[News] 2016 NFL Draft Order Finalized

[rmcjacket23]

4 minutes ago, PalmBayRaven said:

ESPN has us picking #101, #127, #132, #134 and #182 in Fourth Round. Who is right?

Its 104, 130, 132 and 134 in round 4.

182 is in the 6th round.

[Maryland]

Draft order was known like a week or two ago ever since the comp. picks were released early.

[jravens1313]

Fingers crossed we land Jack or Bosa!

[steelcityraven]

  2 hours ago, elroy said:

The up coming draft is made to rebuild the defense. If they mess this up, Ozzie and the scouting department need to step down.

You don't "rebuild" a defense through the draft in one season. That's mission impossible.

We really should not be re-building. We already have a pretty solid core group of players on that side of the ball. We have two of the best edge pass rushers in the game (albeit aging) with Suggs and Doom... We have one of the best DLs in the game with BWilliams, Timmy, and CDavis (and they are young). We have one of the best MLBs in the game in CJ and one of the better S in the game in Weddle. A very good CB in Jimmy and while there are some holes... they are enough that I would say that we need to re-build in any fashion. A young edge rusher to run with ZSmith... and ILB to play beside CJ (if we have no faith in Arthur) and with the return of Elam and Brooks back healthy... IDK - a little help in some spots and we should be a great defense... no need to re-build.... just build depth and fill a gap or two (CB and ILB -plus additional edge rusher).

[steelcityraven]

The more mock drafts that keep coming out and with other teams starting to slightly tip their cards on who they covet, I am certainly starting to believe that a miracle could happen on draft day. I have seen that the Chargers are extremely high on Buckner and that Dallas isn't coveting Bosa, along with the Titans wanting to deal their first rounder, most likely to get a stud defender and get extra picks. With players such as Elliot, Lawson, Hargreaves boosting their draft stock, it almost seems too good to be true that no matter what we will walk away with a franchise player.
I can see if Tunsil slips past Tennessee, which they trade back or take Ramsey and somehow SD still is looking for defense too then he could very well be a Raven.
With Ramsey, I could see where it goes Tunsil, Goff, Buckner, Jack, Hargreaves, and Ramsey making the surprising fall to us.
With Bosa, I see a lot of analysts thinking that Tennessee if they do go defense, they will take Ramsey, which would still have a similar ripple effect where he is followed by Goff, Tunsil, Jack, Buckner, then it almost seems in every scenario with Dallas or Tennessee not coveting him that he will be available at 6.
Lastly it almost seems that our worst case scenario is Hargreaves, which is a great pick to be left with as he is perfect in our system and is very polished. Is the draft here yet? I want to get a new Ravens jersey!

If Ramsey is not available... I think we could be looking at trading back? Hargraves, MAlexander, and WIll Jackson are all very good... start now type of CB's who we could land later and still load up with another pick?

[eze17]

Hargreaves seems to be a reoccurring name...

[Maurice0094]

If Jack and Ramsey are gone I'd like to see Hargreaves in a Ravens uniform. We need to stop with broken revolving door at CB. Having a playmaker to shut down half the field would be invaluable in this division. I would also go as far to say if the Ravens honestly are all in with Monroe at LT and don't see Spriggs as a viable replacements not the 2nd. Or Noah Spence as too much of a risk in the second. If he's still there I'd take Jaylon Smith in a absolute heartbeat at #36. Without injury he's a top 3 pick without question without injury. I believe he's a young man who will recover from this injury and be absolute beast.

[bioLarzen]

Hargreaves seems to be a reoccurring name...

There are some: Stanley, Bosa, Buckner, Hargreaves. I think any of these would be a solid pick.

[JimmyBlack]

I really like Lee of Ohio State.  I hope that we can pick him up in the 3rd round.

[JimmyBlack]

4 hours ago, Maurice0094 said:

If Jack and Ramsey are gone I'd like to see Hargreaves in a Ravens uniform. We need to stop with broken revolving door at CB. Having a playmaker to shut down half the field would be invaluable in this division. I would also go as far to say if the Ravens honestly are all in with Monroe at LT and don't see Spriggs as a viable replacements not the 2nd. Or Noah Spence as too much of a risk in the second. If he's still there I'd take Jaylon Smith in a absolute heartbeat at #36. Without injury he's a top 3 pick without question without injury. I believe he's a young man who will recover from this injury and be absolute beast.

