[News] Late For Work 3/30: Trent Richardson's Big Goals With Ravens

[TheConquerorWorm]

Richardson? There is a reason why an overall number 3 draft pick plays for 3 teams in 4 years and was cut by the Raiders. Unless the Ravens have figured it out and it is addressable, they are wasting their time and money on this guy. Talk is cheap. Whatever Harbaugh said to him he has heard before and not put up where his mouth is. It is only worth the chance if it costs the Ravens nothing. The first sign of slippage or lack of effort should get him a one way bus ticket out of here. He has had enough chances.

I think this article addresses why he was cut by those teams. No different than Terrence West (3 teams in 2 years). Both have NFL talent, both were lazy, out of shape and didn't take the league seriously. And I assume both are on very short leashes. It doesn't cost the Ravens a thing and who knows, maybe like Rolando McClain, we get a draft pick out of the deal, or better yet, the new improved better version of TRich.

[TheConquerorWorm]

Ravens,

Can we please get an O.J. Brigance statue at M&T?

Inspiration to us all.....

[riseNConquer81]

26 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

I clearly stated I didn't remember the year but I remember it wasn't a good one.  Pat yourself on the back for knowing it was 2009.  I SERIOUSLY doubt you knew that Suggs had less than double digit sacks in 2009 w/out hitting up Google first. But hey if you want me to believe that, so be it.

 It's funny you state that Suggs could have easily gotten 3 sacks in the last 3 games and then in your last sentence try to state I'm presenting a presumption as a fact.  Kinda of ironic, wouldn't you say? Saying Suggs could have easily got 3 sacks in the games he missed is like saying Flacco could have thrown for 400 yards and went 6-0 in the games he missed.  It's nothing more than wishful thinking and shouldn't even be used in an discussion.

You didnt remember the year, because the year didnt exist. 
You just latched on 2009 after i mentioned because it was the nearest thing that made you sound like you made sense. 
Problem with that though is that you cant find the story stating that Suggs was overweight in 2009. Because it doesnt exist. 
In 2009 the stories were:
Kelly Gregg is old.
Foxworth's knees are disintegrating.
Frank Walker sucks.
Chris Carr isnt worth that much money.
hopefully our defense doesnt suck now that Rex is gone. 
we still need more pass rushers, cuz Kruger is not it. 
Suggs had a domestic violence thing that year. 
nothing about him being overweight. 
feel free to prove me wrong. 

 i seriously hope you dont expect me to apologize for doing homework before i speak about something. I wont. informed commentary is really the only way to go, especially since Google is SOO easy to use. Dont be mad at me for choosing to know what im talking about before i speak. 

and no thats not ironic at all. I presented a possibility as a possibility. 
Saying "Suggs COULD HAVE gotten 3 sacks in one of those games" is not the same as saying 'Suggs IS bad because we never got to see what he could produce in the part of the season he missed." 
see the difference?
Besides, what is your point even supposed to be with that whole train of thought? the only thing you're really doing there is further invalidating your own argument.
 

Edited March 30, 2016 by riseNConquer81

[hn68wb4]

Running back competition should be tough this year - Forsett, Buck, West, Taliaferro, and Richardson could make things interesting. Lots of young talent.

[metalraven]

If this dude is that pumped, then that's great. The key is STAYING pumped when he faces setbacks; because he will. But if he is serious about this, then I'm all in. I guess we'll get a glimpse in the coming months.

[stixfix69]

Worst case scenario is he gets cut, best case is the sky is the limit if he commits himself, and focuses on playing football....And no better place for a player with motivation issues than here, as the standard is pretty high for players who walk through these doors..

[757RavensFan]

5 minutes ago, riseNConquer81 said:

You didnt remember the year, because the year didnt exist. 
You just latched on 2009 after i mentioned because it was the nearest thing that made you sound like you made sense. 
Problem with that though is that you cant find the story stating that Suggs was overweight in 2009. Because it doesnt exist. 
In 2009 the stories were:
Kelly Gregg is old.
Foxworth's knees are disintegrating.
Frank Walker sucks.
Chris Carr isnt worth that much money.
hopefully our defense doesnt suck now that Rex is gone. 
we still need more pass rushers, cuz Kruger is not it. 
Suggs had a domestic violence thing that year. 
nothing about him being overweight. 
feel free to prove me wrong. 

 i seriously hope you dont expect me to apologize for doing homework before i speak about something. I wont. informed commentary is really the only way to go, especially since Google is SOO easy to use. Dont be mad at me for choosing to know what im talking about before i speak. 

and no thats not ironic at all. I presented a possibility as a possibility. 
Saying "Suggs COULD HAVE gotten 3 sacks in one of those games" is not the same as saying 'Suggs IS bad because we never got to see what he could produce in the part of the season he missed." 
see the difference?
Besides, what is your point even supposed to be with that whole train of thought? the only thing you're really doing their is further invalidating your own argument.
 

