[News] 2016 NFL Draft Order Finalized

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The Ravens now know exactly where they will be picking in this year’s draft.

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[Rants N Ravens]

Gotta hit on this draft to set ourselves up for the next 4 to 5 seasons. We can't afford more misses like Kindle, Cody, Upshaw, Elam, Arthur Brown, or even Perriman for that matter with our top picks. And yes I realize Upshaw was a contributor and Perriman can still develop, but when you consider how high they were picked compared with their immediate contributions...the Ravens didn't get as much bang for their initial buck as I'm sure they were hoping.

[ryananth]

Wow, 7 picks of the first 134 players should really make a huge difference

[mc_red23]

29 minutes ago, Rants N Ravens said:

Gotta hit on this draft to set ourselves up for the next 4 to 5 seasons. We can't afford more misses like Kindle, Cody, Upshaw, Elam, Arthur Brown, or even Perriman for that matter with our top picks. And yes I realize Upshaw was a contributor and Perriman can still develop, but when you consider how high they were picked compared with their immediate contributions...the Ravens didn't get as much bang for their initial buck as I'm sure they were hoping.

Perriman? Give me a break! He's been injured for a year, for all you know he could go on to have a great career. 

[757RavensFan]

31 minutes ago, Rants N Ravens said:

Gotta hit on this draft to set ourselves up for the next 4 to 5 seasons. We can't afford more misses like Kindle, Cody, Upshaw, Elam, Arthur Brown, or even Perriman for that matter with our top picks. And yes I realize Upshaw was a contributor and Perriman can still develop, but when you consider how high they were picked compared with their immediate contributions...the Ravens didn't get as much bang for their initial buck as I'm sure they were hoping.

Perriman is not the 1st nor will he be the last first round draft pick who missed their rookie season due to injury.  He shouldn't even be included on your list. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Gotta hit on this draft to set ourselves up for the next 4 to 5 seasons. We can't afford more misses like Kindle, Cody, Upshaw, Elam, Arthur Brown, or even Perriman for that matter with our top picks. And yes I realize Upshaw was a contributor and Perriman can still develop, but when you consider how high they were picked compared with their immediate contributions...the Ravens didn't get as much bang for their initial buck as I'm sure they were hoping.

Perriman was injured his rookie year. Don't include him - its a freak thing that the FO has no control over. Dude could turn out to be Jerry Rice for all we know... and thats just it - we dont know yet. So you cant include him in any final analysis of draft pick contributions.

[mendii]

ramsey,tunsil,bosa,jack,bucker,elliot one of em has to be available at number 6. Sounds good to me.

[eze17]

Gotta hit on this draft to set ourselves up for the next 4 to 5 seasons. We can't afford more misses like Kindle, Cody, Upshaw, Elam, Arthur Brown, or even Perriman for that matter with our top picks. And yes I realize Upshaw was a contributor and Perriman can still develop, but when you consider how high they were picked compared with their immediate contributions...the Ravens didn't get as much bang for their initial buck as I'm sure they were hoping.

Lets not forget the Raven's also drafted Pitta, mosley, J. smith, Wagner & B. williams, not to mention those who've left via FO (KO standing out this year) during that same time. All teams are going to have their hits and misses.
And I agree that Perriman should be given the benefit of the doubt. Lets see what he can do healthy before we put the "bust" tag on him.

[757RavensFan]

Shouldnt round two be our 37th pick?

[JacktheRaven]

Shouldnt round two be our 37th pick?

No, there are only 31 picks in the 1st round. NE lost theirs.

[fusuymada]

Bleacher report has Ramsey falling to the fifth pick in the draft to the Jaguars after the Chargers pick Buckner and the Cowboys pick Jack. If we let Ramsey slide to five and can't figure a way to move up a spot or two to get him would be a draft day travesty. Ramsey clearly is the top talent in the draft and it appears other teams must be picking to fill a spot. Ramsey is a great fit for us and can play Safety with Weddle or Cornerback opposite Jimmy Smith. Either way would be a homerun and we can manipulate our way around to get Spence or another pass rusher later in the first or early in the second.

[rmcjacket23]

20 minutes ago, JacktheRaven said:

No, there are only 31 picks in the 1st round. NE lost theirs.

30 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

Shouldnt round two be our 37th pick?

Actually, that's not why. If we were the 6th pick in round 2 (like we have the 6th pick in round 1), we would be picking at 37 with only 31 picks in the first round.

