[News] Who Will Start Next To C.J. Mosley?

[stixfix69]

  4 hours ago, stixfix69 said:

If we don't get Jack, resign Upshaw, and move him inside, and AB outside.....

Are you kidding? That would be the worst thing you could do. Upshaw has no speed and no covering ability. He'd make a horrible MLB.

Hate to tell ya ya but MLBers priority is run stopping not pass coverage, as they rarely do cover unless htey sit in a zone for crossing routes....It's the OLBer who have more coverage responsibility covering TE's....mute now as Upshaw is in Atlanta...

[utalkingtome123]

54 minutes ago, bigcatfrank1 said:

Whats his story? Is he a RFA? does he have any offers or is he being shopped. DO you think that the Ravens can get him at a certain price and for what kind of deal? give us some details

He's an athletic linebacker that is familiar with the 3-4 defense. Was on the titans but was kinda underused. He's underrated. Can rack up tackles but play coverage also. Plus he's only 26 and doesn't have much wear and tear him. Only about 3 teams are looking at him but he's really "under the radar" so he will probably sign for about 2, 3 mill tops probably. Not saying he's a superstar because he was consistent at times, that's why I said the draft would be good probably. He will get the job done though.

Edited March 26, 2016 by utalkingtome123

[bigcatfrank1]

Ravens take Stanley at #6, play their cards right they pick up a decent ILB or OLB at #37, Maybe with the flood of- Darren Lee, Reggie Ragland, Leonard Floyd, Kentrell Brothers or even take Jaylon Smith and let him heal up for 2017. Or pick up Cody Whitehair at #1 OG 37th and still have a shot at Floyd or Brothers at 70th.
then feed the Defense with 4-7th DB, LB and PASS Rushers -"potential missed gems" as OZ would put it. Still have a shot at some FA and cap casualties.

[b93333]

Everyone seems to think Orr is ready... I think they are correct.

[utalkingtome123]

8 minutes ago, bigcatfrank1 said:

Ravens take Stanley at #6, play their cards right they pick up a decent ILB or OLB at #37, Maybe with the flood of- Darren Lee, Reggie Ragland, Leonard Floyd, Kentrell Brothers or even take Jaylon Smith and let him heal up for 2017. Or pick up Cody Whitehair at #1 OG 37th and still have a shot at Floyd or Brothers at 70th.
then feed the Defense with 4-7th DB, LB and PASS Rushers -"potential missed gems" as OZ would put it. Still have a shot at some FA and cap casualties.

Jayson smith is risky but the reward part about him is so great so I actually like that.

[bigcatfrank1]

Image having Myles Jack and Noah Spence on our team then trade back in the second round and get the best CB/S available. I would be a happy camper. ?

Absolutely, but I dont see it happening. And I would expect a crazy trade situation in order for it to even be possible. MIles Jack should go in the top 5. I think the Cowboys or Jacksonville will take him unless one of them trades and somebody jumps up and takes an unlikely player. As far as Spence, he is not a top player for the Ravens so if he slid to #37 that means they would get him there. So the Ravens would have to do something like a double trade and get 2 #1 picks one inside #10 to get Miles Jack on a Steal and then one somewhere around #15-20 to get Noah Spence.... Not gonna happen my friend so sorry. But We could get Miles Jack, that is a possibility. I am thinking Stanley, But Miles Jack looks to be a strong second choice.

[purpledown]

good question, Brown is a special teams player and nothing else. The other guys are average, at best.

[hen826957]

@EdTheMythicalOne Upshaw wasn't useless he meant something on defense and that was the physicality on defense and was a good run stopper. He might have a bad game once in a while (like the Cleveland Browns you say) but he was great playing it that role. Now we gotta hope Z Smith is the answer to play run defense on 1st and 2nd down if he's not ready we are in trouble. Upshaw wasn't useless all those years as a Raven. By the way do you have a YouTube channel or something because you look very familiar if l'm mistaken? Is your channel is Austination TV? If it's not you look like him. LOL. ?

[utalkingtome123]

Im more concerned that they are still using headline photos of players in those mustard colored pants.

I wonder why we don't take the design of the practice jerseys with the purple #s and make it into a game jersey. Then maybe add some purple pants with all black socks. If it's done right thst could be a nice uniform maybe.

[bigcatfrank1]

wow, Well with this latest news of Upshaw Signing with the Falcons, it makes Miles Jack jump up the Ravens board a notch if that is even possible. I was pretty sold on Stanley being the go guy, but if Jack slides to 6th I have to say the need and player looks to be right for the picking. Both Players could have long term impact for the Ravens, lets hope, if they are the options.

