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at first glance it may seem unrealistic , but in my opinion it is quite possible.

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Ronnie Stanley OT   Notre Dame rJr 6-6

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obviously we had some problems in o-line in 2015 , and  it only worsened after KO leaving . we need draft OT for sure , and  stanley probable the best what we can get

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Mackensie Alexander CB   Clemson rSo 5-10 190

 

he can fall out of 1st round becous he doesnt have the prototypical size , and his stats not so good (lack of INT) , but still he is one of the  best cb 

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Tyler Boyd WR   Pittsburgh Jr 6-1 197  

well... we'll need some luck here ) I think guys, like Shepard , Thomas , Miller will be drafted before him and Boyd could fall to the third round

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Brandon Allen QB   Arkansas rSr 6-1 217

we need a solid backup, and preferably as cheap as possible. allen has some potential , i think he can be a NFL Qb

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Jihad Ward DE   Illinois Sr 6-5 297

it's a developmental prospect. he can be Canty replacement after a while

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Joe Schobert OLB   Wisconsin Sr 6-1 244

one of the most underrated defensive prospects. I like this guy , just look at his tape and you will love him too

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Cyrus Jones CB   Alabama Sr 5-10 197

 

 

do I have  to explain here?

 

ONNIE STANLEY, OT

 

RONNIE STANLEY, OT

RONNIE STANLEY, OT

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I always like reading people's drafts to see what others think. I think that's really valuable and I love to see differing views. That said, I don't like your draft. Here's why:

You didn't address OLB. I like Schobert but I think he's best as an ILB and I don't like him as an 3-4 OLB. I just don't see it. There's no way we don't take an OLB early, too. If anything we'd reach on an OLB before taking a CB, WR, or OL, imo. 

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I totaly agree that OLB is the position we need , but I think that Bosa will not be available at the sixth pick ( Jack and Ramsey too) , and in 36 will be unavailable Ogbah , Spence , Lawson... how can you pass by Alexander and Boyd in those picks?  BPA! and in the fourth round, what other options might there be? not much...

of course, if Bosa will be available in 6 pick I would take him.
or if Spence will be available in the 2nd round , I also take him over Alexander. and it will be much more better for us , but it's not gonna happen imo

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Not a big Stanley fan I just get that vibe he won't last long in the league his love of the game has been questioned. Also I don't see us drafting a QB we have Mallett signed already. Otherwise i am fine I would like to see 2 pass rushers but Alexander and Boyd in the 2nd and 3rd I would be thrilled. I'm fine with Shobert and Jones in the 4th.

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5 minutes ago, Stevin said:

I totaly agree that OLB is the position we need , but I think that Bosa will not be available at the sixth pick ( Jack and Ramsey too) , and in 36 will be unavailable Ogbah , Spence , Lawson... how can you pass by Alexander and Boyd in those picks?  BPA! and in the fourth round, what other options might there be? not much...

of course, if Bosa will be available in 6 pick I would take him.
or if Spence will be available in the 2nd round , I also take him over Alexander. and it will be much more better for us , but it's not gonna happen imo

There's no way we don't address OLB early. I'll bet my rank (the text that says "Injured Reserve") on it. 

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I think if Cleveland doesn't go QB I believe we trade back and target Lawson, Ogbah, or Spence because if Bosa, Tunsil, Ramsey, Jack, and Buckner are gone I think we don't take Stanley and move on back with Eagles (8) so they can jump SF for a QB, Giants (10) who have been linked to Elliott, Dolphins (13)also linked to Elliott  or Rams (15). 

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I just don't. Value Stanley high. I did at first but his work ethic rumors really concern me. I legitimately think if he had strong desire for greatness that his frame would be a lot more lean and muscular, he seems to be built soft which is an indication that he doesn't put in work in the weight room, and when you consider that he gets no push in the run game against college defenders then I think you have to be worried about taking him at 6, he should be in that weight room getting stronger and he just hasn't. I think to take a tackle top 10 he has to be a safe pick meaning at the very worst case scenario he slides in at guard and becomes a great run blocker, if stanley struggles at tackle then he won't be able to do that, and I COULD see him having struggles at the next level. 

