ILBs besides Jack

[RaineV1]

It's not one of the Ravens' biggest needs, but we could definitely use more depth in the middle. At the moment Mosley is the only proven starter we have at the position. Nick Perry and/or Orr could prove to be adequate, but it'd be nice to bring in a bit of competition.

Two guys that come to mind are Vigil and Matakevich. Vigil is the more athletic of the two, and could cover a wider range. He also has pretty good vision. Matakevich on the other hand is more of an enforcer; as CBS puts it 'plays like a controlled mad man, hitting another gear once he sees red.' One of them will likely be available in the 4th, possibly both. They'd help our special teams right away, and become a possible starter beside Mosley.

[JoeyFlex5]

I like brothers a lot. That is all.

[Underdogsontop!]

I haven't looked to far into ILB's in the draft but IMO there's not much quality in the draft after jack. I personally wouldn't even want Reggie Ragland in the 1st round. I think Orr or Arthur brown could do better then the guys in the draft. Maybe our FO will find someone in FA or a cap casualty guy soon. 

[ant2ney]

I disagree that ILB is not one of our major needs. Unless the team feels Brown or Orr have made serious progress then we don't even have a starter next to Mosely. 

 

Along with LG being another new hole, along with the roster holes we had coming into the off season, we may be hoping for the QBs to fall so that we can net a decent haul in a trade back. A few extra 2nds or 3rds could probably help us out with those positions. 

[JoeyFlex5]

56 minutes ago, Underdogsontop! said:

I haven't looked to far into ILB's in the draft but IMO there's not much quality in the draft after jack. I personally wouldn't even want Reggie Ragland in the 1st round. I think Orr or Arthur brown could do better then the guys in the draft. Maybe our FO will find someone in FA or a cap casualty guy soon. 

i strongly disagree. i think ILB is one of the stronger positions in this years draft. you got jack, smith, ragland, brothers, matakevich, mckinzy, vigil, then you have guys like cravens who would be a ILB hybrid in our system, and guys like darron lee, eric striker, and josh perry who are all listed as OLB but in a 34 would likely play a diverse role of inside and outside. 

 

 

[Ngata Chance]

Scooby Wright is also a consideration for inside. He's got potential when he's healthy.  

[Jacquouille]

2 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

i strongly disagree. i think ILB is one of the stronger positions in this years draft. you got jack, smith, ragland, brothers, matakevich, mckinzy, vigil, then you have guys like cravens who would be a ILB hybrid in our system, and guys like darron lee, eric striker, and josh perry who are all listed as OLB but in a 34 would likely play a diverse role of inside and outside. 

 

 

Agree that this class is definitely deep at the position, lot of quality. I would add Antonio Morrison and Deion Jones. 

Becoming a big time fan of Cravens in the 2nd, he would be terrific in our defense.

[rmw10]

I like Deion Jones a lot as a coverage guy for us.  He needs some work but the guy has all of the prerequisite athleticism.  A couple of years ago I would have said he was too small, but the NFL is making the move to these undersized guys.

[Darhk_Raven]

45 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I like Deion Jones a lot as a coverage guy for us.  He needs some work but the guy has all of the prerequisite athleticism.  A couple of years ago I would have said he was too small, but the NFL is making the move to these undersized guys.

I think he still has to put on at least a little bit of weight.

[Halshayeji]

5 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

i strongly disagree. i think ILB is one of the stronger positions in this years draft. you got jack, smith, ragland, brothers, matakevich, mckinzy, vigil, then you have guys like cravens who would be a ILB hybrid in our system, and guys like darron lee, eric striker, and josh perry who are all listed as OLB but in a 34 would likely play a diverse role of inside and outside. 

 

 

I'm totally with you on this one. Couldn't have said it better myself!

[cushrinada1986]

I think Deion Jones from LSU would make a solid coverage ILB in time.

 

[Edgar]

Joe Schobert is a guy who can play inside

[JoeyFlex5]

7 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

Agree that this class is definitely deep at the position, lot of quality. I would add Antonio Morrison and Deion Jones. 

Becoming a big time fan of Cravens in the 2nd, he would be terrific in our defense.

Jones is the one I couldn't remember. I knew I was forgetting a really big one.

[KBoum]

deion Jones I LOVE HIM.

 

his father was a big deion sanders fan. Deion Jones is small but hes tough as a nail. His body is pure muscle. He's a special team ace. he'll do what ever it takes to help the TEAM.

I LOVE this player;

Edited March 27, 2016 by KBoum

[DomMcRaven]

I know @Winchester has been clamoring for Jones. 

[443hurricane]

18 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

i strongly disagree. i think ILB is one of the stronger positions in this years draft. you got jack, smith, ragland, brothers, matakevich, mckinzy, vigil, then you have guys like cravens who would be a ILB hybrid in our system, and guys like darron lee, eric striker, and josh perry who are all listed as OLB but in a 34 would likely play a diverse role of inside and outside. 