OK:

 http://baltimoresportsreport.com/ravens-roster-countdown-55-terrell-suggs-8221.html

http://thepurplechaos.com/2011/09/13/terrell-suggs-in-prime-position-to-become-ravens-next-defensive-leader/

 

Quote

Then, in 2009, Suggs hit rock bottom when collected just 4.5 sacks. That year he appeared out of shape, overweight, and was plagued by injuries. After the season ended, Suggs apologized to the Ravens organization and said that it would never happen again.

http://russellstreetreport.com/2014/04/29/street-talk/which-terrell-suggs-will-show-up-in-2014/

 

Quote

Suggs and the team agreed on a six-year $62.5 million dollar deal before the start of the 2009 season. His bonus and guaranteed money made him the highest paid linebacker in the NFL.  He followed that with  the least productive season of his career with 4.5 sacks and was criticized for being lazy and overweight. This would be one extreme.

 

 

[Halshayeji]

11 minutes ago, riseNConquer81 said:

You didnt remember the year, because the year didnt exist. 
You just latched on 2009 after i mentioned because it was the nearest thing that made you sound like you made sense. 
Problem with that though is that you cant find the story stating that Suggs was overweight in 2009. Because it doesnt exist. 
In 2009 the stories were:
Kelly Gregg is old.
Foxworth's knees are disintegrating.
Frank Walker sucks.
Chris Carr isnt worth that much money.
hopefully our defense doesnt suck now that Rex is gone. 
we still need more pass rushers, cuz Kruger is not it. 
Suggs had a domestic violence thing that year. 
nothing about him being overweight. 
feel free to prove me wrong. 

 i seriously hope you dont expect me to apologize for doing homework before i speak about something. I wont. informed commentary is really the only way to go, especially since Google is SOO easy to use. Dont be mad at me for choosing to know what im talking about before i speak. 

and no thats not ironic at all. I presented a possibility as a possibility. 
Saying "Suggs COULD HAVE gotten 3 sacks in one of those games" is not the same as saying 'Suggs IS bad because we never got to see what he could produce in the part of the season he missed." 
see the difference?
Besides, what is your point even supposed to be with that whole train of thought? the only thing you're really doing there is further invalidating your own argument.
 

2009 was like 7 years ago lol

heck who cares if Suggs was 200 or 300 pounds. It was 2009!

[billiejean]

  24 minutes ago, riseNConquer81 said:

You didnt remember the year, because the year didnt exist. 
You just latched on 2009 after i mentioned because it was the nearest thing that made you sound like you made sense. 
Problem with that though is that you cant find the story stating that Suggs was overweight in 2009. Because it doesnt exist. 
In 2009 the stories were:
Kelly Gregg is old.
Foxworth's knees are disintegrating.
Frank Walker sucks.
Chris Carr isnt worth that much money.
hopefully our defense doesnt suck now that Rex is gone. 
we still need more pass rushers, cuz Kruger is not it. 
Suggs had a domestic violence thing that year. 
nothing about him being overweight. 
feel free to prove me wrong. 

 i seriously hope you dont expect me to apologize for doing homework before i speak about something. I wont. informed commentary is really the only way to go, especially since Google is SOO easy to use. Dont be mad at me for choosing to know what im talking about before i speak. 

and no thats not ironic at all. I presented a possibility as a possibility. 
Saying "Suggs COULD HAVE gotten 3 sacks in one of those games" is not the same as saying 'Suggs IS bad because we never got to see what he could produce in the part of the season he missed." 
see the difference?
Besides, what is your point even supposed to be with that whole train of thought? the only thing you're really doing their is further invalidating your own argument.
 

