[News] Vikings' Mike Zimmer Expects Mike Wallace To Fit Well With Ravens

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The Minnesota Vikings head coach had nothing but good things to say about the veteran receiver.

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[757RavensFan]

Good to hear that Zimmerman spoke highly of Wallace.  One of the knocks on Wallace after leaving PIT was 

his attitude towards players and coaches.  

[JimmyBlack]

All he needs is to taste the success that he had in Pittsburgh by having a 100 yard receiving game or two.

[fusuymada]

We need to get him involved soon and often. The sooner the better and the more often the better. Wallace can get really involved really fast and buy in to the system rapidly if we can get him a couple 6-8 catch 100-120 yard games. (Consequently, if he gets frustrated early it could poison his year and perhaps drag down other team members.) It just never seemed like Torrey did that much but when you look back he accumulated some major yardage here. And to think about all those pass interference calls and to convert that to yardage and Torrey would have led the league in receiving. I can see Wallace being almost a Torrey Smith twin here and if we use him in conjunction with Perriman,SSS and Aiken we are going to have one heck of a 3 and 4 receiver set.

[The Greek]

wallace is an insurance policy if perriman is not ready or struggles but either way sss is old and we still need a receiver because camp and brown are not reliable.

[rmcjacket23]

24 minutes ago, The Greek said:

wallace is an insurance policy if perriman is not ready or struggles but either way sss is old and we still need a receiver because camp and brown are not reliable.

We got four guys for sure that the team likes. If we add a receiver in the draft, I'd expect a mid-rounder or later.

 

[stixfix69]

I don't see Wallace as a insurance policy as he is a more proven vet than Perriman, as i see Perriman if he gets on the dang field to learn the ropes as really a rookie this year......Wallace can identify coverage's, where that is something all rookie WR's need to come in and learn from playing.....

[rmcjacket23]

48 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

We need to get him involved soon and often. The sooner the better and the more often the better. Wallace can get really involved really fast and buy in to the system rapidly if we can get him a couple 6-8 catch 100-120 yard games. (Consequently, if he gets frustrated early it could poison his year and perhaps drag down other team members.) It just never seemed like Torrey did that much but when you look back he accumulated some major yardage here. And to think about all those pass interference calls and to convert that to yardage and Torrey would have led the league in receiving. I can see Wallace being almost a Torrey Smith twin here and if we use him in conjunction with Perriman,SSS and Aiken we are going to have one heck of a 3 and 4 receiver set.

Lets take a look at Torrey's alleged pass interference penalties and see if we can clear up some misconceptions. Here are his DPI drawn numbers for his tenure in Baltimore:

2014: 11 penalties for 229 yards

2013: 6 penalties, 93 yards

2012: 5 penalties, 78 yards

2011: 4 penalties, 171 yards

One large takeaway is the inconsistency with which this yardage comes, as most people already recognize that banking on defensive pass interference as a quality metric for WRs are going to get letdown over time. He only drew 2 penalties for 32 yards in 2015, thus further continuing this trend.

Now, if we decided to play the game where we had his DPI yardage to his real yardage (which is incredibly flawed to do by the way), lets look at the results:

2014: 996 yards (would have ranked 23rd in the league in receiving yardage)

2013: 1,221 yards (would have ranked 15th in the league in receiving yardage)

2012: 933 yards (would have ranked 26th in the league in receiving yardage)

2011: 1,012 yards (would have ranked 19th in the league in receiving yardage)

So not only would he have been nowhere close to leading the league in receiving, he would have AT BEST ranked 15th in 2013. He was basically in the 20-30 range (with the pass interference penalties) in every other season but that one.