 

 

Give me Ragland or Vigil

and call it at ILB anyone but ABrown and Orr ceiling is low

[Maryland]

Generally speaking, our LB corps has lacked speed for the past few years. Anyone who can play fast and cover would be preferable to a thumper like Brothers or Matakevich. Although either of those guys could probably replace Upshaw on the strong side. But Pees seems to value run-stopping power over coverage abilities in his LBs, so we'll probably pick up a run-stuffer who can't cover. 

[Jacquouille]

4 hours ago, Maryland said:

Generally speaking, our LB corps has lacked speed for the past few years. Anyone who can play fast and cover would be preferable to a thumper like Brothers or Matakevich. Although either of those guys could probably replace Upshaw on the strong side. But Pees seems to value run-stopping power over coverage abilities in his LBs, so we'll probably pick up a run-stuffer who can't cover. 

Brothers can cover very well, he's top5 in the draft in that aspect, maybe even top3 after Jack and Cravens.

[JoeyFlex5]

13 hours ago, Maryland said:

Generally speaking, our LB corps has lacked speed for the past few years. Anyone who can play fast and cover would be preferable to a thumper like Brothers or Matakevich. Although either of those guys could probably replace Upshaw on the strong side. But Pees seems to value run-stopping power over coverage abilities in his LBs, so we'll probably pick up a run-stuffer who can't cover. 

Brothers isn't the fastest guy but he is possibly the smartest coverage linebacker in the class. He has enough speed to handle the task although he isn't flashy but his instincts and smarts set him apart. He'll be a long time starter in this league

[Gman40]

On 3/26/2016 at 4:05 AM, RaineV1 said:

It's not one of the Ravens' biggest needs, but we could definitely use more depth in the middle. At the moment Mosley is the only proven starter we have at the position. Nick Perry and/or Orr could prove to be adequate, but it'd be nice to bring in a bit of competition.

Two guys that come to mind are Vigil and Matakevich. Vigil is the more athletic of the two, and could cover a wider range. He also has pretty good vision. Matakevich on the other hand is more of an enforcer; as CBS puts it 'plays like a controlled mad man, hitting another gear once he sees red.' One of them will likely be available in the 4th, possibly both. They'd help our special teams right away, and become a possible starter beside Mosley.

I personally think jaylon Smith would be a great addition to middle

[allblackraven]

Why is it that nobody mentions Reggie Ragland as an option?

The fact that #6 is too early and that he's gone by our 2nd round pick? Or the prevailing thought that we absolutely must draft linebacker with exceptional coverage skills, while CJ Mosley should be able to do all the tackling? This dude is the perfect trade back option for us. He's actually quite good defending the pass game in a zone oriented defense.

 

 

[rmw10]

2 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

Why is it that nobody mentions Reggie Ragland as an option?

The fact that #6 is too early and that he's gone by our 2nd round pick? Or the prevailing thought that we absolutely must draft linebacker with exceptional coverage skills, while CJ Mosley should be able to do all the tackling? This dude is the perfect trade back option for us. He's actually quite good defending the pass game in a zone oriented defense.

 

 

For me at least, it's time to get a playmaker.  I don't doubt Ragland will be a good player, but I don't think that's the type of guy we need.

[BmoreBird22]

2 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

Why is it that nobody mentions Reggie Ragland as an option?

The fact that #6 is too early and that he's gone by our 2nd round pick? Or the prevailing thought that we absolutely must draft linebacker with exceptional coverage skills, while CJ Mosley should be able to do all the tackling? This dude is the perfect trade back option for us. He's actually quite good defending the pass game in a zone oriented defense.

I feel most people won't talk about a prospect if there's no realistic chance of us taking him. Kinda like how no one talks about Decker or Conklin when talking about LT prospects.

[RaineV1]

12 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

Why is it that nobody mentions Reggie Ragland as an option?

The fact that #6 is too early and that he's gone by our 2nd round pick? Or the prevailing thought that we absolutely must draft linebacker with exceptional coverage skills, while CJ Mosley should be able to do all the tackling? This dude is the perfect trade back option for us. He's actually quite good defending the pass game in a zone oriented defense.

 

 

The fact that he'll be gone before our 2nd round pick, and the fact that he's just a slower version of Mosley.

[allblackraven]

2 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

For me at least, it's time to get a playmaker.  I don't doubt Ragland will be a good player, but I don't think that's the type of guy we need.

I would argue that the move like Ragland can actually let Mosley be that playmaker in our middle.

 

[rmw10]

4 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

I would argue that the move like Ragland can actually let Mosley be that playmaker in our middle.

 

I don't view the second ILB position as enough of an impact position. 

[ALPHA]

2 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I don't view the second ILB position as enough of an impact position. 

It is if they can do it all, think Willis and Bowman.

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, ALPHA said:

It is if they can do it all, think Willis and Bowman.

I don't see that type of combo with Ragland, for what it's worth. Now, Jack on the other hand...

[Inqui]

Just now, ALPHA said:

It is if they can do it all, think Willis and Bowman.

It can be a great playmaking role, and that's why I'm on board with it if Jack's there for us. But I don't see Ragland adding much in the way of playmaking.

[Inqui]

Just now, rmw10 said:

I don't see that type of combo with Ragland, for what it's worth. Now, Jack on the other hand...

Beat me to it, just as I was typing.