[Halshayeji]

1 hour ago, utalkingtome123 said:

1 hour ago, bigcatfrank1 said:

Ravens take Stanley at #6, play their cards right they pick up a decent ILB or OLB at #37, Maybe with the flood of- Darren Lee, Reggie Ragland, Leonard Floyd, Kentrell Brothers or even take Jaylon Smith and let him heal up for 2017. Or pick up Cody Whitehair at #1 OG 37th and still have a shot at Floyd or Brothers at 70th.
then feed the Defense with 4-7th DB, LB and PASS Rushers -"potential missed gems" as OZ would put it. Still have a shot at some FA and cap casualties.

Jayson smith is risky but the reward part about him is so great so I actually like that.

Jaylon smith is a monster! I hate ND but even I cried inside when he got hurt like that. He probably would have been the most talented player in this class. Some mocks have him falling to the fifth round because of that nerve damage.

If there's a 25% chance that he comes back healthy after 2016 I hope Ozzie takes a swipe at him with one of our 4th

Edited March 26, 2016 by Halshayeji

[Crusader]

You all can forget about any receiver. Ravens need offensive line and linebackers that are fast.

[Halshayeji]

6 minutes ago, Crusader said:

You all can forget about any receiver. Ravens need offensive line and linebackers that are fast.

Darron Lee fast enough for ya?

[Crusader]

Arthur Brown is no linebacker. Second round special team player at best. Orr could be good but another year will tell. Problem now is just like the secondary there is no experienced players in that position. Since the SB Ravens have too much kaos going on at key positions.

[Crusader]

I think its time Mr. Arthur Brown steps up, He was great at Kanasa State, And would pair perfectly with Mosley.

Never will happen too slow and looks lost on the field

[EdTheMythicalOne]

4 hours ago, stixfix69 said:

Hate to tell ya ya but MLBers priority is run stopping not pass coverage, as they rarely do cover unless htey sit in a zone for crossing routes....It's the OLBer who have more coverage responsibility covering TE's....mute now as Upshaw is in Atlanta...

Yeah, but MLB's are supposed to have range AND in this new passing league NFL, the ability to cover somebody coming over the middle. In case you haven't been paying attention, that exact area of the field was the Ravens weakness for several years now because Ray Lewis had lost a step, D. Smith also lost a step last season. Teams were eating us up by attacking and exposing our LB's in pass coverage.

Upshaw isn't fast enough to be a guy that can range around the field and make tackles all over the place. He has no pass covering skills and it would be awful. Even as weak as the Falcons are at LB, they are thinking they might move Upshaw to DE in a 4-3 set.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

7 hours ago, hen826957 said:

@EdTheMythicalOne Upshaw wasn't useless he meant something on defense and that was the physicality on defense and was a good run stopper. He might have a bad game once in a while (like the Cleveland Browns you say) but he was great playing it that role. Now we gotta hope Z Smith is the answer to play run defense on 1st and 2nd down if he's not ready we are in trouble. Upshaw wasn't useless all those years as a Raven. By the way do you have a YouTube channel or something because you look very familiar if l'm mistaken? Is your channel is Austination TV? If it's not you look like him. LOL. ?

PFF rated him 89th overall and only 20th against the run...and that was in the season he was due to become a free agent. That's far from great. That's below average is what that is. He was a solid player, but certainly did not live up to his 2nd round pick status and wasn't worth a raise. We need to find another Adalius Thomas. I miss that guy.

I don't have a youtube channel but I was a featured writer for some other sports pages that I don't think I can mention here. I posted a reply to you earlier and I notice it didn't make it on here and in that post I listed the places I did some work for.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

6 hours ago, Crusader said:

Arthur Brown is no linebacker. Second round special team player at best. Orr could be good but another year will tell. Problem now is just like the secondary there is no experienced players in that position. Since the SB Ravens have too much kaos going on at key positions.

I agree with you and I think I would rather have this Arthur Brown on the team. After all he is "The God of Hellfire" and that would be one sick nickname for a football player. I wonder if he'd be coming on the fire zone hot blitz?

[billiejean]

12 hours ago, stixfix69 said:

12 hours ago, EdTheMythicalOne said:

  15 hours ago, stixfix69 said:

If we don't get Jack, resign Upshaw, and move him inside, and AB outside.....