 

He just isn't safe enough for me to take him 6th overall

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And there's talk about ogbah on this thread, I would bank on it that we don't touch ogbah, he is the shawn oakman of the edge rush. The only difference is the character of the 2, but his film is just ugly, he is so bad when he has to engage blockers, he is a freak athlete and has stupid strength but he will need 3 years minimum before he becomes a truly effective edge rusher at the next level I think

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20 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

There's no way we don't address OLB early. I'll bet my rank (the text that says "Injured Reserve") on it. 

so who we gonna pick in that scenario ( bosa , ogbah , lawson , spence - not avaible when we on clock).
what options in 1 round? in 2? in 3?
rly this class not rich for good edges imho

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7 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

There's no way we don't address OLB early. I'll bet my rank (the text that says "Injured Reserve") on it. 

Speaking of which, how can you change your rank?

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6 hours ago, Stevin said:

so who we gonna pick in that scenario ( bosa , ogbah , lawson , spence - not avaible when we on clock).
what options in 1 round? in 2? in 3?
rly this class not rich for good edges imho

Dodd? Trade up for someone? I also like Cowser a little bit later. Check him out. What I'm saying is there's no way we don't add a pass rusher early. I'm that confident. 

40 minutes ago, DomMcRaven said:

Speaking of which, how can you change your rank?

You gotta get Hall of Fame status or whatever and I just PMed a mod. I'll probably change it back now that our season from Hell is over.

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4 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

I also like Cowser a little bit later. Check him out.

ok thx

4 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

Dodd? Trade up for someone?

exactly ) we need to trade up to get him )

Dodd look good on tape , but i'm not sure he is good fit for us

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2 hours ago, Stevin said:

ok thx

exactly ) we need to trade up to get him )

Dodd look good on tape , but i'm not sure he is good fit for us

I think dodd is a great fit. He has the measurables and he is raw but he's not raw on the level of ogbah or oakman, he has leverage and he has a grasp on how to use his hands and he has good vision. Dodd is the kind of player we turn into a pro bowler. He could be a dominant 34DE or lose a bit of weight and be a monster OLB. He fits at either because he has the leverage and shoulder dip to play the edge for us. 

 

Worst case scenario with dodd, he's a olb on run downs and a DE on passing downs and he is a machine at both.

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1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

or lose a bit of weight and be a monster OLB.

thats i'm talking about... can he lose some weight? how it affect him? is he powerfull enough to be 34 de? 
only 1 year as a starter?
like i said before i like him , but not sure about him.
if he can be there at 36 its probably gonna be good pick , but trade up to take him in late 1st round... rly?

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8 hours ago, Stevin said:

thats i'm talking about... can he lose some weight? how it affect him? is he powerfull enough to be 34 de? 
only 1 year as a starter?
like i said before i like him , but not sure about him.
if he can be there at 36 its probably gonna be good pick , but trade up to take him in late 1st round... rly?

He will be strong enough to play DE. If jernigan is strong enough then dodd is strong enough, he would be asked to 1 gap a lot probably anyway since he has that reach and is really disruptive, him and jernigan would be a nightmare collapsing the guards together on every passing down

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On 3/26/2016 at 3:31 PM, GrimCoconut said:

There's no way we don't address OLB early. I'll bet my rank (the text that says "Injured Reserve") on it. 

OLB will be either the first or second pick, unless we land Buckner and view him as a solid interior rusher and grab Yannick later on or something, then possibly no OLB. But I'd be willing to bet to that if Buckner isn't picked that Ozzie will either stun us by taking, Bosa or Lawson early or Dodd, Ogbah, Spence, or Calhoun in the second.

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Stanley is the last person I want us to take at 6, I just feel like he will be a bust. 

If we use a 4th rounder on a QB I will be upset, that would be a huge mistake and im an Arkansas boy. 

No pass rush difference make from the start..no thank you.  I would be very disappointed here. 

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On 26.03.2016 at 6:14 AM, GrimCoconut said:

I also like Cowser a little bit later.

well... where is he now? I'm just curious

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4 hours ago, Stevin said:

well... where is he now? I'm just curious

The Raiders picked him up after the draft.

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On 3/29/2016 at 1:07 AM, usmccharles said:

Stanley is the last person I want us to take at 6, I just feel like he will be a bust. 

If we use a 4th rounder on a QB I will be upset, that would be a huge mistake and im an Arkansas boy. 

No pass rush difference make from the start..no thank you.  I would be very disappointed here. 

Well i hope im wrong here, i completely forgot someone else mocked Stanley to us, thought i was the only one.  After researching Stanley more obviously i felt different. 

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