OK:

 http://baltimoresportsreport.com/ravens-roster-countdown-55-terrell-suggs-8221.html

http://thepurplechaos.com/2011/09/13/terrell-suggs-in-prime-position-to-become-ravens-next-defensive-leader/

 

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Then, in 2009, Suggs hit rock bottom when collected just 4.5 sacks. That year he appeared out of shape, overweight, and was plagued by injuries. After the season ended, Suggs apologized to the Ravens organization and said that it would never happen again.

http://russellstreetreport.com/2014/04/29/street-talk/which-terrell-suggs-will-show-up-in-2014/

 

  Quote

Suggs and the team agreed on a six-year $62.5 million dollar deal before the start of the 2009 season. His bonus and guaranteed money made him the highest paid linebacker in the NFL.  He followed that with  the least productive season of his career with 4.5 sacks and was criticized for being lazy and overweight. This would be one extreme.

 

 

ding ding ding ding.... we have a winner

[stixfix69]

Suggs should be in shape this year, seeing with a suspended license he might have to walk to work.....:)

[riseNConquer81]

28 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

OK:

 http://baltimoresportsreport.com/ravens-roster-countdown-55-terrell-suggs-8221.html

http://thepurplechaos.com/2011/09/13/terrell-suggs-in-prime-position-to-become-ravens-next-defensive-leader/

 

http://russellstreetreport.com/2014/04/29/street-talk/which-terrell-suggs-will-show-up-in-2014/

 

 

 

you got links to 3 small time blogs that are presenting speculative opinions that amount to exactly what i said before; fans blowing his weight way out of proportion because he had ONE mediocre season.
Two of them copied the same paragraph word for word into their pieces (and didnt cite each other), which means not only are we talking about speculative opinions, but theyre not even independent speculative opinions. 

you could at least find a BR,com article about it, if you're going to bother. 
You're scraping the bottom of the barrel on the internet, which is pretty hard to do.
that should tell you something...
 

Edited March 30, 2016 by riseNConquer81

[riseNConquer81]

32 minutes ago, Halshayeji said:

2009 was like 7 years ago lol

heck who cares if Suggs was 200 or 300 pounds. It was 2009!

hey its BR.com, you know how it is here. 
14 season careers are defined by the reachy fan conceived inferences about one long gone season all the time, its the law of the land. lol

[billiejean]

  52 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

OK:

 http://baltimoresportsreport.com/ravens-roster-countdown-55-terrell-suggs-8221.html

http://thepurplechaos.com/2011/09/13/terrell-suggs-in-prime-position-to-become-ravens-next-defensive-leader/

 

http://russellstreetreport.com/2014/04/29/street-talk/which-terrell-suggs-will-show-up-in-2014/

 

 

 

you got links to 3 small time blogs that are presenting speculative opinions that amount to exactly what i said before; fans blowing his weight way out of proportion because he had ONE mediocre season.
Two of them copied the same paragraph word for word into their pieces (and didnt cite each other), which means not only are we talking about speculative opinions, but theyre not even independent speculative opinions. 

you could at least find a BR,com article about it, if you're going to bother. 
You're scraping the bottom of the barrel on the internet, which is pretty hard to do.
that should tell you something...
 

Is the Baltimore Sun a reliable source?

[riseNConquer81]

20 minutes ago, billiejean said:

Is the Baltimore Sun a reliable source?

*eye rolls*
I dont see any Baltimore Sun links here. 
and really, some player, coach, or front office testimony would be great, because fans, blogs, and news outlets make up stuff actual people in the NFL dont agree with at all, all the time. 

But this is a tangent, almost completely beside the point, so for the sake of argument, you can have it. 

That way you can start coming up with an answer to this question, getting back to my original point:
What does one sub par season from almost a decade ago that none of you could even be bothered to remember beyond vague mention have to do with the work ethic and effectiveness of a player that has been nothing like that in any of the rest of his 13 seasons, in this upcoming September?

Edited March 30, 2016 by riseNConquer81

[jravens1313]

1 hour ago, Fastynart said:

Richardson? There is a reason why an overall number 3 draft pick plays for 3 teams in 4 years and was cut by the Raiders. Unless the Ravens have figured it out and it is addressable, they are wasting their time and money on this guy. Talk is cheap. Whatever Harbaugh said to him he has heard before and not put up where his mouth is. It is only worth the chance if it costs the Ravens nothing. The first sign of slippage or lack of effort should get him a one way bus ticket out of here. He has had enough chances.

I love your comments and your username. You give this site some character. 

