable WR or is he purely a TE? because one thing we dont have, and never have had on this team, is a true height/weight/speed guy at WR, at 6'5" 250+ and likely 4.5ish speed, along with good body control to use his wingspan and surprising agility for a man his size. maybe a reckless idea, but im really seriously intrigued by the thought of it, joe flacco with a 6'5" wingspan freak who can get downfield in a hurry and outjump any cb he faces, along with perriman and wallace taking the top off, and a good rb and te group to take advantage of the bare-naked underneath that will result from all this deep threat... it would be fun to watch, a guy like that would make our offense possibly the most dangerous in the league, especially with joe now having time to throw. of course everything would have to pan out, but man would that be a blast to watch on sundays.

I find Howard overrated and definitely don't see him anywhere near 1st round.

[Ravenskid52752]

4 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

need opinions.. is OJ howard a first round talent? if so, is he a capable WR or is he purely a TE? because one thing we dont have, and never have had on this team, is a true height/weight/speed guy at WR, at 6'5" 250+ and likely 4.5ish speed, along with good body control to use his wingspan and surprising agility for a man his size. maybe a reckless idea, but im really seriously intrigued by the thought of it, joe flacco with a 6'5" wingspan freak who can get downfield in a hurry and outjump any cb he faces, along with perriman and wallace taking the top off, and a good rb and te group to take advantage of the bare-naked underneath that will result from all this deep threat... it would be fun to watch, a guy like that would make our offense possibly the most dangerous in the league, especially with joe now having time to throw. of course everything would have to pan out, but man would that be a blast to watch on sundays.

I like him but I also like Jake BUTT too from Michigan compete TE. This Draft is great if you need EDGE players, Secondary and DL very weak WR class out side of like 9 guys also Horrible OL Class as well Only Cam Robinson is a First rounder for me everybody else  is like meh but Guard/Center class is good tho 

[Jacquouille]

On 8/9/2016 at 2:10 PM, JoeyFlex5 said:

If we pick in the late first, possible trade backs targets are Tim Williams and davon godchaux.

You won't get Williams this late. I say he'll be gone by pick 20. Dude is a real freak.

Godchaux is meh in my eyes. Good burst but horrible leverage and non existent hand work... Looks like a poor man's Nkemdiche. 

[JoeyFlex5]

4 hours ago, Ravenskid52752 said:

I like him but I also like Jake BUTT too from Michigan compete TE. This Draft is great if you need EDGE players, Secondary and DL very weak WR class out side of like 9 guys also Horrible OL Class as well Only Cam Robinson is a First rounder for me everybody else  is like meh but Guard/Center class is good tho 

Guard center is OL too lol. you mean the OT class is weak? Because Ethan pocic looks to me like the best center prospect since the pounceys and the most versatile linemen prospect I've ever seen.

[PurpleCity5]

I feel like guard is a position that we're very willing to take if we're not in the top ten. I have a feeling that we may go in that direction.

[Jacquouille]

11 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

need opinions.. is OJ howard a first round talent? if so, is he a capable WR or is he purely a TE? because one thing we dont have, and never have had on this team, is a true height/weight/speed guy at WR, at 6'5" 250+ and likely 4.5ish speed, along with good body control to use his wingspan and surprising agility for a man his size. maybe a reckless idea, but im really seriously intrigued by the thought of it, joe flacco with a 6'5" wingspan freak who can get downfield in a hurry and outjump any cb he faces, along with perriman and wallace taking the top off, and a good rb and te group to take advantage of the bare-naked underneath that will result from all this deep threat... it would be fun to watch, a guy like that would make our offense possibly the most dangerous in the league, especially with joe now having time to throw. of course everything would have to pan out, but man would that be a blast to watch on sundays.

Yeah Howard could be that guy. Although, there's a lot of prospects I'd take before him based on bigger needs and equal value. 

Also, you should check Evan Engram. He's 6'3 but hechecks all the boxes you've listed. Ricky Seals-Jones as a 6'5 WR as well.

[Ravenskid52752]

2 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Guard center is OL too lol. you mean the OT class is weak? Because Ethan pocic looks to me like the best center prospect since the pounceys and the most versatile linemen prospect I've ever seen.

Yeah my bad I meant OT lol I was typing from my phone. Really like Ethan Pocic and Pat Eflein from Ohio state also watch out for Dan Feenay from Indiana he could be the next marshal yanda or Zach Martin 

Edited September 10, 2016 by Ravenskid52752

[BmoreBird22]

14 hours ago, Ravenskid52752 said:

That's kid from Texas is Malik Jefferson Sophomore they call him predator and he plays like one lol. Get to know this guy right here Dawaune  Smoot  DE/OLB Illinois he can get to the QB long arms and fast around the corner  he's getting first round buzz.

Matt Miller has Smoot in this top 15

[BmoreBird22]

13 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

need opinions.. is OJ howard a first round talent? if so, is he a capable WR or is he purely a TE? because one thing we dont have, and never have had on this team, is a true height/weight/speed guy at WR, at 6'5" 250+ and likely 4.5ish speed, along with good body control to use his wingspan and surprising agility for a man his size. maybe a reckless idea, but im really seriously intrigued by the thought of it, joe flacco with a 6'5" wingspan freak who can get downfield in a hurry and outjump any cb he faces, along with perriman and wallace taking the top off, and a good rb and te group to take advantage of the bare-naked underneath that will result from all this deep threat... it would be fun to watch, a guy like that would make our offense possibly the most dangerous in the league, especially with joe now having time to throw. of course everything would have to pan out, but man would that be a blast to watch on sundays.

