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[News] Late For Work 3/28: 'Obvious' Ravens Picks In 2016 NFL Draft

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Ronnie Stanley isn't an exciting pick but may be a necessary one. However, I don't believe the Ravens are going to pick a tackle at #6 because there is no surety he'll be a stud. Look at most tackles picked in the top of the draft recently. Not very reassuring. If the Ravens go offense at all, don't rule out Elliott. I believe we'll stay and pick if one of these 4 are available for us. Bosa, Jack, Ramsey and Buckner. If not, I expect us to trade back because the Browns are going to screw it up all over again by not taking Wentz or Goff.

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I have a feeling this season is going to be special! Call me Crazy or premature but I Strongly believe The Ravens Will Hoist That Lombardi Trophy Next February!!! LETS GO RAVENS!!!

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There's a lot of articles on Bisciotti and personnel moves this past week.  While I truly respect

him as our owner, he pays Ozzie and DeCosta to make the personnel decisions.  That being

said, I don't know how much weight I would put on Bisciotti's comments regarding who they're going to draft. 

 

Best defensive players that I think will be available at 6th. 

Bosa - Not a fan and personally I would be disappointed if we draft him at 6. 

Buckner - I would be OK w/ him at 6th. 

Hargreaves - I think we could actually trade back a few spots to get him. 

Ogbuh - Trade back a few to get him. 

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Once again, I view everything these guys say as smoke and mirrors. Why would the owner gladly tell every team in the NFL exactly what our plans are? For him to come out and say we may move down but no way we will trade up makes me think they are really debating whether they want to move up and make sure they grab Ramsey or Jack. Bosa's stock is plummeting fast and I have seen him listed as low as the 12th pick in some mock drafts. Buckner is not a fit and I don't see the team grabbing a left tackle in the first round with Monroe sitting on the bench. That means that either they are moving up or they are not going to get who they want with that 6th pick. That being said, I can see them moving back if they felt they could get Hargreaves wherever they trade to, or I can see them taking Hargreaves at 6. Hargreaves stock is rising and rumor has it that the Ravens really value Hargreaves. If Ramsey is the top safety in the draft then Hargreaves is the best true corner and worthy of a #6 pick. I am not worried that Bisciotti is getting involved in personnel because I believe everything they are saying was planned in advance in Florida during their meetings and they have two plans, the one they want all of us to believe, and the one they will actually do. We have zero info on what they will actually do because they are treating us like mushrooms (keeping us in the dark and feeding us BS).

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7 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

Buckner is not a fit and I don't see the team grabbing a left tackle in the first round with Monroe sitting on the bench.

Buckner not a fit...?

Massive 3-4 DL...not to mention pass rush ability. Pretty sure he would be a welcomed addition after Canty release.

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Oh that Oz, every year he has us all trying to guess what he is going to do......Genius...:)

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25 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

Once again, I view everything these guys say as smoke and mirrors. Why would the owner gladly tell every team in the NFL exactly what our plans are? For him to come out and say we may move down but no way we will trade up makes me think they are really debating whether they want to move up and make sure they grab Ramsey or Jack. Bosa's stock is plummeting fast and I have seen him listed as low as the 12th pick in some mock drafts. Buckner is not a fit and I don't see the team grabbing a left tackle in the first round with Monroe sitting on the bench. That means that either they are moving up or they are not going to get who they want with that 6th pick. That being said, I can see them moving back if they felt they could get Hargreaves wherever they trade to, or I can see them taking Hargreaves at 6. Hargreaves stock is rising and rumor has it that the Ravens really value Hargreaves. If Ramsey is the top safety in the draft then Hargreaves is the best true corner and worthy of a #6 pick. I am not worried that Bisciotti is getting involved in personnel because I believe everything they are saying was planned in advance in Florida during their meetings and they have two plans, the one they want all of us to believe, and the one they will actually do. We have zero info on what they will actually do because they are treating us like mushrooms (keeping us in the dark and feeding us BS).

1. Most of the time, the FO tells us exactly what they are going to do and they do it. All you have to do is listen. There's not really much deception in these matters, because it doesn't do anybody any good to be deceptive. We could tell the world what 2-3 positions we are looking at drafting and it wouldn't change anything because no team is going to pick a player just because the Ravens do or don't want them. 