[budman]

1 hour ago, 757RavensFan said:

OK:

 http://baltimoresportsreport.com/ravens-roster-countdown-55-terrell-suggs-8221.html

http://thepurplechaos.com/2011/09/13/terrell-suggs-in-prime-position-to-become-ravens-next-defensive-leader/

 

http://russellstreetreport.com/2014/04/29/street-talk/which-terrell-suggs-will-show-up-in-2014/

 

 

 

Touch'e

[757RavensFan]

14 minutes ago, riseNConquer81 said:

*eye rolls*
I dont see any Baltimore Sun links here. 
and really, some player, coach, or front office testimony would be great. 

But this is a tangent, almost completely beside the point, so for the sake of argument, you can have it. 

That way you can start coming up with an answer to this question, getting back to my original point:
What does one sub par season from almost a decade ago that none of you could even be bothered to remember beyond vague mention have to do with the work ethic and effectiveness of a player that has been nothing like that in any of the rest of his 13 seasons, in this upcoming September?

Here's the Sun article. 

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2011-09-12/sports/bs-sp-preston-column-0913-20110912_1_terrell-suggs-ray-lewis-ed-reed

 

I answered the original question from JRavens1313 was, "Have you honestly seen a year where Suggs didn't bring his all? Or wasn't the most dominant player on the field wearing Purple and Black?"  That question was answered, it was you who took the conversation left. Heck even you answered JRavens1313 question by stating above that Suggs had a sup par season.  So what's your beef? 

Edited March 30, 2016 by 757RavensFan

[budman]

Enough of the Suggs argument! There are more exciting things going on. Royal Farms Chicken is on Sale!!!Lol

[riseNConquer81]

8 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

Here's the Sun article. 

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2011-09-12/sports/bs-sp-preston-column-0913-20110912_1_terrell-suggs-ray-lewis-ed-reed

 

The original question from JRavens1313 was, "Have you honestly seen a year where Suggs didn't bring his all? Or wasn't the most dominant player on the field wearing Purple and Black?"  That question was answered, it was you who took the conversation left. Heck even you answered JRavens1313 question by stating above that Suggs had a sup par season.  So what's your beef? 

Yeah, and thats when i said your one example was hardly worth remembering...because it really isnt. you were just nitpicking at JRavens very accurate main point: which is that Suggs' effort isnt really up for questioning right now. He's taking care of business.

so like i said: what's 7 years ago got to do with now, especially in light of the rest of his career?
What you're taking about is akin to firing firing Steve Jobs because he stole a candy bar from a gas station when he was 8. 
if we were heading into the start of the 2010 or even 2011 season, it MIGHT have been worth bringing up. 
its 2016. 

Edited March 30, 2016 by riseNConquer81

[A Fish Called Yanda]

5 minutes ago, riseNConquer81 said:

Yeah, and thats when i said your one example was hardly worth remembering...because it really isnt. you were just nitpicking at JRavens very accurate main point: which is that Suggs' effort isnt really up for questioning right now. He's taking care of business.

so like i said: what's 7 years ago got to do with now, especially in light of the rest of his career?
What you're taking about is akin to firing firing Steve Jobs because he stole a candy bar from a gas station when he was 8. 
if we were heading into the start of the 2010 or even 2011 season, it MIGHT have been worth bringing up. 
its 2016. 

Is there a single article on this website on which you haven't gotten into an argument with at least one person?

[budman]

8 minutes ago, riseNConquer81 said:

Yeah, and thats when i said your one example was hardly worth remembering...because it really isnt.

so like i said: what's 7 years ago got to do with now, especially in light of the rest of his career?
What you're taking about is akin to firing firing Steve Jobs because he stole a candy bar from a gas station when he was 8.

All kidding and arguing aside; I love Sizzle. Always have. I think it would not be uncommon for someone to Wonder if what happened 7 years ago with the season he had and the weight issue, could it happen again? because:

He is coming off another injury and he is older.

Coming off a 5-11 season

All his close friends are gone

Contemplating just how much longer he is going to play

NOT that he IS going to do anything different than the last 7 years. He made a promise that he would never do it again and he has kept that promise to date.

Just saying that for someone to WONDER about it is natural.