Matt Miller also has Howard in his top 15. 

Doesn't Alabama usually flex him out? He's fast as hell for a tight end. 

I don't know why he couldn't go out as a receiver. Bucky Hodges is for VT (if you're looking for a freak, he's probably just as fast, but he's 6'7" with basketball skills).

[BmoreBird22]

Really upset Tech didn't go for it on fourth, but loving the touchdown 

[JoeyFlex5]

4 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

Yeah Howard could be that guy. Although, there's a lot of prospects I'd take before him based on bigger needs and equal value. 

Also, you should check Evan Engram. He's 6'3 but hechecks all the boxes you've listed. Ricky Seals-Jones as a 6'5 WR as well.

yeah i like seals-jones as a 3rd rounder, he reminds me a lot of funchess, huge guy, can catch some tough balls, lacks straight line speed but has quickness like a smaller guy. im not sure where a guy like that fits in this offense though, i think were better off going for real speed rather than quickness, it just fits our philosophy.

 

2 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Matt Miller also has Howard in his top 15. 

Doesn't Alabama usually flex him out? He's fast as hell for a tight end. 

I don't know why he couldn't go out as a receiver. Bucky Hodges is for VT (if you're looking for a freak, he's probably just as fast, but he's 6'7" with basketball skills).

ill have to check him out. i dont usually get on the wingspan freak prospect bandwagon but im in the mood to watch some big receivers and imagine them on our offense lol

[BmoreBird22]

6 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

ill have to check him out. i dont usually get on the wingspan freak prospect bandwagon but im in the mood to watch some big receivers and imagine them on our offense lol

Bucky Hodges is one I'm super hyped about. He's basically a Jimmy Graham mold.

[Jacquouille]

7 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

yeah i like seals-jones as a 3rd rounder, he reminds me a lot of funchess, huge guy, can catch some tough balls, lacks straight line speed but has quickness like a smaller guy. im not sure where a guy like that fits in this offense though, i think were better off going for real speed rather than quickness, it just fits our philosophy.

TBH I never watched Seals-Jones, I just read stuff about him that were reminiscent of what you wrote, so his name just popped.

[Jacquouille]

Man, watching some RB tape, I'm taking Shock Linwood or Wayne Gallman anyday of the week in the 3rd round.

[Ravenskid52752]

38 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

Man, watching some RB tape, I'm taking Shock Linwood or Wayne Gallman anyday of the week in the 3rd round.

This RB class is Insane with all types of talent and different backs. You can get one in about every round. 

[Jacquouille]

17 minutes ago, Ravenskid52752 said:

This RB class is Insane with all types of talent and different backs. You can get one in about every round. 

Yeah, everyone keeps saying this but everytime you go back to take a look at it you still can't believe it.

[RaineV1]

After that Bills game, I'd be completely fine with using a first on the top center of the class.

[Jacquouille]

1 hour ago, RaineV1 said:

After that Bills game, I'd be completely fine with using a first on the top center of the class.

Same here

[Jacquouille]

Need list:

C (Pocic basically)

S (good class, solid depth)

A dominant DE. Unfortunately we'd have to pick early to get one in this class. Walker perhaps. 

[Ravenskid52752]

2 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

Need list:

C (Pocic basically)

S (good class, solid depth)

A dominant DE. Unfortunately we'd have to pick early to get one in this class. Walker perhaps. 

Yup probably  returner on there too and WR I know ppl gonna say WR? yes With Steve and Kamar contracts up that's 2 of your top four guys out have to replace one of them 

Edited September 13, 2016 by Ravenskid52752

[GrimCoconut]

3 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

Need list:

C (Pocic basically)

S (good class, solid depth)

A dominant DE. Unfortunately we'd have to pick early to get one in this class. Walker perhaps. 

Center, pass rusher, possibly DL, maybe safety are my top needs. CB is a need but it's a small one right now but we'll see how the season goes and shift that to the left or right accordingly 

[Jacquouille]

14 hours ago, Ravenskid52752 said:

Yup probably  returner on there too and WR I know ppl gonna say WR? yes With Steve and Kamar contracts up that's 2 of your top four guys out have to replace one of them 

Yeah true we do need a WR, but we'll be able to get one in the later rounds I think. Maybe KD Cannon can be that and a good returner. I'm very high on him, a few drops aside.

 

Also @GrimCoconut, I do want à tall outside corner. I've been a Shareece fan since day one of offseason, but the Carolina game made me realize his height is a problem. I'd like Sutton or Jones, maybe Humphrey.

[RaineV1]

On 9/13/2016 at 10:09 AM, Jacquouille said:

Need list:

C (Pocic basically)

S (good class, solid depth)

A dominant DE. Unfortunately we'd have to pick early to get one in this class. Walker perhaps. 

I'd add guard to that list. Lewis is alright, but not a great run blocking, and Yanda isn't getting any younger.