2. Buckner is a prototype 3-4 DE, so obviously he's a fit. You could argue he's the biggest fit of the entire draft class. Whether we are considering him or looking at him as an option is unknown, as is the case with most of these players.

I suppose the players who do draft visits with us could signify the players we are interested in, since we'd obviously like to meet with the players we are considering. Buckner, as of now, has not visited with the Ravens, which may say something. Most of the other names have (Bosa, Tunsil, Stanley, Hargreaves, Ramsey, Spence).

Here's what I would say is a certainty... by the time the season starts, I'll bet we add a pass rusher and a corner. Steve told you we are going to, and that's what we will do. Where it happens or when it happens still remains to be seen.

3. If they do select a LT at #6, my guess is they'd cut Monroe, so he wouldn't be sitting on the bench any longer. That also shouldn't really have any effect anyway, since you aren't picking a guy for just one season. Its pretty clear the FO doesn't trust Monroe as the long term LT here.

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with the advent of social media and the speed and expanse of information and gathering of information, every team in the NFL will pick really good players unlike in previous years. I don't believe we'll have stud players fall into our laps like in the past. So, all we can hope for at this point is there is a run on QBs before we pick. That is the only way we can be assured of getting a top defensive talent in this draft. If Cleveland goes defense or Tunsil, we are essentially picking at #6 that isn't highly coveted.

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I think our secondary will be solid, they did a good job in the 2nd half oF the season, had we had any kind of pass rush we would have probably won more games....Pit is a prime example as their secondary was ranked like 27th, but their pass rush was 3rd, which can make up for a weak secondary, and they made the playoffs.....Pass rush and ILBer IMO are players i hope we focus on, we have to get the pass rush up to playoff standards, and it has to come from not just the Suggs, and Doom,but from the front 3 or 4......jmo.....

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I don't like the BOSA scenerio,iv'e read he's kinda weak on the run and that won't fly in this defense,RAMSEY will be gone,but the more I think about it,the more i like MYLES JACK.he can do everything,pass rush,cover very well,he's an ALPHA DOG that's faster than RAY LEWIS even in his prime.

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My ONLY concern about Myles Jack is his questionable knee.  I can only imagine the backlash from the fans if two years in a row our 1st round pick loses time due to a knee issue. 

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Just now, 757RavensFan said:

My ONLY concern about Myles Jack is his questionable knee.  I can only imagine the backlash from the fans if two years in a row our 1st round pick loses time due to a knee issue. 

I have somewhat of a guessing suspicion that we really just aren't that interested in him at #6. If we were to trade back a few spots, I could see it.

Gut feeling is we're aiming for either Bosa or Hargreaves, and we know we can get at least one of them at #6.

I just haven't seen anything linking us to Buckner, and I think the injury concerns are slightly enough to keep Jack out of that spot.

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Myles Jack I like that choice as well. Don't know if William Jackson III is on the Ravens radar, but he would be nice if available in the second round.

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Jack should be 100% by OTA's and i think he has another pro day to run the 40, and if he has a clean bill of health i can't see us passing up on his talent at 6, if he is even there at 6.....Hargreaves was not impressive in the SEC championship game and was burned all game, i just wouldn't want to spend a #6 pick on him....JMO....

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1. Tunsil 2. Stanley 3. Ramsey 4. Myles Jack 5. Bosa 6. Maquise Alexander 7. Buckner - IDK... at pick # 6... I think there are plenty of legit options for us who can change the llok of our team. (In no specific order).. Tunsil or Stanley are at minimum insurance packages for Monroe! Ramsey is a legtit starter from day 1. Bosa will be the heir to Suggs and Doom... Alexander a little more questionable but would start now and Buckner adds to a quality rotation... that being said... Ramsey looks like the best pick at # 6 but if he is not there we are still looking pretty good. (and you can interchange hargraves and alexander but I think alexander is the better athlete!)

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Jack could also be an immediate starter beside CJ and rush off the edge too... so I think we are looking at Ramsey 1st.... and if he is gone... Jack... if they are both gone we are looking for a T (Tunsil and Stanley)

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If Jack is gone, i think we could trade down and Raglan, or Lawson who could play with his hand in the dirt or standing up....we pick high enough in all the rounds to pick a solid OT to groom, as i think we are committed with Monroe..regardless it will be fun to watch how it plays out....so many scenarios...