 

Edited March 30, 2016 by budman

[757RavensFan]

7 minutes ago, riseNConquer81 said:

Yeah, and thats when i said your one example was hardly worth remembering...because it really isnt. you were just nitpicking at JRavens very accurate main point: which is that Suggs' effort isnt really up for questioning right now. He's taking care of business.

so like i said: what's 7 years ago got to do with now, especially in light of the rest of his career?
What you're taking about is akin to firing firing Steve Jobs because he stole a candy bar from a gas station when he was 8. 
if we were heading into the start of the 2010 or even 2011 season, it MIGHT have been worth bringing up. 
its 2016. 

Like he took care of business last off-season when he admittingly showed up not at his "fighting weight" and that was when he was healthy.

This was my initial post on this thread and I stand by it.

"As much as I love Suggs, I'm not convinced he has the internal fire to be dominant again as he was 2 years ago. Just last off-season he talked about retirement, how losing Ngata affected him and we know he's dealing w/ personal issues.  I hope he has it in him to give us one more great year."  

 

I'll let you to continue to argue.  Especially after you asked me to prove you wrong which I did but of course you won't admit that.  

I'm done!  Peace!

 

[billiejean]

  33 minutes ago, billiejean said:

Is the Baltimore Sun a reliable source?

*eye rolls*
I dont see any Baltimore Sun links here. 
and really, some player, coach, or front office testimony would be great, because fans, blogs, and news outlets make up stuff actual people in the NFL dont agree with at all, all the time. 

But this is a tangent, almost completely beside the point, so for the sake of argument, you can have it. 

That way you can start coming up with an answer to this question, getting back to my original point:
What does one sub par season from almost a decade ago that none of you could even be bothered to remember beyond vague mention have to do with the work ethic and effectiveness of a player that has been nothing like that in any of the rest of his 13 seasons, in this upcoming September?

The reason people are worried about this season is two fold. One, By suggs' own admission he showed up out of shape last year. Two, it is difficult to stay in shape when you are nursing a torn achilles. I am sure you will find flaws with all of these sources. The bottom line is that it is not such an outlandish idea to wonder if TS has stayed in shape over the offseason.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Aging-Terrell-Suggs-Feels-Weird-Without-Haloti-Ngata/d268e1d9-abb7-45dc-a494-45ebd4282f07
"The other change is Suggs’ offseason training methodology. The past couple years, it seemed Suggs arrived at minicamp determined to prove he was working hard away from the team. He came back looking like an action movie hero. This year, he showed up noticeably heavier with more love in his handles.
“I’m definitely not in ‘Sizz shape,” Suggs said with a laugh. “I’m not out of shape. I can participate in practice without getting hurt and without getting tired. I’m definitely not at my fighting weight. I’m pretty much at my walking around weight.”"

http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/2010/02/04/harbaugh-needs-suggs-in-world-class-shape/#sthash.StY7TMLU.dpufIn 2009,
Suggs didn’t agree to the deal until mid-July, meaning that he didn’t join the team for any of the spring workouts. By the time training camp rolled around in August, Suggs was behind in his conditioning and missed a large portion of camp with a heel injury.
“I think he came in out of shape, and we now have him for the offseason,” Owner Steve Bisciotti said. “So, that’s going to say everything.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/bs-sp-preston-ravens-terrell-suggs-column-1030-20151029-column.html
"But he has struggled with playing weight the past two years. He was noticeably bigger during the mandatory minicamp in late June, and was still overweight when training camp started at the end of July. Suggs also never seemed to get over the Ravens trading one of his best friends, defensive tackle Haloti Ngata, to the Detroit Lions in March."

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2010-05-17/sports/bs-sp-ravens-suggs-0518-20100517_1_ravens-suggs-terrell-suggs-ravens-facility
"Last season was filled with obstacles for the Ravens outside linebacker, from the weight of a new contract to the added weight on his body. Suggs finished with a career-low 41/2 sacks and 59 tackles, his fewest since 2003, his rookie season."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/bs-sp-preston-ravens-column-0915-20150914-column.html
"During the past two seasons, he has used training camp and the early part of the regular season to play his way into game shape."

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/06/18/update-from-the-ravens-nest-with-aaron-wilson-2/
"The question on most fans’ minds is about Terrell Suggs being out of shape. Aaron Wilson says he is probably 15-20 pounds over his playing weight but believes he can get back to his normal weight by the start of the season. Wilson says it is not too alarming but it’s also not a good thing. When Vinny said he is sure that Coach Harbaugh is upset by it, Wilson agrees that he probably is but won’t publicly embarrass him by talking about it. He will probably talk with him behind closed doors about what has to be done."