We are actually the 5th pick in round 2, putting us at 36.

From what I can tell, it has to do with some sort of "rotation" among the teams that finished at 5-11. Jacksonville and SF also finished 5-11, but they go by SOS in determining who picks first among that group. Its why Jacksonville picks ahead of us in round 1, but SF is behind us in round 1.

It appears, looking at the rounds that follow, that this particular order "rotates" essentially. If you notice, in round 2, we pick ahead of both SF and Jacksonville, yet we picked between them in round 1. In round 3, we actually pick behind both of them (pick #70, which is the 7th pick in round 3.

So based on that rotation, here's what it actually looks like:

Round 1, pick 6 (#6)

Round 2, pick 5 (#36)

Round 3, pick 7 (#70)

Round 4, pick 6 (#104), pick 32 (#130... trade from Denver), pick 34 (#132... comp), pick 36 (#134... comp)

Round 5 - no pick. We would have pick 5 (#144), but that was traded to Denver.

Round 6, pick 7 (#182), pick 34 (#209... comp)

Round 7 - no pick. We would have pick 6 (#227) but that was traded to Miami.

So basically, we go 6,5,7 every round in terms of the number pick in that particular round. Its a three way rotation with SF and Jacksonville based on record/SOS.

 

Edited March 29, 2016 by rmcjacket23

[rmcjacket23]

5 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

Bleacher report has Ramsey falling to the fifth pick in the draft to the Jaguars after the Chargers pick Buckner and the Cowboys pick Jack. If we let Ramsey slide to five and can't figure a way to move up a spot or two to get him would be a draft day travesty. Ramsey clearly is the top talent in the draft and it appears other teams must be picking to fill a spot. Ramsey is a great fit for us and can play Safety with Weddle or Cornerback opposite Jimmy Smith. Either way would be a homerun and we can manipulate our way around to get Spence or another pass rusher later in the first or early in the second.

1. Yeah, I don't see it. There's not a whole lot of motivation for a team like Jacksonville or even Dallas to swap picks with us for a player they may very well want themselves. 

2. We have no idea what the cost of trading up will be, but I would guess it would cost at least a third rounder. If that's the case, there's a zero percent chance you could move back into round 1 to get a player, because we simply wouldn't have the ammo.

If Ramsey becomes a Raven, it will almost certainly be because he falls to us at #6.

[Crusader]

"The Ravens are rich with picks early in the draft" That does not matter if you keep picking special team players like Elam and Brown or walking wounded players.

[elroy]

The up coming draft is made to rebuild the defense. If they mess this up, Ozzie and the scouting department need to step down.

[rmcjacket23]

21 minutes ago, Crusader said:

"The Ravens are rich with picks early in the draft" That does not matter if you keep picking special team players like Elam and Brown or walking wounded players.

So would you prefer we had less picks and still pick guys like those?

More picks gives you a better opportunity to land a Brandon Williams or a Rick Wagner. Less picks lowers the margin for error significantly.

[rmcjacket23]

14 minutes ago, elroy said:

The up coming draft is made to rebuild the defense. If they mess this up, Ozzie and the scouting department need to step down.

Would also take several years to determine if you messed up or not. Not a one year project or assessment.

[757RavensFan]

33 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Actually, that's not why. If we were the 6th pick in round 2 (like we have the 6th pick in round 1), we would be picking at 37 with only 31 picks in the first round.

We are actually the 5th pick in round 2, putting us at 36.

From what I can tell, it has to do with some sort of "rotation" among the teams that finished at 5-11. Jacksonville and SF also finished 5-11, but they go by SOS in determining who picks first among that group. Its why Jacksonville picks ahead of us in round 1, but SF is behind us in round 1.

It appears, looking at the rounds that follow, that this particular order "rotates" essentially. If you notice, in round 2, we pick ahead of both SF and Jacksonville, yet we picked between them in round 1. In round 3, we actually pick behind both of them (pick #70, which is the 7th pick in round 3.

So based on that rotation, here's what it actually looks like:

Round 1, pick 6 (#6)

Round 2, pick 5 (#36)

Round 3, pick 7 (#70)

Round 4, pick 6 (#104), pick 32 (#130... trade from Denver), pick 34 (#132... comp), pick 36 (#134... comp)

Round 5 - no pick. We would have pick 5 (#144), but that was traded to Denver.