 

 

[ryananth]

  1 hour ago, fusuymada said:

We need to get him involved soon and often. The sooner the better and the more often the better. Wallace can get really involved really fast and buy in to the system rapidly if we can get him a couple 6-8 catch 100-120 yard games. (Consequently, if he gets frustrated early it could poison his year and perhaps drag down other team members.) It just never seemed like Torrey did that much but when you look back he accumulated some major yardage here. And to think about all those pass interference calls and to convert that to yardage and Torrey would have led the league in receiving. I can see Wallace being almost a Torrey Smith twin here and if we use him in conjunction with Perriman,SSS and Aiken we are going to have one heck of a 3 and 4 receiver set.

Lets take a look at Torrey's alleged pass interference penalties and see if we can clear up some misconceptions. Here are his DPI drawn numbers for his tenure in Baltimore:

2014: 11 penalties for 229 yards

2013: 6 penalties, 93 yards

2012: 5 penalties, 78 yards

2011: 4 penalties, 171 yards

One large takeaway is the inconsistency with which this yardage comes, as most people already recognize that banking on defensive pass interference as a quality metric for WRs are going to get letdown over time. He only drew 2 penalties for 32 yards in 2015, thus further continuing this trend.

Now, if we decided to play the game where we had his DPI yardage to his real yardage (which is incredibly flawed to do by the way), lets look at the results:

2014: 996 yards (would have ranked 23rd in the league in receiving yardage)

2013: 1,221 yards (would have ranked 15th in the league in receiving yardage)

2012: 933 yards (would have ranked 26th in the league in receiving yardage)

2011: 1,012 yards (would have ranked 19th in the league in receiving yardage)

So not only would he have been nowhere close to leading the league in receiving, he would have AT BEST ranked 15th in 2013. He was basically in the 20-30 range (with the pass interference penalties) in every other season but that one.

 

 

I also bet you only added in Torrey's DPI yardage and not the same for the others in the rankings. Well done disproving this ridiculous theory.

[usmccharles]

1 minute ago, ryananth said:

I also bet you only added in Torrey's DPI yardage and not the same for the others in the rankings. Well done disproving this ridiculous theory.

was just about to say the same thing...

[Purple Dawg 96]

Wallace can play decoy for a minute and then light them up, up top! And please no more throwing into over and under coverage PLEASE! The pat's game still sickens me! WE HAD A SUPER BOWL!

[rmcjacket23]

1 hour ago, ryananth said:

I also bet you only added in Torrey's DPI yardage and not the same for the others in the rankings. Well done disproving this ridiculous theory.

I mean don't get me wrong...it has value and it certainly inflates his numbers. But it's a ridiculous notion to use it as some sort of skill reference when hyping up a player.

The guys who are actually putting up top 5-10 stats every year are ones that nobody cares about their DPI stats, because they simply produce. It's just an added bonus. 

When you have to make reference to somebody drawing DPI to make your case for a player, you're acknowledging you don't have much of a case. It's like using TD catches as a basis for making future projections. TD catch numbers are HIGHLY volatile for all receivers, regardless of skills.

[dirtybird66]

psst.and a,oh,by the way he learned how to block down field on running play's down in MIAMI.can you say HIENZ WARD anyone?

[JimmyBlack]

6 hours ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

Wallace can play decoy for a minute and then light them up, up top! And please no more throwing into over and under coverage PLEASE! The pat's game still sickens me! WE HAD A SUPER BOWL!

Lee Evans@droppedtheball.com

[ravenwildman]

Yeah, if Wallace, SSS, Perriman, and Aiken stay healthy.....opposing DC's better stock up on rolaids! This is going to be good! GO RAVENS!

[thieverycorporation]

We can win with Wallace's skill set. We still need to draft one or two to compete.

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

I hate to even say this, but the reason we keep bringing in FA's, is because our draft picks have not met expectations. We definately need to reverse this trend. Hopefully Perriman will pan out. Our draft batting average last couple years is below the Mendoza line.

[usmccharles]

15 hours ago, JimmyBlack said:

Lee Evans@droppedtheball.com

I may be the only one, but ill defend Evans forever on this.  The defense made a better play than the offense, he didnt 'drop' the ball