[budman]

As I posted earlier, we are constantly being updated and reminded about Flacco and Steve Smith's rehab and their current condition but have heard nothing on Suggs. Flacco and Smith Sr. are going to be at the Flock Festival but still Suggs? Is he on schedule? ahead of schedule? behind schedule?  Smith Sr. is coming off Achilles also.Just saying

Edited March 30, 2016 by budman

[DynastyofBaltimore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fud-imTVAQ

I didn't know any of this about Trent. It gives me a little hope for him, actually.

[robbie29]

Best of luck, Trent. Let's hope for better results than the last time we picked up a former 1st round pick and Alabama alum who was let go by the Raiders. Actually, we did end up getting a 6th & 7th round pick from the Cowboys for Rolando, so that whole retirement saga wasn't entirely fruitless for the Ravens.

[hen826957]

I know l'm dreaming about this and is a very unlikely scenario but what if there a chance Ramsey fall to the Ravens. I just look on NFL.com and l read an article that the Chargers like interested in Myles Jack but l heard they like Buckner as well. Now if they draft Jack at number 3 overall that leaves Cowboys and Jaguars to take Ramsey (which is very likely) but if they take Buckner and the Cowboys take Myles Jack (which they like as well) that only leaves the Jaguars and Ravens to take Ramsey. That's close the Ravens can get to Ramsey and l hope not that the strengh of the schedule that what the Jaguars have (to overleap the Ravens a draft spot) is the only reason that the Ravens can't get Ramsey. I still like Myles Jack, and Bosa though. Ramsey: the best player in the Draft, Myles Jack: need and best player available, and Bosa: best player available will all be great picks. But like l said, if the draft goes like this Pick 1: Tunsil, Pick 2: Wenz, Pick 3: Buckner, Pick 4: Jack, Pick 5: Ramsey that's gonna hurt big time. ?

[riseNConquer81]

2 hours ago, A Fish Called Yanda said:

Is there a single article on this website on which you haven't gotten into an argument with at least one person?

possibly.

i go on vacations and get busy with work sometimes, anything posted then is a good bet. 
some people really like to argue with me though, i have regulars lol. 

Edited March 30, 2016 by riseNConquer81

[riseNConquer81]

1 hour ago, 757RavensFan said:

Like he took care of business last off-season when he admittingly showed up not at his "fighting weight" and that was when he was healthy.

This was my initial post on this thread and I stand by it.

"As much as I love Suggs, I'm not convinced he has the internal fire to be dominant again as he was 2 years ago. Just last off-season he talked about retirement, how losing Ngata affected him and we know he's dealing w/ personal issues.  I hope he has it in him to give us one more great year."  

 

I'll let you to continue to argue.  Especially after you asked me to prove you wrong which I did but of course you won't admit that.  

I'm done!  Peace!

 

dude, i gave you your precious cookie on your irrelevant tangential argument about 7 years ago, several comments ago. keep up. 
(See Fish Called Yanda, this is the problem. I'm generally so sound and accurate about just about everything i say around here, some of these people view proving me wrong as a trophy and will start any dumb little argument to get a crack at doing so.)

weight fluctuates and its hard to keep in a specific range as you get older. Showing up at camp a little over your ideal weight doesnt mean you're a slacker. 
And suggs is an outside linebacker, not a receiver or running back. his weight isnt even really an issue unless its affecting his conditioning. 

But to summarize: 
You think you have room to question Suggs' work ethic and the evidence/justification you cite for that is that once upon a time seven years ago, Suggs had a bad season. 

cool. got it. that sounds totally rational. 

[riseNConquer81]

1 hour ago, billiejean said:

The reason people are worried about this season is two fold. One, By suggs' own admission he showed up out of shape last year. Two, it is difficult to stay in shape when you are nursing a torn achilles. I am sure you will find flaws with all of these sources. The bottom line is that it is not such an outlandish idea to wonder if TS has stayed in shape over the offseason.
 

Wondering if he's stayed in shape this offseason because he has an injury that hinders his ability to do so is completely different from calling him a slacker.

Everybody is editing the issue on the fly here. 
Are there a lot of reasons Suggs might not be in form and might not BE ABLE to be in form? sure. and they are mostly outside of his control. 

757 was questioning his work ethic, and no one has provided any legit reason why doing so is justifiable.