Round 6, pick 7 (#182), pick 34 (#209... comp)

Round 7 - no pick. We would have pick 6 (#227) but that was traded to Miami.

So basically, we go 6,5,7 every round in terms of the number pick in that particular round. Its a three way rotation with SF and Jacksonville based on record/SOS.

 

Thanks for the explanation. 

[sami]

how can we have pick #36 in round 4. Wouldn't that be pick #4 in the 5th round?

[RayRocks]

3 minutes ago, sami said:

how can we have pick #36 in round 4. Wouldn't that be pick #4 in the 5th round?

Compensatory picks

[rmcjacket23]

4 minutes ago, sami said:

how can we have pick #36 in round 4. Wouldn't that be pick #4 in the 5th round?

Comp picks.

There's more than 32 picks in many of the rounds.

[Space11jams]

The up coming draft is made to rebuild the defense. If they mess this up, Ozzie and the scouting department need to step down.

impossible to determine in one season

[b93333]

The up coming draft is made to rebuild the defense. If they mess this up, Ozzie and the scouting department need to step down.

No doubt the Oz has whiffed a lot more than usual in the past few years. This is his chance to make up for it in one fell swoop!

[bioLarzen]

The up coming draft is made to rebuild the defense. If they mess this up, Ozzie and the scouting department need to step down.

You don't "rebuild" a defense through the draft in one season. That's mission impossible.

[RavensDieHard21]

Bleacher report has Ramsey falling to the fifth pick in the draft to the Jaguars after the Chargers pick Buckner and the Cowboys pick Jack. If we let Ramsey slide to five and can't figure a way to move up a spot or two to get him would be a draft day travesty. Ramsey clearly is the top talent in the draft and it appears other teams must be picking to fill a spot. Ramsey is a great fit for us and can play Safety with Weddle or Cornerback opposite Jimmy Smith. Either way would be a homerun and we can manipulate our way around to get Spence or another pass rusher later in the first or early in the second.

I seen that mock and I would love for us to get Ramsey, but I think that both Dallas and JAX would covet him too much to pass him up on a trade, unless they really wanted Elliot or Jack and figure they still could get him, but still the price could be too rich if we wanted to really do damage in this draft. I am praying a massive surprise comes for us and Ramsey, Jack, or Tunsil slide, but we will see.

[eze17]

I'm still betting on one of the top defensive guys being there at #6: Ramsey, Bosa, Buckner,and Jacks. Anyone of them would be fine by me, although for all I know the FO may have someone else in mind. As always, it's A crap-shoot predicting drafts, but i'd guess one of the four above to be a Raven and would'nt be disappointed.

[RavensDieHard21]

The more mock drafts that keep coming out and with other teams starting to slightly tip their cards on who they covet, I am certainly starting to believe that a miracle could happen on draft day. I have seen that the Chargers are extremely high on Buckner and that Dallas isn't coveting Bosa, along with the Titans wanting to deal their first rounder, most likely to get a stud defender and get extra picks. With players such as Elliot, Lawson, Hargreaves boosting their draft stock, it almost seems too good to be true that no matter what we will walk away with a franchise player.
I can see if Tunsil slips past Tennessee, which they trade back or take Ramsey and somehow SD still is looking for defense too then he could very well be a Raven.
With Ramsey, I could see where it goes Tunsil, Goff, Buckner, Jack, Hargreaves, and Ramsey making the surprising fall to us.
With Bosa, I see a lot of analysts thinking that Tennessee if they do go defense, they will take Ramsey, which would still have a similar ripple effect where he is followed by Goff, Tunsil, Jack, Buckner, then it almost seems in every scenario with Dallas or Tennessee not coveting him that he will be available at 6.
Lastly it almost seems that our worst case scenario is Hargreaves, which is a great pick to be left with as he is perfect in our system and is very polished. Is the draft here yet? I want to get a new Ravens jersey!

[dirtybird66]

WOW! five pick's in round four,in a row,pretty much,ther's really good value there and with their smart's i would speculate atleast two will become great player's for us.

[PalmBayRaven]

ESPN has us picking #101, #127, #132, #134 and #182 in Fourth Round. Who is right?

[dirtybird66]

with great pick's in later rounds,mabey we stick at #6 it's just exciting to speculate,me,JACK and BUCKNER-1-2,still don't think we really need an o-lineman.but i also see someone really giving up the house for that #6