[News] Late For Work 3/30: Trent Richardson's Big Goals With Ravens

[757RavensFan]

3 minutes ago, riseNConquer81 said:

Wondering if he's stayed in shape this offseason because he has an injury that hinders his ability to do so is completely different from calling him a slacker.

Everybody is editing the issue on the fly here. 
Are there a lot of reasons Suggs might not be in form and might not BE ABLE to be in form? sure. and they are mostly outside of his control. 

757 was questioning his work ethic, and no one has provided any legit reason why doing so is justifiable. 

 

8 minutes ago, riseNConquer81 said:

dude, i gave you your precious cookie on your irrelevant tangential argument about 7 years ago, several comments ago. keep up. 
(See Fish Called Yanda, this is the problem. I'm generally so sound and accurate about just about everything i say around here, some of these people view proving me wrong as a trophy and will start any dumb little argument to get a crack at doing so.)

weight fluctuates and its hard to keep in a specific range as you get older. Showing up at camp a little over your ideal weight doesnt mean you're a slacker. 
And suggs is an outside linebacker, not a receiver or running back. his weight isnt even really an issue unless its affecting his conditioning. 

But to summarize: 
You think you have room to question Suggs' work ethic and the evidence/justification you cite for that is that once upon a time seven years ago, Suggs had a bad season. 

cool. got it. that sounds totally rational. 

So you're just going to keep referencing 7 years ago when myself and others have repeatedly mentioned that Suggs came in over weight LAST OFF-SEASON when he was completely healthy??  He said it for himself and you don't see why someone would question his work ethic or motivation coming into this season?

Never mind, you said it yourself, you're "so sound and accurate about everything around here", so you're ALWAYS right even when proven wrong!!     

[riseNConquer81]

39 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

 

So you're just going to keep referencing 7 years ago when myself and others have repeatedly mentioned that Suggs came in over weight LAST OFF-SEASON when he was completely healthy??  He said it for himself and you don't see why someone would question his work ethic or motivation coming into this season?

Never mind, you said it yourself, you're "so sound and accurate about everything around here", so you're ALWAYS right even when proven wrong!!     

yeah, cuz 7 years ago is all you got. 
Suggs didnt play last year, he got taken out in week 1, so whatever he did or didnt do last offseason is irrelevant, unless you're trying to blame his injury on his offseason program which i think you already know is a nonsense reach. You cant make the argument that Suggs slacking last offseason affected his play because he didnt play.
not to mention, as i already said, being a little overweight at the start of training camp doesnt really mean anything. Define "over weight." 5 pounds? 10? anybody can easily gain AND drop that in a matter of days or a few weeks.  once again, thats you blowing something trivial out of proportion. Every other year minus 2009, he fixed it, and put up double digit sacks. Where's your evidence that (assuming he didnt get hurt week one) we shouldve expected that to change last year? 
oh yeah: you have none. 
 

 

p.s.: noticed how you decidded not to highlight my quote about my sound reasoining in red as well, opting instead to rewrite it to pretend i think im always right. nice touch. thats not petty at all.

Edited March 30, 2016 by riseNConquer81

[JimmyBlack]

I'll give him a clean slate when he puts on the purple, black, and white.

[Rich McG]

Yellow jacket? Who was that idiot Cinncy receiver that wore the yellow jacket with H O F on the back against the Ravens? Hahaha,,,never heard from him since. Richardson, my man, you "big time" have the cart before the horse.

[Purple Dawg 96]

No worries Mon in regards to the run game in Bmore! Trent could be a dangerous weapon with the Ravens! Forsett, Juice, Allen, West, Richardson? ! Smh = Running from the plug!

[jravens1313]

6 hours ago, 757RavensFan said:

Like he took care of business last off-season when he admittingly showed up not at his "fighting weight" and that was when he was healthy.

This was my initial post on this thread and I stand by it.

"As much as I love Suggs, I'm not convinced he has the internal fire to be dominant again as he was 2 years ago. Just last off-season he talked about retirement, how losing Ngata affected him and we know he's dealing w/ personal issues.  I hope he has it in him to give us one more great year."  