If not Smith, then Lee of Ohio State in the 3rd round.  I really see us taking a CB in the 2nd.  As for the 1st round, it will be whomever is the BPA at the time.

[JimmyBlack]

5 hours ago, eze17 said:

Hargreaves seems to be a reoccurring name...

He's a solid pick who will be ready to start by next season.

[cbrook1862]

I'm more concerned with pass rush and o line than the secondary. The last few weeks of the season the secondary started playing really well as things finally started settling down and players finally stopped getting injured. I have a lot of confidence in Wright and lets not forget Will Davis, I remember thinking we struck gold with this guy and just like half the team, he got injured and out for the season. Though there were other contributing factors the run game struggled and the o-line was the main contributing factor. Monroe can't be counted on and Hurst sucks so hopefully we can bring in a veteran because I want to bloster our defense.

[billiejean]

I really like Lee of Ohio State.  I hope that we can pick him up in the 3rd round.

Lee is projected to go in the late first round. No way he makes it to round 3

[Rants N Ravens]

21 hours ago, mc_red23 said:

Perriman? Give me a break! He's been injured for a year, for all you know he could go on to have a great career. 

Apparently you didn't read this part?

"the Ravens didn't get as much bang for their initial buck as I'm sure they were hoping."

Meaning Perriman made ZERO contribution his rookie year, something all teams expect from first round draft picks.  That's all I was saying.  Of course I'm hoping he goes on to have a great career.

[Rants N Ravens]

21 hours ago, 757RavensFan said:

Perriman is not the 1st nor will he be the last first round draft pick who missed their rookie season due to injury.  He shouldn't even be included on your list. 

Apparently you didn't read this part?

"the Ravens didn't get as much bang for their initial buck as I'm sure they were hoping."

Meaning Perriman made ZERO contribution his rookie year, something all teams expect from first round draft picks.  That's all I was saying.  Of course I'm hoping he goes on to have a great career.

[Rants N Ravens]

21 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Perriman was injured his rookie year. Don't include him - its a freak thing that the FO has no control over. Dude could turn out to be Jerry Rice for all we know... and thats just it - we dont know yet. So you cant include him in any final analysis of draft pick contributions.

Apparently you didn't read this part?

"the Ravens didn't get as much bang for their initial buck as I'm sure they were hoping."

Meaning Perriman made ZERO contribution his rookie year, something all teams expect from first round draft picks.  That's all I was saying.  Of course I'm hoping he goes on to have a great career.

[Rants N Ravens]

21 hours ago, eze17 said:

Lets not forget the Raven's also drafted Pitta, mosley, J. smith, Wagner & B. williams, not to mention those who've left via FO (KO standing out this year) during that same time. All teams are going to have their hits and misses.
And I agree that Perriman should be given the benefit of the doubt. Lets see what he can do healthy before we put the "bust" tag on him.

Apparently you didn't read this part?

"the Ravens didn't get as much bang for their initial buck as I'm sure they were hoping."

Meaning Perriman made ZERO contribution his rookie year, something all teams expect from first round draft picks.  That's all I was saying.  Never said he is a bust.  Of course I'm hoping he goes on to have a great career.

[rmcjacket23]

15 minutes ago, Rants N Ravens said:

Apparently you didn't read this part?

"the Ravens didn't get as much bang for their initial buck as I'm sure they were hoping."

Meaning Perriman made ZERO contribution his rookie year, something all teams expect from first round draft picks.  That's all I was saying.  Never said he is a bust.  Of course I'm hoping he goes on to have a great career.

1. You posted this four times. Delete some of them.

2. You did classify Perriman in your "miss" section along with guys like Kindle or Cody. Its never wise to classify somebody as a "miss" after one season. You backpedaled on it after the fact by saying they didn't get bang for their buck in year 1.

I would also caution that there are some instances where a team drafts a player with zero intentions of that player playing that season. You can go back to the days of Aaron Rodgers (though those don't really happen anymore), but you don't even have to go back that far. There are plenty of teams who take late 1st round picks as "projects" who are merely backup players who may not even play in year 1.

Bengals took Cedric Ogbuehi in the first round this past season. He played in only five games and played only 65 snaps, and that was more than they were expecting out of him.

I doubt teams like the Bears think Kevin White is a "miss". Neither should we.