Are you kidding? That would be the worst thing you could do. Upshaw has no speed and no covering ability. He'd make a horrible MLB.

Hate to tell ya ya but MLBers priority is run stopping not pass coverage, as they rarely do cover unless htey sit in a zone for crossing routes....It's the OLBer who have more coverage responsibility covering TE's....mute now as Upshaw is in Atlanta...

And I hate to tell you that, thats not true at all. If the OLB is not rushing the passer on a pass play (they rush most of the time) OLBs usually have the flats. ILBs or S cover the tight end. The OLB may chip the guy but he's not going to cover him down field. Moving Upshaw is not a good idea. The only way he would succeed is if the teams ran straight at him. His lateral quickness is not very good. Im sure he could stuff a hole but he wouldn't be good at scraping over the top in pursuit.  And its moot not mute.

Edited March 26, 2016 by billiejean

[Fastynart]

Does anyone even bother to ask why the Ravens don't have an immediate plug in now that Darryl Smith has finally expired? He was a great stop gap after Ray retired, but Newsome has done nothing to fill the void which he knew was coming as Smith's temporary filling of it diminished. Arthur Brown, WHAT? The guy who doesn't play and has never breached the starting lineup? This is the guy you want to take over? The others are a bunch of unknowns. (We know Brown stinks). Unbelievable.

[jravens1313]

Myles Jack

[rmcjacket23]

10 hours ago, Crusader said:

Arthur Brown is no linebacker. Second round special team player at best. Orr could be good but another year will tell. Problem now is just like the secondary there is no experienced players in that position. Since the SB Ravens have too much kaos going on at key positions.

Lack of experience probably isn't a bad thing either, considering it's not really a position that requires it.

[BigUgly]

Without knowing the draft outcome, I think Orr would be perfectly fine and hope that Arthur Brown can develop into a situational pass-rusher.

[Drinkmore Beer]

Myles Jack will likely be gone before the Ravens pick, but no worries, bro! They can plug in the great and powerful Arthur "Watching The Game On TV Again" Brown and if that doesn't work out, convert safety Matt "Where Is My Guy?" Elam to ISL where he'll at least have a chance to bump into somebody else's guy.

[hn68wb4]

There will be a competition in training camp and preseason but I expect the FO to give Brown a real shot for the first couple games. I wouldn't mind Orr though, he really has done well so far and has proven some coverage skills.

[FLBoyRaven]

No doubt I think Orr will be the week 1 starter. Which to me means we need to add another to create comp with Brown who to me just hasn't shown anything. He dosen't have the love for the game that other former Raven ilb displayed. Saying that I think Oz and co. should strongly consider my boy Scooby Wright iii. He plays with heart and passion for the game which can never be taught. Also he is a student of the game and makes many plays on instincts alone. If not for a minor injury filled final season we would all be hearing about him more. He will be a steal this yr so hopefully we can snag him with one of our numerous selections in this yrs draft.

[billiejean]

You all can forget about any receiver. Ravens need offensive line and linebackers that are fast.

you say the same thing everyday. we get it. offensive line, linebackers

[NNITRED]

The idea of plugging i safety is ridiculous. THE AFC North still runs and we have to be prepared. in addition to that there's no way we trust communication and adjustment to anyone listed. You can't draft NFL experience so June 1 casualty is our best hope IMO. OTOH there seems to be an idea among fans that we can just pick up replacements like this at the corner store.

[NNITRED]

  18 hours ago, Crusader said:

Arthur Brown is no linebacker. Second round special team player at best. Orr could be good but another year will tell. Problem now is just like the secondary there is no experienced players in that position. Since the SB Ravens have too much kaos going on at key positions.

Lack of experience probably isn't a bad thing either, considering it's not really a position that requires it.

An unseasoned MLB is a sitting duck as he's going handle communications. When the see a look he can exploit we're stuck with whatever the DC sent in. Even if an offense show a vulnerable look we can exploit that inexperienced MLB doesn't have the IQ to pick up on it ,communicate it ,or audible out. MLB isn't all about brawn and stats.

[rmcjacket23]

13 hours ago, NNITRED said:

An unseasoned MLB is a sitting duck as he's going handle communications. When the see a look he can exploit we're stuck with whatever the DC sent in. Even if an offense show a vulnerable look we can exploit that inexperienced MLB doesn't have the IQ to pick up on it ,communicate it ,or audible out. MLB isn't all about brawn and stats.

And that's why we have Mosley to handle communications.

A good offense will exploit inexperience at any position on the defense.