 

I'll let you to continue to argue.  Especially after you asked me to prove you wrong which I did but of course you won't admit that.  

I'm done!  Peace!

 

So after all these years and amazing seasons Suggs has put together, he tears his achilles for a 2nd time on a hot summer day in Denver (high altitude) where the defense was on the field for an absurd number of snaps and you want to question his work ethic? And his preparation for 2015? Do you think Suggs magically wakes up at 30 or 31 years old and just still has a freakish physique, motor, maintains his technique? That he reacts to plays accurately and quickly because he can see into the future? How are you going to question a All Pro, DPOY, complete 3-4 OLB, and future HOF? He is better than everyone because he outworks them.  He knows what needs to be done and all he cares about is Lombardy's. He is more competitive than anyone on this Defense. If you haven't gathered that information from his 14 year career you have missed out on greatness. 

PS: There was no news of Suggs failing a conditioning test at camp, unlike Webb in 2015. 

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Trimmer-Terrell-Suggs-Now-At-%E2%80%98Fighting-Weight%E2%80%99/4aad6880-63b3-494b-b4b1-4e16d2bb3457

Check out that article too.

Edited March 31, 2016 by jravens1313

[ItsDaJakeness]

As much as Hargreaves looks good, I would rather the Ravens trade down and aquire William Jackson III. He has ALL of the measurables that Jalen Ramsey has, he ran a sub 4.4 at the combine as well as demonstrating fluid motion in drills. He also had more takeaways than Ramsey. I'd be dissappointed if we missed on him.

[Maryland]

I'm particularly high on VH3, so I would love the pick, even at 6. However, if we could trade down to 8, allowing the Eagles to jump the 49ers for Goff, then I would absolutely do that trade, considering you could pick up an asset while still probably getting VH3.

[J.O.14]

I know l'm dreaming about this and is a very unlikely scenario but what if there a chance Ramsey fall to the Ravens. I just look on NFL.com and l read an article that the Chargers like interested in Myles Jack but l heard they like Buckner as well. Now if they draft Jack at number 3 overall that leaves Cowboys and Jaguars to take Ramsey (which is very likely) but if they take Buckner and the Cowboys take Myles Jack (which they like as well) that only leaves the Jaguars and Ravens to take Ramsey. That's close the Ravens can get to Ramsey and l hope not that the strengh of the schedule that what the Jaguars have (to overleap the Ravens a draft spot) is the only reason that the Ravens can't get Ramsey. I still like Myles Jack, and Bosa though. Ramsey: the best player in the Draft, Myles Jack: need and best player available, and Bosa: best player available will all be great picks. But like l said, if the draft goes like this Pick 1: Tunsil, Pick 2: Wenz, Pick 3: Buckner, Pick 4: Jack, Pick 5: Ramsey that's gonna hurt big time. ?

We will still land Bosa...which I will be pretty happy about. The scenario you mentioned would actually work out in our favor, because we are getting one of the best defensive players in the draft, at a position of need.

The worst case scenario would be the Titans going defense, Browns not taking a QB, and 3-5 going defense. That would hurt big time, but at least we would still get the best LT in the draft. Either way, we are going to get a very good player somewhere on our team. If you want one of the defensive guys, you better hope Titans go Tunsil, Browns go QB, and maybe a trade up for another QB. Hopefully the Cowboys fall in love with Ezekiel Elliot.

[billiejean]

As much as Hargreaves looks good, I would rather the Ravens trade down and aquire William Jackson III. He has ALL of the measurables that Jalen Ramsey has, he ran a sub 4.4 at the combine as well as demonstrating fluid motion in drills. He also had more takeaways than Ramsey. I'd be dissappointed if we missed on him.

do you think he will be gone by the time we pick in the second?

[usmccharles]

36 minutes ago, billiejean said:

do you think he will be gone by the time we pick in the second?

Jackson will be a first round imo