[Rants N Ravens]

16 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

1. You posted this four times. Delete some of them.

2. You did classify Perriman in your "miss" section along with guys like Kindle or Cody. Its never wise to classify somebody as a "miss" after one season. You backpedaled on it after the fact by saying they didn't get bang for their buck in year 1.

I would also caution that there are some instances where a team drafts a player with zero intentions of that player playing that season. You can go back to the days of Aaron Rodgers (though those don't really happen anymore), but you don't even have to go back that far. There are plenty of teams who take late 1st round picks as "projects" who are merely backup players who may not even play in year 1.

Bengals took Cedric Ogbuehi in the first round this past season. He played in only five games and played only 65 snaps, and that was more than they were expecting out of him.

I doubt teams like the Bears think Kevin White is a "miss". Neither should we.

I was replying to the individuals who all posted the same response to my original post.  I'm not back-pedaling at all on Perriman, I said what I meant.  He was a "miss" as far as last year goes.  The Ravens clearly drafted him that high with hopes he'd help make up for the loss of Torrey Smith.  By him getting injured, he didn't play a down and thus did not remotely do what they hoped he would.  That is a miss.  I wasn't nor am I now saying he's a long-term miss.  He was a miss last year.  Comparing his situation to Rodgers is way off the mark; the Packers weren't trying to replace a HOF QB at that time; they were drafting his eventual successor.  Perriman wasn't being drafted to sit for a year or two; he was drafted to immediately become the team's deep threat.

[rmcjacket23]

2 minutes ago, Rants N Ravens said:

I was replying to the individuals who all posted the same response to my original post.  I'm not back-pedaling at all on Perriman, I said what I meant.  He was a "miss" as far as last year goes.  The Ravens clearly drafted him that high with hopes he'd help make up for the loss of Torrey Smith.  By him getting injured, he didn't play a down and thus did not remotely do what they hoped he would.  That is a miss.  I wasn't nor am I now saying he's a long-term miss.  He was a miss last year.  Comparing his situation to Rodgers is way off the mark; the Packers weren't trying to replace a HOF QB at that time; they were drafting his eventual successor.  Perriman wasn't being drafted to sit for a year or two; he was drafted to immediately become the team's deep threat.

1. There's a multi-quote button, where you can quote more than one post at a time without literally posting the same response four different times.

2. You lumped in a short-term miss with several long-term misses, of which some of them aren't even on the team or in the NFL anymore. I don't think its hard to understand why some people may take issue with that.

3. Neither you nor I have any idea what Perriman was drafted for. Generally speaking, I work under the premise that the Ravens draft a player in the 1st round with the intention of them being a great player for a decade for this team. If it takes them 1-2 years to start that decade, so be it. Our FO would probably be just fine with that.

4. The reason I referenced Rodgers is because your actual statement was " Meaning Perriman made ZERO contribution his rookie year, something all teams expect from first round draft picks". The reason I referenced Rodgers, among other examples I could give, is that all teams don't expect first year contributions from their first round draft picks.

There are plenty of instances where a team drafts a guy in the first round knowing pretty much 100% that he simply won't play that first season.

[RavensDieHard21]

21 hours ago, steelcityraven said:

If Ramsey is not available... I think we could be looking at trading back? Hargraves, MAlexander, and WIll Jackson are all very good... start now type of CB's who we could land later and still load up with another pick?

I like Hargreaves and Lawson as trade backs and I mean only going as far back as 10 because I think the Giants and Eagles both want Elliot. I think that Alexander is a trade up guy we can move back in the end of the firth for or could slip right to us

[RavensDieHard21]

19 hours ago, Maurice0094 said:

If Jack and Ramsey are gone I'd like to see Hargreaves in a Ravens uniform. We need to stop with broken revolving door at CB. Having a playmaker to shut down half the field would be invaluable in this division. I would also go as far to say if the Ravens honestly are all in with Monroe at LT and don't see Spriggs as a viable replacements not the 2nd. Or Noah Spence as too much of a risk in the second. If he's still there I'd take Jaylon Smith in a absolute heartbeat at #36. Without injury he's a top 3 pick without question without injury. I believe he's a young man who will recover from this injury and be absolute beast.

Yes but due to his injury, his draft stock is all over the place, he might very well be there in the third, if not the fourth. When you pick in the first round and second round, you hope those players can immediately contribute, especially at #36 where a lot of other top talent might be