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My ONLY concern about Myles Jack is his questionable knee.  I can only imagine the backlash from the fans if two years in a row our 1st round pick loses time due to a knee issue. 

yeah,i hear you,the last i checked he said he was %80 and they all said at his workout that he wasn't lying,he did all the drill's except run the 40 and he will at a special workout before the draft.but i hear ya.

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Myles Jack I like that choice as well. Don't know if William Jackson III is on the Ravens radar, but he would be nice if available in the second round.

yeah,i would hope that if we do end up drafting back a bit that he would be there,cause like you,i know he's got real skills and i like him too.

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Jack could also be an immediate starter beside CJ and rush off the edge too... so I think we are looking at Ramsey 1st.... and if he is gone... Jack... if they are both gone we are looking for a T (Tunsil and Stanley)

i see this all the time,the STANLEY pick,i thought we were ok on the o-line now and with solid back-ups.if none of them are there,id like to try and draft back for another pass rusher,but one will be there,still love JACK and BUCKNER.

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28 minutes ago, stixfix69 said:

Jack should be 100% by OTA's and i think he has another pro day to run the 40, and if he has a clean bill of health i can't see us passing up on his talent at 6, if he is even there at 6.....Hargreaves was not impressive in the SEC championship game and was burned all game, i just wouldn't want to spend a #6 pick on him....JMO....

So you're sour on him b/c of one bad game?  Everything I've read about him says he's the best true CB in the draft.

I would be happy if we took him w/ our 6th pick.  I just wish he was a little taller. 

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13 minutes ago, dirtybird66 said:

ok.,so,JOEY BOSA dratft's out at a 6.72 grade,BUCKNER a whopping 7.23,any question's?

Who did the grading?

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JACK'S injury is not a big one and he'll recover fine,man he's just an animal,but a very cerebral animal out there and goes all out on every play like RAY RAY,but as i said,faster.

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37 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

I have somewhat of a guessing suspicion that we really just aren't that interested in him at #6. If we were to trade back a few spots, I could see it.

Gut feeling is we're aiming for either Bosa or Hargreaves, and we know we can get at least one of them at #6.

I just haven't seen anything linking us to Buckner, and I think the injury concerns are slightly enough to keep Jack out of that spot.

Trading back from our 6th pick and getting Myles Jack don't belong in the same sentence.  Personally, I think he's off the board before our 6th pick. 

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Some insight on Jack. I am a huge UCLA fan and I am a huge fan of Jacks. He is uber athletic and can cover receivers. His sophomore year, he shut down SC's Nelson Agholor the whole game. He is able to fly sideline to sideline and is really physical. He has goos size although he is a bit short (Really stocky). So he has wheels, can cover and is good in the run game. What UCLA never really asked him to do was rush the passer which I wish they did because it could have made him more valuable. Not saying he cannot do it, I have just never seen it. He also had some immaturity outbursts during practices last year so he does have the occasional temper tantrum but hopefully with maturity it dies down a bit. Another note was that in very few games he would lose focus and play a bit reckless. He is a great player to represent an organization though. I met him at the spring UCLA camp and he had a flock of people following him to get a signature. I got his signature on my jersey and he is super charismatic to top it all off and humble. The more I look at the draft the more I want him to be the one we draft but I list the top players I want drafted in the first like this:
1. Laremy Tunsil OT
2. Jalen Ramsey DB
3. Myles Jack LB/DB/RB (Little Biased)
4. Deforest Buckner DE
5. Joey Bosa DE/OLB
6. Vernon Hargreaves CB
7. Ronnie Stanley OT

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1 minute ago, 757RavensFan said:

Trading back from our 6th pick and getting Myles Jack don't belong in the same sentence.  Personally, I think he's off the board before our 6th pick. 

I don't see him going top 5.

The only way I see it is if Cleveland doesn't go QB at 2, because then it might entice Jacksonville to look at somebody like Jack, but I don't see anybody in the top 4 really liking him enough to draft him there.

I think he definitely goes top 10, but I can easily see him going in the 7-10 range.

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